Just to let you know honeymaid, I support your position.

But there is a difference. I've seen what Khan's treatment accomplishes, and I don't know about everyone else, but by my standarts, those results are a joke.

Are you really the only one who understands what I am saying. All I am doing is questioning why people are believing this without verifiable before and after pictures. Is that wrong? In another thread, I saw someone who chronicled his journey with Dr. khan and he had some success but you cannot really tell something is a reliable procedure without an appropriate sample size. This is what's wrong with many people they are quick to believe anything under the sun and when that doesn't work out they will just wait for the next snake oil salesmen to come along to be disappointed again.

Whoa. Calm down. I am just trying to understand why people are quick to believe results without verifiable before and after pictures. There's no need to attack me. I just don't think it makes much sense to believe someone achieved significant results without before and after pictures. How long the post may be is inconsequential to what I am saying. Furthermore, how is asking for proof a "meaningless detail?"

I am not attacking you, I am just trying to understand why it's so important that people post before and after photos in a thread meant for information and discussion. I mean, there are already before and after photos posted in another thread, so what difference does it make? I never said asking for "proof" was meaningless, I said getting hung up on where people post their photos was.

Oh my. All of this nastiness for being skeptical. Geez. I'm sorry for asking for proof. I'm sorry for not believing that this may be a credible procedure because one or two people may have had positive results. I did not know that would be an issue.

@Scars4Life

I do not think you have a tortured soul not anymore than anyone with visible acne scars on their face. I hope this does not discourage you from continuing to post here. It does not seem very welcoming on this site if you disagree but I will continue to give it a try.

ya i do agree that why ppl claiming good result but not before and after picture..it gives me (perhap i think most of the ppl in this forum) like this is a scam and this Dr khan has some interest with some ppl in this forum..because ppl with acne scar are all waiting for a miracle so this emotion can be easily manupulated...and this is the largest forum in the world with millions of ppl coming into this forum and they really got a big market here...so i wish most of the ppl can join me...i do challenge those ppl claiming to have good fu*king result from this Dr so and so can provide a picture to prove it..otherwise it is just a scam...hey acne suffer pls join me..challenge them

Oh please, don't make me laugh. Troubled soul, lol. As far as shrinks go, maybe you should have seen one, alot of people in here who have at least some moderate scarring, could only wish to have the skin you had prior to your Stem Cell treatment, and if they did have it, I am sure they would have never invested as much as you did in trying to fix it. On another note, from what I hear, asside from injecting stem cells into your scars, Khan also does subcision and then injects fat on that space that he just made through subcision. Now come on, if someones skin did plump up, wouldn't you think injecting extra fat had something to do with it. As far as success goes, I know of a couple who had non, and then there is you and perhaps someone else who I am not aware of that did have, but so far nothing compared to what is seen on the first page. If your happy with your "100% results" then I think you should be fine and move on with your life, and leave all this treatment merrygoround behind. But of course knowing you, you are probably getting another treatment done aren't you. Well good luck with that.

@nucerity

Take your advertising somewhere else.

Hello, Can anyone please recommend a Dr. for PRP Therapy. I live in the United States am willing to travel to other countries, but would prefer to find a very qualified caring Dr. as close to home as possible.

icaretohelp- did you get a better result with PRP or stem cell treatment? would u recommed both treatment? or just stem cell?

you dont know how bad my scarring looked. im sorry if you dont consider me tough enough..it seems you attack nearly everyone on this forum for having scarring which apparantly isnt anything compared to yours. Well tough luck. I didnt even have fat injected..just the stem cells with growth factors and prp.but i had deep atrophy..i had TISSUE that was eaten up by the staphh bacteria you little shithead. So i could not NOT have deep atrophy.( its worse then cystic acne) Dr Khan is doing something no one else is doing and is constantly upgrading his treatments. Whether or not your happy with my before picture is actualy about as relelvent as your constant trivial blabbering. When people ask you what happened to your face at work..i think that makes what you say irrelevent. Yes i dont care about your suffering.

