His scars aren't "far more minor than anyone on this board. (2004)" He likely uses makeup (you can too - I do), which makes them look not as bad. And all 3 of the other people are not white.

That's an awesome reply.

By the way, too bad this thread deteriorated from something positive, serious and constructive to the same old negative stuff. lol

EagerMiner, listen to what people are telling you about negativity. Forget about the scar discussion, and understand the way you present yourself. You can't turn that on and off for interviews. Take a good look around you, the vast majority of people are ordinary, even homely.

Interesting fact: I used to think that homely meant that you liked to be at home a lot. I didn't know it meant "plain looking" in the past so one time I actually said that a woman was homely...which was somewhat awkward. There wasn't any real drama due to that but...it was awkward. haha

EagerMiner, keep your chin up, ok?

EagerMiner, listen to what people are telling you about negativity. Forget about the scar discussion, and understand the way you present yourself. You can't turn that on and off for interviews. Take a good look around you, the vast majority of people are ordinary, even homely.

I wouldn't be so worried about my scars, if I had a normal life. In fact I wasn't even aware of them for many years where I only focused on studying. Only after graduating university as a kissless virgin did I realize my below-average skin is what held me back all my life. Now I can't even get a good job or really get anywhere in life. Even these treatments require so much time in addition to the time I have already spent.

I know that most people don't look good in real life, but at least they have normal skin. I am sure that I at least look average I had normal skin instead of a 3cm x 3cm scarred area on my left (in particular) +right cheek and bits of both temples. If I looked normal overall, I would have had a normal experience in life and not be stuck in the gutter indefinitely.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say that even before you got acne you had problems with your social life?

You are the one choosing to be stuck in the gutter.

Are scars attractive? No, they aren't.

Some girls WILL reject you because of your scars.So it's up to you to find the ones that won't.

Don't get me wrong, you should definitely try to improve your skin, since it bothers you so much.

However, there are many examples of people who to you don't look 'normal', but who have it pretty good when it comes to relationships, for example :

Seal, who has way worse scarring than you, married Heidi Klum.

Katie Piper, the burn victim girl has a boyfriend and is pregnant.

Nick Vujicic, who was born with no limbs married an attractive 'normal' girl.

So you can't really blame the way your life is entirely on your scars, sorry.

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Eager, if the pics that were posted 4 weeks ago is how you look currently, I think you've made a considerable amount of progress. I'm actually very surprised that these results were from Fraxel Restore, which has gotten bad reviews in the past.

Yes, I had 6 sessions from april-november in 2012, and then took pics this october, and had a 7th after that.

The before pics are after I shaved so the skin was very red, but I still know for sure that obvious improvement occurred. My settings were 45-70mj (progressive) on type IV skin with no side effects.

I am expecting more improvement from enerjet and professional dermarolling. A few thousand dollars more can't hurt me.

>>>>>>I agree if you can get counseling and learn to be happy, that is the best goal. Because really, in the end, if you equate happiness with looking good, you will eventually be miserable because these bodies weren't meant to look good forever, and as you age you will be paranoid about everything and spend all your money on face lifts, etc. and probably end up looking like the cat woman. I understand people who have severe scarring want to try some things, but if they don't work, don't lose your mind and spend the rest of your life trying to fix it, it may just not be fixable.

I have some slight scars that have improved all they are going to improve without a miracle treatment. Mine is not genetic, everyone in my family has good skin, even my twin sister, so please don't go killing your mothers, peeps, LOL! Maybe I do have a bad immune system or something, but I would never blame my poor mother, why not just blame God like everyone else does, he is more responsible. Some people need real emotional help on here, that is for sure.

Mine is completely genetic. It was irresponsible for my mother to have me in the first place, let alone not get me accutane early (they waited almost 2 years of me being an oozing pizzaface). She had scars herself and wasn't smart enough to control my acne fast so I wouldn't develop them.

I am getting a vasectomy to make sure I don't pass on my odious genetics and leave behind a son who becomes a social leper.

