You're right. I totally forgot about the celution machine... Let's hope it gets approved soon, then.

icaretohelp wouldn't you still have a lot of micro swelling?

Also is there anyway you can post before and afters? Just blot out your eyes or something if you don't want people to see your whole face?

Would be much appreciated to really gauge how successful this technique is

I've followed your journey on this board, Icaretohelp and I know you have had several treatments. What do you think has been the most beneficial for you? Is there anything you think has been a waste and you wouldn't do again?

honestly so far id say my last treatment..the upgraded PRP

what id avoid?? the fraxel repair

i say the upgraded PRP with stem cells combined with microneedling and LED/infra red therapy is the best bet

How much did the upgraded prp cost you ?

...Jerk

icaretohelp, I sent an email to the Harley street clinic asking if he had any colleagues in Australia that may be interested in implementing the above procedures. I never received a response, but maybe you could provide me with the script so that I can discuss with Doctors here?

scars4life..if u had any idea what ive gone through..you would shut your gob..i brought the bloody celution to harley street london..spent all my savings ..im on overdraft because of this.and i dont even live in the UK..ive had to trave back and forth..and prior to this id been travelling the world to get this script accepted by dr;s

seriously

your the jerk here

No need to be so sensitive lol. I think he was joking about you being a jerk in response to your free PRP treatment thats all.

Dun think he meant any harm at all.

which way did dr khan do the upgraded prp on you ? demarol first or after ? did you do the leds at home or does dr khan have a set that he uses straight after he performed the treatment

Hi everyone,

I'm back... First of all I am happy to see that more people are getting this type of treatment. Second, I am happy that icaretohelp, Heidi and others are getting good-to-excellent results from their treatments.

I do however feel that some of you are a being rather harsh towards icaretohelp, who in my opinion has done a great deal for this forum. He has spoken to various doctors around the world about my specific treatment protocol and was able to successfully lobby Dr. Khan to do ADMSC injections on his acne scars. From what I can see, he has even managed to inspire Khan to partially upgrade his PRP according to an enhanced formula I mentioned months ago.

Respect one another and realize that we're all fighting on the same side against a common enemy.

BRD

He lives!!!

And to icaretohelp,

Yeah I didn't mean anything bad, just messing around, no hard feelings?

He lives!!!

And to icaretohelp,

Yeah I didn't mean anything bad, just messing around, no hard feelings?

Hey Scars4Life

Perhaps you were joking around with icaretohelp, but you completely took the piss out of me in your posts. Does that make you feel good? I hope so. I hope I made your day.

For your info, my treatment was good but now that the swelling went away it is not so good . As a result I have quit the job I love to search for treatment, which I NOW refuse to discuss here because I dont deserve negative feedback like yours. My everday is enough grief.

Happy? I hope so.

Ciao

H55

Hi Heidi55,

I want to ask you if Dr. Khan performed ( a ) needling, ( b ) subcision and ( c ) PRP injections before transplanting the ADMSC. As I stated in a post 3 1/2 months ago (page 28, post #551), it is absolutely necessary that this be done, especially ( b ) and ( c ) in order to guide and confine the stem cells to the site of initial inflammation where they integrate themselves into the temporary platelet/coagulated blood scaffold. In other words, I do this in order to stimulate a regenerative response right where there is tissue atrophy. If Dr. Khan is not doing this then hypothetically only a small fraction of the stem cells will perform the specific localized regenerative action we require of them.

Icaretohelp told me that he did get the combined treatment I recommended, albeit not all on the same day (I favour getting all of it done within a 24 hour period in order to get maximal benefit from the concerted action of each procedural component). I don't know if Khan is trying different methods for different patients or if he solely perceives each of the aforementioned components as a standalone procedure that should not be combined into a single holistic treatment. Either way I'm trying to clarify this so that I can better evaluate what's going on here.

If you feel like talking, write me a note. Should you need specific information about my modus operandi I'll be happy to provide it to you.

BRD

I think Scars4lyfe was being tactless and rude in his past few posts, but I don't think he meant anything malicious by it. He is just frustrated, as we all are. Cut him some slack.

Dear icaretohelp,

congratulations to your successful treatment! Maybe this will become an established therapy soon all over the world. Unfortunately I heard therfrom to late - I just spent a lot of money in fraxel treatments and finally cultivating fibroplasts. I hope this will help...

Loulu

Hi Heidi55,

I want to ask you if Dr. Khan performed ( a ) needling, ( b ) subcision and ( c ) PRP injections before transplanting the ADMSC. As I stated in a post 3 1/2 months ago (page 28, post #551), it is absolutely necessary that this be done, especially ( b ) and ( c ) in order to guide and confine the stem cells to the site of initial inflammation where they integrate themselves into the temporary platelet/coagulated blood scaffold. In other words, I do this in order to stimulate a regenerative response right where there is tissue atrophy. If Dr. Khan is not doing this then hypothetically only a small fraction of the stem cells will perform the specific localized regenerative action we require of them.

Icaretohelp told me that he did get the combined treatment I recommended, albeit not all on the same day (I favour getting all of it done within a 24 hour period in order to get maximal benefit from the concerted action of each procedural component). I don't know if Khan is trying different methods for different patients or if he solely perceives each of the aforementioned components as a standalone procedure that should not be combined into a single holistic treatment. Either way I'm trying to clarify this so that I can better evaluate what's going on here.

