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Posted : 01/01/2023 5:36 pm

Hello friends.

I'm 14 days out of the 2 day PCA by Dr.Rullan, and I am holding my breath because the results are more than I could have hoped for. I am going to give you a full, extensive breakdown of the procedure in day 30 post-op - and I hope it helps those on here who are feeling lost and hopeless (something I felt everyday for almost a decade of my life because of these stupid scars). I should say...I did a plethora of treatments prior to seeing Dr.Rullan. I have provided details below, with some thoughts in bold. I did my best to track my treatments but honestly may have forgotten to add 1 or 2 over the years. For reference, I am skin type IV. Specificially:

09/29/2019 - Blunt Cannula Subcision & Sculptra FillerBlunt Cannula Subcision with overly diluted Sculptra (Poly-L-Lactic Acid) with tumescent anesthesia
12/21/2019 - Blunt Cannula Subcision & Sculptra FillerBlunt Cannula Subcision with overly diluted Sculptra (Poly-L-Lactic Acid) with tumescent anesthesia
02/27/2020 - Blunt Cannula Subcision & Sculptra FillerBlunt Cannula Subcision with overly diluted Sculptra (Poly-L-Lactic Acid) with tumescent anesthesia
07/02/2020 - Blunt Cannula Subcision & Radiesse FillerBlunt Cannula Subcision with Radiesse (calcium hydroxylapatite) with tumescent anesthesia
07/31/2020 Infini RF Microneedling #1WASTE OF MONEY
08/29/2020 - Infini RF Microneedling #2WASTE OF MONEY
09/24/2020 - Infini Micorneedling #3WASTE OF MONEY
10/27/2020 - Blunt Cannula Subcision & Radiesse FillerBlunt Cannula Subcision with Radiesse (calcium hydroxylapatite)
12/03/2020 - Profractional Laser

Settings: 400 joules at 11% single pass, 150 joules at 11% double pass on pigmented areas

 

WASTE OF MONEY

12/29/2020 - Radiesse & V-Shape Cannula Subcision & TCA Cross 70% & eCO2Lutronic eCo2 Settings -
120 tip : 26 Pule Energy : 30 Watt 100 Density one pass
another pass to scar areas x 2 passes at the scars

500 tip Dynamic
30 pule energy 30 watt 100 density
one pass in dynamic mode all over face

01/07/2021- Cannula Subcision & Juvederm VoliteCannula Subcision (NO tumescent anesthesia) & 2 syringes of Juvederm Volite
03/23/2021 - TCA Cross #1 & Punch Excision #1 & Test spot of fully ablative erbiumTCA #1 & Punch Excision #1 (excised two scars), and test spot erbium Yag
04/27/2021 - TCA Cross #2 & Punch Excision #2

TCA Cross #2 & Punch Excision #2: Punch excision of 12-14 atrophic scars on each cheek

 

I think this gave me a loooot of improvement.

05/11/2021 - Pixel Harmony Erbium LaserER yag LP 4mm 1000 to spots around then to face area for smoothing fractional 1200 3 pulses stacked all over face one extra for smoothing pass no stack
06/25/2021 - TCA Cross 90% and Restylane Skinboosters Vital Light (2 syringes)Left me with a TCA scar -
08/25/2021 - Fractional Erbium Ablative + Carbolic (Phenol) CROSS + Bi-level blunt cannula subcision with tumescent Anesthesia + VBeam on PIH spots1. Phenol Carbolic Cross 2. V-Beam on PIH Spots left from 90% TCA Cross 90% 3. Bi-level Blunt Cannula Subcision with Tumescent Anesthesia 4. Fractional Erbium Ablative. Settings: Energy: 2500 mJ/cm2, Spot Size: 7x7, Number of Passes: 2
09/29/2021 Sculptra (Poly-L-Lactic Acid) injection (NO Subcision)
11/20/2021 Sculptra (Poly-L-Lactic Acid) injection (NO subcision)
Cutera Secret PRO eCo2 & RFM #1- April 11th 2022: cheeks & chin & noseWORTH IT
Cutera Secret PRO Co2 & RFM #2 - May 16th 2022: cheeks & chin & noseWORTH IT
Cutera Secret PRO Co2 & RFM #3- June 20th: cheeks & chin & nose & neckWORTH IT
Cutera Secret PRO Co2 & RFM #4: July 20th: cheeks & chin & noseWORTH IT
Cutera Secret PRO RFM #5: Aug 18 - cheeks, chin, noseWORTH IT
Cutera Secret PRO RFM & eCo2 #6 : Sept 24 - cheeks, chin, noseWORTH IT
Cutera Secret PRO RFM #7: Oct 31 - cheeks, chin, noseWORTH IT
2 day phenol peel - December 19 & 20 2022100000% WORTH IT

