Elaine -

have you researched anything into generic Ivermectin? Its used for horses and livestock but with the same active ingredients only at 1.87% and dosed for up to 1250lbs.

I ordered some as its far cheaper than prescribed Soolantra. Im going to take the first dose Friday and obviously I will adjust for my body weight. Hundreds of rosacea sufferers have used this with great success and Ivermectin is noted to be as safe as aspirin. A lot of people even began ingesting it to ward off Covid (debatable if it has that effect).

I will do a one day day, wait three days, dose again, and then wait a week before the 3rd dose. One tube should get me 7 doses across a month. This may or may not work but along with 10% sulfur (topical) Im going to give it a shot. Ive read a lot about Demodex die off where symptoms increase before they finally clear up. So Im expecting something like that to occur.

many online say they have ingested a pinky nail dosage at a time with no ill effects.

it may sound silly but the consensus is that pharmaceutical companies overprice Ivermectin for human use and as long as you dose accordingly, it is the exact same product as Soolantra.

if it does not work, I will look into the two compound practice you outlined above. The issue is getting a dermatologist on board with it since this is a relatively rare occurrence and seemingly nobody wants to listen to patients who have done their homework.

22 hours ago, Redwine said:

Elaine -

have you researched anything into generic Ivermectin? Its used for horses and livestock but with the same active ingredients only at 1.87% and dosed for up to 1250lbs.

I ordered some as its far cheaper than prescribed Soolantra. Im going to take the first dose Friday and obviously I will adjust for my body weight. Hundreds of rosacea sufferers have used this with great success and Ivermectin is noted to be as safe as aspirin. A lot of people even began ingesting it to ward off Covid (debatable if it has that effect).

I will do a one day day, wait three days, dose again, and then wait a week before the 3rd dose. One tube should get me 7 doses across a month. This may or may not work but along with 10% sulfur (topical) Im going to give it a shot. Ive read a lot about Demodex die off where symptoms increase before they finally clear up. So Im expecting something like that to occur.

many online say they have ingested a pinky nail dosage at a time with no ill effects.

it may sound silly but the consensus is that pharmaceutical companies overprice Ivermectin for human use and as long as you dose accordingly, it is the exact same product as Soolantra.

 

if it does not work, I will look into the two compound practice you outlined above. The issue is getting a dermatologist on board with it since this is a relatively rare occurrence and seemingly nobody wants to listen to patients who have done their homework.

Oral Ivermectin is typically prescribed as a once a week dose based on body weight. Typically prescribed as 2 doses, each dose takena week apart. First dose kills living adult mites but has no effect on any eggs. Takes the eggs about 2-3 days to hatch. Takes any juvenile "nymphs" about 6 days to mature to breeding adults. That is when the second weekly dose kicks in to kill anything that hatched after the first dose killed the events. Doctors do warn that taking horse paste internally has not been tested for safety in humans.

Many people have reported great success in using Horse Paste topically. Horse Paste at $5-$7 per small tube. Its way cheaper than prescription Soolantra at $500-$600 per tube. The Horse Paste is 1.87% Ivermectin vs. Soolantra with 1% Ivermectin. When used topically, it is best to use it at night applied to clean skin. The mites are active at night. The Rosacea forums have more info:

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Another topical option is Hypochlorous (HOCL) Acid Face Spray. This is a weak but highly potent acid created by the human body in response to infection. HOCL kills demodex in the juvenile nymph form reducing the population of demodex over time. HOCL kills bad bacteria, fungus and viruses while not harming "good" bacteria on human skin. It has zero safety warnings. HOCL kills COVID on contact and has been tested to kill 99.9% of at least 23 different strains of bad bacteria. It also kills fungus. Hospitals and medical offices use HOCL to sanitize operating rooms, ICUs etc. HOCL can be used nightly after washing face. Spray on and lightly massage liquid into skin including eyelids. HOCL is non-irritating and should knock out mostother potential sources of infection from bacteria, fungus and viruses.

