Well said. You seem to have acquired the HIGHLY undervalued and rare characteristic of intelligence that most of this sad race lacks. I hope you can find a use for it to acquire some small amount of happiness.

Thanks, I do consider myself reasonably intelligent despite my lack of social experience. Despite that, I am still able to look at life critically and see it for what it is. I am actually not that unhappy, since I didn't really do the whole "looking for a gf and trying to be social" phase ever. I saw some escorts after turning 22 this year and enjoyed it. I am just trying to re-engage my career and focus on money and doing whatever I want in life, I am very used to being isolated since my earliest days so I guess I have that advantage. Most men would go crazy having lived my life.

I have been to tons of plastic surgery consults (trying to go from average to model tier with ridiculous things like facial implants) and realized how much bs this industry really is. Most pictures are altered and faked, and these surgeons don't really even know much about aesthetics themselves, they are just trained in a list of procedures and like conmen, they pitch you on them. It's total bs and to not see through the scam is pitiful. I only recommend cosmetic procedures if your flaw is significant (acne scars), because small improvement trumps absolutely nothing. However steer clear of the cosmetic industry and for sure psychologists. The only way to improve your life is to improve your finances and get into good physical shape (you can't change your features but you can at least be fit and gaunt). Don't let these idiots fool us that some for-profit pills are going to make it all better. If that were true you wouldn't have all the carnage in the world that we see every day.

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Well said. You seem to have acquired the HIGHLY undervalued and rare characteristic of intelligence that most of this sad race lacks. I hope you can find a use for it to acquire some small amount of happiness.

Thanks, I do consider myself reasonably intelligent despite my lack of social experience. Despite that, I am still able to look at life critically and see it for what it is. I am actually not that unhappy, since I didn't really do the whole "looking for a gf and trying to be social" phase ever. I saw some escorts after turning 22 this year and enjoyed it. I am just trying to re-engage my career and focus on money and doing whatever I want in life, I am very used to being isolated since my earliest days so I guess I have that advantage. Most men would go crazy having lived my life.

I have been to tons of plastic surgery consults (trying to go from average to model tier with ridiculous things like facial implants) and realized how much bs this industry really is. Most pictures are altered and faked, and these surgeons don't really even know much about aesthetics themselves, they are just trained in a list of procedures and like conmen, they pitch you on them. It's total bs and to not see through the scam is pitiful. I only recommend cosmetic procedures if your flaw is significant (acne scars), because small improvement trumps absolutely nothing. However steer clear of the cosmetic industry and for sure psychologists. The only way to improve your life is to improve your finances and get into good physical shape (you can't change your features but you can at least be fit and gaunt). Don't let these idiots fool us that some for-profit pills are going to make it all better. If that were true you wouldn't have all the carnage in the world that we see every day.

Well said. You seem to have acquired the HIGHLY undervalued and rare characteristic of intelligence that most of this sad race lacks. I hope you can find a use for it to acquire some small amount of happiness.

Thanks, I do consider myself reasonably intelligent despite my lack of social experience. Despite that, I am still able to look at life critically and see it for what it is. I am actually not that unhappy, since I didn't really do the whole "looking for a gf and trying to be social" phase ever. I saw some escorts after turning 22 this year and enjoyed it. I am just trying to re-engage my career and focus on money and doing whatever I want in life, I am very used to being isolated since my earliest days so I guess I have that advantage. Most men would go crazy having lived my life.

I have been to tons of plastic surgery consults (trying to go from average to model tier with ridiculous things like facial implants) and realized how much bs this industry really is. Most pictures are altered and faked, and these surgeons don't really even know much about aesthetics themselves, they are just trained in a list of procedures and like conmen, they pitch you on them. It's total bs and to not see through the scam is pitiful. I only recommend cosmetic procedures if your flaw is significant (acne scars), because small improvement trumps absolutely nothing. However steer clear of the cosmetic industry and for sure psychologists. The only way to improve your life is to improve your finances and get into good physical shape (you can't change your features but you can at least be fit and gaunt). Don't let these idiots fool us that some for-profit pills are going to make it all better. If that were true you wouldn't have all the carnage in the world that we see every day.

Get off your pity party - you owe it to yourself. See a therapist if you need to.

My God, there is so much more to life than being good looking. Being average or ugly is not an advantage but it weeds out the people who aren't worth your time. Every single one of us will end up old and frail eventually - some of us will get horrible crippling, disfiguring diseases or get into accidents that will leave you hideous. The MOST important thing is how you treat others, your intelligence, humor, wit, etc. - as they say, beauty fades but dumb is forever. Isn't that what you would care about in a long term relationship? Extreme vanity is a massive turn off for almost everyone.

On another note, you will magnify your flaws no matter what they are. Nobody probably cares.

Yes, dumb is forever and I will always be a smart guy lucky for me at least my parent's families weren't full of stupid & unattractive people.

Yes, in a long term relationship, I only want a below average woman who is easy and fun to deal with. Unfortunately most women these days (even the obese ones) are chasing NFL stars and tall aryan hunks. It really is tough to find a woman who doesn't know everything about Brody Jenner's life or Justin Bieber. Women have become obsessed with looks these days and I find it a futile endeavour to weed them out to find one who isn't mentally crippled by the media. I might get married in the third world to a religious woman in the country I immigrated from, that's the only real hope I have of finding a woman who isn't obese and has no idea who brad pitt is and who hasn't been with 10 different guys by 25.

