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Stem Cells for Acne Scar Repair (SCIENCE FACT, not science fiction!)

 
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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 01/29/2010 8:28 am

can someone roughly please explain what could I expect from this stem cell treatment? How does it work for acne scars? I suppose that it does not act like filler and raise scars up? So what does it do then? Someone, shortly pls :angel:

It basically works similar to a filler, the way I've understood it. But it lasts a lot longer than others. And it's combined with the stem cells which supposedly do actual repair to the subdermal layer.

http://www.harleystreetskinclinic.com/www....s/info.php?p=24

http://stemcellutions.co.uk/page_1247915450200.html

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Posted : 01/29/2010 12:03 pm

I met my doctor today, he confirmed that he will do stem cell treatment on me, my redness from peel if gradually fading, and we will do stem cell treatment in March. What he said to me is that he is going to remove ADULT STEM CELLS from my fat and inject them into scarred areas on my face.

I hope this will work that's all I can say for now... :think:

Who is your doctor and where is he located?

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Posted : 01/29/2010 12:08 pm

BRD - Are you still around? I still am trying to send you a private message. Your inbox has been full for a long time. Thanks!

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(@marko_mne)

Posted : 01/29/2010 1:08 pm

I met my doctor today, he confirmed that he will do stem cell treatment on me, my redness from peel if gradually fading, and we will do stem cell treatment in March. What he said to me is that he is going to remove ADULT STEM CELLS from my fat and inject them into scarred areas on my face.

I hope this will work that's all I can say for now... :think:

Who is your doctor and where is he located?

 

my doctor is Borko Djordjevic, plastic surgeon. He is located in Montenegro. I can give you his email if you want, just pm me.

i dont have scars: thanx for the reply mate. I hope this will work, i was afraid it wont as I read in this tread that some doctor said that it wont work on old scars, and it would be as efficient as injecting the water in skin :ninja:

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 01/29/2010 2:55 pm

i dont have scars: thanx for the reply mate. I hope this will work, i was afraid it wont as I read in this tread that some doctor said that it wont work on old scars, and it would be as efficient as injecting the water in skin :ninja:

I don't remember reading that... That's weird. I don't see why your doctor would recommend it if it didn't work for old scars, though.

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Posted : 01/29/2010 8:30 pm

i read someone saying some japanese doctor said that... anyway, i hope it will work....

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 01/29/2010 9:21 pm

I'd be surprised if it didn't do a lot of good. I'm looking forward to hearing how it went. :)

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Posted : 01/29/2010 9:30 pm

I'd be surprised if it didn't do a lot of good. I'm looking forward to hearing how it went. 🙂

to be honest , for the first time I am a concerned....not because I am coward or something like that, I had laser treatments (non ablative tho), I had recently deep peel, but the reason I am concerned about this is that i don't hear nor I can find many proofs of this metod being done succesfuly to treat acne scars....to be honest, I don't have so much deep scars, but they are moderate, and i guess i could still live with them, but I so desperately want to get rid of them.... hopefully this would do the job, don't know what else to say. I will definitely keep you all updated, and will take before after photos. if all goes well I will gladly reccomend my doctor to everyone here, but for now all we can do is wait and hope.

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Posted : 01/30/2010 12:40 pm

here is the video my doctor sent me last night....this is how my procedure will look like...just it's for face offcourse...

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Posted : 01/30/2010 12:52 pm

here is the video my doctor sent me last night....this is how my procedure will look like...just it's for face offcourse...

While I do think you will see good results, I think you would get better results if you had some type of laser treatment (Fraxel repair) to go along with it. The stem cell treatment would repair your skin beneath the surface but, most people with scars still have rough/uneven texture where the scars are. Having a laser treatment would help with the texture (smooth it out) and the stem cell treatment would not only fill/ repair the scars but, would allow for better/faster reciovery from the laser.

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Posted : 01/30/2010 1:13 pm

i did the chemical peel, dunno if that counts , still red, and after redness subsides , month after, i will get stem cells done.... we will see what will happen tho ;)

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Posted : 01/31/2010 11:14 am

I've been following this thread since it's start; it is very promising and very informative. I do hope all the acne (scar) sufferers in this thread (and in general of course) will find an affordable and true solution for their scarring soon as it can be a very difficult journey to search for a solution.

 

Marko, the video you posted is very informative. I was wondering who your surgeon is, if this is a treatment he regularly does and where he is located.

 

I just read about the stem cell treatment Dr. Giampapa performs yesterday, he seems to use it for anti-aging purposes of the skin though. I'm wondering if the process he uses to isolate and activate the stem cells is the same as the process described in the video Marko posted.

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Posted : 01/31/2010 11:27 am

Marko, the video you posted is very informative. I was wondering who your surgeon is, if this is a treatment he regularly does and where he is located.

that is my main concern, besides I havent heard of any positive results so far with this treatment, i think that my doctor had started doing this recently....and I am not sure that he has yet treated acne scars with this procedure. I 'm really doubtfull of this, even tho i will do it probably as I really want to get rid of scarring

found this interesting story.... http://www.newsfox.com/pte.mc?pte=081104013 , well if Madonna can do it... 😀 altho I dont need it for aging purposes being 21...