There are a number of good brands of HOCL face sprays available from Amazon: I've used Heydrate, Occusoft's Hypochlor and currently I'm using Briotech Face Spray. All of the mentioned brands are good, Briotech is simply less expensive. Briotech is the brand recommended by Tattoo Artists and Piercers to help their clients heal up clean.

https://www.amazon.com/BRIOTECH-Topical-Skin-Spray-Hypochlorous/dp/B07T4JKMKD/

Just ordered some Briotech also. Thanks for the information. Between the horse paste, Briotech, 10% sulfur and Oust Demodex PEG-80/Tea tree oil wipes, Im excited to see this resolved.

of course fingers crossed this will work.

You do water restoration, working with mold? Is that when your symptoms started? Just something I am dealing with.

I dont think Dermatologist are going to be able to help us really...
I believe this is a Viral Parasite of a Pinworm Cyst type mutation...  1/3 of the worlds population has them 1 in 10 adult have them and 90% of people have no symptoms...

Look up "Toxoplasma" here is an image of a cell ; when compared to the ones often plucked from what is called an "oocyst" it looks very much like the depicted diagram... 
In other words if this is in fact a parasite; a dermatologist can not help you; we need to see a  Infectious Disease Physician for Parasites...

Here is a link to some other brief information on Parasites...
https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/condition/intestinal-parasites  

Just compare the Diagram to what some have actually remove from the "oocyst" areas...

On 5/25/2021 at 9:27 PM, ElaineA said:

Oral Ivermectin is typically prescribed as a once a week dose based on body weight. Typically prescribed as 2 doses, each dose takena week apart. First dose kills living adult mites but has no effect on any eggs. Takes the eggs about 2-3 days to hatch. Takes any juvenile "nymphs" about 6 days to mature to breeding adults. That is when the second weekly dose kicks in to kill anything that hatched after the first dose killed the events. Doctors do warn that taking horse paste internally has not been tested for safety in humans.

Many people have reported great success in using Horse Paste topically. Horse Paste at $5-$7 per small tube. Its way cheaper than prescription Soolantra at $500-$600 per tube. The Horse Paste is 1.87% Ivermectin vs. Soolantra with 1% Ivermectin. When used topically, it is best to use it at night applied to clean skin. The mites are active at night. The Rosacea forums have more info:

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Another topical option is Hypochlorous (HOCL) Acid Face Spray. This is a weak but highly potent acid created by the human body in response to infection. HOCL kills demodex in the juvenile nymph form reducing the population of demodex over time. HOCL kills bad bacteria, fungus and viruses while not harming "good" bacteria on human skin. It has zero safety warnings. HOCL kills COVID on contact and has been tested to kill 99.9% of at least 23 different strains of bad bacteria. It also kills fungus. Hospitals and medical offices use HOCL to sanitize operating rooms, ICUs etc. HOCL can be used nightly after washing face. Spray on and lightly massage liquid into skin including eyelids. HOCL is non-irritating and should knock out mostother potential sources of infection from bacteria, fungus and viruses.

There are a number of good brands of HOCL face sprays available from Amazon: I've used Heydrate, Occusoft's Hypochlor and currently I'm using Briotech Face Spray. All of the mentioned brands are good, Briotech is simply less expensive. Briotech is the brand recommended by Tattoo Artists and Piercers to help their clients heal up clean.

https://www.amazon.com/BRIOTECH-Topical-Skin-Spray-Hypochlorous/dp/B07T4JKMKD/

 

 

Elaine -

one more question; any advise on NOT using the Ivermectin topically and also ingesting a dose once a week? How often topically? I dont see how it could hurt to use topically and ingest on the same day but just curious.

1 hour ago, Redwine said:

Elaine -

one more question; any advise on NOT using the Ivermectin topically and also ingesting a dose once a week? How often topically? I dont see how it could hurt to use topically and ingest on the same day but just curious.

Topically, it should be applied once every night after washing face. You can use it after applying the HOCL face spray and letting the HOCLdry first. The mites are active at night, so before bed is the best time to use topical ivermectin. Soolantra is usually prescribed for no more than 16 weeks. The mites life cycle is 2 to 3 weeks. Nothing is known to be effective at killing the eggs they lay. It takes multiple lifecycles of topical treatmentto reduce the breeding population.

I've never heard of any limitation of taking the oral ivermectin and also using it topically. Typically, doctors prescribe one treatment or the other.

