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Goto any corner medspa in the UK and they will zap you for thousands of pounds with laser. Try Dr Lowe if you need laser services after Chu. Dr Emil in Denmark is also very good. There are other Drs in the FAQ top of the scar treatments sub, it's at the bottom. The Dr's near Wales are not that good. I have had people who fly elsewhere or take the train for treatment. Remember it's hard to find manual methods and someone who does a lot of acne scar work monthly.
On 12/20/2018 at 6:43 AM, beautifulambition said:Goto any corner medspa in the UK and they will zap you for thousands of pounds with laser. Try Dr Lowe if you need laser services after Chu. Dr Emil in Denmark is also very good. There are other Drs in the FAQ top of the scar treatments sub, it's at the bottom. The Dr's near Wales are not that good. I have had people who fly elsewhere or take the train for treatment. Remember it's hard to find manual methods and someone who does a lot of acne scar work monthly.
Thank you for always answering everyone one here. Your efforts are huge and I am so thankfull for you !
Who is dr Lowe and is he the best for lasers in uk?
& what about fillers ?
32 minutes ago, CrashBash said:Thank you for always answering everyone one here. Your efforts are huge and I am so thankfull for you !
Who is dr Lowe and is he the best for lasers in uk?
& what about fillers ?
if you mean nick lowe these reviewsmade me worry. most are complaining about how money seeker he is and he will take thousands of pounds .. I am not rich and even if I was rich I will not go to a doctor care about how to gain most money from people more than healing them.. I dont know him and I hope what they say is wrong
Thank You.
You realize laser prices are very expensive. Look at one of the other recent posters he posted price list for 152 I think it was Harley Street London. Yes people complain, ... when they charge high prices or are highly skilled people don't want to pay for it. You can get filler anywhere even Wales. Find a expert injector and have them do the filler when swelling goes down a week after sub with Chu. I am sure you have ratings sites for practitioners. If you don't like Lowes' prices or Harley which is known to also be expensive, then goto Dr Emil - Denmark, ... he is not cheap either. IF you won't want expense don't do laser. RF needling I am sure can be done locally to you as well at a medspa but you research and take the risk of finding someone.
In my view itis true that Prof. Chu is limited with his treatments he only offers Nokor subcision which is meant for deeper scars, no cannula fortextural scars .. He only performed subcision ontwo of myscars with Nokor (and I have many more rolling scars)and one smaller scar got even worse from it. I have many textural scars andcannula field subcision was what Dr. Novick did for me after Chu without any use of Nokor. This also didn't help much - due to lack of filler perhaps but felt like a better technique for my type of scars. Novick also used amicrocannulafor individual subcision of my forehead scar - which actually helped a bit.Dr. Emil also only does Nokor subcision - if these Drs are so good why they don't follow the cannula trend as well? I'm just wondering.. becauseif one has only textural scars Chu's dermapen doesn't help much. He also applied TCA cross to all of my shallow rolling scars which was not in line with the theory that TCA is mainly for icepicks.. So overallzero improvementfor me.Anyway, it is indeed shame we don't get more optionsin Europe.
35 minutes ago, Nina22 said:In my view itis true that Prof. Chu is limited with his treatments he only offers Nokor subcision which is meant for deeper scars, no cannula fortextural scars .. He only performed subcision ontwo of myscars with Nokor (and I have many more rolling scars)and one smaller scar got even worse from it. I have many textural scars andcannula field subcision was what Dr. Novick did for me after Chu without any use of Nokor. This also didn't help much - due to lack of filler perhaps but felt like a better technique for my type of scars. Novick also used amicrocannulafor individual subcision of my forehead scar - which actually helped a bit.Dr. Emil also only does Nokor subcision - if these Drs are so good why they don't follow the cannula trend as well? I'm just wondering.. becauseif one has only textural scars Chu's dermapen doesn't help much. He also applied TCA cross to all of my shallow rolling scars which was not in line with the theory that TCA is mainly for icepicks.. So overallzero improvementfor me.Anyway, it is indeed shame we don't get more optionsin Europe.
how many time you went to dr chu?
you visited many doctors. who you think the best?
did dr chu did prp and dermapen and tca also for you?
On 12/21/2018 at 2:09 AM, Swede_89 said:I went to Dr. Emil last week and he used a thinner needle for my temples. I didn't ask what the name was, but would assume that it's a cannula. He showed me three different needles that he uses - one of them being Nokor which he used on my cheeks.
