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7 week update- things are looking better. defenite improvement and i am very well looking forward to my second treatment =)
Why do you hurry for 2nd treatment while there is improvement going on.?
thats a question i dont know the answer too. i guess i wanna maximize the improvement . im planning to get second treatment around week 11
Going in tomorrow for treatment. I'm optimistic about Airgent, but am realistic about the results.
Either way, I feel it's better to try then not since you'll never know if it'll be effective for you.
I love your attitude! Yes going ahead with treatments can be daunting but it's that fear that will eventually stop you from ever trying anything. Sometimes you've just got to put yourself out there and jump in the deep end (after doing your research of course, 
). Good luck with the treatment and keep us updated yeah?! 
7 week update- things are looking better. defenite improvement and i am very well looking forward to my second treatment =)
Why do you hurry for 2nd treatment while there is improvement going on.?
The trick is to have treatments spaced around 6-8 weeks. The reason for this is that at the 6-8 week mark your body has produced "stable" collagen in its mature form so at this point you can then go ahead and have another treatment, then wait another 6-8 weeks and so on. 
Same principal behind the Dermaroller. The induced trauma is the key here. After all of No_Hope's treatments have been completed he will likely continue to see improvements outside the 6-8 week mark. 
Going in tomorrow for treatment. I'm optimistic about Airgent, but am realistic about the results.
Either way, I feel it's better to try then not since you'll never know if it'll be effective for you.
I love your attitude! Yes going ahead with treatments can be daunting but it's that fear that will eventually stop you from ever trying anything. Sometimes you've just got to put yourself out there and jump in the deep end (after doing your research of course,
). Good luck with the treatment and keep us updated yeah?!
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7 week update- things are looking better. defenite improvement and i am very well looking forward to my second treatment =)
Why do you hurry for 2nd treatment while there is improvement going on.?
The trick is to have treatments spaced around 6-8 weeks. The reason for this is that at the 6-8 week mark your body has produced "stable" collagen in its mature form so at this point you can then go ahead and have another treatment, then wait another 6-8 weeks and so on.
Same principal behind the Dermaroller. The induced trauma is the key here. After all of No_Hope's treatments have been completed he will likely continue to see improvements outside the 6-8 week mark.
the doc said 12 weeks (3 months) . i dont mind the wait since the results are worth it. only time will tell =)
Going in tomorrow for treatment. I'm optimistic about Airgent, but am realistic about the results.
Either way, I feel it's better to try then not since you'll never know if it'll be effective for you.
I love your attitude! Yes going ahead with treatments can be daunting but it's that fear that will eventually stop you from ever trying anything. Sometimes you've just got to put yourself out there and jump in the deep end (after doing your research of course,
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7 week update- things are looking better. defenite improvement and i am very well looking forward to my second treatment =)
Why do you hurry for 2nd treatment while there is improvement going on.?
The trick is to have treatments spaced around 6-8 weeks. The reason for this is that at the 6-8 week mark your body has produced "stable" collagen in its mature form so at this point you can then go ahead and have another treatment, then wait another 6-8 weeks and so on.
the doc said 12 weeks (3 months) . i dont mind the wait since the results are worth it. only time will tell =)
Whoops! See, my brain left the building while I was posting. Yes, sorry... 12 week intervals for the Airgent, 6-8 for the Dermaroller. I guess I've gotten so used to saying 6-8 weeks that I went into autopilot. Thanks for correcting me!
No_Hope, For your 2nd treatment do you plan on doing your temples this time? Or are you only going to have your Doctor concentrate on your cheeks again? Is this procedure not recommended for the temples from what he told you?
i got one shot of airgent to my right temple where i have alittle bit of scarring. yes for my second treatment im gonna make him hit my right temple again . from what i know enerjet works really well for the cheek area
Where in TO are you having this done? Thx.
there is no where offering it in toronto that i know of. i went to brampton to have it done which is not far from T.O at all. google dr.matta and give them a call if you have any questions.
this thread attracted my attention. I did some research and there seems to be a clinic in Richmond Hill that provides this service as well.
