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deadliest catch said:Franklins Tower said:sgxyo3man,Will you be having ACell injected into your scars?
If not, what about combining ACell topical powder with injection of PRP + GF-ECMs? Joseph Greco is training other docs accross North America in his PRP + GF-ECM injection for hair growth: [removed]
they say you have to have that precudure on your hair every year, what the heck does that mean? shouldn't it last forever?
They're also using stem cells with the PRP/GF injection. See post #28: http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=833&page=3
Franklins Tower said:deadliest catch said:Franklins Tower said:sgxyo3man,Will you be having ACell injected into your scars?
If not, what about combining ACell topical powder with injection of PRP + GF-ECMs? Joseph Greco is training other docs accross North America in his PRP + GF-ECM injection for hair growth: [removed]
they say you have to have that precudure on your hair every year, what the heck does that mean? shouldn't it last forever?
They're also using stem cells with the PRP/GF injection. See post #28: http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=833&page=3
is this a effective balding treatment? this seems like big money in the bald world if its a cure.
New ACell photo added on Dr. Jones' site: http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html
New ACell photo added on Dr. Jones' site: http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html
that's disappointing. there now proof that acell doesn't work. this is not good for us scar sufferers
New ACell photo added on Dr. Jones' site: http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.htmlthat's disappointing. there now proof that acell doesn't work. this is not good for us scar sufferers
Yes, there is proof that Acell doesn't work if not used properly. However, if the wound is kept moist with sterile saline, bandaged, and covered with acell material on a regualr basis until the wound is healed then it does seem to work.
New ACell photo added on Dr. Jones' site: http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.htmlthat's disappointing. there now proof that acell doesn't work. this is not good for us scar sufferers
To me the photo looks like it is on to being scar free, but we havent examined the texture, one thing I can say in that light it looks flat there are no lumps, in scarring you usually get lumpy texture.
But I'm not fooling myself.
Realistically because of the fibrin scab spoiling the system I predict it will not grow hair and I reckon if someone examined it close up you would see a tiny bit fibrous tissue texture, but fibrous tissue that was better than before.
All this is because of the fibrin which plays a part in scarring.
well hopefully things will work out with scar free healing and us suffers won't have to suffer any more.
Like how? This acell was our hope but it scarred..seriously, everything has not gone our way..Hoping doesn't get us anywhere.
Again Kirk, the scarless healing you mentioned is it based on visual or theoratical evidence? If it is visual. Is there anyway to contact the surgeon who brought about the scarless healing? If is based on your theory, is there anywhere to show the theory to some someone credible who can help you?
well hopefully things will work out with scar free healing and us suffers won't have to suffer any more.
Like how? This acell was our hope but it scarred..seriously, everything has not gone our way..Hoping doesn't get us anywhere.
Again Kirk, the scarless healing you mentioned is it based on visual or theoratical evidence? If it is visual. Is there anyway to contact the surgeon who brought about the scarless healing? If is based on your theory, is there anywhere to show the theory to some someone credible who can help you?
Like how? This acell was our hope but it scarred..seriously, everything has not gone our way..Hoping doesn't get us anywhere.
By the way hoping does not get you any where, you are right.
Regarding the picture, IMO the picture does not show it scarred, it does not show site specific tissue it is still red. So we can not say if it has scarred or not.
However we can strongly assume it scarred because of the fibrin, which contaminated the ECM. Fibrin which is a factor in scabs and scars and which stops the intercellular cells from travelling through the ECM. And the fact that earlier on Jones called it a scar.
Anyway what ever iit is, scar or no scar, this demonstration is invalid IMO, through the fibrin which would denature (crosslink) the fibrils.
Again Kirk, the scarless healing you mentioned is it based on visual or theoratical evidence? If it is visual. Is there anyway to contact the surgeon who brought about the scarless healing? If is based on your theory, is there anywhere to show the theory to some someone credible who can help you?
Credible??? (Probably misinterpreted semantics and you meant qualified or informed?)
If you meant credible, as in you are appealing to some authority. Then note, this is not hearsay, this is not merely an opinion based on wishful thinking of someone who is not an expert>>>> BTW It is a fallacy to assume an expert in authority has to have the only say on something for something to be credible. That is an appeal to authority there.