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Andy
2mafter the procedure. Thatscarswhich were treated with TCA Cross 90% turnedto be worse then before. They all on the forehead. When I asked Prof.Chu about such a high percentage he said he used90% and it is fine...I wanted to do just one test scar but after he said it was fine andwent for more scars. Luckely I refused to do any TCA Cross on the cheeks, only one scar was done, it healed, stayedthe same,no improvement. Now I read again here everything about tca technique and I am sure that 90% was too much and usually it is not used... in fact only max 35% is used and on the video it is 60%
Although on the videos here tca is not wiped straight away. Prof. wiped it straight away after the white frosting has appeared which was in 3-5 seconds.
I am going in 2 weeks again. I will not do 90%.
.Is here anybody who went to Prof.Chu and TCA Cross 90% was performed - how did you heal and what results have you got.
I do not see any improvement from Sub DP PDO for now(( I still have not healed from the outbreak..
It is difficult to protest again anythingwhen you are on the table after painful procedure and the Doc tells u that it is fine...
i am sorry I allowed to doTCA Cross 90%...
before the treatment Professor said when I started to talk about the lines after Derminator and first bad experience after TCA Cross - either you trust me or not....
Hello Sibel, i feel your struggle and really hope you will see some improvements in the new year.
Regarding your question on percentages, yes i had 3 rounds of TCA cross with professor chu, and he used 100% on my icepicks/boxcars. Iqueried the percentage as i have olive skin and thought there might be a problem but he assured me it was fine. My treatment was very successful, but results developed incrementally over time. luckily it was the worst/deepest scars that improved the most.
overall i do think professor chu is hugely experienced andresponsible, i always felt in good hands even if he doesn't hang around and moves you through the process quite swiftly.
are you sure there's no improvement? i did notice that as the process went on i got quite obsessed with looking in the mirror, it's easy to distort things in your mind when you are looking super close up all the time.
I had 2 treatments with dr Chu (subcision and tca cross on 1st and subcision,tca cross,dermapen,prp on 2nd).I only saw improvement on 1st treatment only from subcision.On my 2nd treatment he subcised only 1-2 scars and he did extreme dermapen with tca cross and prp.My scars after that treatment got 0 % improvement and also i developed new scars,maybe from dermapen.I dont know if its AMVC but i'm developing new scars everyday(most near eyebrows and temples(near and down the eyes)).I sent him some messages but he doesnt reply.I can say that after 2 treatments i developed more scars and i saw 50-80% improvement on some of my scars.His tca cross technique gave zero results and he doesnt believe in tca paint and cannula subcision.So if someone can answer,does dermapen create new scars if done aggresively,and if yes,will these scars fade away?
Tasinhoooo: this is really sad to hear that you developed new scars( and no reply from Dr. I expect nowany outcome from the follow up consultation,morally get prepared that it might be no 2d procedure...any reaction...
It is common unfortunately when there are no or bad results or problems Docs just do not want to know the patient anymore, had it many times.Much better to deal with successful patients.
I developed new lines and scars after Derminator done by myself(3 times cheeks/6 times forehead)and when I showedthe lines he just said you should not do it yourself(. While here Derminator is highly recommendedthat is why I purchased it and used following strictly all the instructions.
I did not notice new lines or scars after Dr.FNS Dermapen but all what I have got before is there. I am afraid they wont fade(( did not since the summer. On my pics u could see them these small cuts.
But there is some improvement u say in some scars. I supposeit is afterSub?
My impression is the same: tca gives zero or worse,dermapen is for the texture, but also zero or new lines, prp is zero, even it might act as a spacer, it dissolves in two days, do not see the point of doing it again. Sub is the main procedure, it might help.
May be u should tryto see the Dr for the follow up?
BlomingWasp: you calmed me down a bit, so happy u have got the improvement from 100% TCA Cross. Which is not the case with tasinhoooo and me.Everybodys skin heals differently, all I can say..everybody gets individual results.. Dr work and the method is only 50% and another 50% is how u heal...it is what I understand now.
Here one he page with tca description is strongly reccomended to start from lower %. It should be added that some Drs use 100%.
I am not obsessed with looking at my skin all the time but I do look close twice a day in the day light and in the evening light..and I notice the deeper holes in the scars which before were not so deep..
Where there was no tca on the cheeksall the scars got wider although the depth seems reduced a bit...