It is odd how much people blame everything on psychology when the answer is right in front of their face. No one wants to accept the truth: That we judge people heavily based on their appearance and that said person's appearance HEAVILY influences their social behavior.

You seem to have a very wise outlook on life, I'm glad someone else shares my viewpoint.

My dad had horrible skin conditions and decided to still have children. As it turns out, my brother and I both got MUCH worse skin than even him. I have rosacea, keratosis pilaris, erythromelalgia and horrible acne for 10 years that hasn't gone away despite my constant efforts to treat it. I literally have red bumps and rashes over my entire body; Face, neck, shoulders, arms, back, legs... It's quite comical that somehow these genetics ACTUALLY survived this long. Somehow after so many years of evolution and technological and social advancement people are still born like me and have to live like me in a dark hole shut out from the rest of the world.

I had a CO2 laser procedure done 1.5 years ago that caused even more scarring and raised burn scars all over my face. I did it out of desperation to try to treat the horrible scars all over my face from constant acne. Doctors are scam artists.

I wish I was never born. I wish my mom wasn't so stupid to have children with such an inbred-looking, disease-ridden person.

I'm almost 30 and never had a girlfriend and never been even remotely attractive to girls. I have to suffer through life and live a pointless existence because of ignorant thoughtless parents. It's so frustrating to be thrust into a life you didn't choose, trying to coexist with an animal race that judges and condemns you for how you look, and then pretends like they don't when you confront them about it.

Life is so sad and lonely...

My dad was just really macho, so he was attractive to my mom in that way. Unfortunately I didn't even inherit that; I have never been able to put on weight and I have very weak features. My mother was really attractive and charismatic. I have a sister with another dad and she is very good looking. I know exactly how that is.

I was raised exclusively by mom because my dad actually left and divorced before I was born, and so I had a really high self-esteem and was trained into thinking I was going to be attractive like her. Then after years and years of being put into the friendzone by only mildly attractive girls many times and hanging out with them and their boyfriends I had to eventually face the hard truth...

Having children that would have these diseases is an act of selfishness. To know that I would be creating a person that would suffer even a fraction of what I have is horrifying.

Wow, some people here. Seriously, kill your mother??? You think your mother wanted to have that gene? It was passed unto her. So really, if there is anyone to blame, it's your whole line of ancestry tracing back to millions or thousands of years ago for not developing or evolving.

Anyways, i will apply some logic to what some people are saying. If you think males who are "ugly" will never have someone to love him. Then EVERY PERsON IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY would have GOOD GENES. Because the one with bad genes will die while the good genes will spread. Makes sense? I am applying the theory of natural selection.

Plus, i saw some people's pictures here, and to be honest your scars is noticable but not to the point of disfigurement or disgusting. I mean, i have scars, and most of the time, worse than some people here, BUT i have very good friends. Sure ive experienced the a-holes but i've cut them out of my life and considered them non exsisting. Dont get me wrong, i have my bad days, but i will fight.

And to the OP, you might not have any improvements but you havent told us details about you. What's your age, healing ability, skin type, how aggresive your treatments were, intervals of treatments, were you consistent, how's your diet, your nutrition, etc.

So much factors to consider. You say that it is impossible to have major improvement but what i read and see in posts are opposite.

Really, some people here have a distorted view to the point that it's not only them that's affected but other people as well.

I dont really mind if you want to continue your life living in a hell created by yourself but please do not bring it to our world.

Wow, some people here. Seriously, kill your mother??? You think your mother wanted to have that gene? It was passed unto her. So really, if there is anyone to blame, it's your whole line of ancestry tracing back to millions or thousands of years ago for not developing or evolving.

Anyways, i will apply some logic to what some people are saying. If you think males who are "ugly" will never have someone to love him. Then EVERY PERsON IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY would have GOOD GENES. Because the one with bad genes will die while the good genes will spread. Makes sense? I am applying the theory of natural selection.

