Hi There,

I bought the Dr Roller 3 Line, 1.5mm Derma roller and the Titanium Needle Derma stamp 1.5mm from Ebay. I just purchased a new Derma stamp from Ebay * Moderator Edit, No Links Allowed, review the board rules.* I would recommend that you do the treatments every 4-6 weeks as it gives the skin time to heal. My regime is as follows:

• Wash and dry the area to be treated
• Apply numbing cream for around 45 mins and wipe clean after
• Derma Roll/stamp skin, following instructions
• Clean area with Distilled witch hazel
• Use a collagen boosting cream (I use Terproline as suggested by another user from here).

I hope this helps. I totally agree with your comments about saliva, It is a natural healer and worth looking into. I will look at the links you sent, thanks for that. I will try anything that helps, this site is great as we can all help each other. Its good genuine advice, we are all in the same boat and its better to hear from real people that have tried and tested these treatments. But sometimes some people have different success than others, but it's all worth a try. I haven't tried Fat transfer yet but have thought a lot about it and would like to try. I hear Juvederm is good, but think our own fat may react better as it's our own and is less likely to be rejected. Are you in the UK? I am in the UK. I would like to chat with you some more, would be good to discuss our ideas.

I appreciate your response, I'm going to buy a derma roller soon. Can't wait to start rolling, what is your downtime like afterwards? Or was there any?If i used make up would that hide it? I got the idea of saliva, because many people have used it. Also, whenever I cry it starts healing my face, it's so weird actually. But there is so much LOGIC behind it that I could go on all day and explain why. I feel your emotions during healing are more important than anything. it's complicated..and no i don't live in the uk =/ but it's awesome having a friend there (you) you should check out my other thread i have recently started it contains good information and i hope it continues to grow

Not much down time really, around a day of redness but it all depends on your skin type. I usually do my treatments on a Friday night so i have the weekend to let my skin heal and breath. We are now Derma rolling friends lol. Are u in the UK? If so we can maybe talk over the phone if you want about this stuff

good to know people are from the UK!

So where did you get your derma stamp from? this in conjunction with a baiden mitten seems to be what you advocate? i ACTUALLY have a baiden mitten btw!

I am tempted to use a derma stamp though I have got shallow scaring from squeezing black heads out of my skin situated around my nose and the frontal cheek area (so when you look straight ahead) and unfortunately picking at an outbreak over a year ago that was caused from using emu oil... which ironically i was using to try and heal my skin... great

anyway the texture, tone and look of my skin is very patchy, red, pitted and it upsets me quite a bit, especially as i am a guy so cant just cover it with make up...

what does distilled witch hazel do? and where would you buy it? have you or anyone reading this used rose water before?

sorry for all the questions, its just you guys seem more knowledgable than me on this stuff and I dont know what route to take, thinking of microdermabrasion?

thanks so much for your time

Hi There,

I got my Derma stamp from EBAY: (New Titanium Needle Derma stamp Microneedle ) It cost £9.95.

Witch Hazel cleans and cools the skin after using the Derma roller/stamp. I use it but you don't have to follow what I do, It was suggested to me so I follow that regime now. You can buy from any chemist.

I also use Rose water after using the Baiden mitten, I dab onto my skin which helps soothe the skin, a bit like witch hazel, you can pick up quite cheaply from Asian supermarkets.

I try out different treatments, but they are not miracle cures! Its all about trial and error.

Best of luck

Hi There,

I bought the Dr Roller 3 Line, 1.5mm Derma roller and the Titanium Needle Derma stamp 1.5mm from Ebay. I just purchased a new Derma stamp from Ebay * Moderator Edit, No Links Allowed, review the board rules.* I would recommend that you do the treatments every 4-6 weeks as it gives the skin time to heal. My regime is as follows:

• Wash and dry the area to be treated
• Apply numbing cream for around 45 mins and wipe clean after
• Derma Roll/stamp skin, following instructions
• Clean area with Distilled witch hazel
• Use a collagen boosting cream (I use Terproline as suggested by another user from here).

I hope this helps. I totally agree with your comments about saliva, It is a natural healer and worth looking into. I will look at the links you sent, thanks for that. I will try anything that helps, this site is great as we can all help each other. Its good genuine advice, we are all in the same boat and its better to hear from real people that have tried and tested these treatments. But sometimes some people have different success than others, but it's all worth a try. I haven't tried Fat transfer yet but have thought a lot about it and would like to try. I hear Juvederm is good, but think our own fat may react better as it's our own and is less likely to be rejected. Are you in the UK? I am in the UK. I would like to chat with you some more, would be good to discuss our ideas.

I appreciate your response, I'm going to buy a derma roller soon. Can't wait to start rolling, what is your downtime like afterwards? Or was there any?If i used make up would that hide it? I got the idea of saliva, because many people have used it. Also, whenever I cry it starts healing my face, it's so weird actually. But there is so much LOGIC behind it that I could go on all day and explain why. I feel your emotions during healing are more important than anything. it's complicated..and no i don't live in the uk =/ but it's awesome having a friend there (you) you should check out my other thread i have recently started it contains good information and i hope it continues to grow

Not much down time really, around a day of redness but it all depends on your skin type. I usually do my treatments on a Friday night so i have the weekend to let my skin heal and breath. We are now Derma rolling friends lol. Are u in the UK? If so we can maybe talk over the phone if you want about this stuff

good to know people are from the UK!

