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I think timehealsall one scar should worry him a bit since he had no idea where it came from and it does look similar to others scars on here.
Iloveuk--You have really researched your condition alot and if you can not find a reason for it, I'm sure no doctor would be able to either. What type of drug did the derm want to give you? Was it something like prednisone? I took prednisone before because of my weird dermatitis and really it didn't help.
This is all why I don't go to the derm anymore for my issues, they just don't understand my problems either. I have a "worm" like raised scar on my face too, but it didn't just appear out of nowhere, I had odd blistering that just spread in the section. I really don't think it was infected, just really bad inflammation. The thing I find to help my skin most right now is not thinking to much about it and trying to de-stress. The mind is powerful and I think focusing on our skin can make it worse. But I also think there are real physical things going on. Who knows, maybe there is some type of viral thing going on within our skin. I had a doctor tell me one time that too much use of antibacterial products like polysporin or even the face washes that are strong, can cause other viral problems like fungus, etc. Maybe even your raw food diet has introduced some sort of virus into your system. Perhaps your immune system wasn't strong enough to fight something that was on the foods. Cleansing is not a cure all either. I respect your opinions, and truly feel for the people here who are desperate for solutions!
does wheat and bread contain any vitamin A?
Also, how much vitamin A do we need daily? Is vitamin A the only thing that causes this?
Seriously relaze!!! Stop worrying about YOUR ONE SCAR! If you get another scar out of nowhere, then you can maybe start worrying a little bit. Until then start living your life and one scar is nothing to care about.
Btw yes I actually had light seborric dermatatis for a while, but not any more...Do have this?
Iloveuk...My brother also did some dermarolling on his face a few months ago and then he got this weird really dry skin for like 2 days and then he also got these strange scars!!! But he doesnt get any any more! The thing is when I did my last dermarolling I got also this really strange dry skin and then this strange amvc started...Maybe its some kind of bacteria that spreads???
Yeah, I have though about the viral aspect too. Anything is possible I suppose. I think with the dermaroller it causes a lot of inflammation under the skin and some people's skin reacts by breaking down. Of course it's possible that some bacteria or virus gets into the skin. With my scarring I am getting random little pits everywhere - it almost looks like something is eating my skin from the inside. I have come into contact with a lady on another non-acne forum and she has this same issue as us, however she never took vitamin a, accutane, etc. However she does have Lyme Disease and was told it eats collagen. Maybe it's time for a Lyme test??
does wheat and bread contain any vitamin A?
Also, how much vitamin A do we need daily? Is vitamin A the only thing that causes this?
Not enough in non-animal foods to make a difference. If you eat a normal diet you are fine. Don't worry about it. If you are reasonably healthy and eat well you should get enough vitamin a.
If you start getting more than one scar or your skin condition changes rapidly, start worrying. Those of us with this random scarring see scars appear daily (in my case 5-10 on some days).
I think timehealsall one scar should worry him a bit since he had no idea where it came from and it does look similar to others scars on here.
Iloveuk--You have really researched your condition alot and if you can not find a reason for it, I'm sure no doctor would be able to either. What type of drug did the derm want to give you? Was it something like prednisone? I took prednisone before because of my weird dermatitis and really it didn't help.
This is all why I don't go to the derm anymore for my issues, they just don't understand my problems either. I have a "worm" like raised scar on my face too, but it didn't just appear out of nowhere, I had odd blistering that just spread in the section. I really don't think it was infected, just really bad inflammation. The thing I find to help my skin most right now is not thinking to much about it and trying to de-stress. The mind is powerful and I think focusing on our skin can make it worse. But I also think there are real physical things going on. Who knows, maybe there is some type of viral thing going on within our skin. I had a doctor tell me one time that too much use of antibacterial products like polysporin or even the face washes that are strong, can cause other viral problems like fungus, etc. Maybe even your raw food diet has introduced some sort of virus into your system. Perhaps your immune system wasn't strong enough to fight something that was on the foods. Cleansing is not a cure all either. I respect your opinions, and truly feel for the people here who are desperate for solutions!
The drug is an anti-malarial used for Lupus - Plaquenil. I have a hypersensitivity to drugs in this class and it is harsh on the liver. He actually said it would be unethical for him to give it to me based on my history and the lack of certainty that it would be appropriate in my case.
