I have upped my dose of colustrum, so will see how that works out.

have also bought Evening Primrose Oil pills that I will start supplementing with (Pjjordan this is what lamp87 means by EPO which you can see if browse her profile).

Thanks Churchill. Will get those as well. Hopefully 1 of these 3 things work!

 

Hi all,

Checking in as promised.

I luckily still am on the right track, hair loss has halted, my hair seems to be better than it was before.

If you go back you can see that I halted the loss quickly by taking EPO and started a topical fungicide

Well I have now only used the topical a total of 2 times, it was not what helped

I am still continuing EPO in varying degrees.

Has anyone tried any variation of GLA?? -epo, borage oil, black currant oil etc

Wishing everyone strong follicles today!

I ordered another round of RU since that is the only thing that definitely grew hair for me. I got brain fog so I am going to use a much smaller dose this time and see if that helps. I am also going to order colostrum. Hopefully this stops the shedding.

Lamp, can you please re-post what exactly you are taking and what doses of each? Is this EPO?

http://www.amazon.com/EPO-Boost-Powerful-Endurance-Enhancer-caps/dp/B004U2JR8K

Thanks!

That product is nooot what I am talking about. See links below

So GLAs are gamma linolenic acids, there are several types, evening primrose is one, and is considered to be best for females as opposed to the others.

I started taking roughly 3000 mg (typically 3 pills) twice a day.I stuck to this for about 3 weeks before I tapered and take roughly 1000mg/day. BUT the levels of GLA vary in the form.. EPO has one of the lowest concentrations, while Black Currant oil has a higher concentration. Read through amazon reviews. Then google.. Borage oil, Primrose oil, black currant oil for hair loss.

http://www.amazon.com/Foods-Super-Primrose-1300Mg-Softgels/dp/B0018O8IQA/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1418460424&sr=1-1&keywords=evening+promise+oil

http://www.amazon.com/Now-Foods-Black-Currantoil-Softgels/dp/B00A8PJC4C/ref=sr_1_2?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1418460446&sr=1-2&keywords=black+currant+oil

http://www.amazon.com/NOW-Foods-Borage-1000mg-Softgels/dp/B0013OQIX0/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1418453284&sr=1-1&keywords=borage+oil

Why does acne.org still have a big product reviews page for B5? http://www.acne.org/vitamin-b5-reviews-52/

It's got lots of good reviews but we all know what happens eventually...

Surely there should be a big warning put on that page.

Hello. My advice to you people freaking out about losing hair since megadosing on B5 (L-Panthothenic acid) is to taper off it as soon as possible. It's evident that too much causes hairloss. Now, instead of adding more stuff to your regimen to try and reverse the hair you lost from the B5, I would stay off of it for at least 5 months. The hair you lost will take at least 4 months to grow back because of the natural hair cycle.

The hair cycle is a fact and applies to all normal human beings. I saw this for myself when I quit Minoxidil and Propecia after being on it for almost 2 years then quit, which was followed by massive shedding. After 5 months, I started seeing a lot of my hair grow back. Since my condition is AGA hairloss, any gains or maintenance done by Minoxidil and Propecia was lost. So those hairs I would've lost from AGA anyway didn't grow back but I hope you see the point I'm trying to make.

For people interested in using B5 to suppress sebum production and acne once your hair grows back, do it the right way.

Take L-Pantothenic acid (500mg three times daily) and L-Cysteine (L-Cysteine 250 mg three times daily) every day until your acne clears up. Once it clears, stay off of it, or lower the dosage for maintenance. When you have a break out, up the dosage until skin clears again. Never take more than 1.5g of B5 and always use it with L-Cysteine. Never take more than 1g of L-Cysteine per day.

Oilboi that's still too much pantothenic acid to be suggesting. I only took 4 500mg tabs (+ NAC) a day for a few days and have had hair loss for two months since. The PA route to acne control is just not worth the risk in my opinion.

Correct, don't take any B5. Someone reported they started losing hair after taking 1 gram per day. Stay away from it unless you want to risk losing your hair.

Oilboi that's still too much pantothenic acid to be suggesting. I only took 4 500mg tabs (+ NAC) a day for a few days and have had hair loss for two months since. The PA route to acne control is just not worth the risk in my opinion.

I never had any issues with this dose myself but I agree that ever body's reaction to the same drug or supplement is different.

