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post #37 of 49 3/29/13 at 3:36pm
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Hello Everyone,
Reading through this post, I recognize many symptoms that I had after taking grams of B5 a day about 4 years ago such as hair thinning on the top of my head, low energy, cold hands/feet, having racing thoughts and being on edge/angry constantly. Like many of you, I had a very hard time figuring out what was going on. I had a blood test done and nothing out of the ordinary was found. I tried to just learned to live with it, but simple labor and schoolwork became very difficult.
Over the last few months I finally have had relief after finding a naturopathic doctor who found that my adrenals were pretty much burnt out. Ive been taking an adrenal supplement for the last few months and have found that energy levels are pretty much back to normal. I can work without hardly any stress and my mood and thoughts have significantly stabalized.
I hope this helps someone who is struggling.
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post #38 of 49 5/16/13 at 7:57pm
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Your taking excess B5 pantothenic acid leads to a biotin deficiencies since they compete for each other on absorption in the colonocytes.This is well known in medical research circles. That is why the hair thinning. But Coenzyme A also competes with other coenzymes such as CoQ10, glutathione, folic acid, and nicotinamide, and that lead to the body becoming deficient in these also, will notice your lowered energy from less CoQ10, but your body's ability to detox, with less glutathione leads to problem of general feelings of sickness despite normal organ functions of the liver. Basically you will take missing Coenyzmes so you won't become deficient, especially biotin, CoQ10, glutathione and B3.
http://chestsculpting.com/progesterone-for-men-the-missing-link-in-man-boob-reduction/
Scientist Ray Peat believes this is good to regrowth hair/stop hair loss.
I ordered this one, the one he invented. http://www.electricalbody.com/product/natural-progesterone-oil.htm
I apply a few dabs of olive oil, then apply few drops of the progesterone oil on tempes and hairline. (olive oil because progesterone oil is very thick due to the high vitamin e content).
Been on this for 2 days now. I am really confident in this approach. Also it is awesome... makes you feel soooo relaxed after you take it. Kills stress. Take it before sleep, because it may make you wanna goto sleep, that's what it does for me, but probably because I was tired anyway and it just relaxed me so much.
There's a LOT of benefits to taking this guys, I urge you to try it with me. I have a great feeling about this.
I bought 2 more bottles last night as well. Gonna try this approach long term and see how it goes. who's gonna try it with me?
INFO:
PROGESTERONE INFORMATION
Raymond Peat, MA, PhD (Univ. of Oregon)
Endocrine Physiologist, specializing in hormonal changes in stress and aging
Sixty years ago, progesterone was found to be the main hormone produced by the ovaries. Since it was necessary for fertility and for maintaining a healthy pregnancy, it was called the "pro-gestational hormone," and its name sometimes leads people to think that it isn't needed when you don't want to get pregnant. In fact, it is the most protective hormone the body produces, and the large amounts that are produced during pregnancy result from the developing baby's need for protection from the stressful environment. Normally, the brain contains a very high concentration of progesterone, reflecting its protective function for that most important organ. The thymus gland, the key organ of our immune system, is also profoundly dependent on progesterone.
In experiments, progesterone was found to be the basic hormone of adaptation and of resistance to stress. The adrenal glands use it to produce their anti-stress hormones, and when there is enough progesterone, they don't have to produce the potentially harmful cortisone. In a progesterone deficiency, we produce too much cortisone, and excessive cortisone causes osteoporosis, aging of the skin, damage to brain cells, and the accumulation of fat, especially on the back and abdomen.
Experiments have shown that progesterone relieves anxiety, improves memory, protects brain cells, and even prevents epileptic seizures. It promotes respiration, and has been used to correct emphysema. In the circulatory system, it prevents bulging veins by increasing the tone of blood vessels, and improves the efficiency of the heart. It reverses many of the signs of aging in the skin, and promotes healthy bone growth. It can relieve many types of arthritis, and helps a variety of immunological problems.
If progesterone is taken dissolved in vitamin E, it is absorbed very efficiently, and distributed quickly to all of the tissues. If a woman has ovaries, progesterone helps them to produce both progesterone and estrogen as needed, and also helps to restore normal functioning of the thyroid and other glands. If her ovaries have been removed, progesterone should be taken consistently to replace the lost supply. A progesterone deficiency has often been associated with increased susceptibility to cancer, and progesterone has been used to treat some types of cancer.
