Thanks for sharing your photos! I can't believe how fast your skin has healed. And the improvement in pigmentation is amazing. There is significant improvement on your forehead!

I know there is still some swelling in your wound now but don't get discouraged at this point, hopefully you will see some good improvement. I really do believe the collagen growth occurs over a long time. My daughter is seeing noticeable improvement in her bigger scars right now from just saline injections which ended in May. I'm amazed, although the doctor said because she's so young (16) she'd be producing lots of collagen.

Personally, I would follow the doctor's orders precisely. So many people are risking things by experimenting on themselves here on the net. It's a little unnerving!

Good luck and please keep us updated on your progress!

i hope at 36 i'm still producing some collagen aswell!!!!

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

By the way, are you taking any oral vitamin C supplements? I have had my daughter taking them for months now because I read that burn victims are given vitamin C in order to help speed their skin healing in burn units. It couldn't hurt.

yes the last couple of weeks i've tried to take them every day but I do struggle to remember pills .....so thanks for reminding me 😉

Thanks for sharing.

First picture is a great improvement already, it seems gone. Think that there is no treatment that will give better results. Also healing is really fast.

Understand your dissapointment in the second picture, but stil amazing in this light and it seems to be a restless wound with healing capability so it can only improve. Also much of the dept is gone, making ik less noticable and easy to cover.

You could also try vitamine E pills.

Good luck

skin texture looks much better already it will still take some time for the collagen to grow in annd will get much better over the next few weeks/months!!!

It's looking pretty good. Particularly in the flattering light, the difference is quite amazing and it's early days yet. I think the most important thing is that your pigmentation seems to be restored, resolving the indent however will most likely take many procedures. I would recommend consistent sessions of micro needling combined with Platelet Rich Plasma sprayed over the site. The downtime should be days at most so it shouldn't interfere with your personal life like Recell has.

The improvement in pigmentation is dramatic. As for the indentation, I think that's to be expected. My understanding of ReCell was that it only regrows the outer layers of skin.

It's too bad it didn't take care of the indentation, but hypopigmentation is notoriously hard to cure and it looks like ReCell did the trick for you. That's a good start.

Hey Jake,

Did he refer to Recell as a standalone treatment or paired up with another treatment (ex laser). Recell alone might not give much results, but paired up with another treatment could produce synergistic results.

i wrote a thread on recell and I'm gonna update more information soon.

It sounds dumb, but since Dr. Goodman flat out said that he does not recommend ReCell for me, I didn't ask what procedure he'd favor. I could email the clinic and ask him. No guarantee he'd reply, but it'd be worth asking.

I wonder who performed the case study here: www.avitamedical.com/index.php?ob=3&id=279

I also agree the change in pigmentation is dramatic and probably worth the effort alone.

Jake. There should be a good amount of clinics that perform this in Australia. Re Cell was developed in Perth.

this is one clinic

http://www.absolutemakeover.com.au/recell.htm

Okay, I'm going to be absolutely honest, because I believe you deserve that and also I have a very good eye for such things. I think you got about 10 percent, MAYBE 15 percent improvement when all is truly healed.

On the one hand this is GREAT because you actually got some improvement. AND you'll probably improve another 2-3 percent but I HIGHLY doubt more than that (but please prove me wrong. So I think when all is said and done you'll have at the max 13-15 percent improvement.

But clearly, this treatment is not the solution we had hoped it would be --and I don't think anyone should get too optimistic about recell at this moment. More is DEFINITELY NEEDED.

Now I want to ask you GBL about your skin treatment. I think you should go ahead an use copper peptides as long as there are no contraindications with the other stuff.

Also, once you've healed a bit further(maybe 3 weeks from now) think about giving Retin A a try. My acne is long gone now for a few years --but I've read a bunch of stuff about it's power to stimulate collagen and improve skin pigmentation and tone. It may very well improve your scar and it's generally used by people without any acne just for anti-aging. I've been using it for about 1 month now and see a DEFINITE improvement in my skin tone. Something for you to consider.

