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yes, it will.
Its only 13% ZnO, and it contains parabens. Not my first choice, but up to you! Good luck
Belli Baby has a 39% ZnO that is paraben free.
Sorry- I haven't really been following the thread that well- but are you guys having success applying zinc oxide to your face??
yes, it will.
Its only 13% ZnO, and it contains parabens. Not my first choice, but up to you! Good luck
Belli Baby has a 39% ZnO that is paraben free.
Sorry- I haven't really been following the thread that well- but are you guys having success applying zinc oxide to your face??
Yes it has been 1 week and most of my acne is gone. I only have 1 or 2 left. It also help with dark spot and drying up acne.
yes, it will.
Its only 13% ZnO, and it contains parabens. Not my first choice, but up to you! Good luck
Belli Baby has a 39% ZnO that is paraben free.
Sorry- I haven't really been following the thread that well- but are you guys having success applying zinc oxide to your face??
Yes it has been 1 week and most of my acne is gone. I only have 1 or 2 left. It also help with dark spot and drying up acne.
What one are you using
insulin insulin insulin.
i just found a page that says that during puberty insulin increases and then goes down when puberty is over. this explains why people beleive that you grow out of acne. my acne started when i turned 9. at this time my mustache came in and puberty started. my insulin levels as well as igf-1 increased. when insulin is too high it stays in your blood stream. it is a hormone. insulin causes androgen responses and sebum to be increased. this explains a lot to me. people with acne were found to have more of the cells that produce sebum. its all the insulin!!! this is why there is adult acne. its insulin resistance. the best cure to acne is stop being insulin resistant.
the things that help it are:
exercise
chromium
cinnamon
vinegar
omega 3
vitamin d
and the list goes on
the things that are bad are:
-simple sugars
-omega 6
and the lists goes on
american diet is full of these bad things
even vitamin a was found to stop insulin production. this explains so much to me. i had this thought at 1:00 in the morning and i knew it had to be true. i jumped on my computer and found it. i think that insulin resistance is what is causing the acne epidemic in America and is causing my acne. if this isn't true and it doesn't work for me eventually i will not know what to do. i will give up and quit.
I woke up at 2:00 in the morning to research insulin one last time. I beleived that I had found something. What I found was shocking. Here it is: https://www.novapubl...roducts_id=4933
"A transient insulin resistant state occurs during puberty and is part of normal human development. Insulin resistance increases immediately at the beginning of puberty, peaks at mid-puberty, and then declines to nearly prepubertal levels by early adulthood. Girls are more insulin resistant than boys during puberty which is related in part to differences in adiposity between the sexes. Glucose homeostasis is maintained during puberty through compensatory hyperinsulinemia. While resistance to insulins effect on glucose metabolism is present, insulin-stimulated protein metabolism is normal. Therefore, a physiologic consequence of insulin resistance during puberty may be augmentation of rapid growth by promotion of protein anabolism.
The causes of physiological insulin resistance during puberty have not been definitively established. Gonadal sex steroids do not appear to play a central role. There is strong evidence, however, that GH/IGF-I activity contributes to pubertal insulin resistance. GH and IGF-I levels increase and then decrease during puberty, following a pattern similar to that of insulin resistance. A significant association between IGF-I levels and pubertal insulin resistance has been demonstrated in many studies. Some studies find that African Americans are more insulin resistant during puberty than their white counterparts, although this was not found to be the case in a study where the black youth were lean and physically active. "
In puberty insulin resistance develops and then it goes away at the end of puberty. Sound familiar? in puberty, if one has acne, acne is beleived to start and then you "grow out" of it.
okay so that sounds strange right? a coincidence? i think not
then i said what does insulin have to do with sebum and acne?
i found this: http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/10428145
Good correlations, although lower, between insulin and T, and BMI, insulin, and T with triglycerides were also found in patients with PCOS. These patients fell into clearly distinct categories: with or without insulin resistance and with or without obesity, but slim women with PCOS had insulin and metabolic variables similar to those without PCOS, and most obese women with PCOS were insulin-resistant and more hyperandrogenic and hypertriglyceridemic.
