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Okay, Lady, you know, that is exactly, what I had in my mind, and what makes your previous posts, in particular the way the pics are made, suspicious to me
i.e ...people wont argue over the 'before' being bad lighting and the 'after' being good lighting as they did in ernesto's thread
okay. I'm gonna keep that picture ......... but it coooould be fabricated. Lady holding up white blank paper, so if in danger loosing his cover, Ahmed can photoshop the "proof".
That bet you lost. - You get the apology, and it will come from the heart, when I see the 'after' pictures, and there's nothing suspicious about them.
oh my god!! :rolleyes:
I'm still labelling them. I dont care enough about your paranoia to change my thorough documentation .
You really don't feel like a fool?
Unbelievable!!
That bet you lost. - You get the apology, and it will come from the heart, when I see the 'after' pictures, and there's nothing suspicious about them.oh my god!! :rolleyes:
I'm still labelling them. I dont care enough about your paranoia to change my thorough documentation .
You really don't feel like a fool?
Unbelievable!!
Frankly, I'm not even going to discourage any of this --it's exciting!
In this case this conspiracy talking is really ridiculous.
Why should she be that doctor ? She even mentioned other doctors where you can have this treatment done in an other thread.
By now many doctors offer this treatment. I could also tell you one in germany.
I don't see how her posts should be advertising in any way.
you really dont get it do you?
If i was faking this or doing it as an advert, i wouldnt have posted the 'before' pics in flattering light
. i would have showed the worst light only, and then posted the 'afters' in the flattering light
if i wanted to make false claims, i could have done it all just with the good and bad before pics!
You are beyond paranoid dagobert!
If i wasnt so tough i'd be leaving this board rather than leaving myself open to ridicule and accusations, but for the good of other people interested in the treatment, I'm here and I'm staying and I WILL be posting my results be they significant or minimal.
I've never shown anyone my scar before. NOT IN 15 YEARS apart from various doctors and my husband. Not even my own mother knows about it. if you DARE try to rip me apart after this treatment, which is my desparate grasping at ANYTHING that might help, trust me you will be even more of an a$$hole than you've shown yourself to be so far.
Frankly, I'm not even going to discourage any of this --it's exciting!what is? The treatment or the conspiracy drama?!!
BOTH!!! But I really hope you're doing well(I dont believe it's a conspiracy) --but hey--all in good fun!
By the way, I'm not trying to make light of your issue GBL, I just woke up and read the flurry of posts and found the whole idea pretty amusing. You know, I'm banking that you WILL have a significant improvement in your scars. Maybe that's self-interested wishful thinking. But I do think its possible!
Im here to back up gbl! dagobert stop making these fake accusations. wtf is ur prob? r u jelous she got the procedure done and u havent? leave her alone she is kind enough to document her progress and here u are trying to sabatage it by making false accusations. Give the lady a break and stop acting like a child!!!!!!!!!!!
Frankly, I'm not even going to discourage any of this --it's exciting!what is? The treatment or the conspiracy drama?!!
BOTH!!! But I really hope you're doing well(I dont believe it's a conspiracy) --but hey--all in good fun!
By the way, I'm not trying to make light of your issue GBL, I just woke up and read the flurry of posts and found the whole idea pretty amusing. You know, I'm banking that you WILL have a significant improvement in your scars. Maybe that's self-interested wishful thinking. But I do think its possible!
hey its ok, i've had a chuckle over the craziness of it as well, but its started to pee me off as i dont want it to detract from the real issues - i.e trialling the treatment
I think dagobert will only be happy if i get sh!t results and therefore 'prove' it doesnt work....sad...
oh god "Hopefully, one day, there will be a 7 day medication to get rid of acne, cysts, and scars. But to late for most of us - youth is almost gone " --that's depressing --thanks a lot Dagobert! : ))
Come one, I need to cheer up --tell me there's something just on the horizon that will give me smooth youthful skin again --soon! 
Until a very few yearsago, laser ablative resurfacing of the whole face was the
method of choice, with strong debate as to which of
the two most commonly used lasers, the CO2 and the
erbium-dosed yttrium aluminium garnet (Er:YAG), is
the best resurfacing laser. Reports have also appeared
on a combination of these laser modalities in the one
system. The aim of the process was to ablate the old
epidermis off the dermis as cleanly as possible,
deliberately causing a zone of residual thermal damage
(RTD) in the dermis extending down into the upperto
mid reticular dermis. This RTD zone was deemed
essential to kick-start the wound healing process,
including angiogenesis and collagenesis, followed by
tissue remodelling, to produce a tight, well oriented
superficial dermis under a new, fresh young
epidermis. Results with this approach were excellent,
even in very severely aged skin, but the side effects
were severe, including oedema, crusting, discomfort
and prolonged erythema during a wound healing
process that could last as long as six months. This
meant downtime for patients before they could return
to full social and work routines and which for many
was unacceptable.
( http://www.touchbriefings.com/pdf/2268/trelles.pdf, Mario A. Trelles Medical Director, Vilafortuny Medical Institute, Cambrils, Spain)
I know, this is about skin rejuvenation, but by totally removing the epidermis, any (!!!) existing scar will be removed with it, right?! (see bold underlined text) At least, this is the method "my" doctor is referring to. The downtime is 6 months - so, no question, this is surgery, not just some laser treatment. Very risky also - everbody says that, and that's also the reason, why they refuse to do this treatment on me (!). But I give a s...; gonna find someone for sure. I would even accept some russian butcher-like doctor.
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Oh, and in case somebody is complaining because of the topic ... stem cells are involved, but they don't have to be applied, they'd stream out of the dermis
(...)deliberately causing a zone of residual thermal damage(RTD) in the dermis extending down into the upperto
mid reticular dermis. This RTD zone was deemed
essential to kick-start the wound healing process,
including angiogenesis and collagenesis, followed by
tissue remodelling,(...)
A combination of the laser surgery (see last post) with A. Baader's ( http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Stem-Cells-Acne-Scar-Rep-t222851.html&st=1300 ) treatment and it will probably heal faster with less side effects.
"but by totally removing the epidermis, any (!!!) existing scar will be removed with it, right?!"
Absolutely not!!! Removing the epidermis alone usually doesn't do anything at all for scaring. Scaring goes through all (three) skin layers. CO2 and erbium lasers are old and largely useless methods. Look into Fraxel instead, if you're hell bent on using lasers.
It's funny how you guys are ignoring facts, studies ... so science iin general.
deliberately causing a zone of residual thermal damage(RTD) in the dermis extending down into the upperto
mid reticular dermis. This RTD zone was deemed
essential to akick-starta the wound healing process,
including angiogenesis and collagenesis, followed by
tissue remodelling, to produce a tight, well oriented
superficial dermis under a new, fresh ayounga
epidermis. Results with this approach were excellent,