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(@miro)

Posted : 10/31/2021 11:06 am

14 minutes ago, Binga said:

If this doesn't get rids of scar tissue I don't know what will....looks pretty intense

Lets wait and see , someone needs to get treatment for his acne scars with this device , also it probably must be more sessions 3-5 , and then we can tell

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Posted : 10/31/2021 3:47 pm

4 hours ago, Binga said:

If this doesn't get rids of scar tissue I don't know what will....looks pretty intense

It does look so aggressive. It probably won't do miracles but it is better than CO2 laser. Does anybody know what the doctorssaid about microcoring at their eventearlier this fall?

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Posted : 10/31/2021 4:23 pm

35 minutes ago, Scarredfacee said:

It does look so aggressive. It probably won't do miracles but it is better than CO2 laser. Does anybody know what the doctorssaid about microcoring at their eventearlier this fall?

How do u know its better then CO2 laser ? And better for what ?

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Posted : 10/31/2021 6:03 pm

1 hour ago, Miro said:

How do u know its better then CO2 laser ? And better for what ?

CO2 laser works by damaging the scar tissue underneath the scar hoping that it will heal to improve scar appearance. Microcoring works by getting ridof the scar tissue itself. It's similar to excision which is done by surgeons currently but at a micro level. If there is no scar tissue there won't be any scar.

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Posted : 10/31/2021 7:10 pm

Can verteprofin be used for stretch marks?

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Posted : 11/01/2021 12:35 am

8 hours ago, Miro said:

How do u know its better then CO2 laser ? And better for what ?

Both can remove skin but microcoring does it without the heat-related side effects making it safer in darker skin and in general. I do not expect a night and day difference though. Maybe with many sessions.

If they approve microcoring for scars I would very much like to try it instead of laser first.

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Posted : 11/01/2021 2:22 am

1 hour ago, Scarredfacee said:

Both can remove skin but microcoring does it without the heat-related side effects making it safer in darker skin and in general. I do not expect a night and day difference though. Maybe with many sessions.

If they approve microcoring for scars I would very much like to try it instead of laser first.

So its not better it should be safer , btw removing 8% of the scarred skin ? I dont know if this will do something for acne scar

8 hours ago, Binga said:

CO2 laser works by damaging the scar tissue underneath the scar hoping that it will heal to improve scar appearance. Microcoring works by getting ridof the scar tissue itself. It's similar to excision which is done by surgeons currently but at a micro level. If there is no scar tissue there won't be any scar.

It removes only 8 % of scar tissue , so i dontagree with you , but Lets wait and see i hope im wrong and u re right

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Posted : 11/01/2021 3:16 am

We'll see. It removes 8% of the scarred skin at a time.

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Posted : 11/01/2021 4:56 am

1 hour ago, Scarredfacee said:

We'll see. It removes 8% of the scarred skin at a time.

Ok so 12 times , 96 % of skin removed regrown and u have new face , medicine is absolete

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Posted : 11/01/2021 5:36 am

12 times if you hit the right spots every time. Which is unlikely.

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Posted : 11/01/2021 6:06 am

1 hour ago, Miro said:

Ok so 12 times , 96 % of skin removed regrown and u have new face , medicine is absolete

All I'm saying is that IFthey find that it works for scars too I will be happierto get the microcoring devicerather than a co2 laser. But there are many ifs for now. I find it encouraging though that Dr Avram who tests the device is optimistic.

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Posted : 11/01/2021 6:21 am

13 minutes ago, Scarredfacee said:

All I'm saying is that IFthey find that it works for scars too I will be happierto get the microcoring devicerather than a co2 laser. But there are many ifs for now. I find it encouraging though that Dr Avram who tests the device is optimistic.

Optimistic for rejuvenization of skin , this will not make significantimprovof scars , i checked dr s instagram and he says we need further studies if it will be better then lasers or RMF

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Posted : 11/01/2021 6:31 am

He is optimistic about acne scars too. There was a question under one of his posts 3 weeks ago. People asked him if the new device can address acne scars like ice-picks and his answer was that we don't know yet, maybe there are no studies yet but he thinks it will.

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Posted : 11/01/2021 7:27 am

Im kinda baffled they haven't microcored a single scar with this just out of curiosity. Even just very small scars. Goes toshow that scars take a back seat and wrinkles are still the major draw card. Sad but true. More money in wrinkles clearly.

 

3 prong needle gauge by the looks moving from right toleft inside a small box shaped perimeter. Also seems to hit the entire area of that square. This is where it would become tricky for the operator to navigate and accurately target scars that form all different shapes.

 

Can it just punch in and out once on the first motion sparing surrounding good skin? And is there a guide so they can clearly see what skin will be hit?