What has upset me at this point is most of my family and even my boyfriend claiming they never noticed my scars. After all the suffering...I don't think those with perfect/scarless skin will ever understand what we go through. Anyway. I am very thankful for seeing Dr.Rullan and extremely happy I did not cancel my appointment (as I was having second thoughts a few months ago). I do still see some indentations under specific lighting...and if I see more on day 30 I WILL aspire to do a second peel. Because we ALL deserve skin we feel good In.

And FYI to infini RF bandwagoners, I saw zero results with the procedure even though it was done in a fancy derm's office. Lutronic (the manufacturer of infini) is a shitty company. Cutera Secret PRO RFM was much more effective in raising my scars (and I did this at a med spa most find suspect lol...but the price was right and it worked to my favour). probably because cutera is a reputable company.Point: manufacturer matters.The final two attached photos are pictures of my face prior to any acne scar treatments besides eMatrix...

For those struggling...I hope my posts will help you. Improvement IS possible

 

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Posted : 01/01/2023 5:46 pm

Links to threads I started documenting specific procedures:

SEPT 27/2019 - BLUNT CANNULA SUBCISION + DILUTED SCULPTRA W. DR. LEMCKERT -

https://www.acne.org/forums/7-scar-treatments/384846-post-blunt-cannula-subcision-sculptra-1-wdrlemckert-hamilton-on-wpics

12/29/2020 - Radiesse & V-Shape Cannula Subcision & TCA Cross 70% & eCO2 -

https://www.acne.org/forums/7-scar-treatments/387307-70-tca-cross-v-cannula-subcision-lutronic-eco2-radiesse-with-dr-sajic-on-1229-guelph-on-canada

04/27/2021 - TCA Cross #2 & Mass Punch Excision -

https://www.acne.org/forums/7-scar-treatments/388238-infini-rf-blunt-cannula-subcision-w-sculptra-radiesse-tca-cross-90-erbium-mass-punch-excision-trio-with-rullan-skin-type-iv

 

by the way here are some more photos of me day 14 post phenol - https://imgur.com/a/Yit4p4Y

 

i AM expecting some more scars to appear. But you know what? If it happens, a second peel is in order or some alternative. I am beyond determined at this point. Acne scar improvement is all about persistence. My boyfriend has made it well known his opposed to me having a second peel but it is what it is. You gotta do what you think is best for you. Its your skin and you will be inside it for the rest of your life.

and Im sure I may have some PIH to deal with when the redness dies down given my skin type.

 

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Posted : 01/01/2023 6:28 pm

You have pretty good skin quality. Even without the peel, your skin is poreless.

Your scars were super soft prior the phenol peel, like no steep edges. My scar edges are much sharper (shallow boxcar, they look very little under angle lighting, but the edges are steep when looking very closely) and orange peel skin + mixed enlarged pores/ice picks. I am seeing all my scars return. Hope to see results in the second month as @Gynoscar.

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Posted : 01/01/2023 7:47 pm

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You have pretty good skin quality. Even without the peel, your skin is poreless.

Your scars were super soft prior the phenol peel, like no steep edges. My scar edges are much sharper (shallow boxcar, they look very little under angle lighting, but the edges are steep when looking very closely) and orange peel skin + mixed enlarged pores/ice picks. I am seeing all my scars return. Hope to see results in the second month as @Gynoscar.