If you feel like talking, write me a note. Should you need specific information about my modus operandi I'll be happy to provide it to you.

BRD

Hi BRD good to see you back here on the forum ... not to rush you or anything but i was just wondering roughly when i would be able to get those before and after photos of your patients. im trying to get a few derms and hammermith hospital here in the uk to have a look into this treatment for acne scars but it would be much more convincing with photos. thanks

Welcome back BRD i hope you update us with your results and the latest protocol you're following.

v_singh, do you have any letters or a neat document which describes the adult stem cells procedure clearly. I would also like to share it with my dermatologist. I'm not sure if she will be interested or not, but I would like to try. Anyway, let me know please if you or any1 else has something good to share with doctors. Thanks a lot

BRD

He didnt do any of that. PM me as your message if full.

Thanks for your help.

H55

BRD is there anyway you could PM me with the exact steps and procedures involved. I am seeing someone in 2 weeks and would like to provide them with this to see if they would consider implementing it?

Would really appreciate any guidance as I do not want to raise something without really having any idea and right now I could not explain it myself without something set out.

Cheers

BRD is there anyway you could PM me with the exact steps and procedures involved. I am seeing someone in 2 weeks and would like to provide them with this to see if they would consider implementing it?

Would really appreciate any guidance as I do not want to raise something without really having any idea and right now I could not explain it myself without something set out.

Cheers

Dear Bulgarian Doctor,

do you think your recommended therapy would bring other or better results when you use stem cells won from fat? IsnAt the concentration of mesenchymal stem cells in fat higher than in blood?

Thanks for answering, loulu

An update for those considering Stem Cell Treatment... get it done!

It's been almost 2 months since I had my treatment and I'm very pleased with the results. My skin isn't perfect and I still have some red marks but there is a huge improvement to both the look and texture of my skin. Apparently the best results are seen after 3 months but even at this stage I would say it's well worth it. With makeup on I don't even think about/stress over my skin anymore. I'll do a full report in a couple of months with some before and after photos.

A note to someone on here who discredited Dr Khan... his clinic isn't a charity! It's in Harley street so the rent alone on that place must be astronomical. He also has to pay for time spent in hospital for surgery, equipment etc and for the excellent staff he hires. He's got to where he is for a reason. He's damn good at what he does and he does care for his patients, unlike a lot of others who are just in it for the money. That's not to mention the long hours he works including nights and weekends. So I'm glad he gets paid well for what he does. I'd rather pay a higher price to someone with a good success rate and friendly nature than someone who doesn't care and is just interested in money. There's no need to be spiteful. If he wants to use my money to buy a new car then good for him, he deserves it.

I know there isn't that much feedback about the treatment yet but everything I've found on the net has been positive, whereas with other treatments, there will be cases of it not working or actually making things worse. As I said, I'll do a full report in a couple of months but for now I just encourage anyone who's considering it to go ahead and do it.

Hey! Thanks for the update. It's nice to hear that you're happy with your results.

Dostojevski, for those who cannot expect your before-after-photos could you describe the improvement of your skin in advance? What kind of scars changed in which way? Did enlarged pores minimize? Do you think the stem cell treatment can also repigment white scars?

Hi BRD

Could you please PM me. I have the notes of my preocedure that I would like to discuss with you.

My skin was not red after treatment as was the case with the two other patients on this board. In fact I could leave the house immediately after, no prob, except I was puffy. I stayed with a doctor friend after the treament and he even said there were no injection sites other than where the fat was inserted.

So to answer your question there was no:" ( a ) needling, ( b ) subcision and ( c ) PRP injections before transplanting the ADMSC."

Remember, I was one of the very first to get treated so perhaps the doctor was still trying out new procedures. It is all trial and error with these new procedures.

Thanks very much!

Hi Heidi55,

I want to ask you if Dr. Khan performed ( a ) needling, ( b ) subcision and ( c ) PRP injections before transplanting the ADMSC. As I stated in a post 3 1/2 months ago (page 28, post #551), it is absolutely necessary that this be done, especially ( b ) and ( c ) in order to guide and confine the stem cells to the site of initial inflammation where they integrate themselves into the temporary platelet/coagulated blood scaffold. In other words, I do this in order to stimulate a regenerative response right where there is tissue atrophy. If Dr. Khan is not doing this then hypothetically only a small fraction of the stem cells will perform the specific localized regenerative action we require of them.

Icaretohelp told me that he did get the combined treatment I recommended, albeit not all on the same day (I favour getting all of it done within a 24 hour period in order to get maximal benefit from the concerted action of each procedural component). I don't know if Khan is trying different methods for different patients or if he solely perceives each of the aforementioned components as a standalone procedure that should not be combined into a single holistic treatment. Either way I'm trying to clarify this so that I can better evaluate what's going on here.

If you feel like talking, write me a note. Should you need specific information about my modus operandi I'll be happy to provide it to you.

BRD

Hi BRD good to see you back here on the forum ... not to rush you or anything but i was just wondering roughly when i would be able to get those before and after photos of your patients. im trying to get a few derms and hammermith hospital here in the uk to have a look into this treatment for acne scars but it would be much more convincing with photos. thanks

 

Hi v_singh,

If you want my before and after photos then please wait until June of 2010. At that time it will have been a little over a year after performing the procedure I summarised in post #551.