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(@candy-says)

Posted : 10/29/2020 1:21 am

This thread is about scars

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(@onefatalgoose)

Posted : 10/29/2020 1:26 am

 

5 minutes ago, Candy Says said:

This thread is about scars

Acne scars. The pictures you posted in regards to those two with birth defects are dealing with an ailment that is above and beyond any current knowledge in regards to a potential healing approach. I wish them well.

They will need plastic surgery. Their condition is severe. Deformation. of the face. And skin. But......they can still use sulfur and vitamins to help heal and prevent scarring after the surgery.

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(@david4bay)

Posted : 10/29/2020 3:16 am

Wow.. guess it's time to pack up and leave, the last tidbit of info I'll drop is that there will be an event that discusses microcoring by April 2021, "What is microcoring and how effective is it for rejuvenation?" by Jason Pozner.

Well wishes to everyone here.

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Posted : 10/29/2020 3:34 am

That's good news, hopefully we will finally get more details at the Global Aesthetics event.

 

 

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Posted : 10/29/2020 4:25 am

6 hours ago, onefatalgoose said:

Some might argue that this thread has just begun to go uphill. There are always surgical procedures to deal with scarring. Few can afford that I'm afraid. So you are left with VERY few options. When dealing with scars. From all the reading I have done in this thread.....there are very few....if any really.....suggestions that hold any weight, aside from surgery.

 

So I offered a natural approach. Take it or leave it. Not my choice

I'm all for advocating healthy eating -- as this website does -- but it's unlikely to eliminate atrophic acne scars by itself. Peer-reviewed data doesn't back the theory up. Anecdotal testimonials aren't convincing, particularly when unaccompanied by evidence. Acne scar revision is complex. Skin damage often reaches the dermal layer. For such scars, exfoliating the top layer of the skin won't help because the skin has atrophic tissue loss.

This isn't the best place to spread your message, as this thread is focused on potential scientific innovations. Your personal view seems to be that such innovation is impossible. Most of the users on this thread don't believe that, especially since promising research is already underway.

1 hour ago, David4bay said:

Wow.. guess it's time to pack up and leave, the last tidbit of info I'll drop is that there will be an event that discusses microcoring by April 2021, "What is microcoring and how effective is it for rejuvenation?" by Jason Pozner.

Well wishes to everyone here.

I hope you don't permanently leave, as you're one of the quality posters here

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Posted : 10/29/2020 8:00 am

3 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:

Skin damage often reaches the dermal layer. For such scars, exfoliating the top layer of the skin won't help because the skin has atrophic tissue loss.

Yes. Hence surgery. I am sharing a non-surgical and non-invasive alternative. Which has worked wonders for me and many others. Over a period of years. Or.....you can have them surgically addressed. ?

Nothing wrong with that

More expensive

Scarless healing rarely takes place....not in a convenient time frame....and not to your full liking..... It is a flawed idea. And this thread is meant to be a positive/constructive means to help others dealing with scarring yes? Even surgical methods can and do leave additional scarring.

So? What if you could break down that unwanted tissue internally? With something found in nature.....would you try it?

For years? And actually stick with it....

I did. And believe me when I say....it took some time, patience, and will power. To stick with it

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Posted : 10/29/2020 8:18 am

It's like losing weight. It is "impossible" until you actually start seeing results.

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Posted : 10/29/2020 8:21 am

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Posted : 11/02/2020 5:25 pm

I guess we'll all have to calm down now. It's just that, sometimes, people who have an agenda are so obnoxious and easy to read that it is hard not to tell them to stop.

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Posted : 11/02/2020 8:23 pm

2 hours ago, voulzeyes said:

I guess we'll all have to calm down now. It's just that, sometimes, people who have an agenda are so obnoxious and easy to read that it is hard not to tell them to stop.

I didn't notice that you can ignore users. This is the perfect solution to the problem - not to see this nonsense.

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(@de-rerum-natura)

Posted : 11/02/2020 8:24 pm

Please, let's remember the name and the purpose of this topic.

We want the same thing here, and its not scar improvement, its scarless healing

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Posted : 11/03/2020 9:40 am

Scarless Healing Thread

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(@lehran)

Posted : 11/09/2020 7:33 am

Very good news guys, regarding the Elastagen scientific papers. I asked Dr Tony Weiss, who replied that:

-Novel Recombinant Tropoelastin Implants Restore Skin Extracellular Matrix, has been accepted for publication in the Journal of Drugs in Dermatology. The journal is processing it now, so please check online for at https://jddonline.com/issue when it is published.

So basically we just need to check the website regularly from now on, to check when the article will be available.

Just as a reminder though: this is about stretch marks and acne scars.

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(@armanilko)

Posted : 11/09/2020 11:01 am

3 hours ago, lehran said:

Very good news guys, regarding the Elastagen scientific papers. I asked Dr Tony Weiss, who replied that:

-Novel Recombinant Tropoelastin Implants Restore Skin Extracellular Matrix, has been accepted for publication in the Journal of Drugs in Dermatology. The journal is processing it now, so please check online for at https://jddonline.com/issue when it is published.

So basically we just need to check the website regularly from now on, to check when the article will be available.

Just as a reminder though: this is about stretch marks and acne scars.

Thank you man, that's a great update.

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Posted : 11/10/2020 8:27 am

On 11/9/2020 at 1:33 PM, lehran said:

Very good news guys, regarding the Elastagen scientific papers. I asked Dr Tony Weiss, who replied that:

-Novel Recombinant Tropoelastin Implants Restore Skin Extracellular Matrix, has been accepted for publication in the Journal of Drugs in Dermatology. The journal is processing it now, so please check online for at https://jddonline.com/issue when it is published.

So basically we just need to check the website regularly from now on, to check when the article will be available.