I'm sorry if this is offensive, but your adherence to both psychology and implicitly religion (with your reference to capitalized 'God') do not make you out to be very intelligent. And "Nobody probably cares" is almost exactly right, except that I care. I dreamt of having a girlfriend all of my life, and I did as my mom told me to do - to listen to girls and be courteous and kind and appreciate them. And it didn't work, time and time again. It was always just a dream for me. I have suffered far far far FAR beyond what you can possibly understand. I have seen and experienced pain that you would think is only possible in nightmares. This isn't a pity party, this is reality. Some of us are just born in such a way that we don't fit in with society at all. I don't have a single quality that is attractive to girls except that I was nice, and that seems to only get so far. You must understand that there are disfigurements and diseases that leave people unable to cope with society at all, WE AREN'T even given the opportunity to make mistakes to acquire these disfigurements. We were born with them.

First and foremost, I'm an atheist - but why on earth does that matter? Just because people are religious doesn't mean they're stupid. It's an expression (I'm not going to be one of those people that starts saying "Oh my Darwin!").

By "nobody probably cares" I meant nobody notices your flaws, and if they do they don't care about them because they are too busy worrying about their own insecurities/problems. There comes a point where this does turn into a pity party - sorry if that's harsh, but I feel it needs to be said. It's not the end of the world and there are millions of people with disfigurements who didn't ask to get them either. These are the cards you were dealt - shouldn't you try to play them the best you can?

I do apologize if I came across as insensitive/harsh. These posts pop up way too much though.

Wow, some people here. Seriously, kill your mother??? You think your mother wanted to have that gene? It was passed unto her. So really, if there is anyone to blame, it's your whole line of ancestry tracing back to millions or thousands of years ago for not developing or evolving.

Anyways, i will apply some logic to what some people are saying. If you think males who are "ugly" will never have someone to love him. Then EVERY PERsON IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY would have GOOD GENES. Because the one with bad genes will die while the good genes will spread. Makes sense? I am applying the theory of natural selection.

Plus, i saw some people's pictures here, and to be honest your scars is noticable but not to the point of disfigurement or disgusting. I mean, i have scars, and most of the time, worse than some people here, BUT i have very good friends. Sure ive experienced the a-holes but i've cut them out of my life and considered them non exsisting. Dont get me wrong, i have my bad days, but i will fight.

And to the OP, you might not have any improvements but you havent told us details about you. What's your age, healing ability, skin type, how aggresive your treatments were, intervals of treatments, were you consistent, how's your diet, your nutrition, etc.

So much factors to consider. You say that it is impossible to have major improvement but what i read and see in posts are opposite.

Really, some people here have a distorted view to the point that it's not only them that's affected but other people as well.

I dont really mind if you want to continue your life living in a hell created by yourself but please do not bring it to our world.

There's lots of rage and frustration that you cannot understand unless you've really been in a really bad spot. I've been there. What about when you meet this parent who cursed you so badly for the first time in your life at 14 years old and they make fun of you because you are tired all the time(allergies) and call you stupid because you had long vertical facial development because of said allergies. PROBLEMS YOU INHERITED FROM THEM!

You must realize that there are actually people out there like me who SUFFER exponentially more than those merely with acne scars, which seems to be your main problem. This problem merely adds to my many list of things I suffer from. I have been traumatized so badly by not only my dad and peers, but also especially by girls that I became really good friends with over the years. I'm positive that you can't even begin to imagine the horrors I've seen in my life.

And yes, I understand all too well what it's like to be exiled and isolated. I will stop interrupting your crusade against the singular problem known as acne scarring.

Ultimately people don't want others around them who suffer really badly. We exile them from our lives and try to forget the problems exist.

Wait, what? I cannot understand? Sorry, but you think acne scars are just my problem lolz. Pretty funny cause i suffer something permanent thats gonna be with me for the rest of my life. I dont feel like mentioning it especially in a public forum.

Acne scarring, is just one of my problems. Parent problems? Pshhhh,,, im soo over that part of my life. Ive got family problems as well but i dont think it was neccessary for me to say it here in a topic CONCeRNING ACNE SCARS. Allergies? Pshhh, lucky you. I got sclerosis.

You know what, i cant even mention the problems i have here. I got bigger ones that make family problems, acne scars, sclerosis look like an ant.

It's kinda rude that you just assume i live a life where my only singular problem is acne scarring.

Yes i live with worse problems but what i have that you dont, is my will and strength. Not all people are equally strong so i understand.

Anyway Eagerminer and cycloverid,

I want to share to you what i learned in life.

For me I do not require good looks to be happy

I do not require a girlfriend to be happy.

I do not require people to compliment me to be happy.

I do not care about people who dont care about me.

I do not require to be happy to live BUT i will live to be happy.

I found friends, both GIRLS and GUYS, beautiful and handsome, ugly and deformed. I treasure these friends and i make sure to let them feel i care about them. And in return, i feel theirs.