Thank you. Thats sort of my dilemma - do I use the tube I have coming topically or ingest it? Im not sure which would be more effective.

and if used topically, how much? I dont see the cream/gel lasting very long if I use it all over my face. Even if my problem areas are just my nose, wouldnt I need to apply it to the brows and cheeks and all over where Demodex generally reside and cause issue? Will I not take down the population if I just apply topically to my problem area?

1 hour ago, Redwine said:

Thank you. Thats sort of my dilemma - do I use the tube I have coming topically or ingest it? Im not sure which would be more effective.

 

and if used topically, how much? I dont see the cream/gel lasting very long if I use it all over my face. Even if my problem areas are just my nose, wouldnt I need to apply it to the brows and cheeks and all over where Demodex generally reside and cause issue? Will I not take down the population if I just apply topically to my problem area?

I believe that if used topically, a small amount should be applied thinly to the entire face. It doesn't need to be a thick application to work, a thin layer is all you need. The mites are mobile at night. The mitesmight just move off the nose and spread if the noseis the only place treated. The Horse Paste tubes are small since they don't contain the cream base that Soolantra has. Its also stronger at 1.87% ivermectin versus Soolantra's 1.0% Ivermectin. Galderma posted an article once that said Soolantra used their Cetaphil moisturizer as a base.

Back with a bit of an update. So the Sulfur topical and the HOCL both seem to be excellent at purging my pores of gunk. I guess that is typically what they do but I havent read much on that specifically, I just notice that after I spray with HOCL or I use the sulfur, within minutes the filament/sebum/whatever is sticking out of the pores prominently. So much so that a gentle squeeze will remove them. Yesterday I was amazed at how clear my skin looked and the pores were all empty.

still having some issues though, and that is when I went to gently squeezing areas of my nose today, I noticed a few hard to extract, very small filaments or whiteheads, sebum, whatever you want to call them. I was able to finally get the elusive bastard, but in doing so I noticed the skin once again moisten up in that one little spot, or expel fluid from under the skin. The white spot comes up and onto my fingernail but so does a small layer of skin surrounding the area. The underlying skin is immediately a darker red than the rest of my nose. After so many times of seeing this happen, I can conclusively say that whatever these white spots are, whatever is going on under the immediate surface surrounding them is damaging tissue. I dont know if its fungal or Demodex or what, but this is the common factor in every lesion I get. A small bit of skin in that immediate spot essentially molts or very easily peels off. That leaves the ulcer/crater/erosion that then must take a week or so to scab up, moisten up due to humidity, scab up again, repeat until its healed enough where it begins to peel by itself and then I can remove it. The underlying skin upon removal is faintly off color to the rest of my healthy skin but not enough to raise a fuss over as its not noticeable enough.

elaine, anybody else... an idea of what this is? I am still early into my Ivermectin, HOCL, sulfur treatment. And so far Im liking the results. But Im dismayed that one little squeeze at a stubborn white spec can restart the process all over again. I know this is on me for squeezing in the first place, and I plan to just completely STOP touching my face. But still, this is evidence enough that SOMETHING is going on with my skin and I have not explicitly read any anecdotal evidence that Demodex causes this very specific process in skin damage/healing that I keep going through. Is it possible Im misdiagnosing myself? Does it sound like something anybody has experienced before? Is it a rare undiscovered skin disease?

its so frustrating not knowing WHAT EXACTLY it is. I currently have a topical dose of Ivermectin slathered on my nose right now and I will sleep with it through the night. Hopefully in the morning the new lesion is lesser than it was earlier when I woke it for lack of a better word.

14 hours ago, Redwine said:

Back with a bit of an update. So the Sulfur topical and the HOCL both seem to be excellent at purging my pores of gunk. I guess that is typically what they do but I havent read much on that specifically, I just notice that after I spray with HOCL or I use the sulfur, within minutes the filament/sebum/whatever is sticking out of the pores prominently. So much so that a gentle squeeze will remove them. Yesterday I was amazed at how clear my skin looked and the pores were all empty.

still having some issues though, and that is when I went to gently squeezing areas of my nose today, I noticed a few hard to extract, very small filaments or whiteheads, sebum, whatever you want to call them. I was able to finally get the elusive bastard, but in doing so I noticed the skin once again moisten up in that one little spot, or expel fluid from under the skin. The white spot comes up and onto my fingernail but so does a small layer of skin surrounding the area. The underlying skin is immediately a darker red than the rest of my nose. After so many times of seeing this happen, I can conclusively say that whatever these white spots are, whatever is going on under the immediate surface surrounding them is damaging tissue. I dont know if its fungal or Demodex or what, but this is the common factor in every lesion I get. A small bit of skin in that immediate spot essentially molts or very easily peels off. That leaves the ulcer/crater/erosion that then must take a week or so to scab up, moisten up due to humidity, scab up again, repeat until its healed enough where it begins to peel by itself and then I can remove it. The underlying skin upon removal is faintly off color to the rest of my healthy skin but not enough to raise a fuss over as its not noticeable enough.