It is important to emphasize that progesterone is not just the hormone of pregnancy. To use it only "to protect the uterus" would be like telling a man he doesn't need testosterone if he doesn't plan to father children, except that progesterone is of far greater and more basic significance than testosterone. While men do naturally produce progesterone, and can sometimes benefit from using it, it is not a male hormone. Some people get that impression, because some physicians recommend combining estrogen with either testosterone or progesterone, to protect against some of estrogen's side effects, but progesterone is the body's natural complement to estrogen. Used alone, progesterone often makes it unnecessary to use estrogen for hot flashes or insomnia, or other symptoms of menopause.
When dissolved in vitamin E, progesterone begins entering the blood stream almost as soon as it contacts any membrane, such as the lips, tongue, gums, or palate, but when it is swallowed, it continues to be absorbed as part of the digestive process. When taken with food, its absorption occurs at the same rate as the digestion and absorption of the food.
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http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/three-hormones.shtml
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On other benefits of natural progesterone
We know that progesterone gives you more energy, we know that progesterone allows you to have better sleep. We know that progesterone allows you to concentrate and focus mentally on things so that you are not affected by peripheral stimuli. We know that progesterone helps digestion of food. We know that it helps the thyroid, we know that it helps energy, we know that it helps the skin; it hydrates the skin-it is a wonderful moisturizer for the skin. We know that it is a natural diuredic. There are studies showing that estrogen is related to auto immune disorders. And now we know, with certainty, that estrogen is the promoter for breast cancer as well as endometrial cancer and in both of those cases, progesterone serves to block that."
http://peatarian.com/14958/has-anyone-read-this-peat-quote-about-progesterone-hair-loss
That was a good read mike I'm very interested in this, I might see how you get on with it first haha but please keep me up to date with the effects and any side effects
Absolutely. Will do!
Considering this:
I have seen my own hairline move with changes in hormones, and in the '70s I gave a progesterone solution to a couple of balding men who started growing hair in the front where it had receded. Since progesterone is a testosterone antagonist, it can cause the penis to shrink, and if DHEA is used with it to counteract that effect, there's the potential in hypothyroid people for the DHEA to be converted to estrogen.
I will dose just on hairline and temples, and maybe bald spot in back, but not gonna take it orally or on tongue/lips anymore. I used to dose in mouth + hairline which may be overdoing it a tad. Either way I am not worried whatsoever about the possible penis shrinking aspect. I will report back with results.
Considering this
"Joe I agree completely, and sorry I left out that detail. Yes, it is mega-dosing, and I realized it for the same reason, for fighting acne. I was also taking an initial dose of 10grams a day for a month, then 5grams a day for another 4-5 months. It helped the acne like no other, but I noticed my hair quality and quantity was reducing dramatically. As for the relationship between the B5, adrenals, and DHEA, it requires some research. But to make a long story short, the B5 gets the adrenals "pumping" and producing more DHEA in our bodies, and we all know DHEA is trouble for our hair. I encourage anyone who is interested to do some research on the web for themselves and piece it all together, I'm not hiding anything (As another hairloss forum accused me of) I just want you to see for yourself to get a better understanding. It's no cure, just a little something helpful. "
doesn't progesterone sound even more interesting now? if that theory is correct in the least.... progesterone will help+++
@mikelev
progesterone has potential feminizing properties, Transsexuals take this hormone. There is a chance it can go systemic even if you are only applying to the scalp. If you are willing to change your hormone profile, you might as well microdose propecia.
Wtf are you talking about??
That is FALSE information.
Completely false.
You must be thinking about something else.
100% false information.
Please no one listen to the info itsoveryes posted, completely 100% false he must be thinking about another hormone/compound.
Can men benefit from progesterone
by Dr. David Smallbone M.B., Ch. B., L.R.C.P., M.R.C.S., M.F.Hom., F.C.O.H.
Introduction
It is important to understand that progesterone is not solely a female hormone. Although in women it is responsible for protecting the unborn child from rejection during pregnancy, progesterone performs many other functions in both men and women. Men™s bodies produce progesterone in the adrenal glands and in the testes, although the amount produced is less than that made by women of menstruating age when they ovulate.
Secondly, it is important for men to know that progesterone has no feminising effects on the male body. In fact, progesterone normally increases libido in men (and in women). However, high doses may inhibit sperm production, and progesterone may, therefore, have a relative contraceptive effect.
Prostate Problems
Benign prostate hypertrophy (BPH), the enlargement of the prostate gland, is a common problem in men over 50. It appears to be due to the failure of cells to die off when their useful life is over. Although benign in itself (apart from the inconvenience), prostate enlargement can develop into cancer of the prostate over time.
