1 hour ago, Scarredfacee said:

Both can remove skin but microcoring does it without the heat-related side effects making it safer in darker skin and in general. I do not expect a night and day difference though. Maybe with many sessions.

If they approve microcoring for scars I would very much like to try it instead of laser first.

So its not better it should be safer , btw removing 8% of the scarred skin ? I dont know if this will do something for acne scar

8 hours ago, Binga said:

CO2 laser works by damaging the scar tissue underneath the scar hoping that it will heal to improve scar appearance. Microcoring works by getting ridof the scar tissue itself. It's similar to excision which is done by surgeons currently but at a micro level. If there is no scar tissue there won't be any scar.

It removes only 8 % of scar tissue , so i dontagree with you , but Lets wait and see i hope im wrong and u re right

We'll see. It removes 8% of the scarred skin at a time.

1 hour ago, Scarredfacee said:

We'll see. It removes 8% of the scarred skin at a time.

Ok so 12 times , 96 % of skin removed regrown and u have new face , medicine is absolete

12 times if you hit the right spots every time. Which is unlikely.

1 hour ago, Miro said:

Ok so 12 times , 96 % of skin removed regrown and u have new face , medicine is absolete

All I'm saying is that IFthey find that it works for scars too I will be happierto get the microcoring devicerather than a co2 laser. But there are many ifs for now. I find it encouraging though that Dr Avram who tests the device is optimistic.

13 minutes ago, Scarredfacee said:

All I'm saying is that IFthey find that it works for scars too I will be happierto get the microcoring devicerather than a co2 laser. But there are many ifs for now. I find it encouraging though that Dr Avram who tests the device is optimistic.

Optimistic for rejuvenization of skin , this will not make significantimprovof scars , i checked dr s instagram and he says we need further studies if it will be better then lasers or RMF

He is optimistic about acne scars too. There was a question under one of his posts 3 weeks ago. People asked him if the new device can address acne scars like ice-picks and his answer was that we don't know yet, maybe there are no studies yet but he thinks it will.

Im kinda baffled they haven't microcored a single scar with this just out of curiosity. Even just very small scars. Goes toshow that scars take a back seat and wrinkles are still the major draw card. Sad but true. More money in wrinkles clearly.

3 prong needle gauge by the looks moving from right toleft inside a small box shaped perimeter. Also seems to hit the entire area of that square. This is where it would become tricky for the operator to navigate and accurately target scars that form all different shapes.

Can it just punch in and out once on the first motion sparing surrounding good skin? And is there a guide so they can clearly see what skin will be hit?

It's the bigger market - wrinkles, sagging skin, rejuvenation. Everybody gets old and manyspend a fortunetrying to reverse the signs. Also, the return of investment is bigger with rejuvenation than with scar correction. Sad but true.

I saw on dr Avram's Instagram that he took part in some conference about laser, microcoring and other technologies last month. It is a pity they didn't post any videos from it.

1 hour ago, Scarredfacee said:

It's the bigger market - wrinkles, sagging skin, rejuvenation. Everybody gets old and manyspend a fortunetrying to reverse the signs. Also, the return of investment is bigger with rejuvenation than with scar correction. Sad but true.

I saw on dr Avram's Instagram that he took part in some conference about laser, microcoring and other technologies last month. It is a pity they didn't post any videos from it.

No its not bout that , the problem is that you cant remove scar except when u perform excisionand then u create another scar , untill medicine finds out the way how to remove scar tissue and replace it with healthy tissue without creating another scar we re helpless , scar can look better but thatsit , its not that they dont want to do it , they are not able to , its same like other medical conditions , medicine is not there yet

2 hours ago, Miro said:

No its not bout that , the problem is that you cant remove scar except when u perform excisionand then u create another scar , untill medicine finds out the way how to remove scar tissue and replace it with healthy tissue without creating another scar we re helpless , scar can look better but thatsit , its not that they dont want to do it , they are not able to , its same like other medical conditions , medicine is not there yet

I am far from the thought that microcoring will give flawless pre-acne skin but if it can improve the appearance of the scarred skin without the serious issues with co2 with a week downtime, it will be a huge thing. All energy-based devices at the moment -lasers, rfm microneedling - are heat generating which poses a risk.

1 hour ago, Scarredfacee said:

I am far from the thought that microcoring will give flawless pre-acne skin but if it can improve the appearance of the scarred skin without the serious issues with co2 with a week downtime, it will be a huge thing. All energy-based devices at the moment -lasers, rfm microneedling - are heat generating which poses a risk.