Haha, thank you. I definitely have pores though, lol

During my procedure day 1 Dr.Rullan even pointed out to his nurse like "this is where her pores start" when he began to draw lines on my face

I've been using prescription retinol (micro retin-a) since I was 25 so I think it's helped thin my skin. By the way when do you plan to reincorporate retinol in your skincare? I think you had mentioned you were using it as well

Yeah...took a loooot of treatments to get my scars to have soft edges...punch excision, tca, and cutera secret pro rfm/eco2 helped with that

How's your redness now by the way

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Posted : 01/01/2023 8:01 pm

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Posted by: @froyosh

You have pretty good skin quality. Even without the peel, your skin is poreless.

Your scars were super soft prior the phenol peel, like no steep edges. My scar edges are much sharper (shallow boxcar, they look very little under angle lighting, but the edges are steep when looking very closely) and orange peel skin + mixed enlarged pores/ice picks. I am seeing all my scars return. Hope to see results in the second month as @Gynoscar.

Haha, thank you. I definitely have pores though, lol

During my procedure day 1 Dr.Rullan even pointed out to his nurse like "this is where her pores start" when he began to draw lines on my face

I've been using prescription retinol (micro retin-a) since I was 25 so I think it's helped thin my skin. By the way when do you plan to reincorporate retinol in your skincare? I think you had mentioned you were using it as well

Yeah...took a loooot of treatments to get my scars to have soft edges...punch excision, tca, and cutera secret pro rfm/eco2 helped with that

How's your redness now by the way

I will probably restart tretinoin in a few days, but I will just use tiny and twice a week. Also I am gonna use niacinamide. My skin is as red as yours, plus I can see my pores/scars.

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Posted : 01/02/2023 11:32 am

Posted by: @froyosh
Posted by: @catharsis2018
Posted by: @froyosh

You have pretty good skin quality. Even without the peel, your skin is poreless.

Your scars were super soft prior the phenol peel, like no steep edges. My scar edges are much sharper (shallow boxcar, they look very little under angle lighting, but the edges are steep when looking very closely) and orange peel skin + mixed enlarged pores/ice picks. I am seeing all my scars return. Hope to see results in the second month as @Gynoscar.

Haha, thank you. I definitely have pores though, lol

During my procedure day 1 Dr.Rullan even pointed out to his nurse like "this is where her pores start" when he began to draw lines on my face

I've been using prescription retinol (micro retin-a) since I was 25 so I think it's helped thin my skin. By the way when do you plan to reincorporate retinol in your skincare? I think you had mentioned you were using it as well

Yeah...took a loooot of treatments to get my scars to have soft edges...punch excision, tca, and cutera secret pro rfm/eco2 helped with that

How's your redness now by the way

I will probably restart tretinoin in a few days, but I will just use tiny and twice a week. Also I am gonna use niacinamide. My skin is as red as yours, plus I can see my pores/scars.

Im sorry to hear youre seeing them. Overall, so far, are you happy with the treatment? Will you be making your own forum regarding your results?

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Posted : 01/02/2023 6:37 pm

Posted by: @catharsis2018
Posted by: @froyosh
Posted by: @catharsis2018
Posted by: @froyosh

You have pretty good skin quality. Even without the peel, your skin is poreless.

Your scars were super soft prior the phenol peel, like no steep edges. My scar edges are much sharper (shallow boxcar, they look very little under angle lighting, but the edges are steep when looking very closely) and orange peel skin + mixed enlarged pores/ice picks. I am seeing all my scars return. Hope to see results in the second month as @Gynoscar.

Haha, thank you. I definitely have pores though, lol

During my procedure day 1 Dr.Rullan even pointed out to his nurse like "this is where her pores start" when he began to draw lines on my face

I've been using prescription retinol (micro retin-a) since I was 25 so I think it's helped thin my skin. By the way when do you plan to reincorporate retinol in your skincare? I think you had mentioned you were using it as well

Yeah...took a loooot of treatments to get my scars to have soft edges...punch excision, tca, and cutera secret pro rfm/eco2 helped with that

How's your redness now by the way

I will probably restart tretinoin in a few days, but I will just use tiny and twice a week. Also I am gonna use niacinamide. My skin is as red as yours, plus I can see my pores/scars.