Plus, i saw some people's pictures here, and to be honest your scars is noticable but not to the point of disfigurement or disgusting. I mean, i have scars, and most of the time, worse than some people here, BUT i have very good friends. Sure ive experienced the a-holes but i've cut them out of my life and considered them non exsisting. Dont get me wrong, i have my bad days, but i will fight.

And to the OP, you might not have any improvements but you havent told us details about you. What's your age, healing ability, skin type, how aggresive your treatments were, intervals of treatments, were you consistent, how's your diet, your nutrition, etc.

So much factors to consider. You say that it is impossible to have major improvement but what i read and see in posts are opposite.

Really, some people here have a distorted view to the point that it's not only them that's affected but other people as well.

I dont really mind if you want to continue your life living in a hell created by yourself but please do not bring it to our world.

There's lots of rage and frustration that you cannot understand unless you've really been in a really bad spot. I've been there. What about when you meet this parent who cursed you so badly for the first time in your life at 14 years old and they make fun of you because you are tired all the time(allergies) and call you stupid because you had long vertical facial development because of said allergies. PROBLEMS YOU INHERITED FROM THEM!

You must realize that there are actually people out there like me who SUFFER exponentially more than those merely with acne scars, which seems to be your main problem. This problem merely adds to my many list of things I suffer from. I have been traumatized so badly by not only my dad and peers, but also especially by girls that I became really good friends with over the years. I'm positive that you can't even begin to imagine the horrors I've seen in my life.

And yes, I understand all too well what it's like to be exiled and isolated. I will stop interrupting your crusade against the singular problem known as acne scarring.

Ultimately people don't want others around them who suffer really badly. We exile them from our lives and try to forget the problems exist.

My dad was just really macho, so he was attractive to my mom in that way. Unfortunately I didn't even inherit that; I have never been able to put on weight and I have very weak features. My mother was really attractive and charismatic. I have a sister with another dad and she is very good looking. I know exactly how that is.

I was raised exclusively by mom because my dad actually left and divorced before I was born, and so I had a really high self-esteem and was trained into thinking I was going to be attractive like her. Then after years and years of being put into the friendzone by only mildly attractive girls many times and hanging out with them and their boyfriends I had to eventually face the hard truth...

Having children that would have these diseases is an act of selfishness. To know that I would be creating a person that would suffer even a fraction of what I have is horrifying.

Yes, I have my mother`s weak and oval eyes, instead of my fathers sharp piercing ones. He also has broad shoulders and is 6`1. I have a narrow frame with no masculinity and am barely 5`10. My mother is 5`0 and has acne scarring with a bad frame. My jaw is also not very masculine, it isn't tapered and square like my fathers, it is rounded and boring. I haven't ever been in the friend zone and I never intend to be -- I have too much self respect. I don't think I will ever bother with women unless my treatments go remarkably well. Getting a job and seeing high quality escorts is a much better option, and ultimately much more efficient for someone with a facial abnormality.

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Wow, some people here. Seriously, kill your mother??? You think your mother wanted to have that gene? It was passed unto her. So really, if there is anyone to blame, it's your whole line of ancestry tracing back to millions or thousands of years ago for not developing or evolving.

Anyways, i will apply some logic to what some people are saying. If you think males who are "ugly" will never have someone to love him. Then EVERY PERsON IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY would have GOOD GENES. Because the one with bad genes will die while the good genes will spread. Makes sense? I am applying the theory of natural selection.

Plus, i saw some people's pictures here, and to be honest your scars is noticable but not to the point of disfigurement or disgusting. I mean, i have scars, and most of the time, worse than some people here, BUT i have very good friends. Sure ive experienced the a-holes but i've cut them out of my life and considered them non exsisting. Dont get me wrong, i have my bad days, but i will fight.

And to the OP, you might not have any improvements but you havent told us details about you. What's your age, healing ability, skin type, how aggresive your treatments were, intervals of treatments, were you consistent, how's your diet, your nutrition, etc.

So much factors to consider. You say that it is impossible to have major improvement but what i read and see in posts are opposite.

Really, some people here have a distorted view to the point that it's not only them that's affected but other people as well.

