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41 minutes ago, lehran said:I'm sorry but just use google translate tool if you didn't get my original quote, I'm not going to re-explain it all over again (I did several times months ago).
nb: @Armanilko I'm also in contact with the elastagen team. Do you mind if I upload the scientific papers here myself when they're out, if you haven't done it yourself by the time they're available?
Sure, I'll let you post it in fact, you're the one who took so much time looking into elastagen and what they're doing so far.
Other than microcoring and Elastogen, it seems very quiet lately for scar free healing.
This thread is 15 years old but nobody has found the secret to skin regeneration. There are thousands of people out there disfigured by burns, trauma, surgery and skin diseases like acne, but there doesn't seem to be much fundinggoing into this.
19 minutes ago, Scarlessfuture said:Other than microcoring and Elastogen, it seems very quiet lately for scar free healing.
This thread is 15 years old but nobody has found the secret to skin regeneration. There are thousands of people out there disfigured by burns, trauma, surgery and skin diseases like acne, but there doesn't seem to be much fundinggoing into this.
Well i think everyone should just calm down, there s always some magic treatment on the horizon, but it seems like it never happens, dont set your expectations too high and you wont be disappointed
6 hours ago, Scarlessfuture said:You just can't shut up, can you. You always must have the final word.
Please educate us about burns again. Please go see a psychiatrist, I think you forgot your meds.
I know you are an idiot, but what am I? And don't forget to honor your last commitment, don't reply to my post....the end.
Mate , i think what you're doing is projecting .... you're the one that undermined my concerns about my skin with the " get a grip " phrase ....and please do kindly go away now .... ask me what have you done on her other than troll ?
25 minutes ago, Scarcure said:Mate , i think what you're doing is projecting .... you're the one that undermined my concerns about my skin with the " get a grip " phrase ....and please do kindly go away now .... ask me what have you done on her other than troll ?
Why did you reply to my post? Seems you can't even honor what you preach. Can't you dissappear already? You bring nothing new to the conversation except for your egocentric self-esteem issues. Go get help!!
1 hour ago, Scarlessfuture said:Other than microcoring and Elastogen, it seems very quiet lately for scar free healing.
This thread is 15 years old but nobody has found the secret to skin regeneration. There are thousands of people out there disfigured by burns, trauma, surgery and skin diseases like acne, but there doesn't seem to be much fundinggoing into this.
People have been telling you for months: stop being so insecure about your scars. Hundreds of millions (if not billions) of people have to deal with: scars, acne scars, stretch marks, diseases of all sorts yada yada yada...you're only human.
My advice: don't wait for the treatment to come out to start living. Once something satisfying comes out the next 1-10 years (depending on what you have) you'll get it, but in the meantime live your life fully, or you're really going to regret it once you're old and you realise that physical apperance never was everything to begin with, far from it.
1 minute ago, Armanilko said:People have been telling you for months: stop being so insecure about your scars. Hundreds of millions (if not billions) of people have to deal with: scars, acne scars, stretch marks, diseases of all sorts yada yada yada...you're only human.
My advice: don't wait for the treatment to come out to start living. Once something satisfying comes out the next 1-10 years (depending on what you have) you'll get it, but in the meantime live your life fully, or you're really going to regret it once you're old and you realise that physical apperance never was everything to begin with, far from it.
I think you quoted the wrong person, maybe you need to tell that to scarcure not me.
@Scarcureremind me, i've been away a long time, what scars do you have for you to sound so desperate about them?
33 minutes ago, lehran said:@Scarcureremind me, i've been away a long time, what scars do you have for you to sound so desperate about them?
Hello there , i have scarring all over my face due to a pixel laser treatment on January 24 2014 ..... i was concerned this reached the hypodermis however i can still smile and frown etc .... it's incredibly depressing i had acne scarring and scarring from fights before this ... i have had scarring for over 13 years ... ( since i was 18 years old ) am 31 now
4 hours ago, Scarcure said:Hello there , i have scarring all over my face due to a pixel laser treatment on January 24 2014 ..... i was concerned this reached the hypodermis however i can still smile and frown etc .... it's incredibly depressing i had acne scarring and scarring from fights before this ... i have had scarring for over 13 years ... ( since i was 18 years old ) am 31 now
Poor baby!!! Did mommy forget to bring you milk? You are 31 year olds, go out there and enjoy your life for pete's sake.