Im sorry to hear youre seeing them. Overall, so far, are you happy with the treatment? Will you be making your own forum regarding your results?

We have different types of scars. I have mostly diffused ice picks, they are more visible when closely looking at it, as the scar edges are steep.

I don't trust what I see now, healing takes time. It's not the case that Dr. Rullan just scraped away scars.

No, I am not going to post in a separate thread, at least before seeing the final result. I hate posting my poor skin pictures online.

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Posted : 01/03/2023 1:23 pm

Day 16 post phenol peel - https://imgur.com/a/qAkldtp

trying to get overhead lighting to cast shadows

I can see some minor indents. Im pretty damn pleased overall.

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Posted : 01/03/2023 1:24 pm

Posted by: @froyosh
Posted by: @catharsis2018
Posted by: @froyosh
Posted by: @catharsis2018
Posted by: @froyosh

You have pretty good skin quality. Even without the peel, your skin is poreless.

Your scars were super soft prior the phenol peel, like no steep edges. My scar edges are much sharper (shallow boxcar, they look very little under angle lighting, but the edges are steep when looking very closely) and orange peel skin + mixed enlarged pores/ice picks. I am seeing all my scars return. Hope to see results in the second month as @Gynoscar.

Haha, thank you. I definitely have pores though, lol

During my procedure day 1 Dr.Rullan even pointed out to his nurse like "this is where her pores start" when he began to draw lines on my face

I've been using prescription retinol (micro retin-a) since I was 25 so I think it's helped thin my skin. By the way when do you plan to reincorporate retinol in your skincare? I think you had mentioned you were using it as well

Yeah...took a loooot of treatments to get my scars to have soft edges...punch excision, tca, and cutera secret pro rfm/eco2 helped with that

How's your redness now by the way

I will probably restart tretinoin in a few days, but I will just use tiny and twice a week. Also I am gonna use niacinamide. My skin is as red as yours, plus I can see my pores/scars.

Im sorry to hear youre seeing them. Overall, so far, are you happy with the treatment? Will you be making your own forum regarding your results?

We have different types of scars. I have mostly diffused ice picks, they are more visible when closely looking at it, as the scar edges are steep.

I don't trust what I see now, healing takes time. It's not the case that Dr. Rullan just scraped away scars.

No, I am not going to post in a separate thread, at least before seeing the final result. I hate posting my poor skin pictures online.

Fair enough. I hope you continue to see improvements. Yes, trust the process.
I do hope you decide to post a thread at some point

I find the phenol peel experience quite fascinating (lol but thats just me too)

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Posted : 01/03/2023 1:26 pm

Posted by: @catharsis2018

Day 16 post phenol peel - https://imgur.com/a/qAkldtp

trying to get overhead lighting to cast shadows

I can see some minor indents. Im pretty damn pleased overall.

Looks great!

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Posted : 01/03/2023 4:19 pm

Hey @Gynoscar, what was your skin care routine after phenol peel? Also, do you notice even further improvement after one year? When did you no longer see noticeable improvements?

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Posted : 01/03/2023 5:36 pm

Update:

went to my boyfriends, he has very harsh overhead lighting in his kitchen and I took advantage of the opportunity

Definitely can see my indents a lot better here

sharing for transparency and for educational purposes (:

https://imgur.com/a/SoUPQYE?s=sms

 

if they dont fill in, I think another peel is in order.

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Posted : 01/03/2023 5:38 pm

I also wonder if filler will be able to correct this but I am doubtful

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Posted : 01/03/2023 5:40 pm

Here is a comparison april 2022 vs today post phenol day 16 under bf same direct harsh lighting

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Posted : 01/04/2023 8:24 pm

Posted by: @catharsis2018

Here is a comparison april 2022 vs today post phenol day 16 under bf same direct harsh lighting

This really shows how far you've come. Congrats, I feel like your skin is truly reaching the point where you will soon be satisfied with it! Really good.

I hope it continues to improve. I'm going for my second subcision tomorrow followed by suction at home for 4 weeks. I hope I can improve.

