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WHAT:
1.) What size needles were/are you using? 1.0 mm dermaroller and a 1.5 mm dermastamp
2.) What kind of scars were/are you treating? Indented/boxcar
3.) What topicals, if any, did/do you use before & after each treatment? None specifically for my scars, but I use a retinol-based moisturizer every night.
4.) What vitamins/supplements, if any, did/do you take? Multi vitamins occasionally
5.) What was/is your time interval between each treatment? Once a month
6.) What percentage (0-100%) would you put on your scar improvement? Hmmm about 40%
HOW:
1.) How did/do you clean your device? Hot water and then alcohol soak for 30 minutes
2.) How often did/do you clean your device? Before and after every use
3.) How long had/have you been doing treatment? Less than a year
4.) How old were your scars when you first started? The oldest was about 5-6 years old. The newest was a few months.
*And last but not least, do you believe dermarolling/ dermastamping is worth it? Yes I do! I found that the dermastamp works better though. Maybe because I use a longer needle for it or because I can press deeper into the skin. But it definitely does yield results you just have to be patient.
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WHAT:
1.) What size needles were/are you using?
Clinic needling: Dermapen 2,5mm.
Home needling: Dermaroller 1mm + Dermastamp 0,5mm.
2.) What kind of scars were/are you treating?
Few ice pick scars, hypertrophic scars, discoloration spots.
3.) What topicals, if any, did/do you use before & after each treatment?
Skincare regimen: retinoic acid, ascorbic acid 20% (CE Ferulic), NIA24 Skin Strengthening Complex, Cetaphil lotion, Castor oil, Anthelios XL 50 spf (sunscreen).
Stop using all retinoids 1 week before treatment, start again 1 week after.
Immediately after needling: Sudocrem.
4.) What vitamins/supplements, if any, did/do you take?
Healthy eating, plenty of superfoods and supplements (Vit.C 1000mg, Vit.E mixed tocopherols 400 i.u., Resveratrol Plus, Homocysteine Modulators, Skin Eternal Plus (multi), Whey protein high in BCCAS).
5.) What was/is your time interval between each treatment?
Clinic needling: 4-5 weeks.
Home needling: 1-2 weeks.
6.) What percentage (0-100%) would you put on your scar improvement?
5% improvement after 3 clinic sessions. I dont have high expectation, especially after my disappointing experience with Fraxel (8 sessions, ZERO results!).
HOW:
1.) How did/do you clean your device?
By steam sterilizing, also Hydrogen Peroxide Solution as disinfectant.
Before needling: steam sterilizing.
After needling: first Hydrogen Peroxide Solution, then steam sterilizing.
2.) How often did/do you clean your device?
Before and after every treatment.
3.) How long had/have you been doing treatment?
Clinic needling: 3 months (3 sessions).
Home needling: On and off 3 months.
4.) How old were your scars when you first started? 20
*And last but not least, do you believe dermarolling/ dermastamping is worth it?
Well see Probably too early to say anything, but I dont have high expectation at all.
WHAT:
1.) What size needles were/are you using?
Clinic needling: Dermapen 2,5mm
Home needling: Dermaroller 1mm + Dermastamp 0,5mm
2.) What kind of scars were/are you treating?
Few ice pick scars, hypertrophic scars, discoloration spots
3.) What topicals, if any, did/do you use before & after each treatment?
Skincare regimen: retinoic acid, ascorbic acid 20% (CE Ferulic), NIA24 Skin Strengthening Complex, Cetaphil lotion, Castor oil, Anthelios XL 50 spf (sunscreen).
Stop using all retinoids 1 week before treatment, start again 1 week after.
Immediately after needling: Sudocrem.
4.) What vitamins/supplements, if any, did/do you take?
Healthy eating, plenty of superfoods and supplements (Vit.C 1000mg, Vit.E mixed tocopherols 400 i.u., Resveratrol Plus, Homocysteine Modulators, Skin Eternal Plus (multi), Whey protein high in BCCAS).
5.) What was/is your time interval between each treatment?
Clinic needling: 4-5 weeks.
Home needling: 1-2 weeks.
6.) What percentage (0-100%) would you put on your scar improvement?
5% improvement after 3 clinic sessions. I dont have high expectation, especially after my disappointing experience with Fraxel (8 sessions, ZERO results!).
