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(@seabs135)

Posted : 08/08/2010 7:17 pm

would you say there is hope? Right now i am at rock bottom, been dealing with these scars for 6 years now, feels like i am living in a horrific dream that just wont end. I did an acid peel on my cheeks and that made my skin all white and rough and dry, along with the actual acne scars i have.

 

Decorin at 200nm completely stops scarring by cutting out the fibroblast proliferation. At the same time as it cuts out scarring your normal tissues remain unharmed.

 

 

 

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(@Anonymous)

Posted : 08/08/2010 8:45 pm

Hey guys,

 

maybe you want some new studies. 😉 Here we go!

 

http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100805/ful...s.2010.392.html

 

A brand new nature article, for those who believe in limb regeneration.

 

I wish you all a good sunday.

 

NEO

 

i just came here to post an article i have just read on the exact same thing.

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/...00805142949.htm

 

same article, different website. still, sounds like we are a long long way off.

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(@whadup)

Posted : 08/08/2010 11:45 pm

Lazul...where did you read that Acell creates scar tissue instead of new tissue? I've never heard that from any of hundreds of articles.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 08/09/2010 3:16 am

Lazul...where did you read that Acell creates scar tissue instead of new tissue? I've never heard that from any of hundreds of articles.

 

LOL I love that shortening "Lazul". It sounds funny. heheheee :) But I'm actually digging up the brochure as I'm writing this. I should have it in a few minutes.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 08/09/2010 4:05 am

Lazul...where did you read that Acell creates scar tissue instead of new tissue? I've never heard that from any of hundreds of articles.

 

:doh: I read that brochure when I was tired so I remembered it wrong; it wasn't Matristem but Matriderm which isn't ACell's product.

 

http://www.eurosurgical.co.uk/pdfs/Matride...05%20Finale.pdf

 

The names are so similar hence the confusion. :redface:

 

Btw, I came across this the other day, as well:

 

http://www.scar-club.com

 

It's this meeting where a whole bunch of researchers/doctors etc. come together and talk about scar treatments. Esther Middelkoop is part of it as well. It's interesting. This report from their meeting in 2008 is an interesting read:

 

http://www.scar-club.com/pdf/2nd_SCAR_meet...CAR_MEETING.pdf

 

Here's an excerpt:

 

"The second SCAR Meeting surpassed the success of the first meeting in 2006 and

featured a greater number of scientific sessions with emphasis on non-surgical

prevention and treatment of scars. Exciting advances in the field of scar management

had been made since the first meeting and a flavour of these developments were

presented in Montpellier. The future focus is very much on the prevention of scars.

 

This second SCAR Meeting was described by some delegates as a ‚Å“fascinating melting pot‚ in

which a multidisciplinary audience could exchange ideas and ‚Å“gain consensus on what

is known as well as what is not known.‚ It is clear from the meeting that a collective

definition of evidence in the field is needed to support reimbursement requests. Also, effort

must be made to advance education on wounds and scars at an international level."

 

 

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 08/09/2010 4:11 am

They'll have an international meeting later this year:

 

http://web.me.com/nmsprs/ISMT2010/ISMT2010.html

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 08/09/2010 1:07 pm

Fact: scar free healing has been done. Decorin at 200nm completely controls the fibroblast proliferation that brings the scar.

 

Fact there are drugs being developed that do not bring scar free healing.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 08/10/2010 8:21 am

A surgeon called Jerry E. Cooley who does hair transplantations as well as scar revisions is going to present his year and a half experience with ACell in October 2010 at an annual scientific meeting:

 

http://www.ishrs.org/18thAnnualMeeting.html

 

Someone on another forum who has seen before and after photos in his office of patients who had so-called 'plug removals' said that people's skin looked "90%+ normal with no scar". Could be interesting to see the report from that meeting.

 

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(@worldneedscures)

Posted : 08/10/2010 3:50 pm

A surgeon called Jerry E. Cooley who does hair transplantations as well as scar revisions is going to present his year and a half experience with ACell in October 2010 at an annual scientific meeting:

 

 

 

Someone on another forum who has seen before and after photos in his office of patients who had so-called 'plug removals' said that people's skin looked "90%+ normal with no scar". Could be interesting to see the report from that meeting.

great researching!! seems like your getting some good info.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 08/12/2010 3:19 pm

I just found out that another person is also going to talk about Matristem during the upcoming scientific meeting in October. Someone called Dr. Hitzig. Here's a short interview with him on ACell:

 

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/img/uplo...2879_file24.pdf

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 08/12/2010 3:32 pm

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 08/12/2010 3:54 pm

I just found out that another person is also going to talk about Matristem during the upcoming scientific meeting in October. Someone called Dr. Hitzig. Here's a short interview with him on ACell:

 

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/img/uplo...2879_file24.pdf

 

Read the first line in the link people.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 08/12/2010 4:43 pm

I just found out that another person is also going to talk about Matristem during the upcoming scientific meeting in October. Someone called Dr. Hitzig. Here's a short interview with him on ACell:

 

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/img/uplo...2879_file24.pdf

 

Read the first line in the link people.

 

Again the fantasy that acell served?

 

More than 10 years that is experienced with acell and there is no one photo where proves that serves. (on skin)

 

Only climb the actions of acell when we mentioned their products on all sides.

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(@ai3forever)

Posted : 08/13/2010 11:54 am

I just found out that another person is also going to talk about Matristem during the upcoming scientific meeting in October. Someone called Dr. Hitzig. Here's a short interview with him on ACell:

 

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/img/uplo...2879_file24.pdf

 

Read the first line in the link people.

 

Again the fantasy that acell served?