My first subcision + co2 laser had like 5-10% improvement total, maybe. In the first 5-7 days, wow I was blemish. But I guess that was the microswelling effect... after the first week, the scar began coming back until now where they're almost at the base level. My doc doesn't do filler, and I didn't know about the suction back then. Now, nearly 1.5 months later, I will do with the suction and hope to see some improvement! I plan to do another subcision + suction in 3 months, and then another in 3 months, and perhaps try to find a doctor to do filler later in the year...

Unfortunately, my thread got deleted/lost during this forum "upgrade".

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Here is a comparison april 2022 vs today post phenol day 16 under bf same direct harsh lighting

This really shows how far you've come. Congrats, I feel like your skin is truly reaching the point where you will soon be satisfied with it! Really good.

I hope it continues to improve. I'm going for my second subcision tomorrow followed by suction at home for 4 weeks. I hope I can improve.

My first subcision + co2 laser had like 5-10% improvement total, maybe. In the first 5-7 days, wow I was blemish. But I guess that was the microswelling effect... after the first week, the scar began coming back until now where they're almost at the base level. My doc doesn't do filler, and I didn't know about the suction back then. Now, nearly 1.5 months later, I will do with the suction and hope to see some improvement! I plan to do another subcision + suction in 3 months, and then another in 3 months, and perhaps try to find a doctor to do filler later in the year...

Unfortunately, my thread got deleted/lost during this forum "upgrade".

Thank you. I sure hope so. Haha. What skin type are you? thats a good game plan. Treating your scars with manual methods should be prioritized prior to energy methods if youre at the beginning of your scar treatment journey

lol I wish they could sell microswelling in a bottle, I would be hooked.

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Posted : 01/06/2023 5:21 am

Its too soon to see. A fair point of evaluation after a deep peel is 6 month to a year. But so far so good. It just improves the overall quality of the skin. Plus make u look more youthful. Me personally I was getting swooned from girls after the peel which was interesting. But scars took a long time to get there. I would say 6 month to a year. Dont do any treatment for atleast a year and then decide if you need another peel. There is a regional peel as well where he just does the cheek area.

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Posted : 01/06/2023 4:36 pm

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Its too soon to see. A fair point of evaluation after a deep peel is 6 month to a year. But so far so good. It just improves the overall quality of the skin. Plus make u look more youthful. Me personally I was getting swooned from girls after the peel which was interesting. But scars took a long time to get there. I would say 6 month to a year. Dont do any treatment for atleast a year and then decide if you need another peel. There is a regional peel as well where he just does the cheek area.

How long did you wait until you did the second peel?
was your second peel regional?

and when did you stop seeing results after your first one?

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Posted : 01/06/2023 4:49 pm

Posted by: @catharsis2018
Posted by: @pinokyu
Posted by: @catharsis2018

Here is a comparison april 2022 vs today post phenol day 16 under bf same direct harsh lighting

This really shows how far you've come. Congrats, I feel like your skin is truly reaching the point where you will soon be satisfied with it! Really good.

I hope it continues to improve. I'm going for my second subcision tomorrow followed by suction at home for 4 weeks. I hope I can improve.

My first subcision + co2 laser had like 5-10% improvement total, maybe. In the first 5-7 days, wow I was blemish. But I guess that was the microswelling effect... after the first week, the scar began coming back until now where they're almost at the base level. My doc doesn't do filler, and I didn't know about the suction back then. Now, nearly 1.5 months later, I will do with the suction and hope to see some improvement! I plan to do another subcision + suction in 3 months, and then another in 3 months, and perhaps try to find a doctor to do filler later in the year...

Unfortunately, my thread got deleted/lost during this forum "upgrade".

Thank you. I sure hope so. Haha. What skin type are you? thats a good game plan. Treating your scars with manual methods should be prioritized prior to energy methods if youre at the beginning of your scar treatment journey

lol I wish they could sell microswelling in a bottle, I would be hooked.

I'm as white as they get. Blond and white. I did my second subcision, will start suction on the third day. Now with the microswelling + untethered scars, my big atrophic scar (which is the only one I really have and need to fix in my view), is like 90% leveled with the surrounding skin, looking great. Obviously, there are still some textural issues there, but that's another conversation.