That is all.

I did that for a while. You know what happens? You start to love the girls that you hang around with for years and years. And then when that happens several times and each time it's the same story and they come up with excuses as to why they can't reciprocate, then it drains you dry. It is such an empty feeling.

You seem naive. You need to live and learn more before you start to lecture me about life.

Wow, some people here. Seriously, kill your mother??? You think your mother wanted to have that gene? It was passed unto her. So really, if there is anyone to blame, it's your whole line of ancestry tracing back to millions or thousands of years ago for not developing or evolving.

Anyways, i will apply some logic to what some people are saying. If you think males who are "ugly" will never have someone to love him. Then EVERY PERsON IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY would have GOOD GENES. Because the one with bad genes will die while the good genes will spread. Makes sense? I am applying the theory of natural selection.

Plus, i saw some people's pictures here, and to be honest your scars is noticable but not to the point of disfigurement or disgusting. I mean, i have scars, and most of the time, worse than some people here, BUT i have very good friends. Sure ive experienced the a-holes but i've cut them out of my life and considered them non exsisting. Dont get me wrong, i have my bad days, but i will fight.

And to the OP, you might not have any improvements but you havent told us details about you. What's your age, healing ability, skin type, how aggresive your treatments were, intervals of treatments, were you consistent, how's your diet, your nutrition, etc.

So much factors to consider. You say that it is impossible to have major improvement but what i read and see in posts are opposite.

Really, some people here have a distorted view to the point that it's not only them that's affected but other people as well.

I dont really mind if you want to continue your life living in a hell created by yourself but please do not bring it to our world.

There's lots of rage and frustration that you cannot understand unless you've really been in a really bad spot. I've been there. What about when you meet this parent who cursed you so badly for the first time in your life at 14 years old and they make fun of you because you are tired all the time(allergies) and call you stupid because you had long vertical facial development because of said allergies. PROBLEMS YOU INHERITED FROM THEM!

You must realize that there are actually people out there like me who SUFFER exponentially more than those merely with acne scars, which seems to be your main problem. This problem merely adds to my many list of things I suffer from. I have been traumatized so badly by not only my dad and peers, but also especially by girls that I became really good friends with over the years. I'm positive that you can't even begin to imagine the horrors I've seen in my life.

And yes, I understand all too well what it's like to be exiled and isolated. I will stop interrupting your crusade against the singular problem known as acne scarring.

Ultimately people don't want others around them who suffer really badly. We exile them from our lives and try to forget the problems exist.

Wait, what? I cannot understand? Sorry, but you think acne scars are just my problem lolz. Pretty funny cause i suffer something permanent thats gonna be with me for the rest of my life. I dont feel like mentioning it especially in a public forum.

Acne scarring, is just one of my problems. Parent problems? Pshhhh,,, im soo over that part of my life. Ive got family problems as well but i dont think it was neccessary for me to say it here in a topic CONCeRNING ACNE SCARS. Allergies? Pshhh, lucky you. I got sclerosis.

You know what, i cant even mention the problems i have here. I got bigger ones that make family problems, acne scars, sclerosis look like an ant.

It's kinda rude that you just assume i live a life where my only singular problem is acne scarring.

Yes i live with worse problems but what i have that you dont, is my will and strength. Not all people are equally strong so i understand.

Anyway Eagerminer and cycloverid,

I want to share to you what i learned in life.

For me I do not require good looks to be happy

I do not require a girlfriend to be happy.

I do not require people to compliment me to be happy.

I do not care about people who dont care about me.

I do not require to be happy to live BUT i will live to be happy.

I found friends, both GIRLS and GUYS, beautiful and handsome, ugly and deformed. I treasure these friends and i make sure to let them feel i care about them. And in return, i feel theirs.

That is all.

You're acting like I am dying to start dating tall blonde models and be a movie star. No, I just want a girl who isn't extremely obese and accepts me for who I am, but that is a rarity in the facebook era where every girl wants Brody Jenner even as a 40 year old single mother.

I don't buy that, being happy without a healthy sex life and relationship with a woman isn't happiness or okay in any way, it is just denial of reality. Even in third world countries with traditional marriages, it is considered unhealthy for a 20+ man to be celibate and not with a woman. Let alone the westernized world where everything on TV is sex sex sex.

My friend, not everyone share the views you have. You'll be suprised at how diversed people's minds and beliefs are. But anyways, if you want to believe what you currently believe, i do not plan to stop you.

If you want a girlfriend, ok goodluck.

If you want sex to be happy, ok good luck.

Wow, some people here. Seriously, kill your mother??? You think your mother wanted to have that gene? It was passed unto her. So really, if there is anyone to blame, it's your whole line of ancestry tracing back to millions or thousands of years ago for not developing or evolving.

Anyways, i will apply some logic to what some people are saying. If you think males who are "ugly" will never have someone to love him. Then EVERY PERsON IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY would have GOOD GENES. Because the one with bad genes will die while the good genes will spread. Makes sense? I am applying the theory of natural selection.