I think the vitamin a obviously caused this, whether it just over-activated my immune system, activated some rogue virus in my body, caused liver malfunction, or just made my skin too sensitive to the sun, whatever it does it did it. Maybe I haven't mentioned that I was actually hospitalized with vitamin a toxicity? So this is not just me thinking it may have been the cause. I also had kidney pain, muscle twitching, muscle aches, insomnia, tachycardia, bone pain, chills, and some other things I am not remembering right now, besides of course the messed up skin.
I think it is interesting that you also have a worm-like scar. How long have you had it? Has it diminished over time? Mine is on my right cheek and spreads horizontally across my cheek. It also has a depressed outline so it really stands out. It appeared out of nowhere about a month after this all started. A month after it appeared it spread even further across my cheek, in a matter of hours I watched it happen. Now I have a new, identical one forming across this same scar, only this one goes vertically up my cheek. This is the one that had me almost suicidal last week. I have no idea what is going on with these, but they are firm to the touch in comparison to the rest of the skin on my face. I have never had raised scars in my life, and don't know how to treat them or if they will ever soften up. I was already tested for scleroderma and came back negative so it's not that. Lupus is negative too.
Trying not to focus on them and it does work. My face still feels sunburned constantly even when I haven't been exposed to sunlight which drives me crazy but there is not much I can do for that right now.
would eating ground flaseed (mixing a tablespoon with milk) cause this? Wat about zinc supplements or biotin supplements? Last but not least, can taking a multivitamin that is high in vitamin A cause it? I have never taken accutane or used retina (or any related products).
I have gotten one scar that randomly came out of no where, but it is pretty big and i have no clue how i got it. If you search through the scar forums, for a topic labeled something as "random scar that spawned on my face" you can see a picture of what i mean. (I look very bad in the photo though, my PIH is terrible, and i look disheveled, so sorry for that)
Don't worry about the flaxseed, or any of the supplements unless you have ever taken accutane or vitamin a, which you haven't so you are fine. The multi won't have enough vitamin a to cause it. Zinc and biotin are fine and good for your skin. Btw did you ever have any inflammation where the scar showed up, any itching, burning, etc? What kind of facial products were you using at the time? Anything with AHA's ?
I didn't mention this before, because I'm not sure it will help with your type of scarring and I don't want to seem like I'm advertising, but when my inflammation was causing indented and clumpy looking scars that rose up as hard tissue and zig zagged a bit, the one thing that stopped the progression in it's tracks was soaking my face in salt water. I used Clarisea Sea Salts face soak, you can google it. I use it a little different than instructed as I put three scoops in hot water at first, but I wait till it really dissolves in their overnight and turns cold and then I soaked my face. At the time some lesions were broke open and it really helped heal faster, it basically shrunk the tissue that was expanding and spreading and killed whatever was down there. The more you can do it throughout the day the better. After a few weeks I really saw a difference. My older indented scars are still there of course, and I do still have outlines of raised scars, but I think I woud have scarred much worse from the breakout I had, if I hadn't used the salt water. Also, I took a lot of probiotics. The antibiotics I had got prescribed from the derm had just given me a yeast infection after two weeks. Probiotics helped to clear it up. Hope this helps someone!
I didn't mention this before, because I'm not sure it will help with your type of scarring and I don't want to seem like I'm advertising, but when my inflammation was causing indented and clumpy looking scars that rose up as hard tissue and zig zagged a bit, the one thing that stopped the progression in it's tracks was soaking my face in salt water. I used Clarisea Sea Salts face soak, you can google it. I use it a little different than instructed as I put three scoops in hot water at first, but I wait till it really dissolves in their overnight and turns cold and then I soaked my face. At the time some lesions were broke open and it really helped heal faster, it basically shrunk the tissue that was expanding and spreading and killed whatever was down there. The more you can do it throughout the day the better. After a few weeks I really saw a difference. My older indented scars are still there of course, and I do still have outlines of raised scars, but I think I woud have scarred much worse from the breakout I had, if I hadn't used the salt water. Also, I took a lot of probiotics. The antibiotics I had got prescribed from the derm had just given me a yeast infection after two weeks. Probiotics helped to clear it up. Hope this helps someone!