I dont really mind if you want to continue your life living in a hell created by yourself but please do not bring it to our world.

There's lots of rage and frustration that you cannot understand unless you've really been in a really bad spot. I've been there. What about when you meet this parent who cursed you so badly for the first time in your life at 14 years old and they make fun of you because you are tired all the time(allergies) and call you stupid because you had long vertical facial development because of said allergies.

You must realize that there are actually people out there like me who SUFFER exponentially more than those merely with acne scars, which seems to be your main problem. This problem merely adds to my many list of things I suffer from.

And yes, I understand all too well what it's like to be exiled and isolated. I will stop interrupting your crusade against the singular problem known as acne scarring.

Good point, not even talking about the physical features here, my father was an alcoholic drunk who blew all his money away and abused my whole family to this day. Not only did my parents not give me any good physical traits, they also raised me in a mental hospital, I still have PTSD-like memories of my youth (and I am living at home again after graduating unemployed). My parents also both (especially my father) have severe mental issues, of course they never held my father back from dating because he looked good atleast till he was 25-30.

We have so little control over our lives, it's only the most naive who think that we have any tangible control over our position in life. Take any man who is succesful at dating, it will be because of his inherited physical attractiveness, hands down. Someone with inherited FLAWS, will have an uphill battle to attain the scraps in life, if anything.

I am sick of being told to enter therapy and meds. Meds are no better than a placebo, with major side effects like lower testosterone and sexual dysfunction. They tell every poor/unattractive schmuck at those sessions the same plattitudes and catch-all advice to feel good. When in reality the only therapy that will help is increasing one's income and/or physical appearance. Depression occurs after a person realizes he is inferior, not the other way around.

Psychology and the associated physiology is a bullshit field that accomplishes nothing, just like dermatology. I'm glad you are steering clear of it. Both fields seem to be prone to screwing you up way more than helping. Neither one targets the source of the problems they claim to address. We are a society of band aid solutions.

And worse we are incredibly deceptive to one another. Not only in these treatments, but also on the topic of physical attractiveness. I've become really good friends with girls who tortured me to no end because they wanted to stay friends, merely stating that they didn't want to ruin the friendship and one thousand other bullshit excuses that all dodged the reality that was that I was too ugly for them and would be an embarrassment in front of their other friends.

But they stayed friends with me because I genuinely enjoyed talking to them and spent countless hours talking and appreciating them. What good did that do for me? Now they are engaged or married and I'm left to either be alone or buy prostitutes or something dreadful like that. This is your reward for being ugly. I was taught by my mom and society that women were compassionate... That's a conditional sentiment. The world used me up and is now finished with me.

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My dad was just really macho, so he was attractive to my mom in that way. Unfortunately I didn't even inherit that; I have never been able to put on weight and I have very weak features. My mother was really attractive and charismatic. I have a sister with another dad and she is very good looking. I know exactly how that is.

I was raised exclusively by mom because my dad actually left and divorced before I was born, and so I had a really high self-esteem and was trained into thinking I was going to be attractive like her. Then after years and years of being put into the friendzone by only mildly attractive girls many times and hanging out with them and their boyfriends I had to eventually face the hard truth...

Having children that would have these diseases is an act of selfishness. To know that I would be creating a person that would suffer even a fraction of what I have is horrifying.

Yes, I have my mother`s weak and oval eyes, instead of my fathers sharp piercing ones. He also has broad shoulders and is 6`1. I have a narrow frame with no masculinity and am barely 5`10. My mother is 5`0 and has acne scarring with a bad frame. My jaw is also not very masculine, it isn't tapered and square like my fathers, it is rounded and boring. I haven't ever been in the friend zone and I never intend to be -- I have too much self respect. I don't think I will ever bother with women unless my treatments go remarkably well. Getting a job and seeing high quality escorts is a much better option, and ultimately much more efficient for someone with a facial abnormality.

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Wow, some people here. Seriously, kill your mother??? You think your mother wanted to have that gene? It was passed unto her. So really, if there is anyone to blame, it's your whole line of ancestry tracing back to millions or thousands of years ago for not developing or evolving.

