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6 hours ago, lehran said:Hey there ! I actually shared the papers a few days before. Check them out on page 470. I would be really interested to see the source on quora where you mentioned that woman who said that the product would be out very soon though, thank you.
Yeah I saw but i didn't understand. My bad.
Look at this link , this woman on Quora constantly talks about elastagen.
Also PolarityTe got its patent. Their technology sounds promising. Do u have any opinion about it
9 hours ago, Anushkaaa said:Yeah I saw but i didn't understand. My bad.
Look at this link , this woman on Quora constantly talks about elastagen.
Also PolarityTe got its patent. Their technology sounds promising. Do u have any opinion about it
All she said was that it would be coming in a couple of years, and although I agree with her assessment, I wouldn't call that "super soon" at all. It's coming, but not that soon.
I don't really have an opinion on PolarityTe to be honest.I'm focused on stretch marks mostly, and it's not something that will be able to treat this kind of skin condition.
3 hours ago, lehran said:All she said was that it would be coming in a couple of years, and although I agree with her assessment, I wouldn't call that "super soon" at all. It's coming, but not that soon.
I don't really have an opinion on PolarityTe to be honest.I'm focused on stretch marks mostly, and it's not something that will be able to treat this kind of skin condition.
Dude then have u checked out striort??. Even my only concern is stretchmarks.Dipomed is more promising. They have pictures all over instagram. Dipomed promises an 85 percent reduction in stretchmarks and striort 80. Please check it out on instagram. Dipomed acc to me is better. Turkey and Brazil is where these techniques are super common
16 hours ago, Anushkaaa said:Dude then have u checked out striort??. Even my only concern is stretchmarks.Dipomed is more promising. They have pictures all over instagram. Dipomed promises an 85 percent reduction in stretchmarks and striort 80. Please check it out on instagram. Dipomed acc to me is better. Turkey and Brazil is where these techniques are super common
Same bullshit as carboxytherapy, fractional radiofrequency, leds, fractional laser, dermaroller, peelings yada yada yada...they all promise 80% reduction, and the improvement is minimal at best afterwards.
If there really was a working treatment for stretch marks out there we'd know, believe me. Stretch marks are zones of the skin devoid of elastin fibers and collagene. We know how to restore collagene (to a degree), but no one has something to restore elastin except elastagen.
3 hours ago, lehran said:Same bullshit as carboxytherapy, fractional radiofrequency, leds, fractional laser, dermaroller, peelings yada yada yada...they all promise 80% reduction, and the improvement is minimal at best afterwards.
If there really was a working treatment for stretch marks out there we'd know, believe me. Stretch marks are zones of the skin devoid of elastin fibers and collagene. We know how to restore collagene (to a degree), but no one has something to restore elastin except elastagen.
Microneedling RF is supposed to create New collagen and elastin
3 hours ago, lehran said:Same bullshit as carboxytherapy, fractional radiofrequency, leds, fractional laser, dermaroller, peelings yada yada yada...they all promise 80% reduction, and the improvement is minimal at best afterwards.
If there really was a working treatment for stretch marks out there we'd know, believe me. Stretch marks are zones of the skin devoid of elastin fibers and collagene. We know how to restore collagene (to a degree), but no one has something to restore elastin except elastagen.
Dermaroller is the stupidest treatment tbh. It creates more hyperpigmentation and there is no improvement. Someone I know had a combination of microneedling RF and fractional laser and her marks are completely concealed now, but the doctor said any change in weight say 7 to 8 kgs will make her more prone to these mark and they could become worse.
Do you know more about carboxytherapy? Also when can elastagen come? Could it be 2022? Also I lost about 40 kgs of weight and on the area of stretchmarks I have loose skin as well. So do u think microcoring would be helpful?
20 minutes ago, Miro said:Microneedling RF is supposed to create New collagen and elastin
that's exactly what they said about LED therapy for stretch marks, and it's a scam. I've asked the best surgeons in France, by phone, after witnessing no difference whatsoever before or after, and all of them told me that it's nothing but a sham. Right now, collagen is the one component that practicians manage to restore, but nothing restores elastine.