@SibelSome scars he subcised got more than 70% and without any filler(almost 1 year).My majority of scars are superficial so cannula subcision fits me better.I have 2 scars on my cheek which i am sure they need subcision,but Chu both times did tca cross and as a result,these scars widened.The only scars i saw big improvement with one tca cross were on forehead where i got more than 50%.Temple scars are deeper now after tca cross and dermapen.I dont want to visit him again and dont get what i need(subcision on cheek and tca paint on temple scars).
I see dear tasinhoooo, improvement frSub. So did Chu refuseto do Sub on 2 scars on the cheekand did tca instead? Even he saw after the 1st time no improvement and widening? This is really sad to hear. Not to work in cooperation with u depending on the result.
What is ur next step? Dr.Emil?
He said these scars are not appropriate forsubcision(perfect scars for this kind of treatment with saline,i think i could get more than 80-90% improvement) and he did tca cross both times.I may try a plastic surgeon for cannula subcision with saline only on these 2 scars as a test.Emil may be an option,but first I will wait for Chu's reply( and the comparison of the photos he took before each procedure).Chu is good doctor and nice guy BUT i think he is wrong about cannula subcision and tca paint.
Please keep updated whenhe answers, I hope he will! Yes he also said to methat cannula does not cut the tethers. I have the feeling that he has developed a certain pattern over the years with many patients and does not feel like changing it. I have the app on the 14th of January, will update.
i must say i have had identical experiance to tasin
i have rolling scars that from my research and seeing Emil would benefit best from subscision, however pro Chu used TCA cross instead which is much riskier imo, these are very shallow scars already
why do you think this is the case?
BA: thank u that u keep an eye on me) ..Oh, I wish Id knew about these new dataearlier..but afterDermapen with Chu I did not developed new lines but all the scars are wider and more noticeable for me. It was1,5 on the cheeks and 2 on the forehead.There are no extra lines or scars from Dn on the forehead only the cheeks.Even 1,5 is too much for the cheeks.If I refuse from needling and tca so I left with Sub and may be pdo. I hope it will be poss to discuss with Chu..
I am confused about cannula. I had it done on the forehead with zero result. Chu saysno to cannula because it does not cut the tethers. So if it does not cut the tethers and the scars remainattached what is the purpose for the cannula for the superficial box and rolling scars then?
2months update. The scars on the forehead became more prominent. Still marks from the breakout. On the left cheek(the worse) under the main three scars more scars appeared. They were there but not so prominent(
Noticed the scar near the lip.. like zigzag type line, how did it appear((( never had acne or herpes there
Tasinhoooo: What email address did you use? I have [email protected]. I will send him a letter this weekend.
@Sibel I apologize, you live in Belgium thank you.
He is at a new clinic apparently it was mentioned in another post, forget which one. Search for chu by recent posts and see if you can find it.
I was actually thinking about you. Do you know many auto immune like conditions do not show up with testings and Dermatologists can be useless, even blood / biopsies. There are auto immunologists and specialists. Some say we get acne because of the gut. I see definite damage to the skin so no I would not do anything to drastic. What about prp with fat for the stem cells or cheaper sculptra injected deeply? If you were to do laser we can't do strong devices so perhaps Tixel or Clear and Brilliant which take many treatments and only dosurface improvements. The constraint is being to harsh and making things worse.
Have you been to consults with plastic surgeons, what do they say?
Any treatment can be done"wrong" by any Dr even Lim if the patient does not heal well or has preexisting conditions. It's a gamble on how you heal, technique alone won't improve healing.
I would continue subcisions on you the most as you have pits. I do agree with you on pdo threads, that could pull the cheek and give some improvement.
Trying to help as always.
BA
Florida thank you.This is the address Jean gave me.I emailed Jean now.
BA:I did fat transfer a year ago,3 months and all dissolved, 3000 euro too. Zero for scars.
Yes it could be gut inflammation.I went through this,I am vegetarian, no diary, gluten, eggs, minsugar.
I visited many clinics, surgeons.They mostly say tca, phenol or may be a facelift...lasers. And give price lists for thousands...So I stopped to see plastic surgeons for now.
I said to Chu that I got the damage from Derminator already, asked may be not to do Dermapen having such an experience? He just said either you trust me ornot...he wanted to do 2mm on the cheeks, I asked him to do 1,5... I questioned about tca % and asked maybe to start with lower %... he said it was fine.now I blame myself that I did not insist on lower needle length and lower tea %..luckily did not do the cheeks with tca.. now when I go in a week time I do not know what to expect...