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Incredible results. I wonder how the Korean clinic was able to import Acell. Perhaps one of the physicians there had a doc from the US bring it to them.
That is almost perfect restoration.
Incredible results. I wonder how the Korean clinic was able to import Acell. Perhaps one of the physicians there had a doc from the US bring it to them.
That is almost perfect restoration.
But how well would it regenerate follicles on hair bearing skin, like facial hair on a man?
Incredible results. I wonder how the Korean clinic was able to import Acell. Perhaps one of the physicians there had a doc from the US bring it to them.
That is almost perfect restoration.
But how well would it regenerate follicles on hair bearing skin, like facial hair on a man?
it produced site specific tissue...
Incredible results. I wonder how the Korean clinic was able to import Acell. Perhaps one of the physicians there had a doc from the US bring it to them.
That is almost perfect restoration.
But how well would it regenerate follicles on hair bearing skin, like facial hair on a man?
it produced site specific tissue...
Any acne.org members looking to have this treatment done in the US might want to enlighten dermatologists about the successful outcomes from using ACell at this Korean clinic. It wouldn't hurt if the doc could speak Korean since they would be able to communicate with the clinic directly.
Acell...
Incredible results. I wonder how the Korean clinic was able to import Acell. Perhaps one of the physicians there had a doc from the US bring it to them.
That is almost perfect restoration.
But how well would it regenerate follicles on hair bearing skin, like facial hair on a man?
it produced site specific tissue...
Any acne.org members looking to have this treatment done in the US might want to enlighten dermatologists about the successful outcomes from using ACell at this Korean clinic. It wouldn't hurt if the doc could speak Korean since they would be able to communicate with the clinic directly.
Why are you all chirping about the korean guy in the photo...He has pimples and no scars...Accutance could had yeilded the same results.
epcortek, i don't know how spaced apart those pictures were taken, as i haven't read this thread in detail.
but from what i can see.. she's left with no pigmentation problems, as well as no visible scarring.. that makes it pretty amazing seeing as her pimples were cyst like.. and yes, accutane can get you clear, but a lot of people.. and i mean a lot. have to deal with pigmentation and atrophic scarring afterwards.
Acell...
Incredible results. I wonder how the Korean clinic was able to import Acell. Perhaps one of the physicians there had a doc from the US bring it to them.
That is almost perfect restoration.
But how well would it regenerate follicles on hair bearing skin, like facial hair on a man?
it produced site specific tissue...
Any acne.org members looking to have this treatment done in the US might want to enlighten dermatologists about the successful outcomes from using ACell at this Korean clinic. It wouldn't hurt if the doc could speak Korean since they would be able to communicate with the clinic directly.
Why are you all chirping about the korean guy in the photo...He has pimples and no scars...Accutance could had yeilded the same results.
Chirpy, chirpy cheap, cheap.
Why are we chirping on about guy in the photo?
Research,
put things together, see that this photo fits in.
Here is another example of site specific tissue
epcortek....it is because people want to believe a treatment in scarring is not long off.In reality it could be years if ever you can regenerate new tissue to look like before you had acne scars.Nobody has found a cure for aids,cancer,ms and other dieases after years of trying.I have still not seen any real breakthroughs in stem cell research yet.for many acne scars sufferers..hope is eternal just like the human will!
epcortek....it is because people want to believe a treatment in scarring is not long off.In reality it could be years if ever you can regenerate new tissue to look like before you had acne scars.Nobody has found a cure for aids,cancer,ms and other dieases after years of trying.I have still not seen any real breakthroughs in stem cell research yet.for many acne scars sufferers..hope is eternal just like the human will!
I dont know about your eyes but in one of the examples above, there was complete site specific tissue regeneration.
epcortek....it is because people want to believe a treatment in scarring is not long off.In reality it could be years if ever you can regenerate new tissue to look like before you had acne scars.Nobody has found a cure for aids,cancer,ms and other dieases after years of trying.I have still not seen any real breakthroughs in stem cell research yet.for many acne scars sufferers..hope is eternal just like the human will!
I still think heart transplants are still science fiction. If you can trade hearts with someone anything is possible. Don't lose faith.
epcortek....it is because people want to believe a treatment in scarring is not long off.In reality it could be years if ever you can regenerate new tissue to look like before you had acne scars.Nobody has found a cure for aids,cancer,ms and other dieases after years of trying.I have still not seen any real breakthroughs in stem cell research yet.for many acne scars sufferers..hope is eternal just like the human will!I still think heart transplants are still science fiction. If you can trade hearts with someone anything is possible. Don't lose faith.