You know NOTHING of this treatment. It has worked wonders on me and the photos were there to see. Im one of the few people here who actualy allowed my photos to be shown to anyone who askes for them. Everyone from my family and friends are astounded by how much my skin improved. Every derm i saw before dr khan said the same thing..you have deep dermis scarring. oh btw I didnt see any photos from dr derry and yet you seem to have some kind of affilation with his protocol...dumbass.

i didnt even get subsicion. i choose to continue to go to dr khan as he is bringing be as close to scarless healing as i could have possibly come...i was on this forum way before you and before i even had ANY scarring. I have done more for this board then you ever will. I have no issues with you stating your doubts..but as you havent even posted your pics..ill just presume your scars are moderate..much like you presume based on 1 photo that my scars are non existant..your not clever..nor are you helpful..your just an angry sod. How about this tough guy..call his clinic and tell him why the treatment is bullshit.you might get some answers then..BRD isnt a buffoon..nor is dr khan. You certainly are...ask for more pics from other patients..WHICH I have seen..all aside from maybe 1 have had terrific results...and this is only in its infancy! hes upgrading constantly and understanding more. what are other dr;s doing..urrrrr fraxel repair..urrrr..lugols solution? LMAO

Im not making any money out of this..dr khan is one of the few drs that gets up his ass and listens to his patients.

good luck..go take your negativity elsehwere.

Do you really think your point comes across better if you insult someone? It's more likely the opposite is true, don't you think?

I understand that you don't like it when people second guess you but there is really no need for this kind of hostility. It's not constructive.

there are 10 of millions of acne sufferers in this world and this numbers going to be crazy for country in asia..if he really comes up with such a miracle to cure acne scar for more than 60% (just for assumption), only 60% can him one of the most popular figure in the plastic surgery industry..how come his name not even known in everywhere of the world?? and his procedure has been constantly described my derma who is a professor from university of singapore as a crap and hoax..and also how come in the world only less than 10 persons have been keep on reporting their good results but not thousands of them...i think a primary school students can know what is happening?? we are acne scar sufferer but not mental problem sufferer..dont insult our intelligience..seeing is believing..

sorry. Some people like Scars4life in my view are the most useless of ''contributers'' in this forum. I never said this was the holy grail. i said this has worked for me and dr khan is constantly upgrading his treatments. I appreciate this. there are some people here who have even claimed im working for dr khan..i understand skeptism but what have i done wrong? i showed ppl photos..informed the clininc anyone can view my photos and people seem to think every single post regarding dr khans procedure is a hoax.

Il be frank here i dont like talk. I would love nothing more then someone to come on this board and inform everyone of another dr doing this as comphrensivly as khan is and THAT IS ACTUALY available. What i find more comedic is that scars4life mentions the first photos at the start of this thread from the clinic in china..and says they are legit and then bashes mine which are far more clear then those 1990's quiality photos..of which only 1 had any scarring ..the others were tiny pock marks..

who in reality is being helpful here anyway? i hear a lot of talk..a lot of emails..but i see no breakthrough..im still getting PM:s..i have gone as far as talkign to ppl on the phone about the treatment but enough is enough..ive paid my dues.

I don't know why some people are perhaps a tad abrasive. Maybe they're frustrated? I don't know. And as far as nobody here being helpful... I don't entirely agree on that. But maybe some people think that they just can't do anything? Who knows?

In any case, I appreciate your efforts and I wish you all the best. I'm glad the stem cell treatment suited you as well as it did.

Has anyone gone to Japan for PRP therapy at the Seishin Regenerative Medicine Center? There is a new treatment that is called the Premium PRP that contains white blood cells that is supposed to be much more effective.

If BRD is reading, can you please clarify if adding the white blood cells is 3x more effective as is claimed.

there are 10 of millions of acne sufferers in this world and this numbers going to be crazy for country in asia..if he really comes up with such a miracle to cure acne scar for more than 60% (just for assumption), only 60% can him one of the most popular figure in the plastic surgery industry..how come his name not even known in everywhere of the world?? and his procedure has been constantly described my derma who is a professor from university of singapore as a crap and hoax..and also how come in the world only less than 10 persons have been keep on reporting their good results but not thousands of them...i think a primary school students can know what is happening?? we are acne scar sufferer but not mental problem sufferer..dont insult our intelligience..seeing is believing..