Now take care --don't even worry about this anymore --you hit it with your best shot. Now you have to relax, get well, enjoy your life and count your blessings. There will be something in the near future that will be more powerful than this and it will get you even closer to an optimum result.

Still too early to say now but I think it does great for non-indented scars because right away you can see that the whiteness is gone compared to the before photos.

Thanks for sharing gbl.

I have a slightly different view. Improvement is hard to quantify as an exact percentage but I see much more than 15% improvement. i see about 30-50% improvement in indentation augmentation. Keep in mind this is probably not an acne related scar.

Ask yourself, would you have seen this type of result with a laser alone not to mention the dangers of lasers? In my opinion, the Recell did what it was supposed to do. Improve pigmentatin (huge), decrease adverse effects of laser, and improve effectiveness of laser. For a minor scar, Im sure the improvement would be a higher percentage.

Thanks for the honest and objective comments guys

things to remember: the full effect was never promised after one week, I wouldn't want to draw any final conclusions until 3 months have passed at least

If you were looking to change pigmentation or texture issues alone, it would seem (so far) that this really is a cure.

I was hoping for a 50% improvement to make it worth the money. Its hard to quantify changes. You could say there was pigment + texture + indent, while now there is only indent, thats 66% of the problem gone. The dent is improved, certainly. Do I regret spending all that money? Too early to say. But, a dent alone is easier to go forward with. I could look at fillers , more needling, carboxy.

One more thing I would like to point for those seeking ablative lasers for treatment (ex fraxel repair). One thing I've noticed in GBL's case as well as Ernesto's case is there is barely any reddish tone left on the skin just weeks after the procedure, which leads me to believe recell does increase healing as well as improve texture, tone, pigmentation.

About a month or 2 ago I visited Dr. Persky in L.A. He specializes in Fraxel Repair and has done numerous treatments. I took at a look at the before and after photos. I would say most avg 15-25% improvement but they ALL had one thing in common... they were red. Even 6 months after, you can still see a reddish tone to their skin... although improved, it is still somewhat noticeable. If I can reduce or eliminate the reddish tone, I think its is definitely worth the extra money and hassle. Anyone else notice this?

i disagree with most of you its only been 1 week! i think her indent will improve ALOT over the next few weeks to months as the collagen slowly grows in. btw GBL have u thought about subcision i actually think u might be a good candidate for it but idk tho

i disagree with most of you its only been 1 week! i think her indent will improve ALOT over the next few weeks to months as the collagen slowly grows in. btw GBL have u thought about subcision i actually think u might be a good candidate for it but idk tho

subcision is something that no doctor or consultant has ever suggested to me so i would presume its not suitable......although i can certainly ask when i go back to see dr ahmed in 4 weeks time

thanks for the vote of confidence aswell- i hope you're right!

I'll post up some more pics in a couple of weeks when the area has healed more

Thanks for the honest and objective comments guys

things to remember: the full effect was never promised after one week, I wouldn't want to draw any final conclusions until 3 months have passed at least

If you were looking to change pigmentation or texture issues alone, it would seem (so far) that this really is a cure.

I was hoping for a 50% improvement to make it worth the money. Its hard to quantify changes. You could say there was pigment + texture + indent, while now there is only indent, thats 66% of the problem gone. The dent is improved, certainly. Do I regret spending all that money? Too early to say. But, a dent alone is easier to go forward with. I could look at fillers , more needling, carboxy.

That certainly is impressive then. Congratulations!

One more thing I would like to point for those seeking ablative lasers for treatment (ex fraxel repair). One thing I've noticed in GBL's case as well as Ernesto's case is there is barely any reddish tone left on the skin just weeks after the procedure, which leads me to believe recell does increase healing as well as improve texture, tone, pigmentation.