Wow thanks for the tip! I am going to try that asap! I have this same issue with the hard clumpy inflamed tissue right now so I need to do that.
I take Primal Defense probiotics and I agree that they are essential for everyone. Eating cultured veggies is good too (not everyone's tastes agree however)
Thank you Tricia 
Hope it helps! The salt water needs to be strong, and it never does dry my skin out at all. Obviously if you have broken skin it will sting and perhaps the tissue will swell more temporarily but then it scabs better and it drys out faster without infection. I swear I think putting ointment on my face was just trapping whatever was the problem under my skin... the skin would heal but that weird tissue was always under there and then would spread. I was thinking fungal problem, but doctor said didn't look like it to him and it didn't itch. I was tested for lupus too, but showed up negative. However, I think you can have the skin form of lupus (discoid) and not have the rest of it, perhaps it doesn't all show up on tests. I know I have a bad immune system, I had mono twice, and have some chronic fatigue from it. Overall, my skin is not horrible with acne, just these weird lesions I get that will scar. Good luck!
hey do you guys know if probiotics such as culturelle is a good form of probiotics?
To answer your questions iloveuk, the following are the products i used on my face:
cetaphil gentle cleanser
Olay moisturizer for sensitive skin spf 15 (classic gentle formula)
And DANS benzoyl peroxide.
Regarding the AHA, i just started using it on a small area of my nose because someone recommend me to use it to close up a little hole that a blackhead left after duac got rid of it. I never used aha on that spot where i got the scar. I use Dans AHA Btw. I must ask, why? Does AHA cause any sort of scarring? I also now use it as a spot treatment for pimples that are forming
To answer your other question, i dont ever recall any form of inflammation burning or tingling/itchy feeling. Like i said, i look at my face very closely every day (something i should fucking stop doing) and the day before, i didnt have the scar. I went to bed, and BAM it appeared on my face.
Now i know it is only one scar, and i shouldnt worry, but what worries me even more is that my brother has the SAME TYPE OF SCAR on his cheek in the exact same area except his isnt the same length as mine.
We do not sleep in the same room either, so it cant be sleepwalking and clawing ourselves?
Sorry for the long post..
hey do you guys know if probiotics such as culturelle is a good form of probiotics?
To answer your questions iloveuk, the following are the products i used on my face:
cetaphil gentle cleanser
Olay moisturizer for sensitive skin spf 15 (classic gentle formula)
And DANS benzoyl peroxide.
Regarding the AHA, i just started using it on a small area of my nose because someone recommend me to use it to close up a little hole that a blackhead left after duac got rid of it. I never used aha on that spot where i got the scar. I use Dans AHA Btw. I must ask, why? Does AHA cause any sort of scarring? I also now use it as a spot treatment for pimples that are forming
To answer your other question, i dont ever recall any form of inflammation burning or tingling/itchy feeling. Like i said, i look at my face very closely every day (something i should fucking stop doing) and the day before, i didnt have the scar. I went to bed, and BAM it appeared on my face.
Now i know it is only one scar, and i shouldnt worry, but what worries me even more is that my brother has the SAME TYPE OF SCAR on his cheek in the exact same area except his isnt the same length as mine.
We do not sleep in the same room either, so it cant be sleepwalking and clawing ourselves?
Sorry for the long post..
Yeah Culturelle is decent...
I was just wondering if you were irritating your face with anything when the scar showed up. In my experience, anything that irritates my skin can cause scars to show up. You would probably know if this was happening, so it probably isn't the case with you.
Did your brother's scar show up at the same time? Are you twins? That is pretty weird. I am at the point with this crap in my life where I would almost suggest alien abduction as a likely cause 
Sorry I just don't know what else to say. Keep an eye on your skin and be gentle with it, ok? Dryness and flakiness shouldn't cause scarring but to be on the safe side to prevent more scarring go easy on the harsh products...I know it's hard when you are trying to treat acne at the same time, but in my opinion having a little acne is not as bad as having these random lines show up across the face
hey do you guys know if probiotics such as culturelle is a good form of probiotics?