This isn't true though. Lets assume Dr.Khan does have a very good treatment; it still wont be accepted or adopted by other medical professionals until there is enough data to support it. This will only happen once he publishes and others doctors invest into the procedure and then they publish their results as well. For the time being, one can consider this procedure more experimental than anything.

Hello guys, I haven't been on this forum for a while, but I decided to come here to give some updates, as some of other posts here have been helpful for me.

I had my second fraxel + PRP treatment yesterday, and the results from my previous one are encouraging.

What I've done so far:

- 2 dermabrasions (years ago, didn't help)

- (at least) 20 restylane injections (they help of course, but only temporarily)

- excisions and scar revisions (long story, but I don't recommend)

- TCA combined with dermabrasion (helped a little, but took a long time to heal)

- one TotalFX laser treatment (same thing)

- fraxel restore (low settings) combined with PRP.

So far, I think I got best results from this prp thing. It took at least one month before I started to see any results. When it had been 3 months since this treatment, one of my ugliest scars started to look much better. In other scars, results are not that impressive. But results are really good if you compare it to the ridiculously minimal downtime (2-3 days).

Right now I look like the female version of freddy krueger but I know this will get better in day or two.

I know this prp thing is a little bit different than those stem cell treatments people are having here, but I decided to write in this thread, as prp has been discussed here too.

I know my journey with these treatments has only begun - I'm going to have as many treatments as needed, hell I'll have 15 treatments if I continue to see improvement. I'm quite eager to try all new treatments, so I'm also interested in Matrix RF.

I know my skin will never be perfect, but I hope to get a good improvement. PRP isn't a miracle and you need to have several treatments, but it is a good option to be considered. Besides, it can be (and should be) combined with other treatments, such as needling or lasers.

Right now I'm wondering should I go buy some collagen capsules to enhance collagen rebuilding - has anyone tried them?

I will ask my Derma about this. And I am totally conscious of what scars that my acne would leave in my face

missElegia- did you get a better result from PRP injection or DeepFX? I recently did PRP injection my first time and I do see some results... but other derm recommended me DeepFX... Also, how much percent did it improve you after doing PRP injection? how many times did you do? why 15times? isn't that too much? I am planning to do about 6times and then do stem cell treatment.

missElegia- did you get a better result from PRP injection or DeepFX? I recently did PRP injection my first time and I do see some results... but other derm recommended me DeepFX... Also, how much percent did it improve you after doing PRP injection? how many times did you do? why 15times? isn't that too much? I am planning to do about 6times and then do stem cell treatment.

I said that I'll do 15 treatments if I need to, not that I'm planning to do so many. 😉 Right now I'm planning to do at least 2 more treatments, and then I'll see what is the result and what my options are. I just meant that I'm so committed to improve my skin that I'll do everything I can.

I think I got a better result from fraxel restore + prp than from deepfx. What I hated about deepfx was that it took ages to heal. I went to work 7 days after the treatment, but it took at least 4 months for the redness to fade away. My skin is extremely fair, almost white (you know, white like milk or paper).

I had the PRP done in two ways: 1) injection AND 2) plasma sprayed all over my face after the fraxel treatment. Actually I got the leftover of the plasma with me, so I put it on my face in the evening and the morning after the treatment. So I had a small tube of plasma in my fridge... :ninja:

It is difficult to say about the improvement percentage. I have to big scars / scar areas that were treated. On the other one, I have seen now maybe 50 % improvement, on the other one, not so much, maybe 5-10 %.

One option is of course to combine deepFX (or totalFX) and PRP. That might give good results.

missElegia- did you get a better result from PRP injection or DeepFX? I recently did PRP injection my first time and I do see some results... but other derm recommended me DeepFX... Also, how much percent did it improve you after doing PRP injection? how many times did you do? why 15times? isn't that too much? I am planning to do about 6times and then do stem cell treatment.

