Just now, Scarlessfuture said:Keep trolling....you are pretty good at it.
There you go again .... just go away .... take a hint ... no talking to me .... simple yes .....
22 minutes ago, Didikaxonim said:https://iz.ru/896078/mariia-nediuk/shramy-v-proshlom-v-rossii-sozdaetsia-lekarstvo-ot-rubtcov
it is all written in this link
Thank you , this is appreciated mate.
2 minutes ago, Scarcure said:There you go again .... just go away .... take a hint ... no talking to me .... simple yes .....
Thank you , this is appreciated mate.
When will you ever grow up... I wonder. Did you ever realize you are 31 years old?
30 minutes ago, Didikaxonim said:https://iz.ru/896078/mariia-nediuk/shramy-v-proshlom-v-rossii-sozdaetsia-lekarstvo-ot-rubtcov
it is all written in this link
I have read about this and scientists in the US have also found ways to regenerate scar tissue into healthy looking skin with full appendages. Look up Cotsarelis.
Unfortunately, most of these studies stay on the shelves in university libraries for years. The funding is either not there or the conditions to get results are impossible to achieve.
There are more important things that scientists are working on such as finding a Covid19 vaccine or HIV cure. This is why a good treatment for scarring is still far away. There are clinical trials that need to be done and those take an awfully long time.
Someone has mentioned subcision and TCA peels. It seems these are the preferred acne scar treatments at that moment and some get excellent results.
29 minutes ago, Scarlessfuture said:When will you ever grow up... I wonder. Did you ever realize you are 31 years old?
I have read about this and scientists in the US have also found ways to regenerate scar tissue into healthy looking skin with full appendages. Look up Cotsarelis.
Unfortunately, most of these studies stay on the shelves in university libraries for years. The funding is either not there or the conditions to get results are impossible to achieve.
There are more important things that scientists are working on such as finding a Covid19 vaccine or HIV cure. This is why a good treatment for scarring is still far away. There are clinical trials that need to be done and those take an awfully long time.
Someone has mentioned subcision and TCA peels. It seems these are the preferred acne scar treatments at that moment and some get excellent results.
at least there is elastagen
36 minutes ago, Scarlessfuture said:When will you ever grow up... I wonder. Did you ever realize you are 31 years old?
I have read about this and scientists in the US have also found ways to regenerate scar tissue into healthy looking skin with full appendages. Look up Cotsarelis.
Unfortunately, most of these studies stay on the shelves in university libraries for years. The funding is either not there or the conditions to get results are impossible to achieve.
There are more important things that scientists are working on such as finding a Covid19 vaccine or HIV cure. This is why a good treatment for scarring is still far away. There are clinical trials that need to be done and those take an awfully long time.
Someone has mentioned subcision and TCA peels. It seems these are the preferred acne scar treatments at that moment and some get excellent results.
do not despair. wait.
3 hours ago, Armanilko said:https://iz.ru/896078/mariia-nediuk/shramy-v-proshlom-v-rossii-sozdaetsia-lekarstvo-ot-rubtcov&prev=search&pto=au e" rel="external nofollow"> https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=https://iz.ru/896078/mariia-nediuk/shramy-v-proshlom-v-rossii-sozdaetsia-lekarstvo-ot-rubtcov&prev=search&pto=aue
For those who want the translation
- Fibrosis of tissues is the most important, but still not solved medical problem.Despite intensive research, there are no effective and safe drugs in clinical practice that can prevent or reverse fibrosis, the expert said.- The antifibrotic properties of menstrual blood and endometrium studied at Moscow State University are undoubtedly promising, and this area of research needs to be developed.When the antifibrotic components of the blood are identified and isolated, new possibilities for controlling the reversibility of fibrotic processes will open before us.
However, according to Pyotr Timashev, scientists still have to solve a number of issues.For example, it is known that after a cesarean section, scars remain on the uterus, that is, the alleged antifibrotic properties of endometrial stem cells do not prevent this process.
This is another 10 years of research at least .
7 minutes ago, Miro said:- Fibrosis of tissues is the most important, but still not solved medical problem. Despite intensive research, there are no effective and safe drugs in clinical practice that can prevent or reverse fibrosis, the expert said. - The antifibrotic properties of menstrual blood and endometrium studied at Moscow State University are undoubtedly promising, and this area of research needs to be developed. When the antifibrotic components of the blood are identified and isolated, new possibilities for controlling the reversibility of fibrotic processes will open before us.
However, according to Pyotr Timashev, scientists still have to solve a number of issues. For example, it is known that after a cesarean section, scars remain on the uterus, that is, the alleged antifibrotic properties of endometrial stem cells do not prevent this process.
This is another 10 years of research at least .