 

elaine, anybody else... an idea of what this is? I am still early into my Ivermectin, HOCL, sulfur treatment. And so far Im liking the results. But Im dismayed that one little squeeze at a stubborn white spec can restart the process all over again. I know this is on me for squeezing in the first place, and I plan to just completely STOP touching my face. But still, this is evidence enough that SOMETHING is going on with my skin and I have not explicitly read any anecdotal evidence that Demodex causes this very specific process in skin damage/healing that I keep going through. Is it possible Im misdiagnosing myself? Does it sound like something anybody has experienced before? Is it a rare undiscovered skin disease?

 

its so frustrating not knowing WHAT EXACTLY it is. I currently have a topical dose of Ivermectin slathered on my nose right now and I will sleep with it through the night. Hopefully in the morning the new lesion is lesser than it was earlier when I woke it for lack of a better word.

The general Google Consensus is that clear fluid coming out may just be edema. That is just some fluid that collected around the area due to redness or swelling caused by the debris blocking the pore. The hole is just the space left which was filled with debris. Takes a while for that to shrink back up.

HOCL and Sulphur both are used to treat bacteria, fungus and/or demodex. The fact that you are seeing clearer pores after using these products is an excellent sign that one or both products are working very well. I would definitely advise you to keep using them until your skin is clear.

Without scientific test results, its hard to say whether what you have is caused by bacteria, fungus or demodex or a combination thereof. Bacterial or fungal infections may occur independently of, or at the same times as a demodex skin mite overpopulation. It is strongly believed that if large numbers of demodex are present, that the demodex track bacteria and/or fungus around the skin and back down into the pores spreading and making those infections worse.

If the cause is demodex, you may start to see a die off after using the Ivermectin (either topical or oral) after several days of use. Die offs are just pustules with puddles of disintegrating dead mites, generally no major bacterial pus. If use the topical Ivermectin for up to 2 weeks and still see no die offs, then demodex may not be the issue. The die off pustules may be tiny and/or larger white pustules depending on the number of demodex. If you see die offs, keep using the Ivermectin, it sounds like its helping. Dermatologists recommend using Soolantra Topical (1% Ivermectin) for 16 weeks. Repeated use through at least 2-3 mite life cycles is recommended at a minimum since nothing kills the mite eggs. You have to keep treating for mites to kill the egg hatchlings. The demodex skin mite life cycle is estimated at 2 to 3 weeks.

Rosacea Subtype 2 with papules has been strongly associated with large numbers of Demodex skin mites. Since not everyone with rosacea has visibly red skin, the condition can be misdiagnosed as ordinary acne. Although anyone can have at least some demodex without having rosacea or acne. Recent research in Rosacea Subtype 2 indicates that the underlying cause of the skin issues for many is a Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO). SIBO occurs when bacteria from the colon gets backed up into the small intestine due to structural issues, surgery, etc. SIBO can cause bouts of abdominal cramping, gas, bloating, constipation, diarrhea, nausea, malnutrition, unintended weight loss etc.

Thank you again for the latest batch of information. You are extremely helpful and it is appreciated.