7 hours ago, lehran said:Same bullshit as carboxytherapy, fractional radiofrequency, leds, fractional laser, dermaroller, peelings yada yada yada...they all promise 80% reduction, and the improvement is minimal at best afterwards.
If there really was a working treatment for stretch marks out there we'd know, believe me. Stretch marks are zones of the skin devoid of elastin fibers and collagene. We know how to restore collagene (to a degree), but no one has something to restore elastin except elastagen.
Dipomed is a non surgical method idk how but they use vacuum tubes to bring blood to the surface and stretchmarks get improvement. Please do see this. I would give it a try , it's not available in my country
19 hours ago, Anushka a said:Dipomed is a non surgical method idk how but they use vacuum tubes to bring blood to the surface and stretchmarks get improvement. Please do see this. I would give it a try , it's not available in my country
it's always the same technique: a different angle, a different light ,a different tone, some cover, some cream, sometimes some photoshop and there it is.
I don't believe in anything in the market right now, and if I do, it's because there are tons of proper investment or green signals behind it.
On 12/5/2020 at 7:26 PM, lehran said:it's always the same technique: a different angle, a different light ,a different tone, some cover, some cream, sometimes some photoshop and there it is.
I don't believe in anything in the market right now, and if I do, it's because there are tons of proper investment or green signals behind it.
True that. Currently nothing can help stretchmarks, but what makes the world so confident about elastagen.not smashing hopes as I am a victim of deep horrendous marks all over my body but the product is still not released. Their product restores elastin but what about collagen. Tbh the current technology can reduce stretchmarks by 75 percent if taken a lot of treatment but a little weight gain leaves the skin ugly again. Why haven't Allergan or abbvie released the human trials yet?
12 hours ago, F1racer said:Not sure if this had been posted before. It's a video from Dr Waibel's talk at the Cosmetic Surgery Forum in 2019. Footage of the Cytrellis machine in action.
Do you think microcoring can remove the scarred skin like that of Stretch Marks. Also will it be applicable on the slightly loose skin on my arms after weight loss. When can this hit market
I'm a bit disappointed because I was expecting results from a trial with human participants. This whole thing still seems 5+ years away for acne scar treatment.
Quality of life is as good as it's ever been, but I'm stuck wishing I was born a bit later. Oh well. There are worse things to deal with than acne scars I guess
32 minutes ago, Anushkaaa said:Do you think microcoring can remove the scarred skin like that of Stretch Marks. Also will it be applicable on the slightly loose skin on my arms after weight loss. When can this hit market
The doctor has been quoted as saying that all clinical trial information has been with the FDA as of October 2020. The device is now waiting for approval. Cytrellis has been trialled for stretch marks and for acne scars, with allegedly very positive results. They have not released images from this yet. The doctor from the video has also mentioned elsewhere that it can also be used onsurgical scars.
Sorry, I don't know about loose skin on arms but I imagine it could in theory be used for that.It would need many sessions though.
17 hours ago, F1racer said:Not sure if this had been posted before. It's a video from Dr Waibel's talk at the Cosmetic Surgery Forum in 2019. Footage of the Cytrellis machine in action.
Oh, thanks! Finally we can see footage of this thing in action.
5 hours ago, Anushkaaa said:Do you think microcoring can remove the scarred skin like that of Stretch Marks. Also will it be applicable on the slightly loose skin on my arms after weight loss. When can this hit market
It was created for tightening skin, so i think yes.
4 hours ago, F1racer said:The doctor has been quoted as saying that all clinical trial information has been with the FDA as of October 2020. The device is now waiting for approval. Cytrellis has been trialled for stretch marks and for acne scars, with allegedly very positive results. They have not released images from this yet. The doctor from the video has also mentioned elsewhere that it can also be used onsurgical scars.
Sorry, I don't know about loose skin on arms but I imagine it could in theory be used for that.It would need many sessions though.
Omg sounds very promising, rather than getting a tummy tuck and arm lift with a huge ass scar and months of swelling I would want to try this
40 minutes ago, gantz said:Oh, thanks! Finally we can see footage of this thing in action.
It was created for tightening skin, so i think yes.
