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18 hours ago, Anushkaaa said:When do you think Elastagen could be used on stretch marks? My 100pound weight loss is useless as i have so many stretch marks, not a lot of loose skin tho
Probably a similar time frame
Congrats on the weight loss! Stretch marks are a nuisance, but maintaining a healthy weight is still good for your health
8 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:Probably a similar time frame
Congrats on the weight loss! Stretch marks are a nuisance, but maintaining a healthy weight is still good for your health
Thank you but the woman on Quora says maximum 3 years. I gained weight due to pcod, but I have Stretch Marks everywhere , it kills me
2 hours ago, Didikaxonim1 said:When will they announce the results of micro coring acne scars? Or is it after micro coring hits the market?
No one knows.
1 hour ago, Anushka a said:Thank you but the woman on Quora says maximum 3 years. I gained weight due to pcod, but I have Stretch Marks everywhere , it kills me
Be strong! At least you were not born 10-20 years ago) So far, cytrellis have shown one photo, in which the result after one procedure on stretch marks, (if you or anyone else didnt see, so I will attach. do not forget that this is one procedure, and the result of each next one adds up with the last )
I did post the acne/straie microcoring overview a while back(just an article page that discussed results - decreased fibrosis/scarring), and kept being asked by someone as though they couldn't read or understand all the things that have been discussed here, even when I gave several information that I sourced online, from the densities of the needles and how they correspond to the percentage of skin removed to the way it can be used to correct textural scarring - the device will remove the skin and the remaining spaces clump back together to heal scarlessly. Even the pages with the most info on microcoring were written
Does it remove stretch marks? No clue, i have tons from my arms,back and hips, they don't bother me. It's possible but more information is needed.
I have a small scald scar/mark, it's flat and is normal in everything but color, this is something microcoring apparently can fix(by removing bits of it till it's gone). If you have acne scars that does not have fat loss then this could be perfect for you, other types I do not know
I stopped posting here because of the desperation spread in this forum is high and it keeps getting higher when some person's keep asking the same things over and over again someone somewhere has it much worse than you but they are happy. I've seen people with keloids on the head/face, wouldn't they trade that for acne scarring? Jason Pozner will discuss how effective microcoring is for rejuvenation next year April. Hopefully everyone ends up happy, scars or no scars. Peace.
EDIT: Thanks @F1racerfor the video, if you look closely at the console of the device it tells you percentage of skin removed with the number of needles and number of microcores it needs to make to achieve that percentage of skin removal.
Oh thanks @David4bay, I'd never thought to zoom in that close. Yes, you're right if you look on the left hand side of the machine, it gives needlehead options. The one on left is 1 needle and the one on the right is for multiple needles. That's very useful info for the people that just wanted to core their acne scars and leave the good skin alone, it looks like you can.
19 hours ago, gantz said:No one knows.
Be strong! At least you were not born 10-20 years ago) So far, cytrellis have shown one photo, in which the result after one procedure on stretch marks, (if you or anyone else didnt see, so I will attach. do not forget that this is one procedure, and the result of each next one adds up with the last )
Well I am 18 years old so I was born not long ago
Just a question, if microcoring were to be used on pre-existing fibrotic scars (e.g. trauma scars) how would the skin regenerate skin appendageslike hair follicles, fat cells andglands? In order for this to be truly scarless, wouldn't these structures have to be regenerated too?Anyone read any research papers regarding this? Thanks!
2 hours ago, ScarFace100 said:Just a question, if microcoring were to be used on pre-existing fibrotic scars (e.g. trauma scars) how would the skin regenerate skin appendageslike hair follicles, fat cells andglands? In order for this to be truly scarless, wouldn't these structures have to be regenerated too?Anyone read any research papers regarding this? Thanks!
There is no regeneration, the skin in place of the removed cores is simply pulled together (this is property of our skin)without leaving a scar
In other words, it is similar to cutting out a scar, but it does not leave its own scar compared to surgical methods.
3 hours ago, gantz said:There is no regeneration, the skin in place of the removed cores is simply pulled together (this is property of our skin)without leaving a scar
In other words, it is similar to cutting out a scar, but it does not leave its own scar compared to surgical methods.
So if there's no regeneration of skin appendages how can it treat pre-existing fibrotic scars? Without hair follicles, fat cells, glands etc. wouldn't the scarred skin being treatedstill look distinct from normal healthy skin, even after healed?
Also do you have a link to where I can read about the skin pulling together after the cores are removed? Sound interesting
Thanks!
Wound contraction is the skin's natural response to injury. The full thickness cores are so small in diameter that their removal does not cause another scar. The theory is not that you're tricking it in to 'regenerating' the scar, but rather you're tricking the body in to 'deleting' the scar and closing the gap by bringing healthy skin closer together. I would probably go back to page 421 and start reading from there.
1 hour ago, F1racer said:Wound contraction is the skin's natural response to injury. The full thickness cores are so small in diameter that their removal does not cause another scar. The theory is not that you're tricking it in to 'regenerating' the scar, but rather you're tricking the body in to 'deleting' the scar and closing the gap by bringing healthy skin closer together. I would probably go back to page 421 and start reading from there.
Interesting. So if it's based on 'deletion' of skin would this be any effective on scars on the face/body with high tension (e.g. scars on the nose, chest, forehead, etc)? I've read that micro-coring was primarily aimed at treating wrinkles and skin laxity, so I'm guessing the 'deleted' skin paves way for skin tightening... but what if the skin is already tight ?
https://practicaldermatology.com/articles/2020-oct/dermal-micro-coring-101
https://www.newbeauty.com/cytrellis-dermal-micro-coring-skin-tightening/
Google - micro coring, you find some articles, well from what i read its all about tigtening the skin, i doubt this will work for acne scars better then treatments we already have.
From what i red online its all about the fact that skin lifting is possible with surgery or to some extent with radiofrequency , but surgery is way to go if you wanna do skin lift ( f.e. lasers doesnt lift the skin ), so this is supposed to be something like micro surgery and with few treatments you can achieve great effect for skin lifting without full face surgery , thats it.
If the skin is already tight, it has the ability to stretch. Tissue expansion is a common surgical practice to create more skin by stretching it slowly. They have statedpeople in their early 30s are part of their target audience for the micro face lift. The skin is still quite tight in that age group already.It's difficult to hypothesise on what theresults would be on areas of high tension such as the chest as Cytrellis has only been clinically trialled on the lower face and cheeks so far.
one more thing, you can go higher than 10% removal of tha area you can go even close to 40% without scarring as studies show, but if you ask me i am confortable with 25% removal of the area every 1-2 monthes
8 hours ago, damnBOY said:one more thing, you can go higher than 10% removal of tha area you can go even close to 40% without scarring as studies show, but if you ask me i am confortable with 25% removal of the area every 1-2 monthes
oh, i've seen this study but it was locked for me. did you buy it?
7 minutes ago, damnBOY said:i have free access fromuniversity, give me email if you want something