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(@didikaxonim1)

Posted : 09/27/2020 4:49 am

19 minutes ago, Miro said:

I mean how this is supposed to help remove acne scars ? This is some wound healing mechanism

unfortunately, I dont know either. how does it work. and how does it help

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(@armanilko)

Posted : 09/27/2020 3:25 pm

People have been answering all those questions before. Just go a few weeks/months back. The only thing we can do in the meantime is simply wait for official news concerning future technologies. The most awaited one is about elastagen, since they will be releasing papers the next months (either Q4 2020 or q1 2021)

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Posted : 09/29/2020 2:47 pm

On 9/27/2020 at 5:40 PM, Didikaxonim1 said:

Sunogel is also working now. I read on the forum. There Guoming wrote about sunogel and wrote that he would reveal everything, if possible. His Twitter page was also updated on 29 August.

Can you show this please where Sunogel updated?

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Posted : 09/30/2020 4:27 am

16 minutes ago, Scarcure said:

I almost cried reading this notice

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Posted : 09/30/2020 5:32 am

1 hour ago, De Rerum Natura said:

I almost cried reading this notice

A Lot of work still needs to be done , can Be another 10 years

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Posted : 09/30/2020 3:36 pm

11 hours ago, De Rerum Natura said:

I almost cried reading this notice

Glad it made you happy .... hopefully it's soon for us mate.

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Posted : 10/01/2020 3:48 am

For those keen on microcoring, the pdf document "1044-Compte-rendu-ASLMS-2019" discusses a 20 person trial on scars and results. It works. Be patient. 

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Posted : 10/01/2020 4:16 am

27 minutes ago, David4bay said:

For those keen on microcoring, the pdf document "1044-Compte-rendu-ASLMS-2019" discusses a 20 person trial on scars and results. It works. Be patient. 

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So Microcoring actually get rid of scar tissue ? ... or only reduces it ? thank you for the link mate.

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Posted : 10/01/2020 4:28 am

13 minutes ago, Scarcure said:

So Microcoring actually get rid of scar tissue ? ... or only reduces it ? thank you for the link mate.

It's the same thing, don't confuse yourself. its a tissue extraction device. Scars don't proliferate(except keloids and hypertrophic scars) so extracting that tissue reduces it, and with subsequent removals and accuracy it may remove the tissue completely or beyond the range you can see.

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Posted : 10/01/2020 4:37 am

13 minutes ago, David4bay said:

It's the same thing, don't confuse yourself. its a tissue extraction device. Scars don't proliferate(except keloids and hypertrophic scars) so extracting that tissue reduces it, and with subsequent removals and accuracy it may remove the tissue completely or beyond the range you can see.

Am not , because reduction from am perspective implies it can't be removed but the scar tissue can have a softer look ( meaning it won't go away but it looks " better " ) when i use the word remove i meant with enough treatments your skin is back it its original form ( meaning before the scar occurred )

Like dermaroller for example .... it can reduce the look of the scar tissue , however it can't remove it .... to remove means for your skin to basically go back to pre scarred skin.

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Posted : 10/01/2020 6:11 am

https://newatlas.com/science/scar-free-wound-healing-adult-skin/  Same story , but this has got me optimistic :)

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Posted : 10/01/2020 6:58 am

2 hours ago, Scarcure said:

Am not , because reduction from am perspective implies it can't be removed but the scar tissue can have a softer look  ( meaning it won't go away but it looks " better " ) when i use the word remove i meant with enough treatments your skin is back it its original form ( meaning before the scar occurred ) 

Like dermaroller for example .... it can reduce the look of the scar tissue , however it can't remove it .... to remove means for your skin to basically go back to pre scarred skin.

 

So to reduce something to you means to make it softer?

I kind of get where you're going but this isn't a microneedle or dermabrading tool, and you've been told this for a while now.

Look, I'll be real with you like I am with everyone here. I can't give you definite answers apart from the source which says scars were reduced, and this reduction is from that scarred tissue being extracted fractionally 9-10% by treatments so either way the tech will be out soon for all to see. Reverting skin from scarred healing to minimise scarring is good news but you should know better that the tech will be decades away if not more with a lot of safety regulations on specific use-case scenerios.

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Posted : 10/01/2020 7:10 am

8 minutes ago, David4bay said:

So to reduce something to you means to make it softer?

I kind of get where you're going but this isn't a microneedle or dermabrading tool, and you've been told this for a while now.

Look, I'll be real with you like I am with everyone here. I can't give you definite answers apart from the source which says scars were reduced, and this reduction is from that scarred tissue being extracted fractionally 9-10% by treatments so either way the tech will be out soon for all to see. Reverting skin from scarred healing to minimise scarring is good news but you should know better that the tech will be decades away if not more with a lot of safety regulations on specific use-case scenerios.

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I want to know something here , what makes you assume that technology of scarred skin being reverted to scar free non blemished skin will be decades away , that is an assumption without any basis what so ever , am sorry and with all due respect to you , you're not a biologist , a skin expert or a scientist .... so to make assumptions of time frames like that isn't helping.   

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Posted : 10/01/2020 9:30 am

5 hours ago, David4bay said:

For those keen on microcoring, the pdf document "1044-Compte-rendu-ASLMS-2019" discusses a 20 person trial on scars and results. It works. Be patient. 

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Thx for sharing. But where did you find it?

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Posted : 10/01/2020 10:05 am

@gantz Was looking for more studies of micro-excisional treatments and tech.

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Posted : 10/01/2020 10:27 am

20 minutes ago, David4bay said:

@gantz Was looking for more studies of micro-excisional treatments and tech.

when was this photo published? for a long time?

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Posted : 10/01/2020 10:31 am

3 minutes ago, Didikaxonim1 said:

when was this photo published? for a long time?

2019..

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Posted : 10/02/2020 2:27 am

There is something I am not understanding. If the scientists behind Cytrellis know that a scar occurs in a wound diametergreater than 400 - 500 microns (0.4-0.5 mm)then why are they using 22 gauge sizeneedles which are 0.7mm?

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Posted : 10/02/2020 8:13 am

5 hours ago, F1racer said:

There is something I am not understanding. If the scientists behind Cytrellis know that a scar occurs in a wound diametergreater than 400 - 500 microns (0.4-0.5 mm)then why are they using 22 gauge sizeneedles which are 0.7mm?

Their modified needles extract 0.5mm cores of full thickness skin, the extra .2mm might be from the hollow needle diameter.

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Posted : 10/04/2020 4:07 am

16 hours ago, gantz said:

 

Stop posting the same news

Beg your pardon ? if i want to post something that could be a big deal for the elimination of scarring i will , don't this excite you as much as it does for me ? this is huge news.

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