You can get tattoo needles online. I got mine from Amazon through one of their third-party sellers. As for single needles, rollers and stamps, I get mine from Sarah Vaughter. Google her. Her website also has instructions for rolling. I have bought my Vitamin C powder through her and bought pre-mixed Vitamin C serum through Amazon.

Questions about dermastamping...

1. Is it best to disinfect skin with alcohol and then dermastamp on dry skin or should one apply an oil/mousturizer and then dermastamp?

2. Is it OK to use rosehip seed oil right after dermastamping or should one use an ointment like Vit A&D for the first few days and then

use the rosehip seed oil?

Questions about dermastamping...

1. Is it best to disinfect skin with alcohol and then dermastamp on dry skin or should one apply an oil/mousturizer and then dermastamp?

2. Is it OK to use rosehip seed oil right after dermastamping or should one use an ointment like Vit A&D for the first few days and then

use the rosehip seed oil?

 

1. I would think that you should definitely disinfect beforehand - this happens with any skin treatment or injections so it's natural that you should do the same.

2. I've heard it's better to apply products right after stamping because the absorption in the stamped area is a lot better, thus the products will penetrate more effectively - however, it's important to apply the right products because post-stamping, anything applied can possibly absorb directly into your bloodstream (so essentially, you'd want to use natural products). People say different things though and what products you apply is really up to you. I personally apply Avalon Organics Vitality Vitamin C Serum, let that sink in, then apply Neosporin to prevent any infection or what not. You can probably do the same - apply your rose hip seed oil, then your Vitamin A+D ointment.

Does anyone have any good links for a topical regiment while rolling? There are so many threads in this forum and many go nowheres.

What number of needles are necessary for 1.5 mm rolling, and what types of rollers are best?

I would like to get some opinions on using this product after dermarolling:

http://www.gardenofw...656/7046216.htm

GoW Chock Full O' Vitamins Serum

It has Vitamin A C and E in it. The vitamin C is the Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate kind which is supposed to be gentle to the skin, but it the vitamin A (retinal) I'm not too sure about. Is it too harsh for the skin after dermarolling? I'm reading mixed opinions about retinal, some say it helps a lot while dermarolling, some say to stay away from it while dermarolling but I haven't seen many personal experiences with it... just people saying whether it is good or bad while dermarolling... Anyway, this is the serum I currently have my eyes set on.

I am using the GOW product, but just by itself at this point. The retinol is retinyl palmitate, which is not as harsh as Retin-A. I like what the serum does for my skin standing alone and I intend to use it in conjunction with needling.

BTW, I also tested a few scars with a 3RL tattoo needle. I had just been using lancets and dermastamp previously. I don't think I will be using the tattoo needles again. I think they are too much for my skin to handle - appear to have made the indentations a little deeper. It was very recent, though, so it may improve with time.

I am using the GOW product, but just by itself at this point. The retinol is retinyl palmitate, which is not as harsh as Retin-A. I like what the serum does for my skin standing alone and I intend to use it in conjunction with needling.

BTW, I also tested a few scars with a 3RL tattoo needle. I had just been using lancets and dermastamp previously. I don't think I will be using the tattoo needles again. I think they are too much for my skin to handle - appear to have made the indentations a little deeper. It was very recent, though, so it may improve with time.

 

How are you using the GOW product? instructions are a bit odd to me, probably cause I'm a guy... and what is the other product you use for neeling/dermarolling? I emailed them regarding the vit C content of the serum and they said it isn't high enough to be considered a vit C serum so I guess I'm going to have to find a different product to use for dermarolling...

I am using the GOW product, but just by itself at this point. The retinol is retinyl palmitate, which is not as harsh as Retin-A. I like what the serum does for my skin standing alone and I intend to use it in conjunction with needling.

BTW, I also tested a few scars with a 3RL tattoo needle. I had just been using lancets and dermastamp previously. I don't think I will be using the tattoo needles again. I think they are too much for my skin to handle - appear to have made the indentations a little deeper. It was very recent, though, so it may improve with time.

 

How are you using the GOW product? instructions are a bit odd to me, probably cause I'm a guy... and what is the other product you use for neeling/dermarolling? I emailed them regarding the vit C content of the serum and they said it isn't high enough to be considered a vit C serum so I guess I'm going to have to find a different product to use for dermarolling...