CONCLUSION(S):
Insulin, androgens, and BMI are related in women both with PCOS and without PCOS, especially in obese ones. Insulin and metabolic indices are similar in lean women with PCOS and those without PCOS, but obese women with PCOS are more insulin-resistant, hyperandrogenic, and hypertriglyceridemic. Three types of disorders can be distinguished: simple nonhyperandrogenic obesity, typical nonhyperinsulinemic PCOS, and insulin-resistant PCOS.
So inslun is related positively to androgens?
Then i found this: http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC3051853/
"Typical western diet, comprised of milk and hyperglycaemic foods, may have potentiating effects on serum insulin and insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) levels, thereby promoting the development of acne.17"
then i found this: http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/19709092
"It is the purpose of this viewpoint article to delineate the regulatory network of growth hormone (GH), insulin, and insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1) signalling during puberty, associated hormonal changes in adrenal and gonadal androgen metabolism, and the impact of dietary factors and smoking involved in the pathogenesis of acne. The key regulator IGF-1 rises during puberty by the action of increased GH secretion and correlates well with the clinical course of acne. In acne patients, associations between serum levels of IGF-1, dehydroepiandrosterone sulphate, dihydrotestosterone, acne lesion counts and facial sebum secretion rate have been reported. IGF-1 stimulates 5alpha-reductase, adrenal and gonadal androgen synthesis, androgen receptor signal transduction, sebocyte proliferation and lipogenesis. Milk consumption results in a significant increase in insulin and IGF-1 serum levels comparable with high glycaemic food. Insulin induces hepatic IGF-1 secretion, and both hormones amplify the stimulatory effect of GH on sebocytes and augment mitogenic downstream signalling pathways of insulin receptors, IGF-1 receptor and fibroblast growth factor receptor-2b. Acne is proposed to be an IGF-1-mediated disease, modified by diets and smoking increasing insulin/IGF1-signalling. Metformin treatment, and diets low in milk protein content and glycaemic index reduce increased IGF-1 signalling. Persistent acne in adulthood with high IGF-1 levels may be considered as an indicator for increased risk of cancer, which may require appropriate dietary intervention as well as treatment with insulin-sensitizing agents."
very strange. i'm not sure whether or not its igf-1 or insulin. i beleive it is inslun resistance which is brought on my puberty! but!!!!!!!!
theres a missing link here. something that doesn't make sense! if insulin resistance is a marker of puberty then why doesn't everyone have acne and have it to the same extent. Well the asnwer to this is complicated. One of the factors is diet. People who eat a better less simple sugar diet will not have as much acne. But this isn't true for all. How many people have heard the man say "my friend eats junk all the time and has no acne. WHy me!!" Well i beleive their is a missing link here. Only certain people have some sort of genetical DNA structure that makes insulin resistance trigger acne for them. This is why diabetic people do not neccesarily have acne.
Now Acne is supposed to pass during adulthood but a lot of people here on the board have acne and are passed their mid 25's. This is a serious health risk. It will probably lead to diabetes. Now, why???
Hypothesis: So i beleive that insulin resistance which is a normal part of puberty leads to increased androgens which leads to acne for those who have that genetic disposal. Which, if you are reading this, you have that genetic disposal.
Now, what backs this hypothesis up? the best way is to look at some of successful acne treatments:
i will start with vitamin A
i found this: http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/10966898
"Statistically significant direct relations were observed between SSPG and mean arterial blood pressure (r = 0.44, P: = 0.008) and plasma lipid hydroperoxide concentrations (r = 0.42, P: = 0.01), whereas significant inverse correlations were found between SSPG and alpha-carotene (r = -0.58, P: = 0.0002), beta-carotene (r = -0.49, P: = 0.004), lutein (r = -0.35, P: = 0.04), alpha-tocopherol (r = -0. 36, P: = 0.04), and delta-tocopherol (r = -0.45, P: = 0.007).
CONCLUSIONS:
Variations in insulin-mediated glucose disposal in healthy individuals are significantly related to plasma concentrations of lipid hydroperoxides and liposoluble antioxidant vitamins. These findings suggest that total plasma lipid peroxidation is increased in insulin-resistant individuals at an early, preclinical stage, ie, well before the development of glucose intolerance and type 2 diabetes."
sound familiar? vitamin A is lipid soluble and is beta carotene. now maybe we know why accutane works so well????
okay that's only one example. lets go for zinc:
"Regarding obesity and insulin resistance, alterations in zinc concentration and distribution in tissues, as well as improvement in sensitivity to insulin after supplementation with this element, have been detected. Thus, the metabolic role of zinc in the insulin resistance syndrome should be further investigated having in mind that this element may contribute to the control of the usual metabolic alterations present in obese patients."