Anyway regarding the PDF it is as credible as it can be. This is not my hearsay-theory. I'm merely a messenger. And whether it is wrote by an expert, noviice or journalist. I have 'cited,' this means it has not come from my hearsay, as it is cited, it is validated and it logically connects. And as far as I can see there are no glaring errors. If you want to research there are links via the cites in the PDF.
Again my PDF proves and validates scar free healing has been done.
No offense, but if you want to appeal to an authority you label credible then do so.
If you meant informed, or qualified, regarding finding if someone can help me, No. Also those cited are not in my region.
seabs135 your PDF is hard to look though, i've notice that there is alot of empty space and you have to skero down alot. is there anyway to fix that?
You can fix it if you want. There is a space for you to put a summary. It is also under a GNU Free Documentation License, that means you can even edit it to the way you want and completely revamp it to the way you see it. Regard it like a wiki, which IMO this site should have.
BTW guys I appreciate that we all have our views with the evidence we have seen etc. And I hope I didn't sound dogmatic in my past post or two.
Also I appreciate that though after my analysis of the fact file I believe scar free healin is here, someone else might not and I have absolutely no problem at all with this. Like everyone else, we all make up our own minds with information and we all have views.
Things that scare me are that acell will only work on fresh wounds rather then old scars. also I'm worried about what kind of scars it'll treat. I hope it'll work for depressed scars and raised scars also scars that came from excisions like hair transplants. there's so much unknown about what the limitations are for this product called Acell. another scary thing is it won't work at all.
first we will have to see results from tests that apply what your saying, keeping the wound moist and applying Acell everyday.
When is there going to be another study? Thats what we are all waiting for.
btw thank you sgxyo3man for trying this on your stretch marks. I can't thank you enough for trying something that we don't know if it will work.
Things that scare me are that acell will only work on fresh wounds rather then old scars. also I'm worried about what kind of scars it'll treat. I hope it'll work for depressed scars and raised scars also scars that came from excisions like hair transplants. there's so much unknown about what the limitations are for this product called Acell. another scary thing is it won't work at all.
first we will have to see results from tests that apply what your saying, keeping the wound moist and applying Acell everyday.
When is there going to be another study? Thats what we are all waiting for.
btw thank you sgxyo3man for trying this on your stretch marks. I can't thank you enough for trying something that we don't know if it will work.
After e-mailing the creators of Acell, I got the answer that it wouldn't really matter whether or not the scar was old or if this was working to treat fresh wounds. This is due to the fact when treating any type of scar with this procedure, you will normally be removing the scar tissue, thus creating a new wound.
Things that scare me are that acell will only work on fresh wounds rather then old scars. also I'm worried about what kind of scars it'll treat. I hope it'll work for depressed scars and raised scars also scars that came from excisions like hair transplants. there's so much unknown about what the limitations are for this product called Acell. another scary thing is it won't work at all.
first we will have to see results from tests that apply what your saying, keeping the wound moist and applying Acell everyday.
When is there going to be another study? Thats what we are all waiting for.
btw thank you sgxyo3man for trying this on your stretch marks. I can't thank you enough for trying something that we don't know if it will work.
After e-mailing the creators of Acell, I got the answer that it wouldn't really matter whether or not the scar was old or if this was working to treat fresh wounds. This is due to the fact when treating any type of scar with this procedure, you will normally be removing the scar tissue, thus creating a new wound.
Did they say of any successful case of removing the scar tissue?
Did they say of any successful case of removing the scar tissue?
ACell consists of scientists, not active medical practitioners. It's on us to get evidence as to it's efficacy. Number one bit of advice is to get off your ass and get talking to doctors in your area. Everyone needs to be pulling their weight and not just coming to these boards and complaining that a certain medicinal may or may not be the answer. Given the circumstances, we all just need to roll with it and get out there and try new things. The more people we have serving up everything with the kitchen sink, the faster we will see something remotely feasible as a "cure". Make sure to stave off the negativity while confirmation of this specific treatment is being determined.
Or continue being idiots. I really don't care for your sakes, but the broadening community will want hope, not unwarranted pessimism. I'm there with the lot of you who have been skeptical in the face of trying everything else fo scarring. The fact that someone like me is even remotely excited about something "new" is a testament to the enormity of this discovery.