Plus, i saw some people's pictures here, and to be honest your scars is noticable but not to the point of disfigurement or disgusting. I mean, i have scars, and most of the time, worse than some people here, BUT i have very good friends. Sure ive experienced the a-holes but i've cut them out of my life and considered them non exsisting. Dont get me wrong, i have my bad days, but i will fight.

And to the OP, you might not have any improvements but you havent told us details about you. What's your age, healing ability, skin type, how aggresive your treatments were, intervals of treatments, were you consistent, how's your diet, your nutrition, etc.

So much factors to consider. You say that it is impossible to have major improvement but what i read and see in posts are opposite.

Really, some people here have a distorted view to the point that it's not only them that's affected but other people as well.

I dont really mind if you want to continue your life living in a hell created by yourself but please do not bring it to our world.

There's lots of rage and frustration that you cannot understand unless you've really been in a really bad spot. I've been there. What about when you meet this parent who cursed you so badly for the first time in your life at 14 years old and they make fun of you because you are tired all the time(allergies) and call you stupid because you had long vertical facial development because of said allergies. PROBLEMS YOU INHERITED FROM THEM!

You must realize that there are actually people out there like me who SUFFER exponentially more than those merely with acne scars, which seems to be your main problem. This problem merely adds to my many list of things I suffer from. I have been traumatized so badly by not only my dad and peers, but also especially by girls that I became really good friends with over the years. I'm positive that you can't even begin to imagine the horrors I've seen in my life.

And yes, I understand all too well what it's like to be exiled and isolated. I will stop interrupting your crusade against the singular problem known as acne scarring.

Ultimately people don't want others around them who suffer really badly. We exile them from our lives and try to forget the problems exist.

Wait, what? I cannot understand? Sorry, but you think acne scars are just my problem lolz. Pretty funny cause i suffer something permanent thats gonna be with me for the rest of my life. I dont feel like mentioning it especially in a public forum.

Acne scarring, is just one of my problems. Parent problems? Pshhhh,,, im soo over that part of my life. Ive got family problems as well but i dont think it was neccessary for me to say it here in a topic CONCeRNING ACNE SCARS. Allergies? Pshhh, lucky you. I got sclerosis.

You know what, i cant even mention the problems i have here. I got bigger ones that make family problems, acne scars, sclerosis look like an ant.

It's kinda rude that you just assume i live a life where my only singular problem is acne scarring.

Yes i live with worse problems but what i have that you dont, is my will and strength. Not all people are equally strong so i understand.

Anyway Eagerminer and cycloverid,

I want to share to you what i learned in life.

For me I do not require good looks to be happy

I do not require a girlfriend to be happy.

I do not require people to compliment me to be happy.

I do not care about people who dont care about me.

I do not require to be happy to live BUT i will live to be happy.

I found friends, both GIRLS and GUYS, beautiful and handsome, ugly and deformed. I treasure these friends and i make sure to let them feel i care about them. And in return, i feel theirs.

That is all.

I did that for a while. You know what happens? You start to love the girls that you hang around with for years and years. And then when that happens several times and each time it's the same story and they come up with excuses as to why they can't reciprocate, then it drains you dry. It is such an empty feeling.

You seem naive. You need to live and learn more before you start to lecture me about life.

Lol, you're just like them. People who judge others. Anyways, i dont care if you want to stay believing what you believe. Goodluck.

Lolz, for your information. I didnt think i would even mention this, but there was a girl who confessed to me. Im not saying the results to you cause i dont think it is needed.

Whatever floats your boat, all i know is, im gonna live a happier life than you lolz.

I hung around girls that I thought were fun to hang around. I wasn't looking for looks. I never dated conventionally. I just made friends and had fun.

That said I don't fit in with most of society.

I have skin problems that are so severe that I can't wear most types of clothing. I can't wear long sleeve shirts unless they have a zipper, and only if it's really cold. I can only wear light t-shirts most days. I can't drink alcohol AT ALL. I can't get too warm without having a major flare-up in my face hands and feet that feels like a hot frying pan is pressing up against my skin and searing my flesh off.

I mostly avoid the sun. I am so faint and dizzy most days that I can barely stand up because of horrible allergies that doctors can't figure out.

So I can't do most activities that most people in society would consider normal. I stay up most of the night because it's nice and cold and sleep through the day.

That said I still managed to make really good friends with abnormal girls who i considered fun to hang around. But they were still just interested in normal, decent looking guys that had at least one or two strong qualities.

I have yet to find anyone with as severe problems as me. So in that way, all girls I have ever met have been "out of my league".

I will say it again, all of these cited examples of celebs with acne scars, or "ugly guys who have wives" aren't applicable to the average acne-scar sufferer.

These guys have a level of financial status that made them providers to women who are past their prime. I don't want to be some loser a washed up woman is with for money, I'd rather use attractive escort who will be much cheaper in the long run.

I want to be reasonably attractive to women my age who haven't had more than 20 guys already (maybe 2-3 is okay since I'm 23 now). That would be possible if I fixed my scars, but fixing them isn't really possible, only improvement+makeup. When the makeup comes off, she will leave for the blue-eyed stud down the street. Game over. I can't hide my scarring nor is there a foolproof method out there.