To answer your questions iloveuk, the following are the products i used on my face:
cetaphil gentle cleanser
Olay moisturizer for sensitive skin spf 15 (classic gentle formula)
And DANS benzoyl peroxide.
Regarding the AHA, i just started using it on a small area of my nose because someone recommend me to use it to close up a little hole that a blackhead left after duac got rid of it. I never used aha on that spot where i got the scar. I use Dans AHA Btw. I must ask, why? Does AHA cause any sort of scarring? I also now use it as a spot treatment for pimples that are forming
To answer your other question, i dont ever recall any form of inflammation burning or tingling/itchy feeling. Like i said, i look at my face very closely every day (something i should fucking stop doing) and the day before, i didnt have the scar. I went to bed, and BAM it appeared on my face.
Now i know it is only one scar, and i shouldnt worry, but what worries me even more is that my brother has the SAME TYPE OF SCAR on his cheek in the exact same area except his isnt the same length as mine.
We do not sleep in the same room either, so it cant be sleepwalking and clawing ourselves?
Sorry for the long post..
Yeah Culturelle is decent...
I was just wondering if you were irritating your face with anything when the scar showed up. In my experience, anything that irritates my skin can cause scars to show up. You would probably know if this was happening, so it probably isn't the case with you.
Did your brother's scar show up at the same time? Are you twins? That is pretty weird. I am at the point with this crap in my life where I would almost suggest alien abduction as a likely cause
yeah the only "harsh" product i use is dans 2.5 % benzoly peroxide because i am following the regimen. It is very hard to avoid the dryness/peeling that comes with it, so i will try my best to avoid that as much as possible.
Also, i noticed that a similar scar to the one i posted showed up on my pinky? i am not sure how long it was their, but i just saw it today.
Regarding my brother, we are twins, and he said he never noticed it until i saw it on his face ( i wanted to see if he had it as well). So i have no clue how he got it. 
guys i read somewhere on this read that someone took doxycycline and that caused him to scar? He said he got seborrheic dermatitis from taking it and that caused scarring?
Do you guys know anything about that?
Also, what is considered a "healthy diet?"
last but not least, i only got one scar, but i am worried as i have no clue how i got it and it looks similar to the ones on this thread. Should i start taking the borage oil or GLA thing you guys talked about earlier or should i wait to see if i get anymore?
wow, i just looked in the mirror thoroughly and call me crazy but i noticed another scar close to my sideburn/temple area! It was there before because i saw it, but i never really thought much of it.
It looks very similar to a scar that praise posted a picture of. I dont know how to describe it, but it isnt a linear line, it is more like a shallow boxcar scar? I dunno, but i am 100 percent sure i never had a pimple there.
Should i start taking some measures to prevent this? Do i have AMVC?
i do not know if i am suffering from this, but for those who are, here is something i found interesting:
it is from wikipeida, but what the hell i will post it
"There is at least one anecdotal report of the condition being associated with laying of bare arms on the face areas during sleep, possibly transferring some particular bacterial flora, that may normally reside near the arm pits, to the face."
From what i have read on this thread, most people seem to get it after they sleep and then wake up! Maybe we should try sleeping without our arms close to our faces or wearing long sleeves?
guys i read somewhere on this read that someone took doxycycline and that caused him to scar? He said he got seborrheic dermatitis from taking it and that caused scarring?
Do you guys know anything about that?
Also, what is considered a "healthy diet?"
last but not least, i only got one scar, but i am worried as i have no clue how i got it and it looks similar to the ones on this thread. Should i start taking the borage oil or GLA thing you guys talked about earlier or should i wait to see if i get anymore?
A healthy diet is gonna mean different things to everyone, but what we are focusing on here in this thread is making sure that you aren't taking fish oils or vitamin a supplements. I wouldn't worry about eggs, cheese, or carrots causing a vitamin a overdose. It's pretty impossible.
Seb derm can cause scarring, but that wouldn't be AMVC. What we are dealing with here are scars showing up on fairly healthy skin. Antibiotics themselves could possibly cause AMVC by interacting with the immune system in a way that causes it to begin attacking the body's tissues.
wow, i just looked in the mirror thoroughly and call me crazy but i noticed another scar close to my sideburn/temple area! It was there before because i saw it, but i never really thought much of it.