The male hormone, testosterone, is not itself in a particularly active form. For full action, testosterone needs to be converted into di-hydrotestosterone (DHT), which is some hundred-fold more active. However, any excess DHT needs to be neutralised or damage may follow, including cancer cell production. Progesterone appears to play two distinctly positive rolls in preventing prostate disease. The first is that progesterone inhibits an enzyme called 5-alpha reductase, which governs the conversion of testosterone to DHT, and thus prevents excess DHT from being produced.
Secondly, progesterone plays a role in reducing the risk of cancer in both men and women. All cells have a definite lifespan and upon reaching that degree of maturity, they commit suicide. This event is known as apoptosis (the second œp is silent). If cells persist beyond their œsell-by date, they are more prone to become cancerous and when they divide the new cells they produce are more likely to be abnormal and potentially cancerous. Both oestrogen and testosterone are cell growth promoters. This is their role. We now know that oestrogen (when unopposed by progesterone) influences the genetic coding in oestrogen-responsive cells and turns apoptosis off - thus the cells live too long, produce too many ˜daughter™ cells and potentially too many mutant cells. It is probable that testosterone has a similar effect on cells.
It has also been shown that progesterone influences the genetic coding in cells in the opposite way, switching apoptosis back on again. When oestrogen and progesterone (and probably testosterone and progesterone) are in balance, cells should die on time and before they produce abnormal progeny.
Although progesterone almost certainly protects men from excessively active testosterone (i.e. DHT), it will also protect men from the toxic xeno-estrogens, now plentiful in the environment and chemicals commonly used in households. In fact, Dr John Lee believed that today™s near epidemic levels of BPH and prostate cancer are due to excessive exposure to these oestrogens. Sources of xeno-estrogens can include commercially raised beef, chicken and pork, spermicide, detergents, soft plastics, pesticides, herbicides, personal care products and even tap water.
Male pattern baldness
The onset of the male pattern of baldness is often governed by hereditary factors. In these cases, there does not appear to be any response to natural progesterone. However, in cases where there appears to be no hereditary tendency, the baldness may be due to over-conversion of testosterone into DHT. In these cases, progesterone seems to help diminish the rate of loss and, sometimes, may help reverse the process.
Osteoporosis in men
Osteoporosis is a disease of both genders. The process is very gradual and shows few symptoms in the early years of its progress. Often the first sign is a loss of height, very commonly quite dramatically and of a significant degree “ up to 3 or 4 inches. The best policy is to pre-empt this occurrence by preventing the onset of osteoporosis.
In women, oestrogens suppress a group of bone cells called osteoclasts, preventing them from re-absorbing bone. A certain amount of re-absorption is necessary, however, because ˜old™ bone becomes brittle and needs replacing, or it is likely to shatter with even a minor impact. Where re-absorption has taken place another group of cells, called osteoblasts, are stimulated to form new bone where the old has been removed. We now also know that osteoblasts have progesterone receptors in their cell walls and that these bone-formers also seem to be stimulated by progesterone. This is why progesterone is thought to be helpful in preventing osteoporosis.
In men, as in women, oestrogen (which men™s bodies also produce) suppresses the osteoclasts, and therefore ultimately also the bone-forming osteoblasts. But testosterone also plays a role in promoting of bone formation, and the laying down of denser bone. It now appears that there are progesterone receptors in men™s osteoblasts too. Thus, in men, when testosterone levels fall later in life, it is possible that bone density can be maintained by the use of progesterone.
As in women, the use of natural progesterone should be started well in advance of potential osteoporosis, for example in late 50s or earlier to prevent onset developing in late 60s and early 70s.
How much progesterone for men?
Men™s bodies produce less progesterone than menstruating women and the dose should therefore be lower. Dr John Lee, who prescribed progesterone for men with BPH and prostate cancer with reported success, recommended that men use 8-12mg of natural progesterone daily.
http://www.npis.info/canmenbenefit.htm
FYI, 4th day on progesterone now I think.. libido is up already! lol. will keep you guys updated. been getting more erections in the day too. and like if I goto the bathroom and just touch it.. heh. (just sayin)
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Low Progesterone Levels
As men age, testosterone levels decline and estrogen levels start to rise. Progesterone levels in men drop sharply as estrogen levels climb, causing symptoms such as low libido, hair loss, weight gain, fatigue, depression, gynecomastia -- enlarged breasts -- erectile dysfunction, impotence, bone loss and muscle loss. Aside from this, men who have low levels of progesterone have a greater risk of developing serious illnesses such as osteoporosis, arthritis, prostatitis and prostate cancer."
