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Hi guys!
I was taking 2g of vitamin b5 for about 30 days and after I noticed my hair falling out I stopped taking the vitamin immediately.
It's been 1 week or so since I'm no longer taking and my hair is still falling.
My acne didnt came back tho but I'm worried. Did your acne come back after stopping taking vitamin b5?
It would be such a disaster that I would have to deal with acne and hair loss.
Hey, sorry to break this for you, but yes at least in my case the acne came back, and seems like this is the case for several people here.
Here are elmechanico last two posts. The first post is from 10/14/1014 so whatever elmechanico is doing, it worked in less than a month!
Post 1 10/14/2014
"...So, convinced I could finally cure my acne, I ordered B5 and started taking it right away. In the space of 1 week I gradually increased my dose until I reached 10g. After around 2 days on 10g I noticed really bad hair shedding when I ran my hands through my hair.
I immediately stopped taking B5(I probably took it for 9 days or so) but the hair loss continued.
In the coming months I noticed that my scalp was always itching really badly and that it was always irritated around the temples. I started taking all kind of supplements(which I still do). I also started regularly applying tea tree and castor oil to my scalp and using Nizoral once a week. Nothing has been able to stop the shedding though.
Well, now most of my scalp and hair feels really good, however my temples look horrible. I have receded around 1cm in a year and they are getting thinner every day. In the places where really thick,luscious hair used to be, now there's only wimpy and thin hair left.
My temples are also constantly inflamed and red and no matter what topicals I use, the irritation never goes away.
For a long time I was convinced I had Telogen Effluvium or some deficiency but I am pretty much sure now that B5 started MPB.
What other condition could cause such rapid hair loss on the temples? I don't know. I also have no other way to explain why only my temples are constantly inflamed/red and flaking.
The thing is there is no MPB history in my family. My father is a NW2 at most at 54 and his temples look thicker than mine!
I have no idea how but somehow B5 must've triggered MPB. It's also the only condition that explains why so many people have never managed to reverse their hair loss despite taking so many supplements. I and a lot of other people have had all kinds of blood tests done but they all came back normal.
If this Colostrum/Potassium Iodide thing doesn't work for you guys, I think I have no choice but to go a dermatologist and ask for Finasteride and Minox.
I don't want to be bald by the time I am 21"
Post 2 10/29/2014
"No real change here, some days my hair and scalp feel great, on others my scalp is still irritated and Im shedding a lot. However, it seems the hair loss and scalp irritation are worse on one side.
I'm still trying to figure out if my scalp is oily or dry and how the topicals affect my condition. I have also started taking Minocycline to cure my acne and maybe clear my scalp of bacteria/fungi.
I have definitely gotten some regrowth, which is good news. Especially on my right temple and at the centre of my hairline there are new hairs and it's looking a lot thicker.
However, my left temple is constantly irritated and shedding quite badly too.
As for my "treatment" right now, I take a lot of supps and eat a balanced diet high in protein and with lots of vitamins. I don't eat or drink processed crap, don't drink coffee or alcohol and also exercise daily. I also apply some topicals to my scalp a few times per week. Im not sure if all this helps."
It appears Elmechanico topical regime consists of tea tree and castor oil to the scalp, and using Nizoral once a week+healthy eating+supplements.
Elmechanico, can you list the supplements you take. This would be easily duplicated by other members since you had regrowth so quickly. Anything else you added that you haven't posted about?
Still having hair loss. Do you think dandruff could be the cause? I never had dandruff before taking B5. The dandruff and hair loss seem to be hand in hand. Anyone?
Have you looked into lamp87 regime? It is posted on page 45 and she is a 27 year old female. (I also quoted it below). My understanding is your shedding only started a few weeks ago in October. Honestly, don't freak out completely. Your hair loss will probably stop in a few weeks because you are female. I only ask you continue to post here so we can see if B5 female hair loss continues or resolves on it's own. The guys on this forum have had hair loss for years, not weeks
>Please Read, something to try! Its helping me.
me- 27 year old white female who took 6-7 G of b5 for just under two weeks before I experienced hair loss. I started mid september, stopped by the end of septemeber. I also took a b complex through out my megadosing.
the other day I read about EVENING PRIMROSE oil and while i was out I noticed a product called "essential woman" by barleans greens. the same day I read about MICONAZOLE NITRATE (anti fungal) being good for growth.