Really, I just need to find a freaking way to make sure this doesn't re-tether again. If it remains untethered, even without microsweeling, I'll have like 70% improvement, which is crazy. Hopefully, I can achieve some of this with suction during the next 4 weeks! And in 3 months, I will go for the 3rd subcision and this time use filler (restylane lyft, recommended by the doctor to fill this area.)

Btw, the scar I'm talking about is this one (before subcision, 1.5 days after subcision). [edit: can't seem to directly post the link. try this: drive,google,com/file/d/1qDRndQ-JHwvmfFCAbsGihiPymPG9J7sF/view - switch commas for dots]

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Posted : 01/06/2023 4:49 pm

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Its too soon to see. A fair point of evaluation after a deep peel is 6 month to a year. But so far so good. It just improves the overall quality of the skin. Plus make u look more youthful. Me personally I was getting swooned from girls after the peel which was interesting. But scars took a long time to get there. I would say 6 month to a year. Dont do any treatment for atleast a year and then decide if you need another peel. There is a regional peel as well where he just does the cheek area.

How long did you wait until you did the second peel?
was your second peel regional?

and when did you stop seeing results after your first one?

I was impatient so after 3 months from my first peel I did a regional peel only covering the cheeks area. Because as per his study he said it can be done. But this caused my pores to temporarily enlarge after my second session for a long time, scars improved though. But in hindsight atleast 6 months to even consider a second regional peel.

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Posted : 01/06/2023 5:14 pm

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Posted by: @catharsis2018
Posted by: @getsmart121

Its too soon to see. A fair point of evaluation after a deep peel is 6 month to a year. But so far so good. It just improves the overall quality of the skin. Plus make u look more youthful. Me personally I was getting swooned from girls after the peel which was interesting. But scars took a long time to get there. I would say 6 month to a year. Dont do any treatment for atleast a year and then decide if you need another peel. There is a regional peel as well where he just does the cheek area.

How long did you wait until you did the second peel?
was your second peel regional?

and when did you stop seeing results after your first one?

I was impatient so after 3 months from my first peel I did a regional peel only covering the cheeks area. Because as per his study he said it can be done. But this caused my pores to temporarily enlarge after my second session for a long time, scars improved though. But in hindsight atleast 6 months to even consider a second regional peel.

I think Ill wait 8 months and boook it for the last week of august

im also scared hes going to retire soon

but after the first one when did you stop seeing results? Were you still seeing results after 30 days?

How long was the downtime for the second regional?

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Posted : 01/06/2023 5:17 pm

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Posted by: @catharsis2018
Posted by: @pinokyu
Posted by: @catharsis2018

Here is a comparison april 2022 vs today post phenol day 16 under bf same direct harsh lighting

This really shows how far you've come. Congrats, I feel like your skin is truly reaching the point where you will soon be satisfied with it! Really good.

I hope it continues to improve. I'm going for my second subcision tomorrow followed by suction at home for 4 weeks. I hope I can improve.

My first subcision + co2 laser had like 5-10% improvement total, maybe. In the first 5-7 days, wow I was blemish. But I guess that was the microswelling effect... after the first week, the scar began coming back until now where they're almost at the base level. My doc doesn't do filler, and I didn't know about the suction back then. Now, nearly 1.5 months later, I will do with the suction and hope to see some improvement! I plan to do another subcision + suction in 3 months, and then another in 3 months, and perhaps try to find a doctor to do filler later in the year...

Unfortunately, my thread got deleted/lost during this forum "upgrade".

Thank you. I sure hope so. Haha. What skin type are you? thats a good game plan. Treating your scars with manual methods should be prioritized prior to energy methods if youre at the beginning of your scar treatment journey

lol I wish they could sell microswelling in a bottle, I would be hooked.

I'm as white as they get. Blond and white. I did my second subcision, will start suction on the third day. Now with the microswelling + untethered scars, my big atrophic scar (which is the only one I really have and need to fix in my view), is like 90% leveled with the surrounding skin, looking great. Obviously, there are still some textural issues there, but that's another conversation.