To be fair mate I've just googled it and there is reports of it happening, looks like it messes with estrogen and can cause gyno, that's just what I've read tho. I'll research it abit more later.
???
It reduces estrogen.
It FIXES gyno in males.
I have a friend who studies biology who is using it solely for that purpose.. lol
Anything you read about it causing gyno is broscience and not actual science. 100%
To be fair mate I've just googled it and there is reports of it happening, looks like it messes with estrogen and can cause gyno, that's just what I've read tho. I'll research it abit more later.
???
It reduces estrogen.
It FIXES gyno in males.
I have a friend who studies biology who is using it solely for that purpose...lol
It's possible that at one dosage level progesterone has one effect and at another dosage level progesterone has a different effect. Do you or your biologist friend have information on dosing levels?
You said you are putting it on your scalp. How are you planning to monitor the systemic dosage? Are you getting blood tests?
Some info:
Several experiments, dating back to 1966, have demonstrated that pharmacological dosages of progesterone can and do inhibit androgen-dependent sexual behavior in diverse species such as guinea pigs (Connolly & Resko, 1989), mice (Erpino, 1973), quail (Bottoni et al., 1985), ring doves (Erickson et al., 1967), pigeons (Erpino, 1969), monkeys (dis- cussedinBonsalletal., 1990).Syntheticprogestins, suchasmedroxyprogesteroneacetate (MPA) or cyproterone acetate, have even been used clinically on human males to suppress sexual activity for prolonged periods of time (Bradford, 1988; Lehne, 1988). Despite our limited knowledge on the role of progesterone in humans, progestin therapy has been used routinely as a means to control libido in felony sex offenders.
http://www.bio.utexas.edu/faculty/lizard/public/psyneuro.pdf
Haha yeh soz I misread it, the blokes using it to help with gyno but there is a doctor saying is feminizing
Elessarx are you still shedding that is the big question
I'm not sure really, my hair quality is much better, still only shed really short hairs 1cm+~ long and my hair is 3-4 cm now maybe. My scalp still sucks, seb.dermatitis. Itching, flaking etc.
As I said earlier I got no idea if its b1 thats helped.
Here is the plan. I am already talking to my university to see if I can order lab mice. If I am able and this b1doesnt work, I will initiate a kickstarter. (Cost $3000-$5000)
Whatever tests people on this thread believe should be performed will be done, then the mice be be given megadoses of b5. Then they will be tested again to determine any hormonal/nutrient deficient. Then we will attempt to cure their hairloss with supplements/medications. All this will be done via strict scientific standards. We need real science.
I think most guys shaved their head and moved on. I don't know anyone who was cured.
I was thinking just the other day that a kickstarter for this would be a great idea. I would be prepared to put in a large sum of money, I mean it could change my life so it would be more than worth it.
I've stopped the b1 I seemed to start shedding slightly more but I can't be sure, all I know is I'm still shedding, sometimes I pull out 5 hairs in one pull and other times I pull out none. It's so depressing
The peptides u take cause extreme hair loss, i wouldnt take it if i were u...
Id also be interested in knowing every single supplement each of u take as to say how each can affect ur hair...
To be fair mate I've just googled it and there is reports of it happening, looks like it messes with estrogen and can cause gyno, that's just what I've read tho. I'll research it abit more later.
???
It reduces estrogen.
It FIXES gyno in males.
I have a friend who studies biology who is using it solely for that purpose...lol
It's possible that at one dosage level progesterone has one effect and at another dosage level progesterone has a different effect. Do you or your biologist friend have information on dosing levels?
You said you are putting it on your scalp. How are you planning to monitor the systemic dosage? Are you getting blood tests?
Some info:
Several experiments, dating back to 1966, have demonstrated that pharmacological dosages of progesterone can and do inhibit androgen-dependent sexual behavior in diverse species such as guinea pigs (Connolly & Resko, 1989), mice (Erpino, 1973), quail (Bottoni et al., 1985), ring doves (Erickson et al., 1967), pigeons (Erpino, 1969), monkeys (dis- cussedinBonsalletal., 1990).Syntheticprogestins, suchasmedroxyprogesteroneacetate (MPA) or cyproterone acetate, have even been used clinically on human males to suppress sexual activity for prolonged periods of time (Bradford, 1988; Lehne, 1988). Despite our limited knowledge on the role of progesterone in humans, progestin therapy has been used routinely as a means to control libido in felony sex offenders.
http://www.bio.utexas.edu/faculty/lizard/public/psyneuro.pdf
Derp.