I said that I'll do 15 treatments if I need to, not that I'm planning to do so many. 😉 Right now I'm planning to do at least 2 more treatments, and then I'll see what is the result and what my options are. I just meant that I'm so committed to improve my skin that I'll do everything I can.

I think I got a better result from fraxel restore + prp than from deepfx. What I hated about deepfx was that it took ages to heal. I went to work 7 days after the treatment, but it took at least 4 months for the redness to fade away. My skin is extremely fair, almost white (you know, white like milk or paper).

I had the PRP done in two ways: 1) injection AND 2) plasma sprayed all over my face after the fraxel treatment. Actually I got the leftover of the plasma with me, so I put it on my face in the evening and the morning after the treatment. So I had a small tube of plasma in my fridge... :ninja:

It is difficult to say about the improvement percentage. I have to big scars / scar areas that were treated. On the other one, I have seen now maybe 50 % improvement, on the other one, not so much, maybe 5-10 %.

One option is of course to combine deepFX (or totalFX) and PRP. That might give good results.

 

I live in the United States and am having a hard time finding a doctor to do the PRP Therapy on me, can you tell me the name and location of your doctor. Thank you.

I live in the United States and am having a hard time finding a doctor to do the PRP Therapy on me, can you tell me the name and location of your doctor. Thank you.

I live in Europe, in Finland, so I don't know if this really is an option for you? PRP is done in several European countries: Ireland, England, Austria and Finland, propably in many other countries too, but these I've found when I did a google search. I would be amazed if you didn't have this in the U.S.

I live in the United States and am having a hard time finding a doctor to do the PRP Therapy on me, can you tell me the name and location of your doctor. Thank you.

I live in Europe, in Finland, so I don't know if this really is an option for you? PRP is done in several European countries: Ireland, England, Austria and Finland, propably in many other countries too, but these I've found when I did a google search. I would be amazed if you didn't have this in the U.S.

 

Actually, Finland may work for me, my husband travels there from time to time. Could you give me your doctors name and location. The United States is so far behind with the stem cell treatments and PRP Therapy. They are doing the PRP for joint/tendon injuries and is becoming popular for athletes to have these treatments now. I have found a few Doctors in the States that specialize in PRP therapy for injuries doing injections for the face, but I'm not comfortable with this and want someone that specializes in cosmetic surgery or dermatology.

Do you feel there is no benefit to doing PRP alone? or do you feel this procedure should be combined with another procedure such as a laser. I'm not interested in doing any more treatments and was damaged by a laser, just want to add the plasma to help build collagen and hopefully, help repair my skin.

Actually, Finland may work for me, my husband travels there from time to time. Could you give me your doctors name and location. The United States is so far behind with the stem cell treatments and PRP Therapy. They are doing the PRP for joint/tendon injuries and is becoming popular for athletes to have these treatments now. I have found a few Doctors in the States that specialize in PRP therapy for injuries doing injections for the face, but I'm not comfortable with this and want someone that specializes in cosmetic surgery or dermatology.

Do you feel there is no benefit to doing PRP alone? or do you feel this procedure should be combined with another procedure such as a laser. I'm not interested in doing any more treatments and was damaged by a laser, just want to add the plasma to help build collagen and hopefully, help repair my skin.

Ok, I'll send you pm, I think giving links to web sites is not aloud in here.

I actually don't think doing one prp treatment alone is enough. Of course, it is your skin and your money, and I don't think there is basically any risk in this treatment. I mean it is your own blood, how could it harm you.

Which laser damaged you?

In doing prp, you need to get the plasma under your skin somehow, so that the stem cells can help to rebuild collagen. You can have a filler made of plasma, but I think it's a good idea to include also an other method, either needling or some laser that make tiny holes in your skin. That is how the stem cells get into other layers of your skin. I'm not very good in explaining this, but you propably know the theory behind it anyway.