Anyways, i will apply some logic to what some people are saying. If you think males who are "ugly" will never have someone to love him. Then EVERY PERsON IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY would have GOOD GENES. Because the one with bad genes will die while the good genes will spread. Makes sense? I am applying the theory of natural selection.

Plus, i saw some people's pictures here, and to be honest your scars is noticable but not to the point of disfigurement or disgusting. I mean, i have scars, and most of the time, worse than some people here, BUT i have very good friends. Sure ive experienced the a-holes but i've cut them out of my life and considered them non exsisting. Dont get me wrong, i have my bad days, but i will fight.

And to the OP, you might not have any improvements but you havent told us details about you. What's your age, healing ability, skin type, how aggresive your treatments were, intervals of treatments, were you consistent, how's your diet, your nutrition, etc.

So much factors to consider. You say that it is impossible to have major improvement but what i read and see in posts are opposite.

Really, some people here have a distorted view to the point that it's not only them that's affected but other people as well.

I dont really mind if you want to continue your life living in a hell created by yourself but please do not bring it to our world.

There's lots of rage and frustration that you cannot understand unless you've really been in a really bad spot. I've been there. What about when you meet this parent who cursed you so badly for the first time in your life at 14 years old and they make fun of you because you are tired all the time(allergies) and call you stupid because you had long vertical facial development because of said allergies.

You must realize that there are actually people out there like me who SUFFER exponentially more than those merely with acne scars, which seems to be your main problem. This problem merely adds to my many list of things I suffer from.

And yes, I understand all too well what it's like to be exiled and isolated. I will stop interrupting your crusade against the singular problem known as acne sca

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Good point, not even talking about the physical features here, my father was an alcoholic drunk who blew all his money away and abused my whole family to this day. Not only did my parents not give me any good physical traits, they also raised me in a mental hospital, I still have PTSD-like memories of my youth (and I am living at home again after graduating unemployed). My parents also both (especially my father) have severe mental issues, of course they never held my father back from dating because he looked good atleast till he was 25-30.

We have so little control over our lives, it's only the most naive who think that we have any tangible control over our position in life. Take any man who is succesful at dating, it will be because of his inherited physical attractiveness, hands down. Someone with inherited FLAWS, will have an uphill battle to attain the scraps in life, if anything.

I am sick of being told to enter therapy and meds. Meds are no better than a placebo, with major side effects like lower testosterone and sexual dysfunction. They tell every poor/unattractive schmuck at those sessions the same plattitudes and catch-all advice to feel good. When in reality the only therapy that will help is increasing one's income and/or physical appearance. Depression occurs after a person realizes he is inferior, not the other way around.

Psychology and the associated physiology is a bullshit field that accomplishes nothing, just like dermatology. I'm glad you are steering clear of it. Both fields seem to be prone to screwing you up way more than helping. Neither one targets the source of the problems they claim to address. We are a society of band aid solutions.

And worse we are incredibly deceptive to one another. Not only in these treatments, but also on the topic of physical attractiveness. I've become really good friends with girls who tortured me to no end because they wanted to stay friends, merely stating that they didn't want to ruin the friendship and one thousand other bullshit excuses that all dodged the reality that was that I was too ugly for them and would be an embarrassment in front of their other friends.

But they stayed friends with me because I genuinely enjoyed talking to them and spent countless hours talking and appreciating them. What good did that do for me? Now they are engaged or married and I'm left to either be alone or buy prostitutes or something dreadful like that.

Yep, for dating, girls only look for 2 things:

> is he hot enough (something that is 99% genetic once you are at a normal body weight and showered)

> is he acceptable to my friends (every girl has millions of friends who she has to impress)

Money only comes into play when a guy wants to be a cuckold provider, or for escorts. I have met so many homely men who did have wives and girlfriends, but they were past their primes and it was obvious they were just playing nice because he was getting paid. I will never get married to a woman who isn't a virgin, who wants to work so hard at a career only to accept another man's (mens' more like it) trash?

