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On 2/19/2021 at 12:28 AM, Gurney Shellon said:
On 2/23/2021 at 4:43 PM, David4bay said:There will be a conference around April on the effectiveness of microcoring as a rejuvenation device. Also, though not cytrellis but fig 131 on recrossmedia device is about using microcoring to remove scars, they have over 7 examples on both using microcoring for w plasty, z plasty and using it only to remove a hypotrophic scar and raise the scar edge to the level of normal skin with continuing treatments to remove the scar. Cytrellis patent mentions it being used to remove scars from acne, accident, etc so the two aren't far off, it's even in the patent that being such an outpatient procedure it could be done in a spa, so if it's released and becomes mainstream it doesn't stop you from going to get it done on your scar even if it's mostly used for skin tightening elsewhere. Best of luck to everyone, hope it all works out well, won't be devastated if it doesn't.
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Lol......start from the beginning of this thread and keep reading.....treatment after treatment failed.....but people will gladly take your money.....it wasn't too long ago this thread was posting how great Polarity was.
I think given the various studies and discoveries made,Im pretty optimistic that skin regeneration is something thatll come one day.
But it could take a while, most parties working on it are only concerned with specific cases, and are not tackling the issue holistically. The ones that are really looking into itseem to be doing it only for academic reasons, publishing the hundredth research paper as to how salamanders hold the key! They dont have the pressures of timely deliverables to really be going all in on it and have nothing invested on the matter. Takeelastagen as an example for that, look up how far back that project has been going on.
Unless someone like Elon Musk decides thattacklingskin regeneration would disrupt the whole market, the progress will continue to be at aturtles pace and will probably only be solved as a result of an accident like most major discoveries do.
For every one else here, stay updated on all the progress being made, I do and its fascinating stuff. But understand that unless youre someone whos in the field,doing a deep dive research into thesetopics will not speed up the process of delivering scar free healing. Itll come the day it comes regardless of what we do here,and the experts on the matter will be aware of it and deliver the news to us,someone like Dr.Davin Lim maybe,definitely not your local dermatologist.
On 2/22/2021 at 1:56 AM, Skin Pessimist said:I'm a bit higher on the concept of elastagen than others here, especially for rolling scars. However, I'm skeptical that Allergan will focus on acne scars applications. Probably just wrinkles & stretch marks.
There's (probably) still years before it hits the market too
I was originally extremely pessimistic, but I'm coming around to it a little bit. If Imake a bubble with my cheeks, almost all the scarring disappears. It would stand to reason that a tropoelastin injection would accomplish a similar thing but permanently. That has mesomewhat optimistic.
Made an account just to post this. Please try take it constructively.
I have beenreading this thread for a while and it seems that most people here are creating false hope with these new 'scarregeneration' techniques on the market. Almost all of the new procedures that were mentioned here do not even mention the treatment of pre-existing scars, butrather, a method for achieving a means toreduce scarring orregenerate tissue at the time of wound healing or a entirely different cosmetic issue. Looking through all the newly proposed treatments mentioned here since 2007 don't even mention its use on the type of scars we are trying to treat.
I am not saying that it is not possible - I'm actually a firm believer that one day any scar (new and old) can be eradicated in the future. However, what many of you here seem to be doing is trying to grasp on to unrealistic expectations fuelled by an inability to accept thatright now, although a lot of advancements have been achieved, we may still have a long way to go. New wounds have only just been thoroughlyresearched to regenerateon animals - not humans. Please just stop creating unjustified conclusions that whatever treatment that is coming up is going to work on whatever you are going to treat. 95% of the treatments brought up here never mentioned acne scars or pre-existing scars.
I may be wrong and if I am - I apologise. But this is just what I have gathered from reading here
4 hours ago, pixpixkid said:Made an account just to post this. Please try take it constructively.
I have beenreading this thread for a while and it seems that most people here are creating false hope with these new 'scarregeneration' techniques on the market. Almost all of the new procedures that were mentioned here do not even mention the treatment of pre-existing scars, butrather, a method for achieving a means toreduce scarring orregenerate tissue at the time of wound healing or a entirely different cosmetic issue. Looking through all the newly proposed treatments mentioned here since 2007 don't even mention its use on the type of scars we are trying to treat.
I am not saying that it is not possible - I'm actually a firm believer that one day any scar (new and old) can be eradicated in the future. However, what many of you here seem to be doing is trying to grasp on to unrealistic expectations fuelled by an inability to accept thatright now, although a lot of advancements have been achieved, we may still have a long way to go. New wounds have only just been thoroughlyresearched to regenerateon animals - not humans. Please just stop creating unjustified conclusions that whatever treatment that is coming up is going to work on whatever you are going to treat. 95% of the treatments brought up here never mentioned acne scars or pre-existing scars.
I may be wrong and if I am - I apologise. But this is just what I have gathered from reading here
Exactly
6 hours ago, pixpixkid said:Made an account just to post this. Please try take it constructively.
I have beenreading this thread for a while and it seems that most people here are creating false hope with these new 'scarregeneration' techniques on the market. Almost all of the new procedures that were mentioned here do not even mention the treatment of pre-existing scars, butrather, a method for achieving a means toreduce scarring orregenerate tissue at the time of wound healing or a entirely different cosmetic issue. Looking through all the newly proposed treatments mentioned here since 2007 don't even mention its use on the type of scars we are trying to treat.