How many months between 2 sessions?
5 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:I'm a bit disappointed because I was expecting results from a trial with human participants. This whole thing still seems 5+ years away for acne scar treatment.
Quality of life is as good as it's ever been, but I'm stuck wishing I was born a bit later. Oh well. There are worse things to deal with than acne scars I guess
5plus years damn man then what about Elastagen?
19 minutes ago, Anushkaaa said:Omg sounds very promising, rather than getting a tummy tuck and arm lift with a huge ass scar and months of swelling I would want to try this
How many months between 2 sessions?
5plus years damn man then what about Elastagen?
Maybe less than 5, he said about acne scars, but itprimarily aimed at stretch marks
21 minutes ago, Anushkaaa said:Omg sounds very promising, rather than getting a tummy tuck and arm lift with a huge ass scar and months of swelling I would want to try this
How many months between 2 sessions?
5plus years damn man then what about Elastagen?
And about interval between 2 sessions... As you seedowntime of procedure is extremely small
5 hours ago, F1racer said:The doctor has been quoted as saying that all clinical trial information has been with the FDA as of October 2020. The device is now waiting for approval. Cytrellis has been trialled for stretch marks and for acne scars, with allegedly very positive results. They have not released images from this yet. The doctor from the video has also mentioned elsewhere that it can also be used onsurgical scars.
Sorry, I don't know about loose skin on arms but I imagine it could in theory be used for that.It would need many sessions though.
Also, who is this doctor and where he said that?
12 minutes ago, gantz said:Also, who is this doctor and where he said that?
Dr Jill Waibel, a pioneering burns scar doctor,was one of the leads on the clinical trial. She is the woman in the video I posted. She is quoted in the article below here.
1 hour ago, F1racer said:Dr Jill Waibel, a pioneering burns scar doctor,was one of the leads on the clinical trial. She is the woman in the video I posted. She is quoted in the article below here.
Thx again
I mean 5+ for elastagen being used on acne scars, @Anushkaaa
On 12/11/2020 at 8:41 PM, F1racer said:Not sure if this had been posted before. It's a video from Dr Waibel's talk at the Cosmetic Surgery Forum in 2019. Footage of the Cytrellis machine in action.
I m Sorry but i still dont get it , how is this micro coring supposed to change the treatments of acne scars ?
It removes skin scarlessly, it's a simple as that. In theory if you have a box car scar with a base of 5mm x 5mm, after several treatments you should be able to shrink the diameter of the scar. All other treatments at the moment are focused on raising the floor of the scar, which in slow responders is sometimes near impossible. This is about taking out the damage and bringing the sides in. It's scar removal through skin contraction. Possibly very helpful in textural,tethered, and fibroticscarring, but will probably do very little for the type of rolling scar where there is smooth skin but fat loss. It also doesn't rely on heat and creating an overpowered immune response which is the greatest risk factor in terms of laser damage. We shall have to wait and see I guess.
49 minutes ago, F1racer said:It removes skin scarlessly, it's a simple as that. In theory if you have a box car scar with a base of 5mm x 5mm, after several treatments you should be able to shrink the diameter of the scar. All other treatments at the moment are focused on raising the floor of the scar, which in slow responders is sometimes near impossible. This is about taking out the damage and bringing the sides in. It's scar removal through skin contraction. Possibly very helpful in textural,tethered, and fibroticscarring, but will probably do very little for the type of rolling scar where there is smooth skin but fat loss. It also doesn't rely on heat and creating an overpowered immune response which is the greatest risk factor in terms of laser damage. We shall have to wait and see I guess.
It removes small portion of skin and it replaces it with what ?
Small surface injury heal scarlessly but so does a full-thickness hole as long as it's under 0.05. The holes they take by micro coring collapse together within 10 minutes of being taken.It takes about 5-7 days for laser holes to shut properly.That means massively reduced risk of infection and associated scarring. Biopsy does show that there is some skin rejuvenation occurring at the site-increased collagen and elastin etc, but that there is an overall loss of skin area. This is what is of interest. In trials with forced closure -10% density removal resultedin a 9% tightening of that area.