No Hope, thanks for documenting this... you said the downtown is about an entire week? The website always talks about "minimum down time" (1-2 days). What is more realistic?
And what is the cost? You mentioned $600 CAD, did you get a lot of shots?
richmond hill no longer does enerjet. you have to go to brampton if your in ontario. downtime was a week for me it could be less for others. with tax it comees to about 670 cad. i got quite a few shots on right cheek and not as much on the left cheek. google Dr.matta for his clinics website.
Hey No Hope.... Can you clarify how Airgent targets depressed scars? I understand the true mechanism of this system is through the subcision-like effect of the HA that is being propelled through the skin. How exactly does the system target the hyaluronic acid into the areas of scarring as opposed to just diffusely spreading laterally in the skin? Would that not create lumpiness?
Hey No Hope.... Can you clarify how Airgent targets depressed scars? I understand the true mechanism of this system is through the subcision-like effect of the HA that is being propelled through the skin. How exactly does the system target the hyaluronic acid into the areas of scarring as opposed to just diffusely spreading laterally in the skin? Would that not create lumpiness?
the trauma breaks up scar tissue thus getting filler under the scar. the filler go's through a hole on the site of the trauma. and yes lumpiness is one of the side effects but it go;s away fairly quikly.
im treating mainly boxcar and ice pick scarring. my scarring is on both cheeks but my right cheek is the worst. they are clustered close to each other on my cheek and cheek bones. i recieved more improvement on my boxcar and ice picks then i have had with the rolling ones. i dont think there is any thing out there that gives you dramatic results in such a short amount of time.after my first treatment i am convinced with more treatment i will be satisfied with my skin appearence. only if i had known about airgent earlier.......
Oh wow! Congratulations! It must feel amazing to finally get improvement. I have similar scarring and I've felt fairly desperate at times since no treatment seemed very well suited for my type of scarring, or alternatively had very high risks (excisions etc). I'll definitely keep my eyes open if this becomes available within reasonable distance.
If this is a type of a filler (sorry if I'm mistaken, I'm not well-read on this yet), wouldn't it mean you'd have to keep having treatments at regular intervals? If it's a low-invasive procedure unlike laser with fairly short down time, I wouldn't mind.
Oh wow! Congratulations!
If this is a type of a filler (sorry if I'm mistaken, I'm not well-read on this yet), wouldn't it mean you'd have to keep having treatments at regular intervals? If it's a low-invasive procedure unlike laser with fairly short down time, I wouldn't mind.
thank you. trust me. ive been on the boards since 2008 super desperate researching my ass off to find something that can help my scars.5 years later i feel like i FINNALY found something that actually works , has studies behind it and can give long term improvement.
enerjet is filler and subcision in one. therefore your are left with long term improvement. the standard amount of treatments is only 3 spaced 3 months apart, im super exited for my second treatment in about 3 weeks!
You are right. When I called them, they said they don't do it any more because of "supplier issues". Don't know what means but I made an appointment with Dr Matta later for the 15th. I am at downtown, Brampton is farther than Richmond Hill but not significantly.
$670 is not bad if it gives some sort of detectable improvement. Like you, I have done quite a few treatments in the past years and many didn't seem to show any results despite the high cost.
Anyway, I will give it a shot.
Thanks No Hope. No Hope is exactly how I have been feeling all these years.
richmond hill no longer does enerjet. you have to go to brampton if your in ontario. downtime was a week for me it could be less for others. with tax it comees to about 670 cad. i got quite a few shots on right cheek and not as much on the left cheek. google Dr.matta for his clinics website.
You are right. When I called them, they said they don't do it any more because of "supplier issues". Don't know what means but I made an appointment with Dr Matta later for the 15th. I am at downtown, Brampton is farther than Richmond Hill but not significantly.