How incredibly insulting to these people and their relationships to automatically assume they're "only there for the money." Nevermind the fact that these people likely weren't born with their cash (aka it's not some unfair disadvantage)?

Why do you talk about obese women like they're leftover table scraps for "the uglies"? No woman will stay or be with a man who treats or talks to her like that (and they shouldn't). And "sluts" too? Slut shaming is a horrible thing. Read about it. A woman's value is not determined by how many people she's slept with.

And as far as makeup goes, don't you think women think that way too? So many women fear having their boyfriend see their naked face. If they leave you for that, they're not worth your time.

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I hung around girls that I thought were fun to hang around. I wasn't looking for looks. I never dated conventionally. I just made friends and had fun.

What exactly is wrong with your skin anyway? How is your hair? I've found that most guys (anyone who isn't handsome) are with girls that chose them, that's right, women showed interest in them to begin with, and things went from there. Women have shown interest in me, but they weren't the hot ones, mostly average and below, and I didn't know what to do back then. I doubt following women around will help, they have to come after you in some way or another.

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I will say it again, all of these cited examples of celebs with acne scars, or "ugly guys who have wives" aren't applicable to the average acne-scar sufferer.

These guys have a level of financial status that made them providers to women who are past their prime. I don't want to be some loser a washed up woman is with for money, I'd rather use attractive escort who will be much cheaper in the long run.

I want to be reasonably attractive to women my age who haven't had more than 20 guys already (maybe 2-3 is okay since I'm 23 now). That would be possible if I fixed my scars, but fixing them isn't really possible, only improvement+makeup. When the makeup comes off, she will leave for the blue-eyed stud down the street. Game over. I can't hide my scarring nor is there a foolproof method out there.

How incredibly insulting to these people and their relationships to automatically assume they're "only there for the money." Nevermind the fact that these people likely weren't born with their cash (aka it's not some unfair disadvantage)?

Why do you talk about obese women like they're leftover table scraps for "the uglies"? No woman will stay or be with a man who treats or talks to her like that (and they shouldn't). And "sluts" too? Slut shaming is a horrible thing. Read about it. A woman's value is not determined by how many people she's slept with.

And as far as makeup goes, don't you think women think that way too? So many women fear having their boyfriend see their naked face. If they leave you for that, they're not worth your time.

Yes, I look down on men who use money to become cuckold providers for women past their prime -- because they don't see the scam they are being victim to. It doesn't matter how the man got the money, infact it is even more pitiful when the man earned his life away to afford a washed up hag.

Because, most obese women are obese by choice, whereas someone truly unattractive isn't by choice. Obese women are lazy hogs who given this feminist environment, demand fit men. Obviously they are at the bottom of the barrel, just ask any man if he would date a woman vs the same woman + 150 lbs.

Yes women think that way, but most men are so desperate for ANY woman that they don't care. Only a hunk would look down on a woman for doing that, and the thing is women only do it to impress the hunk anyway.

 

You know I truly love these arguements, I've literally had it on many other forums and it always reaches a 100+ post thread before being locked and me banned. Well at least someone who gets it will take something positive out of it.

Deep down everyone knows I am right. And despite what it sounds like I am actually quite satisfied with my life, I don't expect much so I am not really disappointed. I will be happy with anything positive I can achieve, but I won't be a cuckold provider to a washed up pig. I respect myself too much.

I have never had a girl show physical interest in me in my entire life. The girls that I was friends with over the years liked my personality but the closest it came to physical interaction was the occasional hug.

I have very thin fine hair that is messy and horrible looking. My skin is full of rashes and redness everywhere over my entire body, especially my face that has keratosis bumps, horrible rosacea redness and acne scarring. I have deep dark circles under my eyes, worse than anyone I have ever seen, even on the internet - caused by years and years horrible allergies.

Yes, I look down on men who use money to become cuckold providers for women past their prime -- because they don't see the scam they are being victim to. It doesn't matter how the man got the money, infact it is even more pitiful when the man earned his life away to afford a washed up hag.

Because, most obese women are obese by choice, whereas someone truly unattractive isn't by choice. Obese women are lazy hogs who given this feminist environment, demand fit men. Obviously they are at the bottom of the barrel, just ask any man if he would date a woman vs the same woman + 150 lbs.

Yes women think that way, but most men are so desperate for ANY woman that they don't care. Only a hunk would look down on a woman for doing that, and the thing is women only do it to impress the hunk anyway.

 

You know I truly love these arguements, I've literally had it on many other forums and it always reaches a 100+ post thread before being locked and me banned. Well at least someone who gets it will take something positive out of it.

Deep down everyone knows I am right. And despite what it sounds like I am actually quite satisfied with my life, I don't expect much so I am not really disappointed. I will be happy with anything positive I can achieve, but I won't be a cuckold provider to a washed up pig. I respect myself too much.

Ever heard of bears? Don't search into that too much if you're not into guys. There is no "female interested in large men" equivalent because the porn industry is exclusively male-marketed though. That's not really on topic though. My point is: I don't care if you're old, young, fat, skinny, short, bald, whatever - there's somebody out there who's totally into that! You just need to find them.