 

I am using the GOW serum at night after I wash off my make-up. Just spread a small pea-size drop all over my face and go to bed! Actually the Vitamin C component that's worthwile in it is tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate. It's the "softer" version of Vitamin C, just like retinyl palmitate is the "softer" version of Vitamin A. Both are very easily used by the body according to Dr. Des Fernandes. I have also used the Vitamin C powder from Sarah Vaughter and found that to be very tolerable (and less wasteful than buying the pre-mixed serums that last maybe a month).

hi, I posted a while back in this thread, but havent got a response. Does anyone know how derma rolling will affect dark marks cause by acne? Will it reduce the dark marks, make it worse, or will not affect them?

Will reduce red (dark) marks.

Update: 10 months of dermarolling, slow results but the progress is evident. Don't give up.

Does anyone know what kind/where to purchase single needles to better treat single scars?

http://shop.owndoc.com/p-172/singleneedles.html

Where do you guys purchase your rollers from? I had purchased a 1.5mm dr.roller a while back, it's time for a new one, but I forget where I got my original from.

Is dr.roller still the preferred brand, or is something better available now? I have a few new scars that recently formed, I'm thinking about going over them with a 2.0mm. What do you all think, 1.5mm vs 2.0mm?

Any brands and websites you guys can suggest? Thanks

DON'T go over acne or healing acne / acne marks! I've been needling for the past few months and one time or another I have accidentally gone over tiny acne and it ended up scarring... Only use this on the parts of your face that are truly free of acne, otherwise you're just going to make more scars to worry about rolling the next time

So what I've noticed about dermarolling is that microswelling is completely real. My scarring looks so much better the morning after rolling. I use a 1.5mm roller, and I've only done 3 times now. I've been spacing them out monthly. I don't even know if I'm doing it correctly, as I get pricks of blood here and there on my face (pricks that barely bleed), but based off what I've read, I think that's about right. It's kind of hard not to draw some blood with 1.5mm needles imo. As long as it isn't leaking, I think it's fine.

I don't know if dermarolling will every fix my scars for good, but I think I could live with having to dermaroll more often if it came down to that. Fraking acne I couldn't hide, but my scars I definitely can to a very significant extent using rollers. My question is that, if I ever went that route, and began rolling weekly just to cause microswelling (and thus hide my scars), what is maximum size roller that I should use? This is still like a year away if it comes to this, but I'm just curious.

https://www.rodanand...re_09.30.11.pdf

 

First success story

 

Dude how long have you been rolling ^^^?

My question is that, if I ever went that route, and began rolling weekly just to cause microswelling (and thus hide my scars), what is maximum size roller that I should use?

 

0.5 mm

Do yoy see any changes ?

The third photo August 2011 next 4 June 2012 (Ju1,Ju2.Ju3,Ju4).

Hello Bumby,

I think I do see an improvement; the skin seems 'flatter' as if some of the 'deeper' marks have minimized. The texture of the skin seems to have improved significantly. But more important: are YOU happy with the results?

I think there are some improvements but not radical, I don't use a serum after dermarolling, I don't use Vit A, Vit C serum. In next dermarolling session I will use EMLA cream and copper peptide serum after.

There is a definite improvement. What length of needle have you been rolling / stamping with?

2.0 mm dermaroller MNS, 4 times from aug 2011 to june 2012. But it's not done professional, I'm not bleeding like in youtube videos, i don't use emla, i don't use Vit C serum. Only I use Retin A every night, but not 3 days after dermarolling.

I am doing derma rolling. You can keep track of my treatment on my blog. I find sometimes the forums can get confusing so i am going to keep a blog of my needling

i only apply moisterizer after dermarolling my face and its usually a bloody mess i use the 2mm roller ...anyway should i use a serum or something while its recovering ...i have a high threshold of pain and really tough skin so i roll pretty hard ...i really want to start dermastamp some of the individual scars anyone have experience?

Use Vitamin C serum fresh prepared. "Vitamin C induces lipid peroxidation and reactive aldehydes, a step required for collagen expression, collagen m-RNA levels, and collagen production in cultured human fibroblasts". After 1 week resume Retin A treatment.

You can dermastamp individual scars in the same dermarolling session. Dermstamp it's less painfull.