If your body reacted that drastically to 2g of B5 in just 4 days, your body is probably insufficient in other essential vitamins or could be underlying another problem. Have you seen a nutritionist for professional advice? and what did you do for your hairloss?

I went to the doctor but she was uninterested really and didn't understand my B5 story. All the guys save one who have had their blood tested have been normal so I don't see the point of pushing this doctor route forwards, they'll only prescribe dangerous chemicals anyway, like the antibiotics they gave me for my acne which were useless long term and very unhealthy. I'm just taking a nutrient supplement, bamboo extract for silica and starflower oil for GLA, doing regular oil massages with anti fungal essential oils and hoping :/

Like you say, seeing a doctor is useless. All they know is about expensive and usually dangerous prescription drugs.

I recommend seeing a Nutritionist or a Dietitian.

I'm really sorry about the condition you are suffering and I hope that you'll recover.

aw thanks x theres more to life than looks I guess

B complex

Biotin

Evening primrose oil

Super toco

Nizoral

Brewers yeast

Hair essentials

Msm

Argon oil

B1

Magnesium

Zinc

L-cysteine

Nac

Nettle root

Saw palmetto

Adrenomax

Vitamin d3

Human growth hormone

Grhp-6

Alpecin

There's probably some more but these are all the things I have tried so far and all have failed.

Any news from anyone?

Hi guys, I'm new to this thread but I was wondering has anyone tried (and had success with) natural DHT blockers for hair loss. I saw Blue09's post and was wondering if anyone else had had success with hair regrowth.

I have my mild/moderate acne under relative control this past year but I'm suffering from hairloss with thin hair and a V shaped widow's peak. At the moment it's a 2.5 or 3 on the norwood scale. I tried the Vitamin b5 experiment for my acne 4 years ago but I gave up after a month as I decided this treatment wasn't for me.

Hey guys, checking in again and I have bad news.

A few months ago I wrote that I had stopped the shedding and experienced regrowth. Well I do still have some small regrowth but I have started shedding again unfortunately. It has now been exactly one year since the hair loss started and it still hasn't stopped even though I just took B5 for a week.

When I compare my hair now to one year ago I have not receded much, maybe 0,5 to 1cm, but I have lost so much density.

However I only seem to have lost hair in the typical MPB areas, the other areas are still extremely thick.

My temples are getting extremely thin and my crown has also thinned quite a lot.

I have come to believe that the hair loss is not due to a deficiency(various blood tests done by both myself and other forum members confirm this) and conclude that B5 must have somehow kickstarted MPB. I was 17 when I started taking the B5 and am 18 now. There is also no history of MPB in my family. This, coupled with the fact that the hair loss started when I was taking the B5 and has not stopped 1 year later, which is 2-3 hair cycles, clearly means it is not Telogen Effluvium. I also highly doubt that it was just a coincidence that my hair loss started right when I was taking the B5.

I am not sure what to do next. I have tried various topicals and supplements but nothing has helped so far. I have always had a high, uneven hairline and the loss of density just makes it look worse. At the rate I am losing hair I assume I will be NW3-4 by the time I'm 21.

Currently I would say I am at NW 1.5-2 but my hairline has been this way since birth.

I am considering taking Minoxidil and Finasteride as these are the only "accepted" treatments(I know there is RU as well, might look into that too) but I am wary of potential long term side effects

How can it be mpb when most of us are losing hair from all over, some even losing hair from body. It's not MPB

if its not MPB, then why does the hairline recede? If it's diffuse hairloss the hairline would stay the same and the hair would just get thinner everywhere.

What is it then in your opinion?

I have the worst from both worlds, diffuse shedding everywhere and receding hairline. Seems like some are only experiencing the one or the other.

Hair can still recede with diffuse hair loss as many of us are right now, I'm exactly the same as Churchill diffuse shedding and receding real bad. To be honest I thought it was adrenal glands causing it, but now I don't know, the hairs I she'd have a club on the end and that means TE but I don't think it's that either.

Has anyone tried stuff like drinking black tea (for lowering DHT) or emu oil for hair growth? I've been trying to look into more natural ways of preventing hair loss and encouraging renewal, and I've seen that some other methods listed in this thread haven't been so successful.

