When the packing indicates that the medical device is sterile and has needles longer than 0.3 mm and can be used several times. Copiers often say that their roller can be sterilized at home by submerging it in alcohol or other detergents. Dont do it! Alcohol is not a sterilizer, it only can disinfect to a certain extent, but an AIDS virus is not killed.
WTF I wanna get rid of all these damn scars, but I don't wanna get AIDS! Someone please tell me this is just fear mongering @_@
When the packing indicates that the medical device is sterile and has needles longer than 0.3 mm and can be used several times. Copiers often say that their roller can be sterilized at home by submerging it in alcohol or other detergents. Dont do it! Alcohol is not a sterilizer, it only can disinfect to a certain extent, but an AIDS virus is not killed.WTF I wanna get rid of all these damn scars, but I don't wanna get AIDS! Someone please tell me this is just fear mongering @_@
You won't get aids unless you share your roller with someone who is infected or you already have it. They were just making a point that alcohol can't kill all bacteria.
When the packing indicates that the medical device is sterile and has needles longer than 0.3 mm and can be used several times. Copiers often say that their roller can be sterilized at home by submerging it in alcohol or other detergents. Dont do it! Alcohol is not a sterilizer, it only can disinfect to a certain extent, but an AIDS virus is not killed.WTF I wanna get rid of all these damn scars, but I don't wanna get AIDS! Someone please tell me this is just fear mongering @_@
You won't get aids unless you share your roller with someone who is infected or you already have it. They were just making a point that alcohol can't kill all bacteria.
Ah, ok. I was wondering what kind of manufacturing plants these people were producing their dermarollers from, that I'd get aids along with my product. D'oh 😯
I got this from one of the links posted in the first post.Innocent consumers are often the targets of ruthless copy pirates. These days more or less everything is forged from a Rolex, car spare parts to medical devices, and unfortunately this applies also for the Dermaroller. Curious persons want to buy the ORIGINAL but also want to save some money and once they have paid and received the order, it is too late and they are disappointed victims. No doubt, the Internet is a fantastic tool to obtain information, but it is also a platform for pirates. They even have no scruples to misuse protected Trademarks , may it be on their copy products or websites. They sell, abscond and the consumer holds the short end of the stick.
From our point of view to copy a medical device, offer it to the public on Internet platforms and to invite people for self-treatment is a crime. The copiers often claim their product is MADE in XXX, but matter of fact most originate from some backyard outlets. They also claim and imprint on their packing it is FDA approved or CE-marked. All this is totally wrong and actually a criminal act in the USA and European Countries.
Can I use the FDA logo? The FDA logo should not be used to misrepresent the agency nor to suggest that FDA endorses any private organization, product, or service. Misuse of the FDA logo may violate federal law and subject those responsible to criminal penalties.
They also claim their product is sterile but have no validated proof. How can a consumer be sure that this copy was not used before and that it is not contaminated with a dangerous virus? He or She simply cant. Even when listed with the FDA this does not mean the device is in accordance with the governmental regulations. Any medical device made or imported in the US must comply with the FDA regulations Part 820. If they dont they are considered as an adulteration.
We know it is very difficult for a layperson to figure out what is right and what is wrong. And in order to guide you to the ORIGINAL the GENUINE and to bring some light in this jungle, here are some useful hints how to differentiate the copy from the Original.
Never buy a Medical Device Class I or II (needle roller):
When the packing indicates that it is FDA approved or if it carries the FDA logo. If you are in doubt, contact the FDA. Ask the vendor to show you a copy of the approval.
When the packing has no CE-mark followed with a 4-diget number. This 4-diget number indicates the European Notified Body that approved the instrument as a medical device that can be freely traded and is in conformity with the European Regulations, Annex V. Ask the vendor to show such a Certificate of Conformity issued in the name of the manufacturer and where it is registered. If he cant, it is an illegal device or in many cases this CE-mark is forget.
When the packing carries the imprint GMP. This means Good Manufacturing Practice and is similar to the European ISO 13485 (International Organization of Standardization). Ask the vendor for the GMP Certificate issued in the name of the manufacturer. If you are in doubt ask the FDA.
When the packing indicates that the medical device is sterile and has needles longer than 0.3 mm and can be used several times. Copiers often say that their roller can be sterilized at home by submerging it in alcohol or other detergents. Dont do it! Alcohol is not a sterilizer, it only can disinfect to a certain extent, but an AIDS virus is not killed.
When you are invited to treat your self with a needle roller, especially when needles are longer than 0.2 mm. Such an invitation you often can read on the vendors Internet site. Dont do it!
Needles, also those of a needle roller, are invasive instruments, and if they are not guaranteed sterile they will transport bacteria into the dermis. This can result in blood poisoning, massive infections with possible and permanent disfigurement of your skin. Therefore any needle roller with needles longer than 0.2 mm is a SINGLE USE DISPOSABLE instrument.
When you buy rollers from the Internet with needles longer than 1.5 mm you risk severe tissue damage, vessel and nerve rupture and nasty haematomas, and more
Never apply a numbing cream outside a doctors office on your skin. Numbing creams, especially those without GMP approval, can lead to a fatal anaphylactic shock.
Copy Pirates never produce any scientific evidence. Their aim is the quick Dollar and a fooled consumer. Copiers only imitate but without engineering knowledge. They often use third class steel, thick and dull needles, and hazardous materials. Dont get fooled, even these copies have an appealing lock.
