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Well I can't be bothered with this anymore, I've cut this and the hibiscrub and Im working on healing myself from the inside. My skin is looking good anyways and Im trying not to piss it off with using anything more than I have to, I started this vit a to help with oil and I think if after 5 weeks it has done absolutely nothing for this then it's time to pack it in (especialy since retin a never worked for me and that was a stronger version of this).
Well I can't be bothered with this anymore, I've cut this and the hibiscrub and Im working on healing myself from the inside. My skin is looking good anyways and Im trying not to piss it off with using anything more than I have to, I started this vit a to help with oil and I think if after 5 weeks it has done absolutely nothing for this then it's time to pack it in (especialy since retin a never worked for me and that was a stronger version of this).
Heres what vitamincure.com wrote me about its comparision to retin-a:
We soon mean to address this question on the website:
Retinyl is the natural form; it's derivatives are retinols. Retinols like
Accutane and RetinA are made water soluble to enter the bloodstream and for
non-greasy gels, respectively. However, retinols ignore the basic fact of
chemistry that like dissolves like, thus RetinA never penetrates to oil
glands but just peels away surface layers and causes horrible redness.
Retinyl Palmitate is the best performer for skin absorption, and it has been
made better by our blend of oils. Together they go deep enough to
finally stop the oil.
Update: Well, its the start of week 11 for me. I've pretty much given up on looking at my skin to see if theres any results. It seems theres no progress on oil. If theres hot weather im going to be oily, simple as that. But since ive got this far im not going to give up, just keep on applying it and not think about it.
On the upside, acne has been better than in recent years. also, i get less shaving rashes and my skin is smooth without having to use a moisturiser. next week im going to reach the 3 month mark - unless something happens overnight, ill probably be waiting for a while longer before the oil goes.
I stopped using panoxyl at night, now I use it in the morning, if at all. I wonder maybe this thing simply just doesnt work for some people? Is there anyone here who had to wait longer than me to see results? Please post, i need some hope!
Heres what vitamincure.com wrote me about its comparision to retin-a:
We soon mean to address this question on the website:
Retinyl is the natural form; it's derivatives are retinols. Retinols like
Accutane and RetinA are made water soluble to enter the bloodstream and for
non-greasy gels, respectively. However, retinols ignore the basic fact of
chemistry that like dissolves like, thus RetinA never penetrates to oil
glands but just peels away surface layers and causes horrible redness.
Retinyl Palmitate is the best performer for skin absorption, and it has been
made better by our blend of oils. Together they go deep enough to
finally stop the oil.
Guys, VITAMINCURE.COM wrote me some info on the topical a. Here it is:
"Here's some background:
My boss had his Ph.D in chemistry and worked in the pharmaceuticals for ten years. Currently, he owns a semiconductor equipment supply company. When his nephew got a bad case of acne three years ago, instead of going on Accutane, he synthesized several Vitamin A analogs and tested them mixed with various oils vehicles. Together they found retinyl palmitate with olive and sunflower oil worked best to stop the oil. Clove oil was later added as disinfectant and to discourage ingestion. A business major, his nephew was keen on marketing the product so he recruited six fellow students at the University of Texas willing to test (plus they had free health insurance and they didn't need to pay for blood tests).
All had cystic acne and either wanted to or would have gone on Accutane as no other choice. Two had been on Accutane already and were helpful to encourage the others through the purging period of the first month. The acne purging can be alarming for some at first, but this is evidence it's working to extricate the scars, and by the time one finishes the first bottle, purging will have subsides and smoother skin evident. Only one dropped out by the end.
Side effects were our greatest concerns and the worst reaction is dry lips. After the first 12 weeks, the scars were generally purged but their may be a few acute periods after that depending on severity. Within six months, even the worst case was substantially improved, and by year's most looked as if they'd never had a pimple. Four still use it for maintenance, not everyday. The oil should diminish at first application, but glands will take time to shrink. However, as some oil is always needed to lubricate the skin, and eventually the face will become overly dry with constant use, so after one gets clear, occasional application is all that's needed to keep sebum in check."
Guys, VITAMINCURE.COM wrote me some info on the topical a. Here it is:
"Here's some background:
My boss had his Ph.D in chemistry and worked in the pharmaceuticals for ten years. Currently, he owns a semiconductor equipment supply company. When his nephew got a bad case of acne three years ago, instead of going on Accutane, he synthesized several Vitamin A analogs and tested them mixed with various oils vehicles. Together they found retinyl palmitate with olive and sunflower oil worked best to stop the oil. Clove oil was later added as disinfectant and to discourage ingestion. A business major, his nephew was keen on marketing the product so he recruited six fellow students at the University of Texas willing to test (plus they had free health insurance and they didn't need to pay for blood tests).
All had cystic acne and either wanted to or would have gone on Accutane as no other choice. Two had been on Accutane already and were helpful to encourage the others through the purging period of the first month. The acne purging can be alarming for some at first, but this is evidence it's working to extricate the scars, and by the time one finishes the first bottle, purging will have subsides and smoother skin evident. Only one dropped out by the end.AA
Side effects were our greatest concerns and the worst reaction is dry lips. After the first 12 weeks, the scars were generally purged but their may be a few acute periods after that depending on severity.AA Within six months, even the worst case was substantially improved, and by year's most looked as if they'd never had a pimple. Four still use it for maintenance, not everyday. The oil should diminish at first application, but glands will take time to shrink. However, as some oil is always needed to lubricate the skin, and eventually the face will become overly dry with constant use, so after one gets clear, occasional application is all that's needed to keep sebum in check."