$670 is not bad if it gives some sort of detectable improvement. Like you, I have done quite a few treatments in the past years and many didn't seem to show any results despite the high cost.
Anyway, I will give it a shot.
Thanks No Hope. No Hope is exactly how I have been feeling all these years.
richmond hill no longer does enerjet. you have to go to brampton if your in ontario. downtime was a week for me it could be less for others. with tax it comees to about 670 cad. i got quite a few shots on right cheek and not as much on the left cheek. google Dr.matta for his clinics website.
your welcome. you got an appointment for the 15? i called cuople days Ago and they said there getting a new machine and waiting on it. how did they give u a date and not me that doesnnt make sense. did they mention anything about them getting a new model? thanx
It is just consultation. I asked if the procedure can be done on the same day, the receptionist said no. What you mentioned is probably why.
You are right. When I called them, they said they don't do it any more because of "supplier issues". Don't know what means but I made an appointment with Dr Matta later for the 15th. I am at downtown, Brampton is farther than Richmond Hill but not significantly.
$670 is not bad if it gives some sort of detectable improvement. Like you, I have done quite a few treatments in the past years and many didn't seem to show any results despite the high cost.
Anyway, I will give it a shot.
Thanks No Hope. No Hope is exactly how I have been feeling all these years.
richmond hill no longer does enerjet. you have to go to brampton if your in ontario. downtime was a week for me it could be less for others. with tax it comees to about 670 cad. i got quite a few shots on right cheek and not as much on the left cheek. google Dr.matta for his clinics website.
your welcome. you got an appointment for the 15? i called cuople days Ago and they said there getting a new machine and waiting on it. how did they give u a date and not me that doesnnt make sense. did they mention anything about them getting a new model? thanx
What treatments have yo
It is just consultation. I asked if the procedure can be done on the same day, the receptionist said no. What you mentioned is probably why.
You are right. When I called them, they said they don't do it any more because of "supplier issues". Don't know what means but I made an appointment with Dr Matta later for the 15th. I am at downtown, Brampton is farther than Richmond Hill but not significantly.
$670 is not bad if it gives some sort of detectable improvement. Like you, I have done quite a few treatments in the past years and many didn't seem to show any results despite the high cost.
Anyway, I will give it a shot.
Thanks No Hope. No Hope is exactly how I have been feeling all these years.
richmond hill no longer does enerjet. you have to go to brampton if your in ontario. downtime was a week for me it could be less for others. with tax it comees to about 670 cad. i got quite a few shots on right cheek and not as much on the left cheek. google Dr.matta for his clinics website.
your welcome. you got an appointment for the 15? i called cuople days Ago and they said there getting a new machine and waiting on it. how did they give u a date and not me that doesnnt make sense. did they mention anything about them getting a new model? thanx
What treatments have you done so far Allex? % improvment?
No HOPE, did you get your treatment on the day of your first consultation? I was thinking maybe I should reschedule until they have the new machine to save a 45 minutes trip which I need to take a day off for. I'd like to have the consultation AND treatment on the same visit if possible.
4meracneguy, I had several different types of treatment in the past 10 years. Some worked (TCA cross), some didn't help at all (frationate laser $2000, dermabrasion $1500). Some I am not sure (dermaroller, this pricey autologous thing, fillers etc) I don't know the % improvement... always a tough question. You know, results take a long time to happen and by the time if happened, you are used to it and don't really remember exactly you much worse you look 18 months ago. Oh man, I probably wasted over $20,000 in total on these different treatments. If I have to give a number, maybe 25%. I really can't give a higher one as I usually end up disappointed and frustrated than being encouraged. I haven't received any treatment for the past 2 years as I decided to stop wasting money but instead of use it on traveling (quite a few countries in the past 3 years). At least I get something real.
However at the end of the day, I am still not happy or confident. I am sure you guys know what I mean. I never talk about it with friends in life, except on this forum.