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anybody? anyone at all ?i'm curious to find outwhen we'll see this being used for scarring.
It's already being used although not exactly widely and with disappointing results. When I first read this thread I got pretty excited but now, after having learned various things I believe there will never be a "stem cell treatment" that can significantly improve or get completely rid of (acne) scarring. What the Bulgarian doctor described here is basically the same as a filler only with added stem cells. And that does not get your skin back the way it was before acne scars came along contrary to what the Bulgarian doctor would have you believe. I bet other people would give you a different answer, though. But I gave you mine.
I think results depend on how the cells are handled and the overall health of the patient..i certainly do think that there would be significant improvement..very close to what you had previously.
Maybe so. But I think even if something comes along like a stem cell treatment that is actually significantly beneficial, other treatments will still yield superior results.
That's just it..Other methods have not yielded superior results and in some cases made matters worse. I don't doubt that the stem cells would work for significantly improving scarring but we are in the infancy of this treatment. Researchers are gathering breakthrough ideas every day. I think this will be superior to anything available without the risks involved but the real question is when will this form of treatment become available? It's all about money.
I'm pretty sure ECELL has so much more potential than ACELL.
But due to law, there is no further research. Poor countries like Ukraine use it but don't do enough research.
I mean there are thousands of abortions every day, so come on. You can kill it, but not use it for science... ?!?
That's just it..Other methods have not yielded superior results and in some cases made matters worse. I don't doubt that the stem cells would work for significantly improving scarring but we are in the infancy of this treatment. Researchers are gathering breakthrough ideas every day. I think this will be superior to anything available without the risks involved but the real question is when will this form of treatment become available? It's all about money.
When you say "this form of treatment" what do you mean, exactly? Excision followed by injection of stem cells?
well i don't know for sure if there would have to be an excision.. i do know that stem cells are attracted to sites that need repair..perhaps the area of concern would have to have some form of controlled injury or wound in order to do what they do naturally, for the best result.
would anyone care to elaborate?
well i don't know for sure if there would have to be an excision.. i do know that stem cells are attracted to sites that need repair..perhaps the area of concern would have to have some form of controlled injury or wound in order to do what they do naturally, for the best result.would anyone care to elaborate?
Yes, there would have to be an excision. There's really no other way for it to work as your body won't get rid of the scar tissue on its own and if there's scar tissue where you'd like there to be skin...your body won't be able to regrow skin in that spot. But an injection of stem cells alone after an excision won't do the trick. Stem cells play a role in regeneration but in order for them to be able to do their best work, let's say, the processes that get the formation of scar tissue going have to be put to a halt first. At least that's how I've understood it. Hypothetically, if I'm right...there's no reason to be saddened as there are quite a few treatments other than "stem cell treatments" which will give patients the results they hope for. Mark my words.
http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/te...?z=4&a=3295
i really think that this article is great news for us acne scar sufferers..wat do you guys think??
it would depend on the area treated and the problem. for something like scars the old tissue would have to be wounded ( maybe using medical needling..depending on the type of scar tissue ) or yes maybe even excised.
the exception would obviously be volume loss..
(again, this is all in theory) as i am not a professional in this field.
well, if one can wait the stem cells would be their best option as you will grow new skin. These stem cells are smart in terms of doing repair work..we don't understand it all yet but it is superior to anything currently available. The other techniques carry greater risks and don't get rid of scar tissued but camouflage them...trust me.
well, if one can wait the stem cells would be their best option as you will grow new skin. These stem cells are smart in terms of doing repair work..we don't understand it all yet but it is superior to anything currently available. The other techniques carry greater risks and don't get rid of scar tissued but camouflage them...trust me.
Well, I guess time will tell. 🙂
What needs to happen is..first doctors have to realize this true potential and stop thinking Stem Cells are a thing in the year 3012 on the planet SKINTRON.
I think
most doctors are excited about the potential uses of stem cells
it is science meets the medical field. The potential is there. Next we all, somehow must push for Laws to change and more effort in promoting these stem cell treatments. Especially for facial scarring.. as it isn't treated as seriously as other "deseases" Some
doctors even label these patients as people with Body Dismorphic
Syndrome and that is unfair as most people psychologically would be more confident if they could repair their scarring. It's easy for others without the problem to shrug it off, isn't it?
The fact that the term is now constantly in every form of media is positive. The buzz words; Stem Cells appear everywhere.. now how do we bring it in the mainstream of medicine?
I tried sending this to BRD but obviously, once again his inbox is full and i need advice. This company is located within walking distance from my house. (USA) I've been talking to the stem cell collector and i wont list everything included in their pamphlets but this is what the collection procedure looks like : (they also have collection centers in china)
3. A few days prior to the collection you will recieve two injections of granulocyte colony stimulating factor or G-CSF(also referred to asG-CSF or the mobilizing agent) a substance that mobilizes and increases the number of stem cells in the blood circulation 4) prior to collection, approximately one teaspoon of blood will be drawn to ensure that your white blood cell count is high enough to begin the collection process. 5) The collection or Apherisis process involves the following : you will be attached to an apherisis machine for approximately 3-4 hours at a collection center. A needle will be put into one arm to serve as outflow and another needle will be put into the other arm to serve as inflow. Your blood will be circulated through the machine before being returned to you. The machine will take the stem cells out of your blood. If you have previously recieved a bone marrow transplant, chemotherapy or radiation, you may need more then one apherisis process at additional cost. i was told this makes for a painless procedure compared to taking the cells directly from the bone marrow. I know that this involves peripheral blood stem cells .. can they be combined somehow? maybe with fat.. I also gave them some information regarding the Lrg6 cell ( which is supposed to make real skin) and they seemed quite open to contacting Hans Clevers. If only Bulgarian derm.. BRD was here..
I'm also looking for a doctor who's skilled in subscision, which i plan to combine with prp and stem cells as outlined by brd in one of the earlier posts. Can anyone recommend someone ?..i am in the east coast (U.S.)
i will be updating my progress for those that still have an interest in this treatment.
now if i can only get brd to talk to these people .. 
Count me in coconut scar 
I'm interested with ur updates
Read this article
http://www.dermatlanta.com/Blog/2010/09/30...ogy-procedures/