I am not saying that it is not possible - I'm actually a firm believer that one day any scar (new and old) can be eradicated in the future. However, what many of you here seem to be doing is trying to grasp on to unrealistic expectations fuelled by an inability to accept thatright now, although a lot of advancements have been achieved, we may still have a long way to go. New wounds have only just been thoroughlyresearched to regenerateon animals - not humans. Please just stop creating unjustified conclusions that whatever treatment that is coming up is going to work on whatever you are going to treat. 95% of the treatments brought up here never mentioned acne scars or pre-existing scars.
I may be wrong and if I am - I apologise. But this is just what I have gathered from reading here
That is because acne scar is not a big enough market for multi billion dollar investment. There are already treatments out there that gives 80% improvement...not impossible to achieve 100% from here on.
1 hour ago, Binga said:That is because acne scar is not a big enough market for multi billion dollar investment. There are already treatments out there that gives 80% improvement...not impossible to achieve 100% from here on.
Sorry -i'm not sure if I can agree with you here
Scar free healing has only really gathered serious momentum in the past 10 years and sadly its probably being driven because of how lucrative the market is now given its current treatments are largely underwhelming rather than being propelled bypeople who genuinely care about ending scars. This is not an easy fix its going to take time. It could be less than 2years it could be more than 10 its just a guessing game at the end of the day.
Constant speculation is just part of this forum and it fuels discussion. We all have different opinions and levels of hope.
This thread is for the discussion of scarless healing techniques, period. Regardless of anyone's interest or disinterest these techniques will keep being posted. In my posts I've done nothing but present facts, scientific journals and support for my technique of choice that pertains to the subject, and I have repeatedly said to take it with a grain of skepticism. All I've seen so far are replies that are, to be honest, dumb and reminiscent of someone who just wants to negate the topic based on his own pessimism or some deeper insecurities than even some have on the forum. Life's better without scars, but it doesn't end with it. I'd be doing my own thing till i get the info on the success/failure to remove scars as usual. Ciao.
On 3/8/2021 at 5:21 PM, nikkigirl said:Lol......start from the beginning of this thread and keep reading.....treatment after treatment failed.....but people will gladly take your money.....it wasn't too long ago this thread was posting how great Polarity was.
Yet available treatments remain insufficient for many users. I view TCA CROSS and subcision as solid options, but wasting thousands of dollars on disappointing results is still very possible. Those treatments must also be spaced out for proper healing. The treatment process can take years. And it sounds like the options aren't good for the stretch mark folks either.
Until better treatments hit the market, interest in this topic will remain. And while I generally agree that some skepticism is important, David has been quite reasonable.
On 3/21/2021 at 4:01 AM, pixpixkid said:Made an account just to post this. Please try take it constructively.
I have beenreading this thread for a while and it seems that most people here are creating false hope with these new 'scarregeneration' techniques on the market. Almost all of the new procedures that were mentioned here do not even mention the treatment of pre-existing scars, butrather, a method for achieving a means toreduce scarring orregenerate tissue at the time of wound healing or a entirely different cosmetic issue. Looking through all the newly proposed treatments mentioned here since 2007 don't even mention its use on the type of scars we are trying to treat.
I am not saying that it is not possible - I'm actually a firm believer that one day any scar (new and old) can be eradicated in the future. However, what many of you here seem to be doing is trying to grasp on to unrealistic expectations fuelled by an inability to accept thatright now, although a lot of advancements have been achieved, we may still have a long way to go. New wounds have only just been thoroughlyresearched to regenerateon animals - not humans. Please just stop creating unjustified conclusions that whatever treatment that is coming up is going to work on whatever you are going to treat. 95% of the treatments brought up here never mentioned acne scars or pre-existing scars.
I may be wrong and if I am - I apologise. But this is just what I have gathered from reading here
The only thing you fail to notice that we humans are indeed animals too.
On 3/27/2021 at 5:30 AM, Skin Pessimist said:Yet available treatments remain insufficient for many users. I view TCA CROSS and subcision as solid options, but wasting thousands of dollars on disappointing results is still very possible. Those treatments must also be spaced out for proper healing. The treatment process can take years. And it sounds like the options aren't good for the stretch mark folks either.
Until better treatments hit the market, interest in this topic will remain. And while I generally agree that some skepticism is important, David has been quite reasonable.
I have had a lot of treatments...i think they made my face worse.You have to be careful in these after pictures because your skin swells up after a lot of treatments and it looks like your scarring has went away.Then when the swelling goes down the scars return....that is what happened after my Co2 laser resurfacing. Maybe if they had something that would give that swelling appearance to last instead of getting rid of the scars.....it would give the appearance that your scars are gone.
On 3/23/2021 at 7:57 AM, Sniffy said:Scar free healing has only really gathered serious momentum in the past 10 years and sadly its probably being driven because of how lucrative the market is now given its current treatments are largely underwhelming rather than being propelled bypeople who genuinely care about ending scars. This is not an easy fix its going to take time. It could be less than 2years it could be more than 10 its just a guessing game at the end of the day.
Constant speculation is just part of this forum and it fuels discussion. We all have different opinions and levels of hope.
Try more than 10 years.