Yes, I look down on men who use money to become cuckold providers for women past their prime -- because they don't see the scam they are being victim to. It doesn't matter how the man got the money, infact it is even more pitiful when the man earned his life away to afford a washed up hag.

Because, most obese women are obese by choice, whereas someone truly unattractive isn't by choice. Obese women are lazy hogs who given this feminist environment, demand fit men. Obviously they are at the bottom of the barrel, just ask any man if he would date a woman vs the same woman + 150 lbs.

Yes women think that way, but most men are so desperate for ANY woman that they don't care. Only a hunk would look down on a woman for doing that, and the thing is women only do it to impress the hunk anyway.

 

You know I truly love these arguements, I've literally had it on many other forums and it always reaches a 100+ post thread before being locked and me banned. Well at least someone who gets it will take something positive out of it.

Deep down everyone knows I am right. And despite what it sounds like I am actually quite satisfied with my life, I don't expect much so I am not really disappointed. I will be happy with anything positive I can achieve, but I won't be a cuckold provider to a washed up pig. I respect myself too much.

Your true colors are showing here. Not all women are obese due to laziness or choice - depression, eating disorders, medical issues, etc. come to mind. ALSO, some men are totally into bigger women otherwise there wouldn't be terms like "BBW" or "BBBW." And, like I said, these women aren't necessarily there "for the money" - do you believe all rich men's wives are just scam artists? That's really simplified thinking.

The amount of misogyny you're displaying is beyond appalling. Maybe that's why women aren't interested. You should try to show more compassion and be a genuinely nice person. As I said, my dad is not, was not rich and is not, was not good looking while my mom is gorgeous and loves him. It happens, but you're not going to listen no matter how many times people tell you...

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Yes, I look down on men who use money to become cuckold providers for women past their prime -- because they don't see the scam they are being victim to. It doesn't matter how the man got the money, infact it is even more pitiful when the man earned his life away to afford a washed up hag.

Because, most obese women are obese by choice, whereas someone truly unattractive isn't by choice. Obese women are lazy hogs who given this feminist environment, demand fit men. Obviously they are at the bottom of the barrel, just ask any man if he would date a woman vs the same woman + 150 lbs.

Yes women think that way, but most men are so desperate for ANY woman that they don't care. Only a hunk would look down on a woman for doing that, and the thing is women only do it to impress the hunk anyway.

 

You know I truly love these arguements, I've literally had it on many other forums and it always reaches a 100+ post thread before being locked and me banned. Well at least someone who gets it will take something positive out of it.

Deep down everyone knows I am right. And despite what it sounds like I am actually quite satisfied with my life, I don't expect much so I am not really disappointed. I will be happy with anything positive I can achieve, but I won't be a cuckold provider to a washed up pig. I respect myself too much.

Your true colors are showing here. Not all women are obese due to laziness or choice - depression, eating disorders, medical issues, etc. come to mind. ALSO, some men are totally into bigger women otherwise there wouldn't be terms like "BBW" or "BBBW." And, like I said, these women aren't necessarily there "for the money" - do you believe all rich men's wives are just scam artists? That's really simplified thinking.

The amount of misogyny you're displaying is beyond appalling. Maybe that's why women aren't interested. You should try to show more compassion and be a genuinely nice person. As I said, my dad is not, was not rich and is not, was not good looking while my mom is gorgeous and loves him. It happens, but you're not going to listen no matter how many times people tell you...

I am a stone cold skeptic and I know when I'm right, I'm right. There is no male equivalent of BBW, an obese hog of a man = odious filth to society. It is only acceptable in feminist culture for women to be obese. Ok, if women genuinely have issues with their health, I don't have anything against them, but the vast majority of obese people are just a victim of western eating habits. How come eastern europe and asian countries aren't full of obese women? The answer is obvious.

I hung around girls that I thought were fun to hang around. I wasn't looking for looks. I never dated conventionally. I just made friends and had fun.

What exactly is wrong with your skin anyway? How is your hair? I've found that most guys (anyone who isn't handsome) are with girls that chose them, that's right, women showed interest in them to begin with, and things went from there. Women have shown interest in me, but they weren't the hot ones, mostly average and below, and I didn't know what to do back then. I doubt following women around will help, they have to come after you in some way or another.

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I will say it again, all of these cited examples of celebs with acne scars, or "ugly guys who have wives" aren't applicable to the average acne-scar sufferer.

These guys have a level of financial status that made them providers to women who are past their prime. I don't want to be some loser a washed up woman is with for money, I'd rather use attractive escort who will be much cheaper in the long run.

I want to be reasonably attractive to women my age who haven't had more than 20 guys already (maybe 2-3 is okay since I'm 23 now). That would be possible if I fixed my scars, but fixing them isn't really possible, only improvement+makeup. When the makeup comes off, she will leave for the blue-eyed stud down the street. Game over. I can't hide my scarring nor is there a foolproof method out there.

How incredibly insulting to these people and their relationships to automatically assume they're "only there for the money." Nevermind the fact that these people likely weren't born with their cash (aka it's not some unfair disadvantage)?

Why do you talk about obese women like they're leftover table scraps for "the uglies"? No woman will stay or be with a man who treats or talks to her like that (and they shouldn't). And "sluts" too? Slut shaming is a horrible thing. Read about it. A woman's value is not determined by how many people she's slept with.