"Syntheticprogestins"
Yes.. synthetic versions are absolutely horrible and are NOT to be used whatsoever, I agree.
http://www.pwhobgyn.com/faq/faq.php?12
"What is the difference between Progesterone and Synthetic Progestins (provera or medroxyprogesterone?
Progesterone is a natural hormone made by the adrenal glands and ovaries (and testes in men). Although progesterone and synthetic progestins both prevent proliferation of the uterine lining, they are very different compounds with very different effects in the body.
Progesterone is an integral part of the hormone balance and is a precursor hormone to Cortisol, aldosterone, estrogen, and testosterone. They synthetic progestins have been altered and minute differences in molecular structure convey vastly different biological messages.
Progesterone
Necessary for the survival and development of the embryo
More quickly metabolized
Protects against fibrocystic breast tissues, may protect against breast cancer
Coronary (heart) vasodilator
Increases bone density and stimulates osteoblasts (cells that build bone)
Improves blood lipid profile
Natural diuretic
Natural antidepressant
Helps relieve headaches secondary to estrogen dominance
Normalizes blood glucose levels
Normalizes blood clotting
Increases sex hormone binding globulin, thus decreasing free estradiol
Burns fat for energy
Restores libido
Decreases the risk of ovarian and uterine cancers
Helps stimulate thyroid hormone action
Very claming hormone
Balances estrogen and testosterone
Brain protective
Non patentable
Progestins (Provera)
Increase the risk of early abortiona nd congenital deformities, it is used in the morning after pill
Metabolized more slowly causing side effects
May increase the risk of breast cancer
Constricts coronary vessels, negates the possibly protective effect of estrogen on the heart arteries
Not protective against osteoporosis, long term use can cause decreased bone density
Detrimental effects on lipids (cholesterol/triglycerides)
Fluid retention and edema
Can cause depression
Can cause migraine headaches
Decreases glucose tolerance
Increases thromobotic disorders (example: DVTs)
Decreases sex hormone binding globuling contributing to estrogen dominance
Causes weight gain
Decreases libido
Decreases the risk of ovarian and uterine cancers
Decreases thyroid action (decreases T3 uptake)
Increases anxiety and nervousness
Does not balance estrogen and testosterone and increases hirsutism
Increases the risk of dementia
Patentable...profitable
Progesterone and Provera are two vastly different compounds with different effects in the body. Every cell in the body, including bone, heart, brain, and breasts, have progesterone receptors. Synthetic progestins (provera) are unable to balance the effect of estrogen dominance in the body and even contribute to imbalance. Many physicians feel that progesterone is safe in low doses (physiologic doses) in some breast cancer patients and may also be breast protective."
I've been taking B1 for a week now.
I started at 300mg and have upped the dose to 500mg after 4 days.
I have noticed no negative side effects so far.
The first 6 days my hair noticeably got better. I shedded less and my scalp improved. I did not perform a pull test but I noticed less hair falling out and when I ran a comb through my hair not a single hair were stuck in the comb afterwards whereas there always were before the B1.
Today however, my scalp was really irritated and I shedded a lot more but I think it was due to the shampoo I used(La Roche Posay Kerium DS; my dermatologist recommended it but every time I use it I get acne on my scalp and itching/redness) and due to the fact that I used hair spray these last few days and also drank a lot of alcohol and smoked a lot of cigarettes which I usually never do.
I just washed my hair and checked my hair. It seems thicker and I am starting to see regrowth. I've also started to apply a mixture of Olive, Castor and Tea Tree Oil to my hairline. I am optimistic that my situation will improve and will continue taking the B1.
What really surprised me was the range of other benefits I noticed after taking B1.
These past few months I experienced a lot of strange things in my life. I was constantly stressed out and was plagued by racing thoughts. Although I was always a confident guy, I began to experience strong social anxiety.
From taking the B1 my mood drastically improved, my social anxiety vanished and I am no longer suffering from racing/depressive thoughts all the time.
tw12, how long should I continue to take the B1 and at what dose? I have a doctor's appointment in 1 week where I will get my thyroid/adrenals checked. Anything else I should get checked?