Yep, def gonna take a long time in their case.
From all I've gathered, seems like the most difficult scars to treat by far are indeed keloid scars and hypertrophic scars, as you can't just fix them by using a skin implant or anything, like elastagen would with tropoelastin.
3 hours ago, Armanilko said:Yep, def gonna take a long time in their case.
From all I've gathered, seems like the most difficult scars to treat by far are indeed keloid scars and hypertrophic scars, as you can't just fix them by using a skin implant or anything, like elastagen would with tropoelastin.
Absolutely. Hypertrophic scars and atrophic scars pose a very different problem: you need to fill in the void left by atrophic scars (I.E what elastagen will do with its tropoelastin-based product) while you need to find a way to remove the excess skin caused by excessively raised scars while also giving back the original looking aspect of the skin.
We had tons of conversations about it, and basically some people asked Tony Weiss ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_S._Weiss) about it: apparently they're also working on hypertrophic ones, but it's gonna take several more years than stretch marks and acne scars to fix (which is why, I suppose, the science papers that will be released at the end of the year will only mention stretch marks and acne scars).
tldr: nothing really changed since the last few months we talked. Elastagen brings a real fix to stretch marks, atrophic scars and several forms of acne scars, but as for the more serious forms of scarring it's going to take longer before we see something appear it would seem.
Just now, lehran said:We had tons of conversations about it, and basically some people asked Tony Weiss ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_S._Weiss) about it: apparently they're also working on hypertrophic ones, but it's gonna take several more years than stretch marks and acne scars to fix (which is why, I suppose, the science papers that will be released at the end of the year will only mention stretch marks and acne scars).
Yeah, that part makes a lot of sense. Allergan only releases scientific drafts (proof of concept + results and safety of the procedure) right before they release a new product. Which means that the results are definitely good enough in their eyes, and that they're preparing to launch either next year or the year after 2021 (so either 2021-2022)
8 hours ago, Scarlessfuture said:When will you ever grow up... I wonder. Did you ever realize you are 31 years old?
I have read about this and scientists in the US have also found ways to regenerate scar tissue into healthy looking skin with full appendages. Look up Cotsarelis.
Unfortunately, most of these studies stay on the shelves in university libraries for years. The funding is either not there or the conditions to get results are impossible to achieve.
There are more important things that scientists are working on such as finding a Covid19 vaccine or HIV cure. This is why a good treatment for scarring is still far away. There are clinical trials that need to be done and those take an awfully long time.
Someone has mentioned subcision and TCA peels. It seems these are the preferred acne scar treatments at that moment and some get excellent results.
Yeah , and how many times have i told you stop responding ...., you are aware you can block me right ?
15 minutes ago, Scarlessfuture said:I don't block people. You are just an overgrown baby.I pity you.
So you just carry on ? who's the real arsehole in all of this ? .... and calling someone with depression( which is clear by my writing ) a baby is pretty shitty of you .... you really are something else .... be careful who you talk to as they may be suicidal and at the end of their rope .... oh and cry me a river .... you are clearly a decent and empathetic person.
1 hour ago, Scarcure said:So you just carry on ? who's the real arsehole in all of this ? .... and calling someone with depression( which is clear by my writing ) a baby is pretty shitty of you .... you really are something else .... be careful who you talk to as they may be suicidal and at the end of their rope .... oh and cry me a river .... you are clearly a decent and empathetic person.
You need help!!! You forgot your meds.
9 hours ago, Armanilko said:Yeah, that part makes a lot of sense. Allergan only releases scientific drafts (proof of concept + results and safety of the procedure) right before they release a new product. Which means that the results are definitely good enough in their eyes, and that they're preparing to launch either next year or the year after 2021 (so either 2021-2022)
Did you ask someone related to elastagenspecifically about the appearance of the treated area? Maybe you already answered, but I didn't notice (sorryif so)
1 hour ago, gantz said:Did you ask someone related to elastagenspecifically about the appearance of the treated area? Maybe you already answered, but I didn't notice (sorryif so)
Well also i d be interested how this is supposed to work, i mean technicly, do they remove scared area and they replace it with synthetic skin ? Or is it supposed to be some kind of filler ?
3 hours ago, Miro said:This sounds highly unlikely to me
4 hours ago, Didikaxonim said:probably grows new skin
Elastogen is a synthetic product made from organic elements allowing for elasticin to regeneration. All connective tissue has elasticin including blood vessels, tendons and ligaments. What does this protein do.....? Well, it allows the skin to return to it's normal position when stretched.
The idea behind Elastogen is that it will promote elasticin, laying down new layers of collagen which will improve healing time and scar appearance. Research suggests that scar tissue lacks elasticin blocking off regeneration.