 

More than 10 years that is experienced with acell and there is no one photo where proves that serves. (on skin)

 

Only climb the actions of acell when we mentioned their products on all sides.

 

 

There were photos of full thickness wounds in animals (not in humans) though that healed w/o scarring. It is arguable that animals healed better? But no less still impressive.

 

I had one article awhile ago that blastema in mammals (or humans?) cant remember were successfully created already. Which would mean scarless healing right? Yet no news.

 

This whole thing is just too fishy.

 

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(@scars4life)

Posted : 08/14/2010 11:53 am

Whoa blastema? for humans? succesful?

where did you read that, something of that magnitude would mean we are nearing limb regeneration, scars is a childs play for blastema. As for Acell, who knows.

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(@Anonymous)

Posted : 08/15/2010 9:13 pm

how do you guys feel about LED therapy? ive read a few articles on it and a few people seem to be mentioning it on this forum.

 

does it hold any substance?

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(@neomike)

Posted : 08/16/2010 5:52 pm

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=3081

 

Here is a thread concerning acell treatment. It seems as if we are not the only people

who believe in its healing capabilities.

 

In the text its mentioned that a doctor has seen acell for scar regeneration and it worked

quite good.

 

NEO

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 08/16/2010 5:55 pm

There's been a bit of an issue regarding a press release regarding ACell on a hair loss site and it caused confusion which they asked Dr. Cooley to clear up. Here's what he said:

 

"ACell is an FDA approved wound healing treatment that we have found useful in hair restoration surgery. It has the potential to cause site specific tissue regeneration meaning, that at the site of wounding normal tissue can be regenerated rather than scar. It appears to stimulate copying or "cloning" of surrounding tissue to fill in a defect. However, this does not always occur. And I am conducting research to determine the best way to use the ACell to maximize succes. I am focussing on repair cases where patients have wide donor scarring and may not be candidates for existing corrective techniques. There are different ways that it can be used and I am comparing these. As well as other important variables. At this time, until more results become available, I am not recommending it for first time patients or those with uncomplicated situations where existing corrective techniques work well. Over the next year, we will be defining the role of this extracellular matrix technology in hair restoration.

 

It's an exciting time."

 

- Jerry E. Cooley MD, January 2010

 

Here you can read a bit more about the issue on the hair loss site and you can also hear an audio file of a concerned doctor who goes on a bit about ACell, saying that its Matristem definately has potential but it's not recommended to the average patient yet and so on:

 

http://www.thebaldtruth.com/articles/matri...ted-commentary/

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 08/16/2010 5:59 pm

If you scroll down a little bit on the page which the link below leads to, you can find an audio file which is an interview with Jerry E. Cooley regarding ACell:

 

http://www.thebaldtruth.com/articles/hair-...n-breakthrough/

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 08/16/2010 6:05 pm

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=3081

 

Here is a thread concerning acell treatment. It seems as if we are not the only people

who believe in its healing capabilities.

 

In the text its mentioned that a doctor has seen acell for scar regeneration and it worked

quite good.

 

NEO

 

Hi Mike. :) Yeah that is the doctor mentioned earlier, called Jerry E. Cooley. He's going to present his findings with ACell at a scientific meeting in October.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 08/16/2010 6:45 pm

If you scroll down a little bit on the page which the link below leads to, you can find an audio file which is an interview with Jerry E. Cooley regarding ACell:

 

http://www.thebaldtruth.com/articles/hair-...n-breakthrough/

 

Here's an excerpt from the interview:

 

So are you saying that using this powder, using this product could possibly make any type of surgery scarless?

 

Well, it has the potential. I prefer at this point to use the word "reduced" scarring...and I can describe in a little bit more detail what my experience has been so far. But I prefer not to raise the expectation that when you use this there will be no scarring. I think it will reliably reduce scarring every time it's used.

 

In your experiments you were using it in donor sites, you were using it in recipient sites and what were you seeing?

 

Well, initially you see more redness and a little bit more swelling. And what's happening is, this process is being stimulated where stem cells are being brought in, new blood vessels are being stimulated... And then ultimately when everything heals, you're seeing either no scarring or less scarring and what appears to be normal tissue.

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(@neomike)

Posted : 08/16/2010 9:11 pm

http://www.genomeweb.com/rnai/sirnaomics-a...ase-i-next-year

 

a new product. never heard of sirnaomics. seems as if more and more products are being produced

in the next years. i hope something juvista or the others will work.

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(@ai3forever)

Posted : 08/17/2010 10:05 am

Whoa blastema? for humans? succesful?

where did you read that, something of that magnitude would mean we are nearing limb regeneration, scars is a childs play for blastema. As for Acell, who knows.

 

I seriously read that somewhere on the net. I showed it to seabs, maybe he had saved the link. Anyway fishy right? Since they said they have already created it yet we still have no news? Unless they were misquoted.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 08/17/2010 11:26 pm

we are stuck, years pass and nothing changes.but there is hope, maybe tomorrow they accidentally discover a cure for this.

 

Nonnegative, if realistic.

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(@whadup)

Posted : 08/18/2010 1:27 am

Sorry for this digression:

I just need to say this. IF we find the cure for our scars(and I hope it's in less than 2 years) I will still return to this thread and I hope you do to. I would love to come back here and remember my struggles, yet remember the group of people who were right there beside me, people who scratched and clawed their way through years of information and failure just so they could be there when 1 success came along. You are all some of the toughest fucking grinders on this earth and I hope you know that. I'd go to war with you people because you, like me, know nothing is impossible. Let's show the world what we're made of during this stretch run. Let's get all the info we can. Let us be bold and experiment ourselves since nobody else will. Let us change our faces but not ourselves. I won't rest until everyone on here is satisfied. Who's with me?

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