LIABILITY. Please keep in mind one very important point: Copiers never hold a liability insurance for their device in case something happens. No insurance company will underwrite a risk if the vendor or manufacturer is not GMP or ISO certified.
Dont be taken in by such trademark infringements spelled and written in various ways such as: dermarollers (with an s at the end) derma-roller Dermaroller-planet Scientia Derma Roller MTS Roller Dr-roller and so on. These copiers hardly produce any scientific papers and often steel text and pictures from our website sad but true.
We invented and patented the Dermaroller in the year 2000. It is a fantastic, simple and most effective instrument for skin improvement and acknowledged by physicians all over the world.
Except the Home Care Dermaroller with its harmless short needles of 0.2 mm, a Dermaroller, especially the medical version, belongs in the hands of a trained and licensed skin care professional. Only the professional has the knowledge of skin anatomy and knows when and how to use the Dermaroller. The treatment of acne scars or stretch marks is far less expensive than other ablative procedures. Please, contact a physician and never treat yourself! All medical Dermarollers are SINGLE USE DISPOSABLE instruments that must be disposed after use according to regulations!
Our Engineering Company Dermaroller S.a.r.l., based in Germany, manufactures the ORIGINAL, the GENUINE Dermaroller. We are the only company worldwide that produces the Dermaroller according to ISO 13485, the international standard for Medical Devices. (See our certificate of Conformity below). It was our company that has initiated many medical articles, case studies and findings in cooperation with various Universities, Clinics and Physicians worldwide. Because your skin is our concern and for many good reasons we never sell medical devices to laypersons, only to physicians via our international affiliated distributors.
If you love your skin and in case it should be treated to the better, look for professional help. And if you are in doubt or if you have a question well always be strived to give you an honest answer.
Yours Sincerely
The Dermaroller Team
http://dermaroller.wordpress.com/2009/08/1...ginal-and-copy/
I was thinking of dermarolling and not even being aggressive, but now I'm scared.
I ordered mine from Ebay. When I received it I disinfected it by sticking it in boiling water then I let it sit in peroxide for 1/2 an hour. Finally I washed it again with soap brush and let it sit in alcohol for another 1/2 hour. I think if you take the proper steps to disinfect it you'll be fine. Doctor's reuse all there tools and have some medical assistant or nurse clean everything. Your in the hands of a medical assistant basically and doctor.
Get a 1.5 mm roller.
Roll over your scars in the star pattern, like 5-10 times in each direction (up, down, left, right, and both diagonals). Then apply Retin-A at night and a Vitamin C serum (I can give you a recipe to make your own) in the morning. Use the topicals daily (if your skin can handle daily Retin-A or just use as often as your skin can handle), but don't dermaroll again for a month.
Yeah, that guy rolled daily, but people generally seem to see better results by waiting about a month between rolls.
I can go more into detail if you would like.
And as for the fact that yours are spread out, then you don't need to roll like your whole face, just roll over the scars (not the space in between). Or you could roll your whole face if you wanted to.
hello. i am 27 years old and i have some scars on both my cheeks. i have to get rid of these scars. I am inspired from the derma rolling and ordered a 1,5mm one. this week i will recieve it and i will start my own treatment. but i want to know what should i use before and after the treatment to make it more effective. can you please help me about what i should use during this treatment like vitamins creams oils?
i have some photos but couldnt linked here if you help me about this i can send some photos of my face. ty
I'm not sure if that was her issue or not, but I don't think it's possible to be too careful when it comes to dermarolling as far as sanitation, which is why I'm getting the UV sanitizer. But I agree, it is important to cleanse and sanitize the face, perhaps even prep with an antibacterial lotion/cream before and after dermarolling, which I'm still looking into! I've got a 1.0 mm roller, hoping to treat my ice pick scars and enlarged pores, as well as the expression lines on my forehead, which seem to have the worst kind of scarred pores in the lines themselves (like connect the dots ) It's just a nit picky thing, but it'd certainly make me tons happy if they were gone
Hi guys. I've recently been looking at dermarolling. I went to a doc and they recommended paxil laser. I'm very reluctant to try that, and it's pretty expensive.
I've some dermarollers on ebay for not that much. Or should I stick with the Dr. Roller? What size would be best for my scars (look at the scars below)? They really destroy my confidence a lot, and I think they look awful. I'm thinking of the 1.5 as my scars seem a little deep?
Also, should I get the cream that he's selling too? If not, then what kind of creams should I use? Retin A? or Vit A/E? I also read something about taking Vit C tablets. I know they should be applied at the dermaroller session, but what about the morning? Just use a regular facial cleanser (and sunscreen)?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
I've been rolling my face for a year and a half now and the results were great. I'm not sure if it's because of the needling or because of contractubex, but who cares. I used to have dark, red spots and depressed scars on my face, and now they're barely noticeable, about 80-90% improvement. I was about to give up after 4 sessions (6 months) because I didn't see any results on my depressed scars but I just continued rolling to get rid of the dark spots.
I just saw how great the results of skin needling today when I saw my face in the mirror under direct sunlight. I hate walking under the sun since my depressed scars looked worse (specially around noon).
You guys don't know how happy I am. So I'm here telling you guys to continue rolling.
It definitely works and it's a hell of a lot cheaper than laser resurfacing!!!
Also, sulfur soap and erythromycin helped clear up my acne.
What length of needles did you use?.........1.5mm
How often did you roll?.........every 6-8 weeks
How much pressure did you use rolling?.......I could break the roller. lol
What topicals did you use in conjunction with rolling?........just erythromycin after washing my face (after rolling to remove blood).