Interesting. Do you have to make this at home or can you purchase this at a store?
hey, did you see this that the people at VC wrote me about its comparison to retin-a? I posted it earlier, but just in case you didnt catch it:
"Retinyl Palmitate is the best performer for skin absorption, and it has been
made better by our blend of oils. Together they go deep enough to
finally stop the oil."
hey, did you see this that the people at VC wrote me about its comparison to retin-a? I posted it earlier, but just in case you didnt catch it:
"Retinyl Palmitate is the best performer for skin absorption, and it has been
made better by our blend of oils. Together they go deep enough to
finally stop the oil."
Yeah, sure I saw that. But there's a difference between it penetrating and it getting converted to retinoic acid. The conversion rate for Retin-A is much higher. Retinyl palmitate is much lower, but then it's cheap. The question is what concentration of Retinyl palmitate does the conversion flatten out at? I've a reasonable suspicion that it flattens out at much lower levels than 20%.
From what I've read, pure retinol seems to be the best choice for topicals, it's less light sensitive. But I might be wrong, I haven't read enough of the literature to be sure.
hey, did you see this that the people at VC wrote me about its comparison to retin-a? I posted it earlier, but just in case you didnt catch it:
"Retinyl Palmitate is the best performer for skin absorption, and it has been
made better by our blend of oils. Together they go deep enough to
finally stop the oil."
Yeah, sure I saw that. But there's a difference between it penetrating and it getting converted to retinoic acid. The conversion rate for Retin-A is much higher. Retinyl palmitate is much lower, but then it's cheap. The question is what concentration of Retinyl palmitate does the conversion flatten out at? I've a reasonable suspicion that it flattens out at much lower levels than 20%.
From what I've read, pure retinol seems to be the best choice for topicals, it's less light sensitive. But I might be wrong, I haven't read enough of the literature to be sure.
hey, did you see this that the people at VC wrote me about its comparison to retin-a? I posted it earlier, but just in case you didnt catch it:
"Retinyl Palmitate is the best performer for skin absorption, and it has been
made better by our blend of oils. Together they go deep enough to
finally stop the oil."
Yeah, sure I saw that. But there's a difference between it penetrating and it getting converted to retinoic acid. The conversion rate for Retin-A is much higher. Retinyl palmitate is much lower, but then it's cheap. The question is what concentration of Retinyl palmitate does the conversion flatten out at? I've a reasonable suspicion that it flattens out at much lower levels than 20%.
From what I've read, pure retinol seems to be the best choice for topicals, it's less light sensitive. But I might be wrong, I haven't read enough of the literature to be sure.
hey, did you see this that the people at VC wrote me about its comparison to retin-a? I posted it earlier, but just in case you didnt catch it:
"Retinyl Palmitate is the best performer for skin absorption, and it has been
made better by our blend of oils. Together they go deep enough to
finally stop the oil."
Yeah, sure I saw that. But there's a difference between it penetrating and it getting converted to retinoic acid. The conversion rate for Retin-A is much higher. Retinyl palmitate is much lower, but then it's cheap. The question is what concentration of Retinyl palmitate does the conversion flatten out at? I've a reasonable suspicion that it flattens out at much lower levels than 20%.
From what I've read, pure retinol seems to be the best choice for topicals, it's less light sensitive. But I might be wrong, I haven't read enough of the literature to be sure.
hey, did you see this that the people at VC wrote me about its comparison to retin-a? I posted it earlier, but just in case you didnt catch it:
"Retinyl Palmitate is the best performer for skin absorption, and it has been
made better by our blend of oils. Together they go deep enough to
finally stop the oil."
Yeah, sure I saw that. But there's a difference between it penetrating and it getting converted to retinoic acid. The conversion rate for Retin-A is much higher. Retinyl palmitate is much lower, but then it's cheap. The question is what concentration of Retinyl palmitate does the conversion flatten out at? I've a reasonable suspicion that it flattens out at much lower levels than 20%.
From what I've read, pure retinol seems to be the best choice for topicals, it's less light sensitive. But I might be wrong, I haven't read enough of the literature to be sure.
CORRECTION Retin-A is never converted because it is already in the ALL-TRANS form of Retinoic Acid. All that Retin-A has to do is to just get inside the skin.
ACTUALLY the correct term is Retinyl Palmitate is converted into Retin-A ( all-trans-retinoic acid ) inside the skin.
Even if you put 100% Retinyl Palmitate on your skin, it will never have the capability of a 0.025% all-trans-retinoic acid Retin-A cream. If Retinyl Palmitate would equal the capability of Retin-A then it will become a prescription drug.
my forehead if finally starting to clear up. the rest of my face still looks like crap though.(i have one of the hugest bumps ever on my nose right now, it should have its own zip code!) skin is still peeling....i wonder if that has to do with me using bp?
i also am taking vitamin a pills at 25,000 iu's a day. plan on going to the doc in a few weeks to make sure everything is fine.