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Posted : 01/31/2010 11:55 am

I would think the treatment used for anti-aging, or the reconstruction of tissue purposes - as seen in the first video about breast reconstruction you posted - would generally be the same as for acne scar purposes though. After all it all comes down to 'repairing tissues', though acne scarring is located more superficial of course. In that sense the remark someone made that stem cell repair as it is performed most of the times (injecting fat deep with added activated stem cells) might be helpful in repairing tissues and improving the quality of the skin, but not yet that succesful for repairing scars in the dermis. An approach of stem cell injections in combination with a deep peel/laser and dermaroller might thus indeed be helpful.

Though - I think - fat is injected into the subcutaneous layers (or deeper) most of the times, it can be injected more superficial if tiny parcels are used. I'm just wondering if that is done with this treatment too: injecting the activated fat with growth factors more superficial into the scars (next to deeper injections) and wouldn't it be possible to see a considerable improvement in scarring in the dermis this way too.

 

Just some thoughts though.

 

If I were you, Marko, I'd certainly ask your surgeon whether he has performed this procedure more often. After all the process of isolating and activating the stem cells and fat is a delicate process to perform as the cells shouldn't be damaged in the process.

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Posted : 01/31/2010 12:01 pm

Interesting article, I'm sure Dr. Karl-Georg Heinrich isn't the first surgeon to perform 'stem cell enriched fat injections' in Europe though as is stated in this article. The problem is there seem to be several surgeons saying they perform stem cell enriched fat transfers, but it is the process in itself that counts and there doesn't appear to be much information about the way these surgeons seperate and activate the stem cells (neither do they seem to be willing to provide more insight into this, yet the procedure fees are extremely high).

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Posted : 01/31/2010 4:57 pm

I'm just not convinced those are effective stem cell treatments, reading BRD's early contributions to this thread again. He clearly states there are several steps to separate the stem cells from the fat and to activate them before they can be reinjected. Reading his posts it takes days to weeks before the potent stem cells are activated and can be reinjected, if I understood it well. These fat injections enriched with stem cells as described by those cosmetic surgeons in those links take place in a matter of hours. One surgeon states that these stem cell treatments are only approved by the FDA if they take place in one surgery, which would mean the activation of the stem cells would have to take place in a matter of hour(s). I'm just not sure if the stem cell treatments as described in those links (and by, for example, Dr. Giampapa) are mainly a marketing expression for the injection of general fat that - as we know - in itself also contains quite some adult stem cells, but without the actual cultivation and activation of the stem cells.

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Posted : 01/31/2010 7:31 pm

 

 

1. Nourish skin that appears smoothe, brighter & regains its youthful look.

2. Eliminate scars on face by forming new skin cells.

3. Increase collagen and elastin levels and reduce blotchiness.

4. Refine texture glides effectively and slim your face and body with a fat burning effect.

5. Strong anti-oxidant that reduces free radicals and inhibits the aged skin cells.

6. Visibly provide a gorgeous up lifted complexion by reinforcing skinas defenses.

7. Reduce and prevent lines and wrinkles by actively generating new skin cells.

8. Enhance tone for skin that brimming with vitality & energy.

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Posted : 01/31/2010 8:39 pm

I hope that BRD will reply to this thread. Many people are considering this treatment, and it does cost a lot of money. It will be really nice if he can give us a feedback since he's performing it for some time. And i'm sure he saw his patients' results.

 

We are waiting :D

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(@nozleb)

Posted : 02/02/2010 9:32 am

Hi all

I would like to ask BRD if the stem cell were able to regrow a finger as shown on the youtube( ) in ten days then it would be easy to do this for the skin only, by removing 2mm for example from the top of the skin and use that kind of powder.Wouldn't that be possible even for treating enlarged pores??

Please answer me am so upset because of my enlarged/scarred nose pores.

What do you think BRD?:(:(:(:( what are the risks?

 

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(@tennispro2018)

Posted : 02/02/2010 12:33 pm

u guys might find this video interesting..

 

http://www.ted.com/talks/anthony_atala_gro...ing_tissue.html

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(@marko_mne)

Posted : 02/02/2010 5:22 pm

u guys might find this video interesting..

http://www.ted.com/talks/anthony_atala_gro...ing_tissue.html

that is pretty amazing! :clap:

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 02/03/2010 12:04 pm

u guys might find this video interesting..

http://www.ted.com/talks/anthony_atala_gro...ing_tissue.html

Thanks for posting that. It was an interesting watch. The time when regrowing organs is a common thing is apparently still far away then. Quite wondrous that they're actually figuring out how to do so, though. It's kind of mind boggling.

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Posted : 02/04/2010 12:28 am

stem cells is the future for acne scars..

 

 

http://removeacnescarsnow.com/acne-help-ar...cell-injections

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 02/04/2010 8:02 am

Pluripotent stem cells from the umbilical cord? Wow that would be quite a step forward... Very interesting.

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