 

 

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Posted : 11/01/2021 8:15 am

It's the bigger market - wrinkles, sagging skin, rejuvenation. Everybody gets old and manyspend a fortunetrying to reverse the signs. Also, the return of investment is bigger with rejuvenation than with scar correction. Sad but true.

I saw on dr Avram's Instagram that he took part in some conference about laser, microcoring and other technologies last month. It is a pity they didn't post any videos from it.

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Posted : 11/01/2021 9:32 am

1 hour ago, Scarredfacee said:

It's the bigger market - wrinkles, sagging skin, rejuvenation. Everybody gets old and manyspend a fortunetrying to reverse the signs. Also, the return of investment is bigger with rejuvenation than with scar correction. Sad but true.

I saw on dr Avram's Instagram that he took part in some conference about laser, microcoring and other technologies last month. It is a pity they didn't post any videos from it.

No its not bout that , the problem is that you cant remove scar except when u perform excisionand then u create another scar , untill medicine finds out the way how to remove scar tissue and replace it with healthy tissue without creating another scar we re helpless , scar can look better but thatsit , its not that they dont want to do it , they are not able to , its same like other medical conditions , medicine is not there yet

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Posted : 11/01/2021 11:46 am

2 hours ago, Miro said:

No its not bout that , the problem is that you cant remove scar except when u perform excisionand then u create another scar , untill medicine finds out the way how to remove scar tissue and replace it with healthy tissue without creating another scar we re helpless , scar can look better but thatsit , its not that they dont want to do it , they are not able to , its same like other medical conditions , medicine is not there yet

I am far from the thought that microcoring will give flawless pre-acne skin but if it can improve the appearance of the scarred skin without the serious issues with co2 with a week downtime, it will be a huge thing. All energy-based devices at the moment -lasers, rfm microneedling - are heat generating which poses a risk.

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Posted : 11/01/2021 12:56 pm

1 hour ago, Scarredfacee said:

I am far from the thought that microcoring will give flawless pre-acne skin but if it can improve the appearance of the scarred skin without the serious issues with co2 with a week downtime, it will be a huge thing. All energy-based devices at the moment -lasers, rfm microneedling - are heat generating which poses a risk.

Well Lets wait and see

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Posted : 11/01/2021 9:12 pm

On 10/23/2021 at 5:35 AM, dermaldamage said:

Apparently they are/werefinishing up the trials on pigs, who knows how long until they release the results though.

Take a look: (scroll down to where it says verteporfin wound healing update 8/29/21) https://www.folliclethought.com/updates/

 

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-10-magneteskin-reconstructing-skin-magnetically-microtissue.html

 

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Posted : 11/03/2021 5:08 am

On 11/1/2021 at 8:27 AM, Sniffy said:

Im kinda baffled they haven't microcored a single scar with this just out of curiosity. Even just very small scars. Goes toshow that scars take a back seat and wrinkles are still the major draw card. Sad but true. More money in wrinkles clearly.

 

3 prong needle gauge by the looks moving from right toleft inside a small box shaped perimeter. Also seems to hit the entire area of that square. This is where it would become tricky for the operator to navigate and accurately target scars that form all different shapes.

 

Can it just punch in and out once on the first motion sparing surrounding good skin? And is there a guide so they can clearly see what skin will be hit?

 

 

It just came to the market...so have some patience. I will be doing it myself soon. Some doctors already do excision to treat scars. You can can check the history from this site to get an idea.

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Posted : 11/03/2021 4:40 pm

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Posted : 11/05/2021 1:20 am

This potential drug that could regenerate hair , would that apply to regenerating eyelashes ?

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Posted : 11/07/2021 8:31 pm

Does anyone know when we can expect the elastagen papers regarding stretch marks and acne scars to be released ?

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Posted : 11/07/2021 10:28 pm

On 11/1/2021 at 8:27 AM, Sniffy said:

Im kinda baffled they haven't microcored a single scar with this just out of curiosity. Even just very small scars. Goes toshow that scars take a back seat and wrinkles are still the major draw card. Sad but true. More money in wrinkles clearly.

 

3 prong needle gauge by the looks moving from right toleft inside a small box shaped perimeter. Also seems to hit the entire area of that square. This is where it would become tricky for the operator to navigate and accurately target scars that form all different shapes.

 

Can it just punch in and out once on the first motion sparing surrounding good skin? And is there a guide so they can clearly see what skin will be hit?

 

 

The Dr in this video said she microcored a scar on a patients leg: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVx0c7QJUSE/?utm_medium=copy_link

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Posted : 11/08/2021 3:41 am

5 hours ago, Ac0314 said:

The Dr in this video said she microcored a scar on a patients leg: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVx0c7QJUSE/?utm_medium=copy_link

Well there we have it. Already getting used for scars. More treatments and results will come in 2022 when it goes mainstream.

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