The tall white guys with hot faces and broad shoulders bang all the women in their prime, and then average or homely men work their asses off to be providers for them at the end of their sexual value. I see it very clearly. As a man who isn't significantly attractive, or even average, we are best off sticking to high quality escorts and avoiding relationships with women who have been with the hunks in their past life, it wouldn't be a fair exchange to accept rubbish just because you got unlucky. Take control of your life and shit on the parasites that society is filled with. Increase your income and keep your sanity by enjoying escorts.

I do believe that dermatology is sophistry, but overall it is still more effective (compared to bs like psych), after all, I could still be a pizza face were it not for accutane (mom still gets red pimples at 45). We're talking about 0-1% to maybe 25-50%. Plastic surgery and the cosmetic enhancement field takes advantages of people who know the importance of looks, but they know deep down that they can not re-create beauty with their procedures. However, if you have a flaw you might as well try to get any correction you can towards it. I intend on spending all of my money on escorts, skin treatments, and any hedonism I feel like. Now that I know I don't have the looks nor genes to live a standard family life, I can do whatever the fuck I want. That is the only plus of living our lifestyle.

Well said. You seem to have acquired the HIGHLY undervalued and rare characteristic of intelligence that most of this sad race lacks. I hope you can find a use for it to acquire some small amount of happiness.

Ultimately people don't want others around them who suffer really badly. We exile them from our lives and try to forget the problems exist.

There's some truth to that statement. I've seen this happen where people notice that someone has problems and then keep them at a distance. I don't know exactly why that is... I can only speculate. But it happens. But once again nuanced thinking and a nuanced view of the world around you is better; plenty of people don't automatically shun those with issues.

Physical problems can limit the amount of options you have in life which can lead to "forms of pain for which there are no words in the English language" to quote someone who really has lived in isolation for no less than 15 years due to illness. It's understandable that people are bitter and frustrated and angry and gloomy and whatnot when they are truly in that situation.

Ultimately though, you have to make a decision at some point. It's like you don't have the ingredients to make your favorite dish. So what are you going to do? Not eat? Or are you going to look around in your kitchen and make the most tasty dish you can and enjoy it as much as you can?

You have to move on at some point. Like Tricia said "play the hand you are given". If one approach doesn't work, try another. Put your thoughts to the test: is it really the way you think? Also, some parts of posts people have made here are a crystal clear indication of immaturity. I won't mention which parts... It's kind of obvious which ones they are. I'm sorry but some people here at times sounded like clueless 16 year olds. Growing up really helps too, you know? Not that I'm trivializing anyone's problems.

Start moving towards a more positive attitude, people! You'll do yourselves a favor.

And if anyone gets rubbed the wrong way by this post then I'd say read it again...think about it...and chill out.

Well said. You seem to have acquired the HIGHLY undervalued and rare characteristic of intelligence that most of this sad race lacks. I hope you can find a use for it to acquire some small amount of happiness.

Thanks, I do consider myself reasonably intelligent despite my lack of social experience. Despite that, I am still able to look at life critically and see it for what it is. I am actually not that unhappy, since I didn't really do the whole "looking for a gf and trying to be social" phase ever. I saw some escorts after turning 22 this year and enjoyed it. I am just trying to re-engage my career and focus on money and doing whatever I want in life, I am very used to being isolated since my earliest days so I guess I have that advantage. Most men would go crazy having lived my life.

I have been to tons of plastic surgery consults (trying to go from average to model tier with ridiculous things like facial implants) and realized how much bs this industry really is. Most pictures are altered and faked, and these surgeons don't really even know much about aesthetics themselves, they are just trained in a list of procedures and like conmen, they pitch you on them. It's total bs and to not see through the scam is pitiful. I only recommend cosmetic procedures if your flaw is significant (acne scars), because small improvement trumps absolutely nothing. However steer clear of the cosmetic industry and for sure psychologists. The only way to improve your life is to improve your finances and get into good physical shape (you can't change your features but you can at least be fit and gaunt). Don't let these idiots fool us that some for-profit pills are going to make it all better. If that were true you wouldn't have all the carnage in the world that we see every day.