I consulted with a doctor through an online visit yesterday and she suspects it is a Staphylococcal infection since my sores appear close to the nostrils. I was able to get two big prescriptions today: mupirocin 2% and oral Metronidazole which you (Elaine) referenced in your posts above. I was originally prescribed a one week dose but I shared information on the life cycle of Demodex (thanks to you), and she upped it to two weeks at 3 times a day. She warned about drinking alcohol while using it but beyond that, had absolutely no reservations.

i will continue to do the following:

Oral dose of Ivermectin every 5 days

topical Ivermectin nightly

sulfur 10% treatment every 2-3 days

HOCL facial spray3-4 a day

Mupirocin 2% topically 3x day for 10 days

oral Metronidazole 3x day for 14 days

Permethrin 5% topical

Adapalene gel .1-.3%

NOT PICK AT MY FACE

If this doesnt put a stop to my skin issues I will need to really discuss with somebody on what else it could be or how to go about treatment.Im cautiously optimistic about my chances of successful treatment and I will continue to post updates. I am not sure that this is Staphylococcal like she suggested but Im completely fine with trying the mupirocin and finding out!

elaine - would you recommended the topical Ivermectin for 16 weeks regardless of whether I stop the other aforementioned treatments much sooner? I dont think Ill ever stop using the HOCL or sulfur again as it really does seem to be AMAZING for my skin. But the prescription medications I may not continue to pursue beyondmy initial cycles.

FINGERS CROSSED!

19 hours ago, Redwine said:

Thank you again for the latest batch of information. You are extremely helpful and it is appreciated.

 

I consulted with a doctor through an online visit yesterday and she suspects it is a Staphylococcal infection since my sores appear close to the nostrils. I was able to get two big prescriptions today: mupirocin 2% and oral Metronidazole which you (Elaine) referenced in your posts above. I was originally prescribed a one week dose but I shared information on the life cycle of Demodex (thanks to you), and she upped it to two weeks at 3 times a day. She warned about drinking alcohol while using it but beyond that, had absolutely no reservations.

 

i will continue to do the following:

Oral dose of Ivermectin every 5 days

topical Ivermectin nightly

sulfur 10% treatment every 2-3 days

HOCL facial spray3-4 a day

Mupirocin 2% topically 3x day for 10 days

oral Metronidazole 3x day for 14 days

Permethrin 5% topical

Adapalene gel .1-.3%

NOT PICK AT MY FACE

 

If this doesnt put a stop to my skin issues I will need to really discuss with somebody on what else it could be or how to go about treatment.Im cautiously optimistic about my chances of successful treatment and I will continue to post updates. I am not sure that this is Staphylococcal like she suggested but Im completely fine with trying the mupirocin and finding out!

 

elaine - would you recommended the topical Ivermectin for 16 weeks regardless of whether I stop the other aforementioned treatments much sooner? I dont think Ill ever stop using the HOCL or sulfur again as it really does seem to be AMAZING for my skin. But the prescription medications I may not continue to pursue beyondmy initial cycles.

FINGERS CROSSED!

If you don't see any die offs in the first 2 weeks, then you could discontinue the topical Ivermectin. Oral Ivermectin is likely to be faster and more effective than topical Ivermectin. For Oral Ivermectin is usually prescribed as2 once a week doses as aminimum (one dose a week for 2 weeks). I have heard of a few dermatologist who prescribe it for 2, 4, or 6 weeks as a once a week dosage. Most doctors prescribe Ivermectin as either oral or topical. Using it topically for a short time should at least kill off any survivingdemodex on the skin's surface a bit more quickly as the new eggs hatch between doses of the oral ivermectin.

Take the Oral Metronidazole with food. Definitely no alcohol while taking Metronidazole or for 72 hours after the last tablet. Alcohol + oral Metronidazole has unpleasant side effects.

Good Luck!

On 5/21/2021 at 5:31 PM, ElaineA said:

The antibiotic Doxycycline is commonly prescribed for patients with Rosacea. At first, Doxycycline may help clear any secondarysurface skin infections caused by Bacillus Oleronus ssociated with demodex skin mites in 40% of cases. Doxycycline doesn't typically work on the underlying SIBO infection.

I would like to add to thisthat doxycycline - in case of dry eye - will help rather as an anti-inflammatory agent rather than tackling the bacterial infestation/infection, as you indeed mentioned.

If I am not mistaken, the doxycycline will lower the inflammation. Thishelps against the,by the inflammation (swelling of blood vessels)constricted, glands that thereby don't express sebum correctlyto which the glands gets plugged. This can lead to dry eye, or for e.g. glands on your scalp to dandruff (bacteria and parasites feasting on this excess of stuck sebum in the gland, which plugs the gland and thus constricts the gland to function properly). It's a cascading cycle, andgood functioning glands are needed in order to stop it.