HOW:
1.) How did/do you clean your device?
By steam sterilizing, also Hydrogen Peroxide Solution as disinfectant.
Before needling: steam sterilizing.
After needling: first Hydrogen Peroxide Solution, then steam sterilizing.
2.) How often did/do you clean your device?
Before and after every treatment.
3.) How long had/have you been doing treatment?
Clinic needling: 3 months (3 sessions).
Home needling: On and off 3 months.
4.) How old were your scars when you first started? 20
*And last but not least, do you believe dermarolling/ dermastamping is worth it?
Well see Probably too early to say anything, but I dont have high expectation at all.
WHAT:
1.) What size needles were/are you using? 1.0mm (forehead and temples) and1.5mm (other areas)
2.) What kind of scars were/are you treating? mainly rolling andicepick
3.) What topicals, if any, did/do you use before & after each treatment? I triedseveral different topicals: copper peptides, retinol cream, retin-a, Terproline, Infadolan
4.) What vitamins/supplements, if any, did/do you take? A multivitamin/minerals during the last few treatments
5.) What was/is your time interval between each treatment? 4-12 weeks
6.) What percentage (0-100%) would you put on your scar improvement? 50%
HOW:
1.) How did/do you clean your device? Run it under water after each treatment. Leave it 30 minutes in desinfectant alcohol before and after use
2.) How often did/do you clean your device? after and before each use
3.) How long had/have you been doing treatment? I treated my scars in 2013, 2014 and 2017, with a total of 15 sessions
4.) How old were your scars when you first started? 23 years old
*And last but not least, do you believe dermarolling/ dermastamping is worth it? Yes, it is. It improves shallow scars. Some of my scars disappeared completely while other shallow scars didn't change. It improved my orange peel texture and reverted a good portion of the laser damage I had suffered in the past.
16 minutes ago, ailaeshiz said:This is confusing since I have no idea what device everybody is using
It seems many people are using electric devices now. I can't say anything about them since I only used dermarollers and dermastamps.
Dermastamps are better than dermarollers. Dermastamps allows us to target specific scars and be more aggressive where needed. They are also less painful and less risky. I treated most of my face and didn't feel dermarollers were more suitable to treat large areas. I didn't see any difference actually.
One important thing I wish I knew when I started this needling jorney: topicals and supplements are essential.
@u1971 oh yea? any topicals and supplements in particular?
6 hours ago, ailaeshiz said:@u1971 oh yea? any topicals and supplements in particular?
If you search this board you will find mixed reviews about every single product. It's really confusing.
You will have to test them for yourself and see how your skin reacts. I would use some form of vitamin A like retinol or retin-a. Copper peptides are controversial (e.g breakouts, no results, expensive) but they helped me.
Supplements I started using for memory, concentration and energy, and then I noticed my skin was healing better. The theory behind them is that the food we consume nowadays is not as nourishing as it was in the past, even if we have a balanced diet. Again, due to the controversial nature of those products, I'll use them temporarily. I don't like the idea of taking those pills forever.
I bought the cheapest multi vitamin & minerals I found where I live. I don't know what options you have in Europe and North America, but I think any product from a large company is ok.
16 hours ago, Sirius Lee said:Go with copper peptide.But allow me to play the devil's advocate. As I stated elsewhere, all forms of non-energy based microneedling, be it dermaroller, dermastamp, dermapen, or derminator, will not give you any meaningful result for a significant length of time. You'll need to roll your face for at least 5 years, That's some serious time investment. Who has such time and patience? If we were still living in a dark age where technology was just not there, then that would be totally understandable. But with so many newer and better machines constantly coming on the market, I see no reason to use such an outmoded apparatus. Economically speaking, with all the time and effort you spend rolling, not to mention countless hours fretting about it in front of the mirror, it would frankly cost more in the long run. Getting a subcision or Infini would be way more cost-effective, not to mention that you will see measurable results.
Are you talking any scars, or more serious scars? My scars are very surface level, and my biggest concern is orange peel texture. I think I might be lucky enough that low level microneedling could help with that, but maybe I'm wrong. (also, I can't believe how fucking expensive Infini is. Even regular, non RF microneedling can cost a minimum 300 dollars per session. Kids in the future are gonna have it so easy when you can buy these things off Amazon for a few hundred dollars).