To this day I have taken the "essential woman" product 3 pills twice daily for about 3 days, and I have applied one..application of the mico product.
I dont know which of these is it... but today in the shower I LOST HARDLY ANYTHING. Im talking like.. normal loss.. maybe 15 hairs total. I showered while I conditioned I ran my fingers through my hair, after ward I combed my hair to be sure..
Lamp87, please keep us updated. We really want to know if B5 female hair loss gets cured or not.
I am continuing with my main host of supplements:
hair skin nails formula 2/day
DIM 2/day
evening primrose oil(1000mg) 4-6/day
I add in others as I see fit, but am not consistent with those as I am with the ones above.
I still shed a bit, but like I said, nothing like it used to be. I have applied the Mico/antifungal treatment a total of 3 times. I still am not sure which product has helped the most.
-- has anyone tried EPO/GLA, it is said to help with ALL types of hair loss? I would love to hear feedback so I know if this is my main contributor..or not.
I have read that the "male equivalent" to EPO is Borage Seed Oil. I cant find where I read that, but this is interesting.. http://wholehealthchicago.com/506/evening-primrose-oil/
friends what do we do? itsoveres I continue to drink Propecia?
you are a woman?
in five years you have lost a lot of hair
someone on this forum lose hair more than 5 years
On 10/24/2014 at 7:40 PM, itsoveryes said:On 10/24/2014 at 2:52 PM, Ruman said:I have not heard about the RU ..what is it? it is in Russia??itsoveryesDoctors can not determine the BCH is or just hair loss?I recommend you stay with propecia for 6 months before trying RU. Propecia is FDA approved, RU is not.
Lol.. that doesn't mean jack shit.
Just look at propeciahelp.com forums
Update on my progress:
I have stopped using progesterone months ago.
I had a 400 diode laser helmet made for me by OMG [Removed promotional content]. Been using it for maybe 2 months now, it will take 6months to a year to see regrowth, however so far so good! I think it's making my hair look much better/thicker, healthier! In fact it's looking so much better already I've changed my hairstyle in a way to show off my hair more instead of just using a hairstyle to hide receding hairline.
At worst, the laser helmet (LLLT therapy) should theoretically really help to keep the current hair I have, and make it look and feel much healthier.
At best, it will help with regrowth and I'll see new hairs popping up in a few months.
There is an important 30 month window. Wherein, if you lost hair within 30months, you should be able to get it back, or at least it is possible. If you've lost that hair, more than 30 months ago.. good luck ever getting it back again.
Hope the lasers work better for you then progesterone, keep us updated Mikelev.
Ruman, it best to stay on propecia for at least 6 months to see any results as long as you are fine with side effects. I'm sure the doctor told you all this. Again, if what we have is MPB, the only two scientifically proven medications to treat this condition are propecia and minoxidil. Nizoral helps a little.
These sites will help a lot.
baldtruthtalk.com
hairlosshelp.com
hairlosstalk.com
regrowth.com
Found these, still trying to access full papers. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3500072/
Department of Dermatology and Institute of Hair and Cosmetic Medicine, Yonsei University Wonju College of Medicine, Wonju,]Dr. Hwang's Hair-Hair Clinic, Seoul, Korea
Although integral hair lipid (IHL) plays essential roles in hair morphogenesis and formation of lipid envelop of hair cells, their roles on ultraviolet (UV)-induced photoaging in human hair follicle are poorly understood. In this study, we investigated the photo-degradation of IHL in human hair follicle. Organ-cultured human anagen hair follicles were irradiated with UV, and IHL metabolism was studied. We observed that UV irradiation decreased the free fatty acid contents, but increased the ceramide and sphingomyelin contents. The expressions of genes related to lipid synthesis, including acetyl-CoA carboxylase (ACC), fatty acid synthase (FAS), stearoyl-CoA desaturase (SCD), and sterol regulatory element binding proteins (SREBPs) were also markedly decreased. These results suggest that UV radiation alters IHL in human hair follicle and IHL may play important roles in photoaging of human hair follicle.
