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thats soo good that you too are seeing improvement. i got my first saline injection about a week and a half ago by dr sire and as of today i can tell you that its improved maybe 70% . he suggested i have 3/4 more shots at the most for it to completely heal. im also taking vitamin C, collagen pills, copper pills and omega 3,6,9 that i bought from gnc, they all help the healing process. the saline injections really does wonders on these indentations caused by cortisone injections.
I'm getting some C tomorrow -- what are collagen pills? How do they work? I thought the skin has to create the collagen itself. I guess also it's fat we're talking about? Fat atrophy. So we need time to grow back our fat. I'm really skinny so growing fat isn't so easy for me. Oh well . . .
Are you sure there isn't still any microscopic swelling there? I wouldn't think the saline would work so fast for permanent results, but maybe if you got to it early enough. My scars were old when I did it myself.
Was it for cortisone depressions? Because there might be better improvement for those than regular acne scars. Apparently there is some immediate improvement, but multiple session are needed, and the fat has to grow back. But I think we're flushing out the cortisone that remains in the skin.
thats soo good that you too are seeing improvement. i got my first saline injection about a week and a half ago by dr sire and as of today i can tell you that its improved maybe 70% . he suggested i have 3/4 more shots at the most for it to completely heal. im also taking vitamin C, collagen pills, copper pills and omega 3,6,9 that i bought from gnc, they all help the healing process. the saline injections really does wonders on these indentations caused by cortisone injections.
I'm getting some C tomorrow -- what are collagen pills? How do they work? I thought the skin has to create the collagen itself. I guess also it's fat we're talking about? Fat atrophy. So we need time to grow back our fat. I'm really skinny so growing fat isn't so easy for me. Oh well . . .
Are you sure there isn't still any microscopic swelling there? I wouldn't think the saline would work so fast for permanent results, but maybe if you got to it early enough. My scars were old when I did it myself.
thats soo good that you too are seeing improvement. i got my first saline injection about a week and a half ago by dr sire and as of today i can tell you that its improved maybe 70% . he suggested i have 3/4 more shots at the most for it to completely heal. im also taking vitamin C, collagen pills, copper pills and omega 3,6,9 that i bought from gnc, they all help the healing process. the saline injections really does wonders on these indentations caused by cortisone injections.
I'm getting some C tomorrow -- what are collagen pills? How do they work? I thought the skin has to create the collagen itself. I guess also it's fat we're talking about? Fat atrophy. So we need time to grow back our fat. I'm really skinny so growing fat isn't so easy for me. Oh well . . .
Are you sure there isn't still any microscopic swelling there? I wouldn't think the saline would work so fast for permanent results, but maybe if you got to it early enough. My scars were old when I did it myself.
Was it for cortisone depressions? Because there might be better improvement for those than regular acne scars. Apparently there is some immediate improvement, but multiple session are needed, and the fat has to grow back. But I think we're flushing out the cortisone that remains in the skin.
Well I'm pretty sure the cortisone injections contributed, since I had never scarred before and after a bad infection that spread around my face I had to get cortisone injections for the first time. However, they didn't work right away so I had to get a series. Then I was also prescribed corticosteroid cream! I didn't do the saline injections to my face until about three years after all this, and I didn't get amazing improvement. I did look better for the first week because anytime you stick a needle in my face it takes me a while for the swelling to completely go down. One would think it was gone but you really can't judge if all the swelling is gone till after a week. Of course the saline absorbed super fast in me, probably an hour, but the swelling can remain.
I don't think the saline "flushes" it out exactly, I thought it was helping to break up the scar tissue under there. However, maybe the salt, which is all it is, is helping cleanse the area too. I think anyone can give themselves their own saline injections, I found it very easy. It just didn't improve me as much as others.
Well I'm pretty sure the cortisone injections contributed, since I had never scarred before and after a bad infection that spread around my face I had to get cortisone injections for the first time. However, they didn't work right away so I had to get a series. Then I was also prescribed corticosteroid cream! I didn't do the saline injections to my face until about three years after all this, and I didn't get amazing improvement. I did look better for the first week because anytime you stick a needle in my face it takes me a while for the swelling to completely go down. One would think it was gone but you really can't judge if all the swelling is gone till after a week. Of course the saline absorbed super fast in me, probably an hour, but the swelling can remain.
I don't think the saline "flushes" it out exactly, I thought it was helping to break up the scar tissue under there. However, maybe the salt, which is all it is, is helping cleanse the area too. I think anyone can give themselves their own saline injections, I found it very easy. It just didn't improve me as much as others.
Does anyone have any ideas about preventing it from happening. Supposedly I went to a credible dermatologist that wouldnt have gone overboard with the injection but I'm still pretty nervous at the thought of this happening. Is there any way to get remains of the injections out of your skin? annnnything? Thanks.
Does anyone have any ideas about preventing it from happening. Supposedly I went to a credible dermatologist that wouldnt have gone overboard with the injection but I'm still pretty nervous at the thought of this happening. Is there any way to get remains of the injections out of your skin? annnnything? Thanks.
Does anyone have any ideas about preventing it from happening. Supposedly I went to a credible dermatologist that wouldnt have gone overboard with the injection but I'm still pretty nervous at the thought of this happening. Is there any way to get remains of the injections out of your skin? annnnything? Thanks.
I just had another saline shot today, and yet another cortisone shot in the hard scar that keeps coming back.
Personally I think it's pretty damn risky to get a cortisone shot into a cyst, because you're already at risk of scarring for that cyst, and you're not injecting it into a raised hard scar where you want to destroy that collagen above the skin, you're doing it into a cyst inside your skin. I don't think I would ever do that. Too much risk of fat atrophy.