The studies are there that zinc improves acne by 85%! no one knows why. turns out it improves insulin sensitivity.
how about antibiotics?
here you go: http://www.trialregi...iew.asp?TC=2566
"Accumulating data from both patients and animal models indicates that imbalances in the composition of the gut microbiota are related to obesity and its associated diseases However, the exact role of the microbiota and the mechanism mediating its impact on metabolic functions are poorly understood.
Interestingly, antibiotics have been shown to produce drastic short- and long-term alterations of the human indwelling microbiota. After a 2 wk intervention with norfloxacin in combination with ampicillin the numbers of aerobic and anaerobic gut bacteria in ob/ob mice were maximally suppressed. The ob/ob mice showed a significant improvement in fasting glycemia and oral glucose tolerance by 30%. Concomitant reduction of liver triglycerides, reduction of lipopolysaccharides supported the antidiabetic effects of antibiotic treatment. This study showed that modulation of gut microbiota with antibiotics improved glucose tolerance in mice by altering the expression of hepatic and intestinal genes involved in inflammation and metabolism.
wow! so turns out antibiotics improve insulin resistance. who would have thought? the list goes on with popular suplements for acne such as vitamin c, chromium, magnesium.
how about omega 3's???
here you go: http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/18348080
"Aging diminishes hormone secretion and target cell responsiveness, possibly due to loss of cell membrane fluidity or alteration of membrane phospholipids affecting signal transduction. We investigated whether a high omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acid diet would improve endocrine function in 6 men and 6 women aged over 60 years. Subjects first ate an isocaloric control diet for 6 weeks, followed by an 8-week experimental diet, which included 720 g of fatty fish weekly plus 15 ml of sardine oil daily. In the last week, we measured RBC membrane fatty acids on each diet, performed pituitary, adrenal, hepatic, and Leydig cell endocrine provocative testing, and assayed selected cytokines. We also assessed insulin sensitivity utilizing octreotide insulin suppression testing and assessed free fatty acid (FFA) responses to isoproteronol. Insulin sensitivity increased significantly after 8 weeks on the omega-3 diet and FFA responses trended lower. Serum C-reactive protein was significantly reduced and a trend towards lower IL-6 was noted. No differences were found in other metabolic parameters, adiponectin levels, or hormone responses. We conclude that, in older people, high omega-3 consumption increases insulin sensitivity, may reduce FFA mobilization by catecholamines, and reduces inflammatory markers, but did not alter endocrine responsiveness after 8 weeks
omega 3's are missing in the american diet according to many. acne is prevalent in america in many populations that it was not! coincidence? you tell me.
how about those omega 6's that are part of the SAD:
"Relationships between polyunsaturated FA type and IR vary according to the presence or absence of MS. N-3 FAs including EPA and DHA are associated with lower HOMA-IR, while the opposite is true for n-6 FAs. Prospective studies are required to address the potential effects of intermediate dose EPA and DHA on glucose handling in MS patients.
the opposite!!! so omega 6's fuel insulin resistance. btw, insulin is a hormone.
in science there are theories and there are hypothesis's. When you can back something you can challenge other previous wrong things.
The hypothesis: acne is caused by insulin resistance that is normal during puberty. The missing link is that genetic code that makes us all here predisposed to acne. This provides hope for the future as humankind can find that genetic peice and take it out. So for most teens they would normally grow out of their acne and you shouldn't be worried. You should be worried on the other hand, if you get poor exercise, are overweight, and you eat a simple sugar diet. sounds like most americans, doesn't it??? well acne is extremely prevalent in well developed societies. coincidence? you tell me.
so what does this all mean for me. it means i'm not sure i can ever forgive god for giving that genetic disposal to acne. It's unfair and it's not right. but boo hoo everyone knows, life is unfair. that's just the way it is.
so this now makes treating acne a lot easier for people who know about this info. turns out a lot of people on the board already do and doctors do as well. its an internal fight. its a fight against genetics. however, it may be a loosing battle for many of us with teenage acne. After all, insulin resistance is a normal part of puberty.
this is all a theory but it the most shocking, rare, and formidable back up that i have ever seen in a theory. It has the biology to back it up, the research, the chemistry, and the evidence of current treatment. This was all written by someone who went to bed at 3 in the morning last night so i do apologize for my typo's.