Sung Yul Lee, Hannah Hong, Long-Quan Pi, Xinghai Jin, Won-Soo Lee
Department of Dermatology and Institute of Hair and Cosmetic Medicine, Yonsei University Wonju College of Medicine, Wonju, Korea
Integral hair lipids (IHL) are thought to have major roles in structural integrity of hair shaft, and hair biology. However, there are scanty of reports that reveal the importance of integral hair lipids in hair photoaging. Photoaging of hair represent as a change of hair texture and hair photoyellowing in gross spectrum.
This study was aimed to evaluate the change of integral hair lipid caused by acute UVB damage in experimental setting. We collected the normal hair shafts from the healthy volunteers whose hair were not manipulated with various treatments such as hair perm or permanent waving for last 6 months. The hair samples were cut at the level of 4~5cm above from the scalp surface and were separated into two groups; UV treated and untreated group. UV treated hairs were irradiated with UVB lamps for 96 hours in 0.35 mJ energy. After the irradiation, HPTLC and LC-Mass were performed to determine the composition change of IHL. Also, we evaluated the amount of IHL changes according to the age. We defined older and younger age group by older than 40 years and younger than 40 years, respectively.
As a result greater changes appeared in older age group and the main difference was free fatty acid composition. Therefore, we could suggest that hair photoaging may cause decrease of free fatty acids and this change is greater in hair shaft of older age group.
Hope the lasers work better for you then progesterone, keep us updated Mikelev.
Ruman, it best to stay on propecia for at least 6 months to see any results as long as you are fine with side effects. I'm sure the doctor told you all this. Again, if what we have is MPB, the only two scientifically proven medications to treat this condition are propecia and minoxidil. Nizoral helps a little.
These sites will help a lot.
baldtruthtalk.com
hairlosshelp.com
hairlosstalk.com
regrowth.com
Please be careful.
Propecia is a serious drug.
propeciahelp.com forum is full of people who have taken it and are still trying to recover from the drug's horrible side effects. Some side's linger on for years on end with no resolution in sight, even after dosing only a few times for some people.
It is scary stuff.
you are a woman?
in five years you have lost a lot of hair?
someone on this forum lose hair more than 5 years?
Yeah sure thing i'll keep you posted. Thankyou for the suggestions I am already on evening primrose oil and as of today am doing daily massages with argan, tea tree and rosemary oil (desperate much ) I really appreciate you guys on this thread. Makes me feel less shit x
<3
You should order a laser helmet
@MikeLev thanks for the tip, glad it's working for you. I'm a touch broke so if i'm still bad in a month or so I might order one then, have my hopes pinned on tea tree for a few weeks 
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and by the way, since most of you are men on here, something that might help in multiple ways for your skin is acnomel- it's a sulphur based cream. It considers itself 'medicine' so it's not makeup per se, but it happens to be tinted and it blends well in to my pale skin covering the redness of spots. Must say that since I've begun dabbing this on a couple times a day my cystic acne has calmed considerably. Can get it on amazon for a tenner if I remember right, maybe 15. The reviews for it are very strong too.
MikeLev you stop hireloss? How long have you lose your hair?
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@MikeLev thanks for the tip, glad it's working for you. I'm a touch broke so if i'm still bad in a month or so I might order one then, have my hopes pinned on tea tree for a few weeks x
and by the way, since most of you are men on here, something that might help in multiple ways for your skin is acnomel- it's a sulphur based cream. It considers itself 'medicine' so it's not makeup per se, but it happens to be tinted and it blends well in to my pale skin covering the redness of spots. Must say that since I've begun dabbing this on a couple times a day my cystic acne has calmed considerably. Can get it on amazon for a tenner if I remember right, maybe 15. The reviews for it are very strong too.
My acne is completely under control, pretty much a non issue nowdays.
The thing that 'cured' it is 10% sulphur cream I buy off Amazon, it's made by a company called De La Cruz.
Acnomel is OK if you can't get anything else, as it is sulphur based, though only 8%, and it has a known carcinogen in it, Resorcinol. As well, it has alcohol, etc. Not great.
Besides, who cares about acne now anyways.. we're losing hair! No time to worry about acne anymore.