Is there any way to get the remains of the cortisone shot out of your face... I just had the shot and dont think I've noticed anything happening but I still want to prevent anything bad. Also, did you guys notice any precursors to the dents like skin thinning?
Maybe just ask for a saline shot right away. I didn't notice anything until the area started caving, which was two months later. I've had two saline shots in one week, I won't have another one for three weeks. The dent is a little better, but not gone yet. I know I need to give it time to regrow the fat and collagen.
Is there any way to get the remains of the cortisone shot out of your face... I just had the shot and dont think I've noticed anything happening but I still want to prevent anything bad. Also, did you guys notice any precursors to the dents like skin thinning?
Maybe just ask for a saline shot right away. I didn't notice anything until the area started caving, which was two months later. I've had two saline shots in one week, I won't have another one for three weeks. The dent is a little better, but not gone yet. I know I need to give it time to regrow the fat and collagen.
cortisone injections dont cause fat loss it causes fat cell shrinkage. so thats why doctors say its reversible because once the cortisone leaves the area the fat cells go back to normal and how long it takes depends on the individual. i read of cases where it takes well over a year.
ok so the dents created temporarily by the cortisone injections SHOULD fill in after a while, but what about the dents that are created by the inflammation, a cyst that you never had injected. Would those dents fill in? If those dents caused by the inflammation for some reason dont fill in then I might as well get the injection
I got 3 cortisone injections on Monday for some really bad cysts...actually I think the derm did 4 without me realizing it b/c I was in a lot of pain (she also popped them). By Tuesday they were completely flat and of course I was happy but by Wednesday I noticed I had denting in 4 spots...that's why I say I think she did 4 since I NEVER get that kind of scarring from acne. Anyway, it's not too bad right now but I am very scared that it will worsen and possibly become permanent.
Today I called the office and asked if I could schedule an appt to have saline injected but they insisted that it would fill by itself. I know this is possible but I don't want to risk it! She told me that it would fill itself in 2 weeks and that I need to wait...that they will only inject it with saline if I still have the dents after 2 months. From what I've read on this board it takes WAY more than 2 weeks for dents to fill. Should I see another doctor who will help me or should I wait it out?
Hi there,
Sorry to hear this has happened to you! I have had issues with cortisone induced atrophy also. I stayed away from the injections for awhile and stupidly did another one a couple of months ago, and I did in fact atrophy. However, it was only really noticeable for the first month or so. I'd say I had it done maximum two months ago and it appears to be filling in, because I don't notice it as I used to. I wouldn't rush to do a filler just yet, as distressing as it is - hang in there! The best explanation for atrophy that I came across in my research is that the cortisone has the effect of shrinking fat cells temporarily, or something like this. Anyways, I'd say try to give it some time - let us know how it goes. Good luck!
Lisa
thats soo good that you too are seeing improvement. i got my first saline injection about a week and a half ago by dr sire and as of today i can tell you that its improved maybe 70% . he suggested i have 3/4 more shots at the most for it to completely heal. im also taking vitamin C, collagen pills, copper pills and omega 3,6,9 that i bought from gnc, they all help the healing process. the saline injections really does wonders on these indentations caused by cortisone injections.
I'm getting some C tomorrow -- what are collagen pills? How do they work? I thought the skin has to create the collagen itself. I guess also it's fat we're talking about? Fat atrophy. So we need time to grow back our fat. I'm really skinny so growing fat isn't so easy for me. Oh well . . .
Are you sure there isn't still any microscopic swelling there? I wouldn't think the saline would work so fast for permanent results, but maybe if you got to it early enough. My scars were old when I did it myself.
Was it for cortisone depressions? Because there might be better improvement for those than regular acne scars. Apparently there is some immediate improvement, but multiple session are needed, and the fat has to grow back. But I think we're flushing out the cortisone that remains in the skin.
ya mine was caused by a cortisone injection i dont have acne nor acne scars ive never had a problem with breakouts in my entire life and i still dont. i just got vain over one stupid pimple and decided to get it injected. you can buy collagen pills from any vitamin store im not sure if they help but i know they wouldnt hurt. also i know its not micro swellng becaue 2 months ago i had it filled with restalyne (mistake dont ever do it it actually looks like shit, gives it a donut effect i had the dr inject it with an enzyme that dissoloves restalyne so theres no more filler left in there). and the swelling for that went down in 1 day this has been around 2 weeks already so theres no way its swelling plus the needle only went in twice . i think i saw a great improvement because mine has also been around 3 1/2 months since the indentation showed up. (my indentation showed up 2 whole freakin months after the initial shot!!! i got the shot in may the dent showed up end of july) i know for a fact the saline helped a lot and ill continue doing it till it disappears.
I had steroid injected 3 x into a cyct on my chin 10 years ago, I now have a whitish area with a dent that never went away and I have to drain the cyst opening every month or so.So I dont recomend steroid injection for a cyst. I should have just had it excised initially and had the scar!
Glucocortoid (steroids) have effects on the skin which result in dialated cappilaries and thinned skin due to a decrease in cellular metabolism. The list of drugs you mentioned at the begining of this thread are topical immuno supressants which don't have the same negative effects on the skin.
SKin atrophy in the context of what your reading just mean the skin has been thinned, often if you remove the topical steroid (glucocortoid) the skin will thicken up again on its own. The problem is that some people can't stop steroids because they have chronic inflammatory of auto immune skin conditions (think psoriasis, atopic dermatitis etc) so they need an alternative (this is where the topical immuno supresants such as protopic or elidel come in). The skin atrophy then has a chance to reverse on it's own.
They don't stimulate regeneration of the skin or increase collagen synthesis etc so they won't help people with scarring.