It's not always clear if this cycle is caused by the inflammation, or the inflammation is caused by the debris from the parasites (e.g. demodex) and bacteria or other causes. This is why I am very intrigued by the oral Ivermectin and Metronidazole, that tackles the latter rather than the inflammation.

"Topical antibiotics, such as azithromycin, or systemic antibiotics, such as doxycycline or azithromycin, can improve MGD symptoms both by altering the ocular flora and through anti-inflammatory mechanisms."

source:Current and Emerging Therapeutic Strategies for the Treatment of Meibomian Gland Dysfunction (MGD)

Wow I'm in tears right now. I am 42 year old woman and have had this exact problem since I was 12/13 years old. I have scar's on my back, shoulder's and my face from these nasty things. I have tried EVERYTHING I'm relieved to not be alone anymore. I am at my wit's end with this. Please tell me this can be fixed or helped.

So Im dismayed but optimistic. My symptoms havent really presented in the way they normally do, with the combination of sulfur cream, Hypochlorous acid, tea tree wipes, Mupirocin and Ivermectin. But the itching still comes and goes and my skin seems very easily disrupted/agitated. What I mean is that it will easily show as scaly/flaky with the slightest agitation. I also have a flaky spot at the corner of my nasal passage that was healed at one point, but will spontaneously show back up as unhealed. Its so wild how the skin seems to alter form and presentation almost in real time. Ive still pushed out tiny silver/clear barbed/tear shaped things for lack of a more accurate term. No idea what they are but they are not sebaceous filament.

I also had a deep tissue pimple that was sore on my nose. My first thought was it was the infection/whatever this is rising to the surface and finally being killed off. When I pushed at the area, I had 6 or 7 very large extractions push up through the skin. This was relieving and seemed to be the appropriate course of action. The skin in the area however did the predicted molting or desquamation and left an unsightly, mangled surface. I think the Hypochlorous acid helped heal it quickly, but almost too quickly as its left a pronounced pink area of skin that isnt highly noticeable but still off color to the rest of my nose. I even had somebody comment on it over the weekend. The skin in this area gets white and flaky and I can easily, very easily, peel off these outer layers almost like a sunburn and reveal clean skin that is newly pinkish. In a day or so, however, it scales again and looks better having peeled off. Im not sure how long this process will take to heal but Im hoping not long, and that it isnt a permanently altered color due to rapid healing from Hypochlorous Acid. Hard to know but time will tell.

I couldnt take Metronidazole immediately after receiving it due to being in situations where alcohol would be involved. I just began taking my 14 day bottle yesterday, 500mg 3x day. Im crossing my fingers that this will really knock out whatever infection I have.

again, the itching is still prevalent but all in all, my skin is in a much better spot than before I began treatment methods such as suggested by Elaine in this thread. If by the end of the Metronidazole this has not resolved, Im left with no choice but to see a good dermatologist to determine whether they even have a semi-accurate diagnosis.

i am ruling out Demodex since this really hasnt spurred a die off phase. But who really knows. There are dozens and dozens of different skin conditions online that show pictures closely resembling what Im dealing with. Its truly hard to know which is accurate to my condition and which isnt. Im hoping a Dermatologist or Dr will be able to take samples of the white extractions/skin/blood tests/whatever to really tell me what this is.

Another update: skin looking better than it has in forever. Yesterday I spent an hour plucking the little fine Vellus hairs at the tip of my nose. Sounds funny, I know, but I think there is a correlation between the over abundance of fine hairs (Ive noticed more prominently over the course of these issues) and the outbreaks.

I dont know if its a form of vellus cystic acne, or fungal issues that are agitated by the vellus follicles/vice versa, or if anybody knows whether these fine hairs rapidly grow in response to any known skin condition, or if their over production can cause skin issues, etc.

Either way, my skin looks amazing relative to any other time in the past year and a half. I dont want to get ahead of myself because Ive felt confident this resolved before and was heartbroken when it wasnt. If nothing else it may have been the appearance of the fine hairs that really drew my eye in to my skin issues, or maybe exaggerated how bad they were, or perhaps they really do need to be plucked to help clean up whatever this is. I really have no clue but all I can say is that Im happy right now.

the only faint trace of any blemish is the aforementioned spot from my previous post where I had a blind pimple that I squeeze at and caused skin desquamation. It is healed like I said, but still slightly pink. So I have a faintly off color spot at the bridge of my nose and I hope over time it fades.

again, not getting too far ahead of myself. Ill continue taking the metronidazole for another full week. Fingers crossed guys!