Just as a reminder though: this is about stretch marks and acne scars.

Can we pin this comment somewhere? This is basically the answer that tons of people have been looking for, for months now, about "where to look for' when it comes to the elastagen scientific papers.

Now the only question is, will it happen in November or December? If it's being processed right now, I think December seems quite likely.

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Posted : 11/13/2020 10:11 am

Guys any update about elastagen? Can it come in 2021? How effective will it be in curing stretchmarks and acne scar. Microcoring won't be completely able to get rid of stretchmarks tbh. Will Allergan release this product or not. They bought elastagen for this reason right.

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Posted : 11/13/2020 12:55 pm

2 hours ago, Anushkaaa said:

Guys any update about elastagen? Can it come in 2021? How effective will it be in curing stretchmarks and acne scar. Microcoring won't be completely able to get rid of stretchmarks tbh. Will Allergan release this product or not. They bought elastagen for this reason right.

I answered that very question a few comments before that one, take a look yourself 😉

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Posted : 11/13/2020 3:24 pm

5 hours ago, Anushkaaa said:

Microcoring won't be completely able to get rid of stretchmarks tbh

why do youthink so?

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Posted : 11/14/2020 5:19 am

16 hours ago, lehran said:

I answered that very question a few comments before that one, take a look yourself 😉

Yeah so until the journal comes , all we can do is wait? As Allergan isn't replying when can the product be around in the market which is obvious as no one would reveal about their products but isn't that why Allergan spent 100 million on a clinical trial company .also, thank you. Also do u think we will get an update in a few months???

13 hours ago, gantz said:

why do youthink so?

It is supposed to remove skin with full dermal thickness, but stretchmarks are devoid of dermis . If the devoid part is partially devoid of dermis, we can expect improvement around 100 percent but we def need a lot of session in my opinion. I emailed them so let's wait for a response.

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Posted : 11/14/2020 12:34 pm

7 hours ago, Anushkaaa said:

Yeah so until the journal comes , all we can do is wait? As Allergan isn't replying when can the product be around in the market which is obvious as no one would reveal about their products but isn't that why Allergan spent 100 million on a clinical trial company .also, thank you. Also do u think we will get an update in a few months???

 

We don't know when, all we know is it's eventually coming. And the very reason why we're waiting for the scientific drafts (which should be available soon according to the answer I was given. Although it could mean several weeks still) is precisely because we want to find out how good their tropoelastin-based product is for several skin conditions.

Patience is key here, this isn't the kind of stuff where things suddenly get fixed in a matter of months. We're all waiting for the news, and as soon as it's confirmed that this product works (IF it works), then things will start to get get really interesting.

In the meantime, manage your expectations, be patient, or you could be seriously disappointed.

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Posted : 11/15/2020 7:30 am

18 hours ago, lehran said:

We don't know when, all we know is it's eventually coming. And the very reason why we're waiting for the scientific drafts (which should be available soon according to the answer I was given. Although it could mean several weeks still) is precisely because we want to find out how good their tropoelastin-based product is for several skin conditions.

Patience is key here, this isn't the kind of stuff where things suddenly get fixed in a matter of months. We're all waiting for the news, and as soon as it's confirmed that this product works (IF it works), then things will start to get get really interesting.

In the meantime, manage your expectations, be patient, or you could be seriously disappointed.

So true. Actually it would be revolutionary once it comes provided it's also effective in scar treatment.people would slowly boycott lasers I guess . I know that patience is the key but with a scarred skin, life is difficult and when people comment on it, it's more disheartening. I know there is also a possibility that this won't work but I have kept my expectations with all these upcoming technology as I was hopeless. A lot of people on Quora say that this could be launched suddenly in 2 - 3 years. Some say it's gon take time. Microcoring on the other hand removes 5 percent skin so it's not that effective for stretchmarks as it is for acne scars. I have both. Just praying.please keep us updated , as no one mentioned the journal before you, you gave us a bit of hope

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Posted : 11/15/2020 9:04 am

1 hour ago, Anushkaaa said:

So true. Actually it would be revolutionary once it comes provided it's also effective in scar treatment.people would slowly boycott lasers I guess . I know that patience is the key but with a scarred skin, life is difficult and when people comment on it, it's more disheartening. I know there is also a possibility that this won't work but I have kept my expectations with all these upcoming technology as I was hopeless. A lot of people on Quora say that this could be launched suddenly in 2 - 3 years. Some say it's gon take time. Microcoring on the other hand removes 5 percent skin so it's not that effective for stretchmarks as it is for acne scars. I have both. Just praying.please keep us updated , as no one mentioned the journal before you, you gave us a bit of hope

My pleasure 😉 . Honestly anyone would have been able to share the news at some point. The fact that Rob Daniels was kind enough to tell me about the scientifics drafts (he probably told tons of other people as well) is, in itself, a fair reason to start thinking that they're satisfied enough to show their results to people out there. Just gotta wait and see now ^^ !

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Posted : 11/16/2020 12:54 pm

On 11/15/2020 at 7:34 PM, lehran said:

My pleasure 😉 . Honestly anyone would have been able to share the news at some point. The fact that Rob Daniels was kind enough to tell me about the scientifics drafts (he probably told tons of other people as well) is, in itself, a fair reason to start thinking that they're satisfied enough to show their results to people out there. Just gotta wait and see now ^^ !

Do you have any idea whether elastagen is same as rejuvederm. I read an article about how this are going to be released as fillers or something

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Posted : 11/17/2020 7:01 am

18 hours ago, Anushkaaa said:

Do you have any idea whether elastagen is same as rejuvederm. I read an article about how this are going to be released as fillers or something

I don't think so. I know that, at some point, elastagen's products were in allergan's pipeline, but since they've been absorbed by abbvie, they stopped appearing there.

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