Well said. You seem to have acquired the HIGHLY undervalued and rare characteristic of intelligence that most of this sad race lacks. I hope you can find a use for it to acquire some small amount of happiness.

Thanks, I do consider myself reasonably intelligent despite my lack of social experience. Despite that, I am still able to look at life critically and see it for what it is. I am actually not that unhappy, since I didn't really do the whole "looking for a gf and trying to be social" phase ever. I saw some escorts after turning 22 this year and enjoyed it. I am just trying to re-engage my career and focus on money and doing whatever I want in life, I am very used to being isolated since my earliest days so I guess I have that advantage. Most men would go crazy having lived my life.

I have been to tons of plastic surgery consults (trying to go from average to model tier with ridiculous things like facial implants) and realized how much bs this industry really is. Most pictures are altered and faked, and these surgeons don't really even know much about aesthetics themselves, they are just trained in a list of procedures and like conmen, they pitch you on them. It's total bs and to not see through the scam is pitiful. I only recommend cosmetic procedures if your flaw is significant (acne scars), because small improvement trumps absolutely nothing. However steer clear of the cosmetic industry and for sure psychologists. The only way to improve your life is to improve your finances and get into good physical shape (you can't change your features but you can at least be fit and gaunt). Don't let these idiots fool us that some for-profit pills are going to make it all better. If that were true you wouldn't have all the carnage in the world that we see every day.

Well said. You seem to have acquired the HIGHLY undervalued and rare characteristic of intelligence that most of this sad race lacks. I hope you can find a use for it to acquire some small amount of happiness.

Thanks, I do consider myself reasonably intelligent despite my lack of social experience. Despite that, I am still able to look at life critically and see it for what it is. I am actually not that unhappy, since I didn't really do the whole "looking for a gf and trying to be social" phase ever. I saw some escorts after turning 22 this year and enjoyed it. I am just trying to re-engage my career and focus on money and doing whatever I want in life, I am very used to being isolated since my earliest days so I guess I have that advantage. Most men would go crazy having lived my life.

I have been to tons of plastic surgery consults (trying to go from average to model tier with ridiculous things like facial implants) and realized how much bs this industry really is. Most pictures are altered and faked, and these surgeons don't really even know much about aesthetics themselves, they are just trained in a list of procedures and like conmen, they pitch you on them. It's total bs and to not see through the scam is pitiful. I only recommend cosmetic procedures if your flaw is significant (acne scars), because small improvement trumps absolutely nothing. However steer clear of the cosmetic industry and for sure psychologists. The only way to improve your life is to improve your finances and get into good physical shape (you can't change your features but you can at least be fit and gaunt). Don't let these idiots fool us that some for-profit pills are going to make it all better. If that were true you wouldn't have all the carnage in the world that we see every day.

Get off your pity party - you owe it to yourself. See a therapist if you need to.

My God, there is so much more to life than being good looking. Being average or ugly is not an advantage but it weeds out the people who aren't worth your time. Every single one of us will end up old and frail eventually - some of us will get horrible crippling, disfiguring diseases or get into accidents that will leave you hideous. The MOST important thing is how you treat others, your intelligence, humor, wit, etc. - as they say, beauty fades but dumb is forever. Isn't that what you would care about in a long term relationship? Extreme vanity is a massive turn off for almost everyone.

On another note, you will magnify your flaws no matter what they are. Nobody probably cares.

Phew...and all this is because there is no cure for acne and no cure for scars. Cure can't come soon enough.