It looks very similar to a scar that praise posted a picture of. I dont know how to describe it, but it isnt a linear line, it is more like a shallow boxcar scar? I dunno, but i am 100 percent sure i never had a pimple there.
Should i start taking some measures to prevent this? Do i have AMVC?
i do not know if i am suffering from this, but for those who are, here is something i found interesting:
it is from wikipeida, but what the hell i will post it
"There is at least one anecdotal report of the condition being associated with laying of bare arms on the face areas during sleep, possibly transferring some particular bacterial flora, that may normally reside near the arm pits, to the face."
From what i have read on this thread, most people seem to get it after they sleep and then wake up! Maybe we should try sleeping without our arms close to our faces or wearing long sleeves?
I read that from wiki too. I think we may be dealing with a virus/bug/infection of some sort (possibly) but highly doubt it originates in the armpits. I don't know where they got that idea
guys i read somewhere on this read that someone took doxycycline and that caused him to scar? He said he got seborrheic dermatitis from taking it and that caused scarring?
funny, that was me and I just found this thread to ask about the scars I have been getting. Ive always had seb derm, the doxy made it flair up, ever since then I have been getting random depressions. My skin is back to the pount prior to doxy and the seb derm outbreak but I still get random scars and depressions.
The thing that gets me is they happen every once in awhile, sometimes i don't even notice a new one. Next thing I know over the coarse of a month I have 10+ new scars. Its been 8 months since ive been noticing this and my face has gone from one scar to uncountable numbers. I have some depressions the size of a quarter. Its really weird and sucks hard
guys i read somewhere on this read that someone took doxycycline and that caused him to scar? He said he got seborrheic dermatitis from taking it and that caused scarring?
funny, that was me and I just found this thread to ask about the scars I have been getting. Ive always had seb derm, the doxy made it flair up, ever since then I have been getting random depressions. My skin is back to the pount prior to doxy and the seb derm outbreak but I still get random scars and depressions.
The thing that gets me is they happen every once in awhile, sometimes i don't even notice a new one. Next thing I know over the coarse of a month I have 10+ new scars. Its been 8 months since ive been noticing this and my face has gone from one scar to uncountable numbers. I have some depressions the size of a quarter. Its really weird and sucks hard
That sounds like an autoimmune issue triggered by the doxy. It seems like many of us have something like that going on, whether triggered by antibiotics, Accutane, Vitamin A, etc.. Of course it seems that whatever it is doesn't show up on tests for Lupus and things of that nature. Do you get linear scars or just the depressed circles? Do your scars improve in appearance over time? Have you tried any scar treatments on them? Are they mostly on your cheeks or everywhere? Has your skin become more sensitive in general since this began? Do you have other issues like joint pain, stomach pain, digestive issues, headaches? Sorry for all the questions.
What area of the country do you live in/have you lived in? Weird question, but I am sort of trying to form a deeper connection here between all of us and what we might have been exposed to at some point. I grew up in Connecticut but have also lived in Alaska and now live in Arizona...
If others could answer some of these too it would be very helpful, thanks
guys i read somewhere on this read that someone took doxycycline and that caused him to scar? He said he got seborrheic dermatitis from taking it and that caused scarring?
funny, that was me and I just found this thread to ask about the scars I have been getting. Ive always had seb derm, the doxy made it flair up, ever since then I have been getting random depressions. My skin is back to the pount prior to doxy and the seb derm outbreak but I still get random scars and depressions.
The thing that gets me is they happen every once in awhile, sometimes i don't even notice a new one. Next thing I know over the coarse of a month I have 10+ new scars. Its been 8 months since ive been noticing this and my face has gone from one scar to uncountable numbers. I have some depressions the size of a quarter. Its really weird and sucks hard
That sounds like an autoimmune issue triggered by the doxy. It seems like many of us have something like that going on, whether triggered by antibiotics, Accutane, Vitamin A, etc.. Of course it seems that whatever it is doesn't show up on tests for Lupus and things of that nature. Do you get linear scars or just the depressed circles? Do your scars improve in appearance over time? Have you tried any scar treatments on them? Are they mostly on your cheeks or everywhere? Has your skin become more sensitive in general since this began? Do you have other issues like joint pain, stomach pain, digestive issues, headaches? Sorry for all the questions.