Dermatologist can NOThelp us..!!!
I believe this is a Viral Parasite of a Pinworm Cyst type mutation...

1/3 of the worlds population has them 1 in 10 adult have them and 90% of people have no symptoms...

Look up "Toxoplasma"; when compared to the ones often plucked from what is called an "oocyst" it looks very much like depicted diagrams...
In other words if this is in fact a parasite; a dermatologist can not help you; we need to see anInfectious Disease Physician for Parasites...

Here is a couple links to some information on these Parasites...
https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/condition/intestinal-parasites

https://www.waterpathogens.org/book/toxoplasma-gondii

I wish there was a Home Remedy for this too; but unless someone figures out what this is exactly with the right tests; all a Dermatologistis going to do is keep guessing..!

I have suffered for over 25 years with these white grains. My face is scarredfrom trying to get them them out. I recentlyfound a product that is working for me. This after decadesof doctor,dermatology and plastic surgery visits that did not help at all. I had given up all hope.

I bought Derma ESulfur Spot Treatment. With one application, I noticed results. The white cores were coming out and the inflammation was reduced. Its inexpensive and worth a try.

Ill second Pugahoy on the sulfur. That seems to have made the biggest impact on my face.

Ive been over a week and a half with no new lesions/spots. The itching and redness seems to almost be non existent at this point, even so much so that I forget I ever had the issue. Ive actually been forgetting to take the Metronidazole at the appropriate times because this isnt constantly on my mind anymore. (I still take the pills, just change dosage time for missed windows). Ill wrap up the Rx in two days.

Again, Ive felt overly confident before and been wrong. So I hope Im not but Ill cautiously say that I think this might be cleared and Ill attribute it to two things:

the sulfur ointment, and tweezers. I bought a very nice pair of angled tweezers and plucked virtually all of the larger visible vellus hairs on my nose. Gut feeling tells me the over abundance of hair was caused by whatever this was, perhaps folliculitis or fungal. But removing them instantly made my skin smoother to the touch and just overall seemed to make my face look problem clear. The sulfur ointment upon rinsing seems to purge the pores of any sebaceous filament / keratin / white/clear plugs/stems. And lastly I wont count out the metronidazole as that may have played a huge role over the last two weeks but I cant definitively say.

what I can say is that the Hypochlorous acid did not seem to heal the problem, but it didnt hurt either. The Ivermectin and Demodex wipes, meh. I dont think this is a Demodex issue after not seeing a die-off phase. But again, I dont know for sure and I cant say with certainty what has truly solved this for me.

If it is solved, to be clear. But even if you dont have this issue or something similar, I highly suggest the sulfur ointment. I use De La Cruz 10% sulfur. Ive read nothing but great things and obviously, Im a fan from first hand experience. Ill use it for the rest of my life whether this problem is truly gone for good or not. It is that awesome.

I have eczema and I was slathering on lotions and potions galore. You can get occlusion folliculitis, which Im positive I had. I gave me skin a break, only washing it with water and then applying a toner of watered down apple cider vinegar. Thats it! My skin seemed extremely dry at first, DO NOT putlotions or anything on your skin. You might notice some peeling but give it 2 weeks and see if you notice any results.

I've been dealing w/ the same "oocyst" on my arm in the same spot for going on 3 years now... Im CONVINCED it is in fact an INTESTIAL PARASITE at this point; most likely a PINWORM INFESTATION..!!!

After reading more on these "Toxoplasma" parasites; Im almost certain that is what these "fleshy white plugs" are... If you read the information the way it works is that Cats spread it to humans; then it lives in our intestines over time in finds its way into other places/cells ie skin, heart, brain, eyes, etc and it turns into an "oocyst"; the "oocyst" part is meant to keep infecting the blood stream so that your lungs produce spores to also spread the infection to others...

If you have had these things on your skin for years; eat a bunch of chicken tonight and then inspect your feces over the next day or two (if your bowel movements are right) for Very Tiny White Worms -maybe 2mm long- if you have good medical health care coverage its as simple as asking your Doctor to do a "Tape test" or stool sample...