And as far as makeup goes, don't you think women think that way too? So many women fear having their boyfriend see their naked face. If they leave you for that, they're not worth your time.

Yes, I look down on men who use money to become cuckold providers for women past their prime -- because they don't see the scam they are being victim to. It doesn't matter how the man got the money, infact it is even more pitiful when the man earned his life away to afford a washed up hag.

Because, most obese women are obese by choice, whereas someone truly unattractive isn't by choice. Obese women are lazy hogs who given this feminist environment, demand fit men. Obviously they are at the bottom of the barrel, just ask any man if he would date a woman vs the same woman + 150 lbs.

Yes women think that way, but most men are so desperate for ANY woman that they don't care. Only a hunk would look down on a woman for doing that, and the thing is women only do it to impress the hunk anyway.

 

You know I truly love these arguements, I've literally had it on many other forums and it always reaches a 100+ post thread before being locked and me banned. Well at least someone who gets it will take something positive out of it.

Deep down everyone knows I am right. And despite what it sounds like I am actually quite satisfied with my life, I don't expect much so I am not really disappointed. I will be happy with anything positive I can achieve, but I won't be a cuckold provider to a washed up pig. I respect myself too much.

I have never had a girl show physical interest in me in my entire life. The girls that I was friends with over the years liked my personality but the closest it came to physical interaction was the occasional hug.

I have very thin fine hair that is messy and horrible looking. My skin is full of rashes and redness everywhere over my entire body, especially my face that has keratosis bumps, horrible rosacea redness and acne scarring. I have deep dark circles under my eyes, worse than anyone I have ever seen, even on the internet - caused by years and years horrible allergies.

That sounds like a combination I've never heard of or even seen. Is it all over the face, or in isolated areas? Me I have a 3cm by 3cm patch on my left cheekbone area and perhaps 1cm by 1cm on each temple of scars that are mostly flat but still there. I also have redness after shaving.

My entire cheeks on both sides are red and with lots of raised red scaly bumps all over them which I am told is keratosis pilaris. I still get acne bumps on my forehead and chin almost every day. I have had acne on and off for the last 12 or so years.

I have red keratosis bumps ALL over the back of my arms and on my forearms, ALL over my stomach and ALL over my back. They are also ALL over my legs, front back and top and bottom.

I am a stone cold skeptic and I know when I'm right, I'm right. There is no male equivalent of BBW, an obese hog of a man = odious filth to society. It is only acceptable in feminist culture for women to be obese. Ok, if women genuinely have issues with their health, I don't have anything against them, but the vast majority of obese people are just a victim of western eating habits. How come eastern europe and asian countries aren't full of obese women? The answer is obvious.

Ever heard of bears? Don't search into that too much if you're not into guys. There is no "female interested in large men" equivalent because the porn industry is exclusively male-marketed though. That's not really on topic though. My point is: I don't care if you're old, young, fat, skinny, short, bald, whatever - there's somebody out there who's totally into that!

Yes, those niches apply if you are a woman because men are desperate for sex, whereas women are desperate for landing the hunk (or landing the big provider while banging a hunk on the side). I would date a 60 year old woman if I could. But would a 23 year old woman date a 60 year old man if money isn't involved?

Women have it easy, just listen to this for a better idea:

Men and women have different struggles - you can't just say women have it easy. If you are truly willing to date just about *anyone*, go to a dating site and start messaging every woman. I guarantee you'll find someone. Guarantee. You have to put yourself out there before discounting any chance of dating. But also don't hate a woman or call her a bitch/slut for not being attracted to you - that's perfectly fine for her to do. I can't believe how off topic this has gotten and I'm sorry if I am a big contributor to that.

Lol jfilgree.

Just let them be.

"A mind that is closed will not let in"

They're not asking for help anyways.

What's important is that you arent as judgemental and are open minded. Im glad there's some people who see different view points rather than one freaking view.

Lol jfilgree.

Just let them be.

"A mind that is closed will not let in"

They're not asking for help anyways.

What's important is that you arent as judgemental and are open minded. Im glad there's some people who see different view points rather than one freaking view.

You're right I suppose. There's not much use in saying anything else because it would not help. Misery loves company. I'm done.

I am a stone cold skeptic and I know when I'm right, I'm right. There is no male equivalent of BBW, an obese hog of a man = odious filth to society. It is only acceptable in feminist culture for women to be obese. Ok, if women genuinely have issues with their health, I don't have anything against them, but the vast majority of obese people are just a victim of western eating habits. How come eastern europe and asian countries aren't full of obese women? The answer is obvious.

Ever heard of bears? Don't search into that too much if you're not into guys. There is no "female interested in large men" equivalent because the porn industry is exclusively male-marketed though. That's not really on topic though. My point is: I don't care if you're old, young, fat, skinny, short, bald, whatever - there's somebody out there who's totally into that!

Yes, those niches apply if you are a woman because men are desperate for sex, whereas women are desperate for landing the hunk (or landing the big provider while banging a hunk on the side). I would date a 60 year old woman if I could. But would a 23 year old woman date a 60 year old man if money isn't involved?