I'm sorry if this is offensive, but your adherence to both psychology and implicitly religion (with your reference to capitalized 'God') do not make you out to be very intelligent. And "Nobody probably cares" is almost exactly right, except that I care. I dreamt of having a girlfriend all of my life, and I did as my mom told me to do - to listen to girls and be courteous and kind and appreciate them. And it didn't work, time and time again. It was always just a dream for me. I have suffered far far far FAR beyond what you can possibly understand. I have seen and experienced pain that you would think is only possible in nightmares. This isn't a pity party, this is reality. Some of us are just born in such a way that we don't fit in with society at all. I don't have a single quality that is attractive to girls except that I was nice, and that doesn't seem to be enough. Girls care about their peers and social circles. They want a person whose qualities they can admire and that their peers can admire. You must understand that there are disfigurements and diseases that people are born with that leave people unable to cope with society at all, WE AREN'T even given the opportunity to make mistakes to acquire these disfigurements. We were born with them.

Wow, some people here. Seriously, kill your mother??? You think your mother wanted to have that gene? It was passed unto her. So really, if there is anyone to blame, it's your whole line of ancestry tracing back to millions or thousands of years ago for not developing or evolving.

Anyways, i will apply some logic to what some people are saying. If you think males who are "ugly" will never have someone to love him. Then EVERY PERsON IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY would have GOOD GENES. Because the one with bad genes will die while the good genes will spread. Makes sense? I am applying the theory of natural selection.

Plus, i saw some people's pictures here, and to be honest your scars is noticable but not to the point of disfigurement or disgusting. I mean, i have scars, and most of the time, worse than some people here, BUT i have very good friends. Sure ive experienced the a-holes but i've cut them out of my life and considered them non exsisting. Dont get me wrong, i have my bad days, but i will fight.

And to the OP, you might not have any improvements but you havent told us details about you. What's your age, healing ability, skin type, how aggresive your treatments were, intervals of treatments, were you consistent, how's your diet, your nutrition, etc.

So much factors to consider. You say that it is impossible to have major improvement but what i read and see in posts are opposite.

Really, some people here have a distorted view to the point that it's not only them that's affected but other people as well.

I dont really mind if you want to continue your life living in a hell created by yourself but please do not bring it to our world.

There's lots of rage and frustration that you cannot understand unless you've really been in a really bad spot. I've been there. What about when you meet this parent who cursed you so badly for the first time in your life at 14 years old and they make fun of you because you are tired all the time(allergies) and call you stupid because you had long vertical facial development because of said allergies. PROBLEMS YOU INHERITED FROM THEM!

You must realize that there are actually people out there like me who SUFFER exponentially more than those merely with acne scars, which seems to be your main problem. This problem merely adds to my many list of things I suffer from. I have been traumatized so badly by not only my dad and peers, but also especially by girls that I became really good friends with over the years. I'm positive that you can't even begin to imagine the horrors I've seen in my life.

And yes, I understand all too well what it's like to be exiled and isolated. I will stop interrupting your crusade against the singular problem known as acne scarring.

Ultimately people don't want others around them who suffer really badly. We exile them from our lives and try to forget the problems exist.

Wait, what? I cannot understand? Sorry, but you think acne scars are just my problem lolz. Pretty funny cause i suffer something permanent thats gonna be with me for the rest of my life. I dont feel like mentioning it especially in a public forum.

Acne scarring, is just one of my problems. Parent problems? Pshhhh,,, im soo over that part of my life. Ive got family problems as well but i dont think it was neccessary for me to say it here in a topic CONCeRNING ACNE SCARS. Allergies? Pshhh, lucky you. I got sclerosis.

You know what, i cant even mention the problems i have here. I got bigger ones that make family problems, acne scars, sclerosis look like an ant.

It's kinda rude that you just assume i live a life where my only singular problem is acne scarring.

Yes i live with worse problems but what i have that you dont, is my will and strength. Not all people are equally strong so i understand.

Anyway Eagerminer and cycloverid,

I want to share to you what i learned in life.

For me I do not require good looks to be happy

I do not require a girlfriend to be happy.

I do not require people to compliment me to be happy.

I do not care about people who dont care about me.

I do not require to be happy to live BUT i will live to be happy.

I found friends, both GIRLS and GUYS, beautiful and handsome, ugly and deformed. I treasure these friends and i make sure to let them feel i care about them. And in return, i feel theirs.

That is all.