So where did you get your derma stamp from? this in conjunction with a baiden mitten seems to be what you advocate? i ACTUALLY have a baiden mitten btw!

I am tempted to use a derma stamp though I have got shallow scaring from squeezing black heads out of my skin situated around my nose and the frontal cheek area (so when you look straight ahead) and unfortunately picking at an outbreak over a year ago that was caused from using emu oil... which ironically i was using to try and heal my skin... great

anyway the texture, tone and look of my skin is very patchy, red, pitted and it upsets me quite a bit, especially as i am a guy so cant just cover it with make up...

what does distilled witch hazel do? and where would you buy it? have you or anyone reading this used rose water before?

sorry for all the questions, its just you guys seem more knowledgable than me on this stuff and I dont know what route to take, thinking of microdermabrasion?

thanks so much for your time

Hi There,

I got my Derma stamp from EBAY: (New Titanium Needle Derma stamp Microneedle ) It cost £9.95.

Witch Hazel cleans and cools the skin after using the Derma roller/stamp. I use it but you don't have to follow what I do, It was suggested to me so I follow that regime now. You can buy from any chemist.

I also use Rose water after using the Baiden mitten, I dab onto my skin which helps soothe the skin, a bit like witch hazel, you can pick up quite cheaply from Asian supermarkets.

I try out different treatments, but they are not miracle cures! Its all about trial and error.

Best of luck

thanks for the reply. if you could link me in a private message the exact seller of the dermastamp, id appreciate it.

seems like good advice, rosewater would be a good addition i think to my regime. who recommended you your regime?

Sep. 24, 2013 Millions of people with scars suffer from pain, discomfort, and inability to perform regular activities. Some may have to revert to addicting pain medicine to get rid of their ailments. Now, and with a new methodology, such problems can be treated successfully. A technique using injection of the patient's own fat cells is an effective treatment for hard, contracted scars resulting from burns or other causes, reports a study in the September issue of The Journal of Craniofacial Surgery, edited by Mutaz B. Habal, MD, FRCSC, and published by Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, a part of Wolters Kluwer Health.

Datura, I'm thinking about having dermal grafts done and then a fat transfer to sagging, rolling type scars. I want to have dermal grafts done on boxcar and maybe a few ice picks. I'm curious to know how much it generally costs to receive dermal grafts. I have a doctor here in Indy that does it, but I am not sure how much skill is required behind it. From what I read, it seems like a relatively simple procedure. I don't want to get a lot of them done maybe like 16 at most? How is the skin afterwards? I read somewhere that the skin gets an odd texture if it is dry. I'm not too worried about that though, because I would rather have dry skin than a crater. I'm really impressed with the 90%+ improvement. That's fantastic & I'm genuinely happy for you. Sorry for all of the questions. Hope you can get back to me soon. Thanks so much.

Some doctors use subcision and then use fat transfer as a filler.

I have some questions about dermal grafts, if anyone could please answer.

I know they work best in small places and are more likely to take.

I wanted to know, do they look more normal than an acne scar?

I want to get this done, combined with a fat transfer to areas that just have tissue loss (when stretched they disappear.)

I have read mixed reviews on dermal grafts I am also confused are punch grafts and dermal grafts the same thing? What's the difference between them?

I'm going to try to go get dermal grafts done as soon as I get the money, but I'm hoping it's not too much.

Questions about dermal grafts

Do they look normal once the healing process is over?

How long is the healing process?

How long should you let the area avoid sun?

What methods, if any are used to "blend" the treated area. (Lasers, dermarolling, or just waiting until time passes)

Do the areas treated eventually gain pigment. For example, will they always remain lighter/darker than the surrounding skin?

Thanks so much please answer.

I have some questions about dermal grafts, if anyone could please answer.

I know they work best in small places and are more likely to take.

I wanted to know, do they look more normal than an acne scar?

I want to get this done, combined with a fat transfer to areas that just have tissue loss (when stretched they disappear.)

I have read mixed reviews on dermal grafts I am also confused are punch grafts and dermal grafts the same thing? What's the difference between them?

I'm going to try to go get dermal grafts done as soon as I get the money, but I'm hoping it's not too much.

Questions about dermal grafts

Do they look normal once the healing process is over?

How long is the healing process?

How long should you let the area avoid sun?

What methods, if any are used to "blend" the treated area. (Lasers, dermarolling, or just waiting until time passes)

Do the areas treated eventually gain pigment. For example, will they always remain lighter/darker than the surrounding skin?

Thanks so much please answer.

dermal graft & punch graft is two different thing, dermal graft is best to treat rolling scars and punch graft treat ice picks & boxcar scars.

I found this before & after pictures:

dermal graft:

punch graft:

fat transfer for fat lost:

Different scars treat with different surgery. After dermal / punch graft, 3-5 session of spot dermabrasion is required to smooth the graft / surface. Hope this helpful to you.