Here is a study on the CONNECTION between the Intestinal Parasite & Skin Issues...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12561678/

On 5/28/2020 at 9:35 PM, Weird lession said:

Wow, it is very interesting theory.

1) Haschemo cream healed the lession totaly? How fast?

2) What'sthe title ofchemo cream?

3) Any side effects orpain?

1( It helped but still had to have them surgery to remove the one in my chin even after that came out because it was r healing on its own and was so deep

2)Efudex cream

3) the chemo cream had horrible side affects makes your skin fall off on affected areas. Had a bad reaction to the sun while I was on it and kind ofjust ached and was tired while using it but it worked not a fun process but at least all the white plugs came out at once and it would have healed in its own but the one on my chin I had had for 3 years but it cleared the smaller ones up after 2 weeks about

I waited to come here and write until my wounds healed, because I needed to reassure myself that what Im about to say is most likely true.

These white plugs are apart of the healing process. The stinging, sharp, burning feeling they cause that makes you want to gouge them out is the feeling of your skin being infected. You have an infected wound. You wont stop picking at it, for hours on hours, days and days. You validate reasons as to why you NEED to pick at it or clean it or get rid of all the plugs but all you are doing is self harming. You are not a doctor, you are not a surgeon. It took me a lot of doctor visits and painful hours of bloody paper towels and time locked away in the bathroom trying to FIX my wound. How ever the wound was brought on (acne, bug bite, scabies (my situation) or any other infection) the point is YOU havent left it alone! Your idea of leaving it alone is NOT the same as a medical professional. People really need to stop blaming anti biotics, and throwing fungal diagnoses everywhere. Anti bitotics saved my skin from spreading infection to other places in mybody. Cover the wound, clean it by patting it dry, do not RUB it, and complain that you feel it hurts and need to remove the plugs! Of course it hurts its an open wound!! You need to tell yourself that your pain sensations are going overload, LEAVE it alone, the pain will subside as it heals.

its not easy to admit you have a slim picking disorder, but once you do you can really start healing. I spent a lot of money and time wasted on forums talking about this issue, when all I had to do was take the antibitotics, leave it alone, clean and dress it,and stay the hell OUT of the mirror. Period.

I wish you all the best, but someone here has to say something.

On 7/8/2021 at 1:50 PM, Mamashark said:

I waited to come here and write until my wounds healed, because I needed to reassure myself that what Im about to say is most likely true.

These white plugs are apart of the healing process. The stinging, sharp, burning feeling they cause that makes you want to gouge them out is the feeling of your skin being infected. You have an infected wound. You wont stop picking at it, for hours on hours, days and days. You validate reasons as to why you NEED to pick at it or clean it or get rid of all the plugs but all you are doing is self harming. You are not a doctor, you are not a surgeon. It took me a lot of doctor visits and painful hours of bloody paper towels and time locked away in the bathroom trying to FIX my wound. How ever the wound was brought on (acne, bug bite, scabies (my situation) or any other infection) the point is YOU havent left it alone! Your idea of leaving it alone is NOT the same as a medical professional. People really need to stop blaming anti biotics, and throwing fungal diagnoses everywhere. Anti bitotics saved my skin from spreading infection to other places in mybody. Cover the wound, clean it by patting it dry, do not RUB it, and complain that you feel it hurts and need to remove the plugs! Of course it hurts its an open wound!! You need to tell yourself that your pain sensations are going overload, LEAVE it alone, the pain will subside as it heals.

its not easy to admit you have a slim picking disorder, but once you do you can really start healing. I spent a lot of money and time wasted on forums talking about this issue, when all I had to do was take the antibitotics, leave it alone, clean and dress it,and stay the hell OUT of the mirror. Period.

 

I wish you all the best, but someone here has to say something.

NOT TRUE..!!!
Research what a Parasite "oocyst" is..! That is what the hard purple lump is on the skin; the digging feeling it makes is part of the cycle of the parasite digging its way through the layers of skin to continuallyinfect the blood steam to spread the parasite to other parts/cellsof the body...

Ive already provided several links prior and if people want to ignore it that is fine too... But unless one treats themselves for the parasite and has all the oocysts removed from their body; you simple just live with the parasite but never really get rid of it or slowly the oocysts take over (and at that point its considered cancer) in vital organs...