In my first treatment, I had a laser treatment done with very low settings, and I healed in just two days. Yesterday, the levels were little bit higher, but I'm planning to go back to work on Monday, so I'll have only 2-3 days of downtime. I'll use make-up anyway.

I am doing PRP injection with selas 3times and 3times dermastamp. Also, 1time microlaser peeling. Those are my plan with my Doctor and after I am going to do stem cell treatment.... I hope it will give me a dramatic improvement.... It's a lot of money that I am spending.... It's my last hope!!!!

I am doing PRP injection with selas 3times and 3times dermastamp. Also, 1time microlaser peeling. Those are my plan with my Doctor and after I am going to do stem cell treatment.... I hope it will give me a dramatic improvement.... It's a lot of money that I am spending.... It's my last hope!!!!

Did you do the PRP at the same time as the dermastamp? Have you noticed improvement from just the combo of these 2 treatments?

I am doing PRP injection with selas 3times and 3times dermastamp. Also, 1time microlaser peeling. Those are my plan with my Doctor and after I am going to do stem cell treatment.... I hope it will give me a dramatic improvement.... It's a lot of money that I am spending.... It's my last hope!!!!

What is Selas? I can't find this on the internet.

oh it's actually Sellas. I spelled it wrong yah i did PRP injection with dermastamp only once. it's hard to tell a dramatic improvement but i do see some improvement and my skin tone got better. the dermastamp hurts like crazy though...

Hi to all on this thread

I have been following this thread since a while,I know the people here by their posts.

most of people here (80%)here are of moderate scars that are not noteciable at all,(maybe I am one of them) and every person here thinks he has the worst scars on the forum even in the world.I also think that we reached a mental sickness because of our skins.This DOESN'T mean we dont have the right to treat our skins but it is important not to go crazy in that.

It is enough for all here that they have sick minds because of their skins(also I am one of them)so it is absoluty destructive to have clashes between each others .

so to be sincere i read icaretohelp's experience, none here has the right to offend him I think if anyone here on the forum had experienced what he had experienced and payed what he has payed, I am SURE THAT HE WILL NOT BE HERE AGAIN ON THE FORUM TO DISCUSS HIS EXPERIENCE FOR THE BENIFIT OF OTHERS AND FOR FREE, and as I see many are here to take the benifits of the thread in a greedy wway and not taking care of the remaining sufferers as they think themselves as that they have the worst skin problem (from their points pof view).

I also want to add, that i consulted a lot of derms in my country and i did Dermabrasion in one of the most reputable PS's at my country,where most of them were ignorent and arrogant and they never care about me as well as their patients,BUT FRANKLY A CONSULTATION WITH DR KHAN FROM OVERSEAS WAS VERY PROFESSIONAL AND HE SOUNDS REALLY A PERSON WHO CARES ABOUT HIS PATIENTS (WHY HE WOULD CALL ME (IN PERSON )BACK WITHOUT SEEING HIM IN PERSON) TO DISCUSS MY PROBLEM , WHILE ALSO NOT PAYING HIM A PENNY ,WHERE I USED TO SPEND A LOT OF MY MONEY FOR A USELESS CONSULTATIONS WITH IGNORENT DOCTORS FROM HERE AND THERE.(I AM NOT ADVERTISING FOR DR.KHAN BUT THAT WAS THE TRUTH AND WHAT I FELT)

as for BRD I think he is a kind doctor and a nice polite human;why?

because:

1-he is giving the forum a part of his time and sometimes he replies twice for one question and that all for free

2-he inspires people here that there are good treatments that may get their lost souls and made most of us think and search before doing any wrong procedure.

3-most of the people here started at least telling their doctors about this cutting edge treatment which i think is going to spread this method:a-faster

b-at less costs

also it is a reference for anyone wants to spread the info posted here he will be available of lot as info to enrich his derm/PS about the treatment.

I think BRD is following also the thread but not commenting and maybe he also gets some info from the searches and experiences done by the members here.

Hope that we all get an excellent treatment for our scars and also I hope that we stay patients because we are near a very good solution(treatment) for scarring.