HAIR > ACNE.
lol
There is definitely something going on in relation to colostrum and my hair. I was supposed to experiment with initially ceasing usage of all the supplements and then introducing them again, but unfortunately, i haven't yet reintroduced any of the others beside colostrum.
I ordered the immune tree brand of colostrum 6, and i am having great results with. I'm still not losing hair! I was having such anxiety about ceasing all the supplements, but I now firmly believe that it was the colostrum as opposed to the other supplements. (though this is still early days for a definitive conclusion).
I have not been keeping up with a consistent daily dosage as my schedule has been erratic lately, and I had aimed to constantly take it in the mornings, around 2 full teaspoons, and on a few occasions I had taken it in the late afternoon/early evening, as before, it used to help me sleep, but since i've ceased all the other supplements, I am experiencing a side effect by using the colostrum only, and that is VERY intense vivid dreams when I sleep at night? I wouldn't recommend an evening dosage anymore as my sleep had been quite disturbed.
I have been reading up quite a large amount of research today regarding colostrum, as I'm totally mystified as to how and why it seems to be helping me. So far, the nearest conclusion I have come to, is the hormonal theory. Colostrum (non defatted) is known to contain saturated amounts of hormones (growth hormones etc) and there have been some small trials conducted that state that colostrum balances testosterone levels but also, it contains scant amounts of the hormone estrogen.
I'm now questioning whether the hair loss induced by B5 is related to an increase (or decrease?) in particular hormones.. And somehow, colostrum may very well be balancing these.
When I get more time during the week, I will post a more detailed write up. If anybody has any free time to spare, it would also be very much appreciated if you could look into this also.
Great news Hermetic!
I had a good feeling about colostrum. It doesent say its good for hair.. but it might just be what we need to kickstart the "system". Ofcourse maybe you are already healed and colostrum has nothing to do with it. It could still be any of the other two, or you hade Telogen Effluvium in wich case the hair usually grows back by itself.
For how long did you take b5? How much b5 did you take, grams/day? How long after you began with b5 did your hairloss start? What kind of hairloss did you have(all over head or just the top)?
Thanks for posting and sharing your results. I am ever so grateful.
I have been on colostrum (1 x 500 mg capsule pr day) for about a month now. No changes in hairloss so far.
Thats doesn't sound very promising.
Churchill, how long did you take b5? How much b5 did you take, grams/day? How long after you began with b5 did your hairloss start? What kind of hairloss did you have(all over head or just the top)?
Hows it going for the guys who tried "Raw Thyroid" and "Potassium Iodide"?
Thanks!
I have been on colostrum (1 x 500 mg capsule pr day) for about a month now. No changes in hairloss so far.
Thats doesn't sound very promising.
Churchill, how long did you take b5? How much b5 did you take, grams/day? How long after you began with b5 did your hairloss start? What kind of hairloss did you have(all over head or just the top)?
Hows it going for the guys who tried "Raw Thyroid" and "Potassium Iodide"?
Thanks!
I didn't take any b5, only pantethine, a b5 derivate. Took 900 mgs (suggested intake was 900-1200 mg so thought I was safe) for 10 days, where hairloss started on the 10th and stopped taking it immediately. Hair loss is all over, would say I loose the same amount everywhere, though most noticeable at the temples.
Churchill. Okey. For how long have you been losing hair? If you are losing hair all over (even the sides), it sounds like Telogen Effluvium. 900mg is 1/10 of what I was taking and 10 days is 1/100 of the time. Strange that such small doses for such a short time could damage your hairproduction.
Anyone else on Raw Thyroid, Potassium Iodide or Colostrum?
Churchill. Okey. For how long have you been losing hair? If you are losing hair all over (even the sides), it sounds like Telogen Effluvium. 900mg is 1/10 of what I was taking and 10 days is 1/100 of the time. Strange that such small doses for such a short time could damage your hairproduction.
Anyone else on Raw Thyroid, Potassium Iodide or Colostrum?
Have had hairloss for 2,5 years now. And yes also loose from the sides. So yes it completely baffles me too how that could happen. Pantethine is a lot more potent than b5 though, as it can be seen if you google pantethine and b5. Maybe there could be a clue here, into what specific process triggers the hair loss, I just don't have the biological knowledge to figure that out.