I've just bought some 40% zinc oxide cream to use on alternate days with benzoyl peroxide. Hoping it will help with the irritation and dryness caused by the peroxide whilst still helping my acne!
Fingers crossed it works, thanks for the tip
I don't think you should use benzoyl peroxide and zinc oxide together because it may be very drying.
I've just bought some 40% zinc oxide cream to use on alternate days with benzoyl peroxide. Hoping it will help with the irritation and dryness caused by the peroxide whilst still helping my acne!
Fingers crossed it works, thanks for the tip
I don't think you should use benzoyl peroxide and zinc oxide together because it may be very drying.
Oh right, I thought that zinc oxide was quite moisturising as it's used for rashes. Might just try the zinc oxide on its own for a bit then and if it doesn't work for me then go back to benzoyl peroxide 
I've just bought some 40% zinc oxide cream to use on alternate days with benzoyl peroxide. Hoping it will help with the irritation and dryness caused by the peroxide whilst still helping my acne!
Fingers crossed it works, thanks for the tip
I don't think you should use benzoyl peroxide and zinc oxide together because it may be very drying.
Oh right, I thought that zinc oxide was quite moisturising as it's used for rashes. Might just try the zinc oxide on its own for a bit then and if it doesn't work for me then go back to benzoyl peroxide
Or you can apply benzoyl peroxide on the most problematic areas on your face, and use zinc somewhere else (let's say your forehead because for me it doesn't break out as bad as my cheeks). Then you can visibly see the difference between the two treatments
It's not the zinc that will clog pores, it's what the zinc is in. Look at the ingredients of the cream and see. They have different formulations. Mine doesnt have any pore clogging ingredients, and I use OCM to clear my pores everyday. Just using facial cleanser does not clear the thick cream from the pores. I've suggested to people on this thread to use some kind of oil, either OCM or just plain olive oil, to remove the zinc completely, then wash with whatever. The oil is plenty but some people aren't comfortable with that. Soap and water doesn't take it off properly and then the other ingredients can probably break you out.
I have been using this sunscreen by 100 percent pure which has 25% zinc and also lot of oils. So far so good. Next I want to try goats milk soap and moisturizer. Supposedly goats milk is great for problematic skin.
Quick question,
I went to my dermatologist today and he said im going to break out if i keep using zinc oxide as it will clog my pores. i dont really think that is true, watcha Think?
if you use brands with parfum or fragrance then that product will. if you use brands without any of that stuff then it won't. i have already posted the studies showing how effective this is. zinc oxide decreases sebum and gets rid of acne.
my right cheek is perfect right now. i was experimenting the last few days with some new things and so i was extremely irritated. i took a break one night from zinc oxide and that was a mistake. anyway i used it last night and all the redness went down and its like i started over with a clean slate. right now my mouth area is clear and so is my right cheek. my left forehead is clear. ever since i started the zinc oxide i don't have painful pimples anymore. i love that. today makes 2 weeks of being on zinc oxide.
I gave the zinc oxide topical a try, and didn't see any change really. It didn't make it worse, but didn't really help either. I like the moisturizer with zinc, and I still use it for rashes, but I'm stopping it for nightly application. I have a lot more no inflamed acne, which may be just part if the spirit and differing purge process, but topical zinc isn't healing anything any faster or making me clear. Wasn't a total disaster, just wasn't amazing or even beneficial. Good luck to the rest of you though! Glad it works for some!
just got back from a 3 day vacation. didn't use the zinc oxide while there. the only stuff i used for those three days were zinc pills or 30mg a day. i broke out like crazy on my forehead and both neck areas. bad acne on my left cheek as well. it's a lot of small clogged pores. i had some giant blackheads on my forehead also and some around my face. very bad. i also started paleo diet while on the vacation. i expect it to take longer for that to work. i also only got 5 hours of sleep on average on both nights so that is a reason for the unclear skin. i also tested in the toxicity range for vitamin D so i have to go off of it for about a month. looking forward to finally getting some sleep tonight. although i have the whiteheads on my forehead and cheeks i am kind of impressed that my right cheek mainly stay clear and so did my mouth. my jaw line broke out like crazy which hasn't broken out in weeks. also the side of my eyes which usually break out didn't break out at all. very strange. it could have to do with masturbating. i will go back to my zinc oxide tonight. i had about 2 pimples while on the zinc oxide. after coming home tonight i have 30 pimples. it makes me realize that i should be more appreciative of the zinc oxide. i wanted perfect skin but just two pimples is fine.