To answer your other question tw12, I am currently taking:
-Omega 3
-Iron(contains B6,B12,Folic Acid,Iron) I have iron deficiency anemia so I have to take iron supplements
-Vitamin B1
Every few days I take Zinc tablets which contain 50mg Zinc, Copper and Calcium and I am considering to take it every day.
Should I add Biotin to my regimen? I am also considering taking Probiotics as I have been taking Antibiotics for my Acne.
Hi everyone,
I stayed up late doing research and this undertaking is very very intense. I'm thinking it might be best to hire a phd biologist who specialized in vitamin toxicity. It will cost significantly more, but there will be a much better chance of actually solving the hairloss. This will probably cost between 50k-100k, but considering we are the top google search term and the number of unique individuals who have commented on this thread, I think we can do it. Let me know your thoughts.
I've been taking B1 for a week now.
I started at 300mg and have upped the dose to 500mg after 4 days.
I have noticed no negative side effects so far.
The first 6 days my hair noticeably got better. I shedded less and my scalp improved. I did not perform a pull test but I noticed less hair falling out and when I ran a comb through my hair not a single hair were stuck in the comb afterwards whereas there always were before the B1.
Today however, my scalp was really irritated and I shedded a lot more but I think it was due to the shampoo I used(La Roche Posay Kerium DS; my dermatologist recommended it but every time I use it I get acne on my scalp and itching/redness) and due to the fact that I used hair spray these last few days and also drank a lot of alcohol and smoked a lot of cigarettes which I usually never do.
I just washed my hair and checked my hair. It seems thicker and I am starting to see regrowth. I've also started to apply a mixture of Olive, Castor and Tea Tree Oil to my hairline. I am optimistic that my situation will improve and will continue taking the B1.
What really surprised me was the range of other benefits I noticed after taking B1.
These past few months I experienced a lot of strange things in my life. I was constantly stressed out and was plagued by racing thoughts. Although I was always a confident guy, I began to experience strong social anxiety.
From taking the B1 my mood drastically improved, my social anxiety vanished and I am no longer suffering from racing/depressive thoughts all the time.
tw12, how long should I continue to take the B1 and at what dose? I have a doctor's appointment in 1 week where I will get my thyroid/adrenals checked. Anything else I should get checked?
To answer your other question tw12, I am currently taking:
-Omega 3
-Iron(contains B6,B12,Folic Acid,Iron) I have iron deficiency anemia so I have to take iron supplements
-Vitamin B1
Every few days I take Zinc tablets which contain 50mg Zinc, Copper and Calcium and I am considering to take it every day.
Should I add Biotin to my regimen? I am also considering taking Probiotics as I have been taking Antibiotics for my Acne.
Did your hair get much softer? Thats what happened to me, my hair before b1 was really hard and brittle, it would lay down all the time. Now after I shower my hair even stands up when its wet.
I also noticed less anxiety and especially better sleep. Before my heart started pumping really fast when I lay down in bed trying sleep, now im more relaxed and can fall asleep faster.
About biotin, ive tried it a few times and had to quit pretty early because it made me breakout bad, so if you are acne prone it might give you more acne. Just sayin
tw12 I am losing more hair now then before I started b1. Especielly at the front of my head where I'v hade the most hairloss before and where it is the most visible. Could this be the beginning of something beautiful or should I quite the b1?
I have no idea, but when people talking about finasteride/minox etc. They say the "weak" hair have to fall out to make room for new healthy hair. It could be replaced with new hair or it could just be bad for you.
Have you noticed any other benefits from b1?
Hi everyone,
I stayed up late doing research and this undertaking is very very intense. I'm thinking it might be best to hire a phd biologist who specialized in vitamin toxicity. It will cost significantly more, but there will be a much better chance of actually solving the hairloss. This will probably cost between 50k-100k, but considering we are the top google search term and the number of unique individuals who have commented on this thread, I think we can do it. Let me know your thoughts.
You should definitely start a kickstarter campaign. It must be more than just us active and all who have written in this thread who suffer from this.
I've stopped the b1 I seemed to start shedding slightly more but I can't be sure, all I know is I'm still shedding, sometimes I pull out 5 hairs in one pull and other times I pull out none. It's so depressing
The peptides u take cause extreme hair loss, i wouldnt take it if i were u...
Id also be interested in knowing every single supplement each of u take as to say how each can affect ur hair...
No it's not the peptides been on them for a while now with no change to my hair what so ever, the b1 has definitely made me shed more and my hairline looks even worse.