About a month or 2 ago I visited Dr. Persky in L.A. He specializes in Fraxel Repair and has done numerous treatments. I took at a look at the before and after photos. I would say most avg 15-25% improvement but they ALL had one thing in common... they were red. Even 6 months after, you can still see a reddish tone to their skin... although improved, it is still somewhat noticeable. If I can reduce or eliminate the reddish tone, I think its is definitely worth the extra money and hassle. Anyone else notice this?

that is a good point, but I would need to see far more before after pics of recell to see if it really did this. For example, in GBL's case exactly what kind of laser was used? At what setting? How many passes? And then we need better photos post-healing to see what the RECELL does. Let's not be hasty in drawing any unwarranted conclusions.

i believe graft excision would have been a better idea

gbl mentioned earlier in the thread that she had tried two prior surgical revisions and didn't want to try it again, which is certainly reasonable.

If I were gbl, I would be very happy with the money I'd spent no matter what happens at this point. The scar is a much better scar than it was, even the edges of the scar have been lasered down to a better level. It is a much more visually pleasing scar, and it will probably continue to improve over time. It has to be remembered that no scars are going to be removed completely with the techniques now available. And yes, the depth can continue to be worked on over time with topicals, etc. Congrats on your decision to go forward!

that is a good point, but I would need to see far more before after pics of recell to see if it really did this. For example, in GBL's case exactly what kind of laser was used? At what setting? How many passes? And then we need better photos post-healing to see what the RECELL does. Let's not be hasty in drawing any unwarranted conclusions.

this fractional laser http://www.quantasystem.com/root/en/produc...idprod=YOULASER at high setting although i cant be more precise on the setting. It certainly was incredibly painful even with the anaesthetic. And stunk of burning skin.....

That is a substantial change in pigment from bright white to pale pink. The depth of the scar has also improved quite a bit. It's early days yet but so far so good.

As a sidenote to rez77, you need to get your eyes tested if that's what you call 10% improvement. And while I'm at it rez, don't go around making rude statements like 'you'll get 15% improvement MAYBE' when you obviously have no clue in the slightest about recovery times from scar revision procedures.

That is a substantial change in pigment from bright white to pale pink. The depth of the scar has also improved quite a bit. It's early days yet but so far so good.

As a sidenote to rez77, you need to get your eyes tested if that's what you call 10% improvement. And while I'm at it rez, don't go around making rude statements like 'you'll get 15% improvement MAYBE' when you obviously have no clue in the slightest about recovery times from scar revision procedures.

Point taken --regardless, I hope I'm wrong anyway. I hope this treatment works more than I expect it to. Unfortunately, I'm not yet willing to alter my assessment --there is still swelling etc. to deal with --the outcome may indeed be better than 10=15 percent improvement --but I'm both hopefully optimistic, and cautiously skeptical. I don't think I need my eyes checked, I think there's some improvement right now --but it's still in the 10-15 percent range --all scars have indentations of some sort(unless we're only talking about tattoo removal or something to do with pigmentation) and without improvement at that level I see no reason why this would do ANYTHING, even 1 percent of an improvement for acne scars. I hope it does, but let's wait and see, okay?

Thank-you GBL for your willingness to put up photos and I look forward to keeping up to date with your continued improvement(and believe me from the bottom of my heart when I say I hope I am being stupidly conservative about my assessment of the procedure thus far and that you achieve a 100 percent full recovery!). Who knows, maybe you will and the recell/collagen etc. will really kick in in some unexpected way!

OK! I found the Dr in Winnipeg - I had deleted the e-mail

His name is Dr. Ken Dolynchuk

His website:

http://www.agelesscosmetic.com/about.php

The article he wrote:

http://ca.vlex.com/vid/spray-on-skin-spark...debate-63932871

He is a Recell advocate but when I contacted him he was seeing ONLY Canadian patients.

If anyone learns differently please advise