Well Lets wait and see

On 10/23/2021 at 5:35 AM, dermaldamage said:

Apparently they are/werefinishing up the trials on pigs, who knows how long until they release the results though.

Take a look: (scroll down to where it says verteporfin wound healing update 8/29/21) https://www.folliclethought.com/updates/

 

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-10-magneteskin-reconstructing-skin-magnetically-microtissue.html

On 11/1/2021 at 8:27 AM, Sniffy said:

Im kinda baffled they haven't microcored a single scar with this just out of curiosity. Even just very small scars. Goes toshow that scars take a back seat and wrinkles are still the major draw card. Sad but true. More money in wrinkles clearly.

 

3 prong needle gauge by the looks moving from right toleft inside a small box shaped perimeter. Also seems to hit the entire area of that square. This is where it would become tricky for the operator to navigate and accurately target scars that form all different shapes.

 

Can it just punch in and out once on the first motion sparing surrounding good skin? And is there a guide so they can clearly see what skin will be hit?

 

 

It just came to the market...so have some patience. I will be doing it myself soon. Some doctors already do excision to treat scars. You can can check the history from this site to get an idea.

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This potential drug that could regenerate hair , would that apply to regenerating eyelashes ?

Does anyone know when we can expect the elastagen papers regarding stretch marks and acne scars to be released ?

On 11/1/2021 at 8:27 AM, Sniffy said:

Im kinda baffled they haven't microcored a single scar with this just out of curiosity. Even just very small scars. Goes toshow that scars take a back seat and wrinkles are still the major draw card. Sad but true. More money in wrinkles clearly.

 

3 prong needle gauge by the looks moving from right toleft inside a small box shaped perimeter. Also seems to hit the entire area of that square. This is where it would become tricky for the operator to navigate and accurately target scars that form all different shapes.

 

Can it just punch in and out once on the first motion sparing surrounding good skin? And is there a guide so they can clearly see what skin will be hit?

 

 

The Dr in this video said she microcored a scar on a patients leg: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVx0c7QJUSE/?utm_medium=copy_link

5 hours ago, Ac0314 said:

The Dr in this video said she microcored a scar on a patients leg: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVx0c7QJUSE/?utm_medium=copy_link

Well there we have it. Already getting used for scars. More treatments and results will come in 2022 when it goes mainstream.

7 hours ago, Ac0314 said:

The Dr in this video said she microcored a scar on a patients leg: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVx0c7QJUSE/?utm_medium=copy_link

With what results ? I used chicken liver on my scars , didnt work

12 hours ago, Ac0314 said:

The Dr in this video said she microcored a scar on a patients leg: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVx0c7QJUSE/?utm_medium=copy_link

I really don't like the look of this , looks like another gimmick to me than any medical technological advances in regenerating damaged skin.

what does this mean?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/replicel-clinical-advisory-team-delivers-110000538.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGTTGzJz5tkYa3qw8z0d3tXNFOE4qHkO1sakLaBIq7rNjA4f4HVLdIiFazePtGXdSEnIbDd1P0RXnFkTfBg9ml4Xyh0aEC4kvbJTe22t3Uowduzn_fS5pGOeSb0IJSk-oSuTWVwtEsniNKU7kQhxS4wFqOgXk64F2AQnYQX1JLe4

https://www.dvm360.com/view/using-light-therapy-to-accelerate-wound-healing Maybe in decades stem cell therapy will get the the point of getting rid of scarring though a light therapy technology , not to mention artificial intelligence is getting to the point of such advancement that skin regeneration will be 100 percent perfect.

Stem cell held a lot of promise some time ago. It may realize a bigger potential some day.

One of the issues for me with scarless healing is discounting it as an engineering problem, and instead having thisstrong reliance on the hypothesis that flipping gene switcheswill achieve the perfect skin. Maybe like any fabric we encounter, once skin is out of the factory all we can do ispatch work, maybe its too big of a problem to solve by trying to play god and findingthe right gene switching sequence.
Now,verteporfin somehow did achieve it with mice, so the hypothesis definitely seems pretty plausiblethat it could work with humans, but it will probablyinvolve more coordination than just verteporfin after seeing the pig results with FAKI.

Ill also mention this guy cause I dont think people know him, Michael Levin. I think hes really really ahead of his time and his labmay be able to solve even bigger problems than scarless healing underhis framework.