What area of the country do you live in/have you lived in? Weird question, but I am sort of trying to form a deeper connection here between all of us and what we might have been exposed to at some point. I grew up in Connecticut but have also lived in Alaska and now live in Arizona...
If others could answer some of these too it would be very helpful, thanks
i still think its a lot simplier than that. my spontaneous scarring stopped once i started including evening primrose oil into my diet.
ok, this is really starting to freak me out. I looked in the mirror, and BAM another fucking scar close to my eyebrow area. I need to get a good camera so i can post better photos, but what the fuck is going on????
Someone please help me!!!!! Anyone that solved their amvc on this thread, what exactly did you do?
The following is my diet: i eat a lot of bread (homemade wheat flour and corn flour it contains no preservatives and it is natural). I also eat yogurt, chick peas, pinto beans, lentils, basically indian food (i am of asian indian origin). I eat lots of fruits on a daily basis such as apples, strawbeeries, blueberries, cherries, bananas, watermelon, blackberries. I also eat vegetables, but they are usually cooked vegetables that my mom makes during dinner (probably 2-3x a week maybe more) such as carrots and broccoli and peas. I also eat pasta (organic pasta) and i drink low fat milk 1 percent about 2x a day.
i am not taking any supplements atm, but i did take ground flaxseed (1 tablespoon daily for a month) but this was 5 months ago. I also supplemented with zinc and biotin but i discontinued
that. Also, in my food, my mom pours some organic olive oil as well.
The only topicals that i am using on my face is Dans BP, Cetaphil gentle cleanser, jojoba oil, dans moisturizer, and thats it.
i have never taken accutane, never had high doses of vitamin a (only took a typical multivitamin for a month) I am also currently on doxycycline hyclate 100mg 2x a day (i currently have 3 scars, 2 showed up before doxy, and the other 1 during doxy).
The areas that i got these scars did not have pimples and it is really fucking worrying me..
I actually had light seborric dermatatis before I got the scarring...I got it when I was working night shift in norway for about 8 months..Think something happened to my body after that. These days I need to pee every night and also I wake up sometimes that my right hand has fallen asleep...I dont really have joint pain but but my left wrist doesnt feel good....
Seb derm can cause scarring, but that wouldn't be AMVC. What we are dealing with here are scars showing up on fairly healthy skin. Antibiotics themselves could possibly cause AMVC by interacting with the immune system in a way that causes it to begin attacking the body's tissues.
Where have you read that sub derm can create scarring???
guys i read somewhere on this read that someone took doxycycline and that caused him to scar? He said he got seborrheic dermatitis from taking it and that caused scarring?
funny, that was me and I just found this thread to ask about the scars I have been getting. Ive always had seb derm, the doxy made it flair up, ever since then I have been getting random depressions. My skin is back to the pount prior to doxy and the seb derm outbreak but I still get random scars and depressions.
The thing that gets me is they happen every once in awhile, sometimes i don't even notice a new one. Next thing I know over the coarse of a month I have 10+ new scars. Its been 8 months since ive been noticing this and my face has gone from one scar to uncountable numbers. I have some depressions the size of a quarter. Its really weird and sucks hard
That sounds like an autoimmune issue triggered by the doxy. It seems like many of us have something like that going on, whether triggered by antibiotics, Accutane, Vitamin A, etc.. Of course it seems that whatever it is doesn't show up on tests for Lupus and things of that nature. Do you get linear scars or just the depressed circles? Do your scars improve in appearance over time? Have you tried any scar treatments on them? Are they mostly on your cheeks or everywhere? Has your skin become more sensitive in general since this began? Do you have other issues like joint pain, stomach pain, digestive issues, headaches? Sorry for all the questions.
What area of the country do you live in/have you lived in? Weird question, but I am sort of trying to form a deeper connection here between all of us and what we might have been exposed to at some point. I grew up in Connecticut but have also lived in Alaska and now live in Arizona...
If others could answer some of these too it would be very helpful, thanks
i still think its a lot simplier than that. my spontaneous scarring stopped once i started including evening primrose oil into my diet.
I have been taking EPO for a long time now and scarring has only gotten worse. However I'm glad it has worked for you