Women have it easy, just listen to this for a better idea:

Men and women have different struggles - you can't just say women have it easy. If you are truly willing to date just about *anyone*, go to a dating site and start messaging every woman. I guarantee you'll find someone. Guarantee. You have to put yourself out there before discounting any chance of dating. But also don't hate a woman or call her a bitch/slut for not being attracted to you - that's perfectly fine for her to do. I can't believe how off topic this has gotten and I'm sorry if I am a big contributor to that.

Yeah, it's ok for women to go after hunks because they had good genes and I didn't. I should be so happy.

I am willing to date almost any women as long as they aren't going to trap me financially or legally. I have tried online dating (with many fake and real profiles) and found that it is futile for someone who isnt very good looking. I will try real life methods, after I get a job/place and more treatments.

Also, you aren't going off topic. Every topic and this entire forum and everyone on it is thinking of what I am discussing right now, whether they admit it or not. This is the only topic that matters to 99% of people, the reason people even wake up in the morning.

>My entire cheeks on both sides are red and with lots of raised red scaly bumps all over them which I am told is keratosis pilaris. I still get acne bumps on my forehead and chin almost every day. I have had acne on and off for the last 12 or so years.

I have red keratosis bumps ALL over the back of my arms and on my forearms, ALL over my stomach and ALL over my back. They are also ALL over my legs, front back and top and bottom.

Have you had any success with treatments, what about accutane? I also had some acne on the back of my shoulders but honestly I couldn't care less, the face is infinitely more important than any of those other areas. I have tons of stretch marks (becoming obese from depression and losing all the weight again) that I apply bio oil to daliy but it's all about my face that I am really serious about.

Dermatologists have never recommended accutane. Only tetracycline and the other variants and then acne lotions and such. I have had minor temporary relief but then it comes back.

Yes, dumb is forever and I will always be a smart guy lucky for me at least my parent's families weren't full of stupid & unattractive people.

Yes, in a long term relationship, I only want a below average woman who is easy and fun to deal with. Unfortunately most women these days (even the obese ones) are chasing NFL stars and tall aryan hunks. It really is tough to find a woman who doesn't know everything about Brody Jenner's life or Justin Bieber. Women have become obsessed with looks these days and I find it a futile endeavour to weed them out to find one who isn't mentally crippled by the media. I might get married in the third world to a religious woman in the country I immigrated from, that's the only real hope I have of finding a woman who isn't obese and has no idea who brad pitt is and who hasn't been with 10 different guys by 25.

Oh please. Do you even realize how much you underestimate, objectify and generalise women?! You obviously don't interact with people much if those are your expectations of what all women are like. There are dumb shallow individuals in both genders, FYI.

STEP AWAY FROM THE QUOTE BUTTON!!!

^ Hahahaha my thoughts exactly...

EagerMiner, I have personal life examples for you as well

My uncle had very severe acne and scars and married my aunt who is very beautiful.He was also poor , before you start talking about money.

My cousin , who is an attractive girl married a wonderful man who got shot in the face in war before meeting her. Again, he wasn't rich.

Jfiligree previously reported a case along the lines of the ones mentioned above , but you chose to ignore it.

What do you have to say about these stories? They seem to undermine your theory how women are only interested in money and looks.

Some people in here alarmingly remind me of Nazis.. Of course all of us would prefer to be healthy. But let's just say that a person with acne 10000 years ago wouldn't have trouble escaping from a bear -surviving, the most important thing those days- as soon as he/she had the strength and/or the mind to do so. That was what mattered so these genes made it to our days.. these and many others, causing worse conditions. And i can't understand why people with "bad" genetics should live in a ghetto or don't have children-you don't even know if they will inherit the condition. I saw once a video about someone with no arms and legs.. and he said that he prefered living that way than not being born at all. I admire his strength and wish we had it..

So people with severe acne should not reproduce but that doesn't stop here, it can't.. we continue with people with autoimmune diseases.. people with mental illness.. people with inherited anaemias, as my biology professor suggested once..people with cancer at young age perhaps.. And the list goes and goes and goes.. Now that i think of it, Stephen Hawking shouldn't have children.. perhaps his parents had some family history and he shouldn't be born at all.. would this benefit humanity? Did this change his career and personal life? Just one of the many, famous and not examples..

I don't want my children to suffer the same conditions i do.. i don't think i 'll ever have children due to other personal causes and choices. Perhaps i am too young and i 'll change my mind later in life.. but blaming people who live despite having a condition..

My first wife was amazing and took over a room when she walked in, and she married me twice. I am not rich and I don't look like George Clooney. I date girls who are much too young for me, but that just seems to be the way things work out. I was at a bar with a friend from work who always kidded me about being old. The sexiest girl I have ever dated walked by, then stopped and said she liked the way I was laughing and having a good time, and asked for my number. We dated for a year and even lived together. She is in Florida and still calls me all the time. My friend from work now asks me for advice.

If I can do this after the acne scars I had, it is time for some of you to get off your "PITY POT".

"Whether you think you can or whether you think you can't, you're right."

-- Henry Ford

Finally some sensible and logical people here....