Really, I just need to find a freaking way to make sure this doesn't re-tether again. If it remains untethered, even without microsweeling, I'll have like 70% improvement, which is crazy. Hopefully, I can achieve some of this with suction during the next 4 weeks! And in 3 months, I will go for the 3rd subcision and this time use filler (restylane lyft, recommended by the doctor to fill this area.)

Btw, the scar I'm talking about is this one (before subcision, 1.5 days after subcision). [edit: can't seem to directly post the link. try this: drive,google,com/file/d/1qDRndQ-JHwvmfFCAbsGihiPymPG9J7sF/view - switch commas for dots]

Thats a great before after wow

so just subcision and no filler to act as a spacer?

did they do tumescent anesthesia prior to the subcision? Whose the doc thats doing your subcision

lucky for you being so fair skinned. Can get away with a lot of energy treatments

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Posted : 01/07/2023 12:24 am

Day 19 Imgur https://imgur.com/a/pyOTxU4

took under overhead lighting but scars look much smoother lol I guess no lighting is as harsh as my bfs harsh kitchenoverhead lighting lol. Thinking about taking some there soon to compare when I have the opportunity

 

Ive noticed my new skin has white fuzzy hair (something I never dealt with before.. Ive been doing laser hair removal but may also begin doing my face bc of this new hair beginning February).

I also am thinking of hopefully having my second peel in the last week of august, after judging them at six month period

I am quite pleased still. Its really hard to capture my scars in most lighting which is lovely. Even in overhead lighting, on some angles it can look so smooth.. something i never experienced before so i can see now what @gynoscar meant in their post regarding their phenol experience and how their face looks so much smoother

 

I plan to take some outside soon as well.
I havent begun introducing retinol or vitamin c back yet may wait until the day 30+ mark. Been relying mostly on Alastin. Bought another tube of it.

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Posted : 01/07/2023 1:48 am

Posted by: @catharsis2018

Day 19 Imgur https://imgur.com/a/pyOTxU4

took under overhead lighting but scars look much smoother lol I guess no lighting is as harsh as my bfs harsh kitchenoverhead lighting lol. Thinking about taking some there soon to compare when I have the opportunity

 

Ive noticed my new skin has white fuzzy hair (something I never dealt with before.. Ive been doing laser hair removal but may also begin doing my face bc of this new hair beginning February).

I also am thinking of hopefully having my second peel in the last week of august, after judging them at six month period

I am quite pleased still. Its really hard to capture my scars in most lighting which is lovely. Even in overhead lighting, on some angles it can look so smooth.. something i never experienced before so i can see now what @gynoscar meant in their post regarding their phenol experience and how their face looks so much smoother

 

I plan to take some outside soon as well.
I havent begun introducing retinol or vitamin c back yet may wait until the day 30+ mark. Been relying mostly on Alastin. Bought another tube of it.

Your skin looks sooooo smooth, you don't need a second peel.

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Posted : 01/07/2023 10:24 pm

Posted by: @froyosh
Posted by: @catharsis2018

Day 19 Imgur https://imgur.com/a/pyOTxU4

took under overhead lighting but scars look much smoother lol I guess no lighting is as harsh as my bfs harsh kitchenoverhead lighting lol. Thinking about taking some there soon to compare when I have the opportunity

 

Ive noticed my new skin has white fuzzy hair (something I never dealt with before.. Ive been doing laser hair removal but may also begin doing my face bc of this new hair beginning February).

I also am thinking of hopefully having my second peel in the last week of august, after judging them at six month period

I am quite pleased still. Its really hard to capture my scars in most lighting which is lovely. Even in overhead lighting, on some angles it can look so smooth.. something i never experienced before so i can see now what @gynoscar meant in their post regarding their phenol experience and how their face looks so much smoother

 

I plan to take some outside soon as well.
I havent begun introducing retinol or vitamin c back yet may wait until the day 30+ mark. Been relying mostly on Alastin. Bought another tube of it.

Your skin looks sooooo smooth, you don't need a second peel.

Thank you but I still have some divots that are bothersome...if they don't improve in 6 months, I will want to do a second peel

Never thought I would but also kind of in the thinking now that "I didn't get this far to only get this far" you know? I think with a second peel, I could truly be content..

so close to it now

 

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