Hey everyone,
I got acell about a month ago, cost me 500 bucks for a spoon worth of powder 
anyways, ive tried using it after self needling and havent seen good results. I would like your opinion on what procedure i should do to maximize the full potential of Acell. BTW its nearly impossible to get acell from a doctor (PS or derm), went to 8 of them! finally called in a favor from a friend doctor.
Hey everyone,
I got acell about a month ago, cost me 500 bucks for a spoon worth of powder
anyways, ive tried using it after self needling and havent seen good results. I would like your opinion on what procedure i should do to maximize the full potential of Acell. BTW its nearly impossible to get acell from a doctor (PS or derm), went to 8 of them! finally called in a favor from a friend doctor.
You got to excise the whole scar out and apply acell.
http://www.realitysandwich.com/mice_skin
"Skin cells have been reprogramed into cells capable of growing into living, breathing mice. The induced pliripotent stem cells (or IPS cells) used in the study are similar to embryonic stem cells, which have the ability to become any type of tissue in the body, giving scientists and doctors hope of re-growing lost limbs and growing new organs for transplant. Although the early results for IPS cells have been promising, there are still many unanswered questions before tests with humans can begin. Regardless, IPS cells are giving scientists new hope in overcoming some of the more controversial issues of using embryonic stem cells."
if they can make mice out of skin then maybe turning mice into wearable skin isn't too far off lol
http://www.realitysandwich.com/mice_skin
"Skin cells have been reprogramed into cells capable of growing into living, breathing mice. The induced pliripotent stem cells (or IPS cells) used in the study are similar to embryonic stem cells, which have the ability to become any type of tissue in the body, giving scientists and doctors hope of re-growing lost limbs and growing new organs for transplant. Although the early results for IPS cells have been promising, there are still many unanswered questions before tests with humans can begin. Regardless, IPS cells are giving scientists new hope in overcoming some of the more controversial issues of using embryonic stem cells."
if they can make mice out of skin then maybe turning mice into wearable skin isn't too far off lol
they can f-king grow mice from skin. Why cant they even remove scars i wonder?
Today I will be undergoing another test run with a much more invasive procedure involving a very potent local anesthetic. My hope is that we will demolish much more of the scar tissue and apply the acell this way. An open wound is key, so I would appreciate your thoughts and prayers today and throughout the week for a proper time of healing. Stay tuned.
I'm glad you were able to persuade the dr. to use acell with a more invasive technique. Good luck and thanks for keeping us updated!
http://www.realitysandwich.com/mice_skin
"Skin cells have been reprogramed into cells capable of growing into living, breathing mice. The induced pliripotent stem cells (or IPS cells) used in the study are similar to embryonic stem cells, which have the ability to become any type of tissue in the body, giving scientists and doctors hope of re-growing lost limbs and growing new organs for transplant. Although the early results for IPS cells have been promising, there are still many unanswered questions before tests with humans can begin. Regardless, IPS cells are giving scientists new hope in overcoming some of the more controversial issues of using embryonic stem cells."
if they can make mice out of skin then maybe turning mice into wearable skin isn't too far off lol
If you know the alphabet backwards, you know the alphabet.
And here is more proof of scar free healing to go alongside more stuff in this thread and the visual proof. To create an organ you have to stop the fibrils from over expressing collagen inside the collagen, here we have an example of an organism.
IMO anyone who reads that and talks like scar free healing is not here is...
Here you go. I uploaded it for anyone who can't see the link.
Imo , this isnt a good case to show. First off, the acne problem she suffers isn't bad enought to create any atropic scarring. Trust me, the acne I had was at least 20 times worst then that. Then in the first picture, the "scars" she has are merely rough skin and some open pores which aren't too obvious.
In the second picture, it seems like the face is "perfect". However upon close inspection, you can see that her skin is much lighter then the first picture. My analysis is that light was shone on it to create an illusion that the surface of her skin is smooth. Also, if you look very closely, you can still see that the rough skin and pores are still there.
Forgive me but I dont get the hype for this picture.
dude...this is all well and fine....but i want to see real lasting results!i have yet to see a fairly scarred up face turn completely scarless.But i like your optimism!
Optimism?
I regard myself as a skeptic and free thinker, I like to look at evidence.
You have seen site specific tissue. Thus you have seen scar free healing. This is not about optimism, it is about facts. I only deal in facts and logic. I only go by what I have I've seen.