this morning the acne is looking a lot better but my face got a little reddish from getting the zinc oxide off. the whiteheads on the forehead are drying up. i was stupid and pulled the blackheads out of my forehead last night. i know that popping whiteheads leaves red marks but i didn't know that pulling a blackhead can do damage to your skin. turns out that it does. so you really can't pop or push anything out of your face at home. no bathroom surgeries people. anyway i will be going on here less because i realize that part of acne is a psychological thing. by going to acne.org everyday it makes you more focused on the acne and more stressed out. i will probably only log on every couple days. i went to a chrstian camp over weekend and it made me realize just how powerful the mind is. if you listen to something enough you will beleive it. even if you don't beleive it while you listen to it, you will eventually believe it. so basically if you want to improve your self image then tell yourself positive things everyday. people don't realize that they are very negative towards themselves. if we say positive things everyday we will eventually believe them. one thing you can say is "my acne is going away" or "my face is clearing up and i will never have acne again". our brain is the most powerful thing in the world. if you keep telling yourself that your acne is getting better and going away you will believe that it is and then it will proabably clear up as well.
i have started a paleo diet. it is going well so far. i also started 3 teaspoons of fish oil a day. i stopped my multi. i recomend eliminating grains from your diet.
i also recomend taking brazil nuts for the high amount of selenium. here is a copy of my signature i can't see it when i log out:
My current Acne Regimen (daily)
37.5 mg zinc chelated (reduced my acne by 50%) (8/12/12)
Eat one reuteri probiotic pill (12/21/12) + good belly 20 billion probiotic shots (1/1/13)
5,000 iu vitamin d3 daily (10/30/12) my vitamin D level is 119 ng.ml! (i was deficient before)
apple cider vinegar drink 1 table spoon 4 times a day (12/29/12)
zinc oxide 12.5% diaper rash cream applied while i sleep <------- My CURE! (12/21/12)
2 tablespoons brewers yeast (1/1/13)
3 teaspoons fish oil (1/1/13)
30 minutes intense exercise (1/1/3)
Things i found info about but never used:
1 multivitamin for vitamin A, E, K (1 day)
baking soda as a 10 minute cleanser to exfoliate (1 day)
cinnamon pills
echinacea pills
Head and shoulders shampoo on face with the zinc one
honey cinnamon mask for 15 minutes (1/2/13)
2 teaspoons flaxseed oil (1/1/13)
pepogest peppermint oil pills twice a day (12/30/12)
Things I tried that didn't work:
-Duac gel (tried it for 2 months)
-drinking Evening primrose oil and applying topically(tried it for 1 month
-antibiotics (worst mistake of my life and ruined my immune system)
Current Acne Score: 7/10
0 is really bad acne 10 is perfect skin
1 Samuel 16:7
"But the LORD said to Samuel, 'Do not look at his appearance or at the height of his stature, because I have rejected him; for God sees not as man sees, for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.'"
wow zinc oxide actually works!!! flawless skin here i come. it cleared me 100% in 3 days
my studies, research, and personal experience have lead me to beleive that insulin resistance is the cause of the acne epidemic in America.
"Patients are deluded into thinking that their health can somehow be mysteriously harmed by something in their diet."
This is a quote from an article published in 1971 inAmerican Family Physician.
I used Desitin ointment for about a month and I think it worked pretty well, but I'd rather use it as a mask once a week or something because it gets all over my pillowcase/sheets. Kinda annoying. It does feel soothing on the face though, and I think it does really calm down inflammation.
acne is 5/10 today. i got some flare ups. i am trying this low glycemic diet but it is really hard to follow. my skin definately is way less oilier. it is a hard diet to follow. i also have cut out all sugar. the zinc oxide works well. use susan browns one though. thats the best one