Did they say of any successful case of removing the scar tissue?ACell consists of scientists, not active medical practitioners. It's on us to get evidence as to it's efficacy. Number one bit of advice is to get off your ass and get talking to doctors in your area. Everyone needs to be pulling their weight and not just coming to these boards and complaining that a certain medicinal may or may not be the answer. Given the circumstances, we all just need to roll with it and get out there and try new things. The more people we have serving up everything with the kitchen sink, the faster we will see something remotely feasible as a "cure". Make sure to stave off the negativity while confirmation of this specific treatment is being determined.
Or continue being idiots. I really don't care for your sakes, but the broadening community will want hope, not unwarranted pessimism. I'm there with the lot of you who have been skeptical in the face of trying everything else fo scarring. The fact that someone like me is even remotely excited about something "new" is a testament to the enormity of this discovery.
Though what really puzzles me is that acell has been out for almost a year already. If there were some discovery about its effectiveness, it should be out by now I know im not giving up hope though, like you said pessimism doesn't get us anywhere.
Though what really puzzles me is that acell has been out for almost a year already. If there were some discovery about its effectiveness, it should be out by now I know im not giving up hope though, like you said pessimism doesn't get us anywhere.
Skepticism is at the forefront of doctor's minds these days when it comes to regenerative medicine. As far as full thickness wounds are concerned, this product has shown great improvement in the scarring response, but not enough to warrant any excitement in mainstream medicine. I believer that this product still has some aging before it has been tested to it's fullest. In my opinion, this product will work best on mild defects like typical rolling acne scarring and stretch marks. It is not out of the question that worse will be maximally treated however. Like I mentioned, once the skeptical doctor lays down his preconceived notions about regenerative healing, things will get moving.
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Another Acell success story - I don't know if you guys saw this one already. But here's some hope!
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Another Acell success story - I don't know if you guys saw this one already. But here's some hope!
i cant see it.
i have not read this whole thread beucase it is soo long lol but im reading through the document posted on the first page. its quite condusing to me at the moment.
anyway my question is ... will this work for large / scared pores ??
the pores is my main problem and for me it looks worse then the acne scars i have
thanks
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Another Acell success story - I don't know if you guys saw this one already. But here's some hope!
i cant see it.
http://wn.wsvn.com/global/video/popup/pop_...=v&at1=News - Special Coverage&d1=167233&LaunchPageAdTag=News - Special Coverage&fvCatNo=&backgroundImageURL=&activePane=info&playerVersion=1&hostPageUrl=http%3A//www.wsvn.com/features/articles/medicalreports/MI118922&rnd=38988066
If that doesn't work, go to http://www.acell.com/ and look at the updated link as of april 23, 2009.
I'm a bit confused with this ACell product. So far, I have read about 2 amazing success stories using the ACell Product. 1) The old guy who regrew his finger after cutting it off with a toy plane (the 'original guinea pig' lol) and 2) the little boy who regrew his finger after getting it cut off by a door. It seems that this product is GROUNDBREAKING and AMAZING. People are actually regrowing missing appendages!! With all these amazing results, why is this product still largely 'unknown'? Yes, it has been featured on Oprah and on several news shows, but I think the the general public does not know about this product and the possibility of regrowing missing body parts. (I asked a bunch of people and no one has a clue!!!) WHy? My guess is because doctors are not using this kind of therapy to treat certain injuries - right?
ACell and the technology behind it can very well change science and medicine as we know it - yet the public knows nothing about it. I'm sure there are many people who NEED a product like this, with missing fingers and such, and probably even more people who WANT a product like this - with damaged skin and what not. However, there are no studies, no publications, no journals that are available for the general public to assess its effectiveness, success rate, and side effects. (at least to my knowledge!) Imagine - people who undergo surgery can maybe put Acell on the wounds to prevent scarring. Burn victims can receive treatment with minimal scarring. Acne sufferers can treat their scars! Why are we not using this product throughout the US? I always hear that the military PLANS on using it, but I still haven't heard any stories regarding the progress - successful or not. Today, we have procedures like BoTox, breast implants, rhinoplasties - these seem to be hugely popular and well known throughout society. Even stomach stapling, tummy tucks and liposuctions are very popular and well known! Everyone knows about these procedures - but no one knows about ACell.
I'm just ranting - but I'm sure other people have similar inquiries. I guess I'm just frustrated. We have our own little imperfections we want to fix sooner than later!