This is off an earlier ECM technology:
As you can see site specific tissue.
Here you go. I uploaded it for anyone who can't see the link.
Imo , this isnt a good case to show. First off, the acne problem she suffers isn't bad enought to create any atropic scarring. Trust me, the acne I had was at least 20 times worst then that. Then in the first picture, the "scars" she has are merely rough skin and some open pores which aren't too obvious.
In the second picture, it seems like the face is "perfect". However upon close inspection, you can see that her skin is much lighter then the first picture. My analysis is that light was shone on it to create an illusion that the surface of her skin is smooth. Also, if you look very closely, you can still see that the rough skin and pores are still there.
Forgive me but I dont get the hype for this picture.
I put up some Acell picture, I never hyped up anything.
Look at post 1677
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Scarless-...tml&st=1660
Where is the hype?
So is a rule of this thread you cant post any information?
I put up the picture, to bring information into play that fits in with what we already know, like the fact that ECM technology has regenerated a sexual organ, skin etc. etc.
where is the hype?
Here you go. I uploaded it for anyone who can't see the link.
Imo , this isnt a good case to show. First off, the acne problem she suffers isn't bad enought to create any atropic scarring. Trust me, the acne I had was at least 20 times worst then that. Then in the first picture, the "scars" she has are merely rough skin and some open pores which aren't too obvious.
In the second picture, it seems like the face is "perfect". However upon close inspection, you can see that her skin is much lighter then the first picture. My analysis is that light was shone on it to create an illusion that the surface of her skin is smooth. Also, if you look very closely, you can still see that the rough skin and pores are still there.
Forgive me but I dont get the hype for this picture.
Regarding what you are saying here.
Lightening, maybe you have a point. Devils advocate: However, I'm no expert on photography it must be hard to get the exact lightening in two photos took in different time periods.
IMO, this is an very good result (all the imperfections are almost gone, 100% in places.). We dont even know what the derm has done, or what role Acell played in it, as it doesn't translate well.
However if the patient was not happy with it. There is always revision. Another dose of what she has just had...
ok i havnt read the whole thread and i dont fully understand how this Acell stuff works. my basic understanding of how to remove scars is to first get the scar tissue completely removed by excision and then apply the Acell powder/sheet over the area directly after the treatment. does this mean that stiches should not be used ?. My aunt is a dermatologist who works with Dr Tony Chu at Hammersmith hospital which many of you from the u.k will know. i dont mind actually testing this acell stuff out and se if it really does prevent scar tissue formation and allow the skin to return back to normal (before the acne scar). if i can get hold of this stuff somehow i will tell my aunt and Dr Chu about it and they can test it out on me. i wont get it done on my face though becuase im stil skeptical. i dont mind getting it done on my back though. only problem is i dont have any scars on my back. excision alone can cause scar tissue right? if stiches are not used. mabey i could just get excision on an area of normal skin and apply Acell and see how it heals. i could also get another area or normal skin excised as if there was a scar, but not apply the Acell powder/sheet. i could then compare and see how the skin heals with and without Acell.
theres alot of talk on these boards about scarless healing, stem cells etc but no-one has actually tested it out yet. mabey i should i try it out lol.
ok i havnt read the whole thread and i dont fully understand how this Acell stuff works. my basic understanding of how to remove scars is to first get the scar tissue completely removed by excision and then apply the Acell powder/sheet over the area directly after the treatment. does this mean that stiches should not be used ?. My aunt is a dermatologist who works with Dr Tony Chu at Hammersmith hospital which many of you from the u.k will know. i dont mind actually testing this acell stuff out and se if it really does prevent scar tissue formation and allow the skin to return back to normal (before the acne scar). if i can get hold of this stuff somehow i will tell my aunt and Dr Chu about it and they can test it out on me. i wont get it done on my face though becuase im stil skeptical. i dont mind getting it done on my back though. only problem is i dont have any scars on my back. excision alone can cause scar tissue right? if stiches are not used. mabey i could just get excision on an area of normal skin and apply Acell and see how it heals. i could also get another area or normal skin excised as if there was a scar, but not apply the Acell powder/sheet. i could then compare and see how the skin heals with and without Acell.
theres alot of talk on these boards about scarless healing, stem cells etc but no-one has actually tested it out yet. mabey i should i try it out lol.
If you look at the landmarks we have had you should be OK if you use non denatured ECM. We have seen regeneration with earlier technology.