What the hell does B5 do to the human body how can you take it at medium dose for a week and have hair loss the rest of your bloody life. As if acne wasn't enough. RRRRRRRRRR </3

If its an adrenal problem what do people think of taking adrenal balancing supplements such as ashwagandha? I can't give up on this, being female and bald is too daunting to think about.

What is the general consensus, does B5 cause adrenal depletion or over production?

What the hell does B5 do to the human body how can you take it at medium dose for a week and have hair loss the rest of your bloody life. As if acne wasn't enough. RRRRRRRRRR </3

 

 

If its an adrenal problem what do people think of taking adrenal balancing supplements such as ashwagandha? I can't give up on this, being female and bald is too daunting to think about.

What is the general consensus, does B5 cause adrenal depletion or over production?

I had my adrenal tested and my endocrinologist confirmed it was at normal levels and had nothing to do with my hairloss.

Hair can still recede with diffuse hair loss as many of us are right now, I'm exactly the same as Churchill diffuse shedding and receding real bad. To be honest I thought it was adrenal glands causing it, but now I don't know, the hairs I she'd have a club on the end and that means TE but I don't think it's that either.

When there is a bulb on the hair it can mean two things.

1) Telogen Effluvium

2) Androgenic Alopecia(MPB)

TE usually resolves itself within a few hair cycles and shouldn't start immediately after you have a stressor. It takes 2-3 months until the hair loss starts. But as I and many others in here reported the hair loss started immediately during B5 supplementation so it doesn't seem likely that it is TE. Pleas feel free to prove me wrong but this is just what I have gathered from my research.

@Bosie

I drink a glass of water with 2 tbsps ACV every day and apply a mixture of Tea Tree oil, Castor oil, Olive oil and water to my scalp twice a week. It's difficult to say if it helps but I have short hair coming in where I am applying the mixture. I also rinse my scalp with ACV and Tea Tree oil twice a week to kill any fungals.

I have cut down on supplements and atm only take Zinc,Iron, Potassium Iodide and B6/B12, folic acid.

I might start adding Biotin again but I think the B complex gave me acne.

Also considering whether to do a Liver and Colon Cleanse/Flush to get out all the built up toxins but I still have to do some research on that

I am not sure which supplements I can

@ elmechanico

Thanks for replying. I might give that a go. I've heard good things about emu oil but it's kind of expensive. Biotin is supposed to be great for hair growth but it's reported that many people get breakouts from it, again i'm not sure I want to risk it. Zinc is supposed to be a good DHT blocker and many people recommend it for hairloss and I've used it on and off for awhile.

At the moment i'm using Avalon Organics thickening shampoo (biotin B-complex) and it does make my hair easier to style but I think its making my scalp itch. Has anybody had any experience with it? if this fails then i'm just going to buy the nioxin shampoo which seems to be the one that people with hairloss issues go for.

 

Hair can still recede with diffuse hair loss as many of us are right now, I'm exactly the same as Churchill diffuse shedding and receding real bad. To be honest I thought it was adrenal glands causing it, but now I don't know, the hairs I she'd have a club on the end and that means TE but I don't think it's that either.

When there is a bulb on the hair it can mean two things.

1) Telogen Effluvium

2) Androgenic Alopecia(MPB)

TE usually resolves itself within a few hair cycles and shouldn't start immediately after you have a stressor. It takes 2-3 months until the hair loss starts. But as I and many others in here reported the hair loss started immediately during B5 supplementation so it doesn't seem likely that it is TE. Pleas feel free to prove me wrong but this is just what I have gathered from my research.

@Bosie

I drink a glass of water with 2 tbsps ACV every day and apply a mixture of Tea Tree oil, Castor oil, Olive oil and water to my scalp twice a week. It's difficult to say if it helps but I have short hair coming in where I am applying the mixture. I also rinse my scalp with ACV and Tea Tree oil twice a week to kill any fungals.

I have cut down on supplements and atm only take Zinc,Iron, Potassium Iodide and B6/B12, folic acid.

I might start adding Biotin again but I think the B complex gave me acne.

Also considering whether to do a Liver and Colon Cleanse/Flush to get out all the built up toxins but I still have to do some research on that

I am not sure which supplements I can

I took b5 for nearly a year and I didn't notice any sort of shedding until I stopped, it 100% didn't start straight away. Also in some cases of TE the hair never grows back:-(