I've got acne scarring too, mostly my back and shoulders. Lots of facial scars from several mishaps but chicks seem to go nuts about them. I would love to get a clear back for once and get rid of my facial pits from latge zits, but considering this forum is 15 years old, scarless healing likely will never happen in my lifetime. Stop being a waste of skin and do something productive. Depression is a serious illness.
9 hours ago, Scarcure said:Hello there , i have scarring all over my face due to a pixel laser treatment on January 24 2014 ..... i was concerned this reached the hypodermis however i can still smile and frown etc .... it's incredibly depressing i had acne scarring and scarring from fights before this ... i have had scarring for over 13 years ... ( since i was 18 years old ) am 31 now
I think I told you in the past, but I have some stretch marks on my shoulders (a couple), behind the upper part of my back (right behind my arms), a couple on my hips, on my butt, on each side of my crotch, some on my knees. Basically I grew too fast too young and it happened. They're "normal" stretch marks mostly, so I can live with them, but I'm super self conscious about having them all over as a guy, and I do have to work on that even today. You, in comparison, mostly have scars in one place: your face (and like someone else said, women love scars).
I never had problem with ladies due to my stretch marks, I never had problem getting laid due do them. I'm the one who feels bad about them sometimes, but I still enjoy living, going out and so on.
Don't beat yourself too much about scars until something comes out, it's a part of life: they're not ugly, they're not beautiful or anything, they're neutral: it's just something that happened at some point in your life, it didn't change you at all nor what you can do.
TLDR: be the same guy you were before you got them, and just live your life while waiting for something to come out.
@ScarlessfutureI know scarcure can sometimes be depressing and negative, but some people feel extremely bad about their skin issues, to the point where it affects their everyday mood, try not to make this escalate too much, it's not worth it honestly (although I understand your sentiment).
7 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:There have been in the past, but I don't believe so. It might be time for a few new mods to help BA and company. BA is slammed with PMs constantly
I'd vote for @lehran and you honestly if we could choose two mods: both of you always have been the chillest and most down to earth people since I joined this forum
9 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:There have been in the past, but I don't believe so. It might be time for a few new mods to help BA and company. BA is slammed with PMs constantly
did sunogel fail?
1 hour ago, lehran said:I think I told you in the past, but I have some stretch marks on my shoulders (a couple), behind the upper part of my back (right behind my arms), a couple on my hips, on my butt, on each side of my crotch, some on my knees. Basically I grew too fast too young and it happened. They're "normal" stretch marks mostly, so I can live with them, but I'm super self conscious about having them all over as a guy, and I do have to work on that even today. You, in comparison, mostly have scars in one place: your face (and like someone else said, women love scars).
I never had problem with ladies due to my stretch marks, I never had problem getting laid due do them. I'm the one who feels bad about them sometimes, but I still enjoy living, going out and so on.
Don't beat yourself too much about scars until something comes out, it's a part of life: they're not ugly, they're not beautiful or anything, they're neutral: it's just something that happened at some point in your life, it didn't change you at all nor what you can do.
TLDR: be the same guy you were before you got them, and just live your life while waiting for something to come out.
@ScarlessfutureI know scarcure can sometimes be depressing and negative, but some people feel extremely bad about their skin issues, to the point where it affects their everyday mood, try not to make this escalate too much, it's not worth it honestly (although I understand your sentiment).
did sunogel fail?
I don't understand English very well. I live in Central Asia. I'm very interested in whether Sunogel failed or not. I wrote this to the director on Instagram.
31 minutes ago, lehran said:@DidikaxonimI don't know what to tell you honestly, why are you asking me and skinpessimist this when armanilko talked about it? You sound a little lost or something, looking at your posts (no offence btw)?
I don't understand English very well. I live in Central Asia. I'm very interested in whether Sunogel failed or not. I wrote this to the director on Instagram.
@Didikaxonim I understood that, and it's alright. What I'm saying is that you should ask the one who mentioned Sunogel, as I didn't do it.
3 hours ago, lehran said:I think I told you in the past, but I have some stretch marks on my shoulders (a couple), behind the upper part of my back (right behind my arms), a couple on my hips, on my butt, on each side of my crotch, some on my knees. Basically I grew too fast too young and it happened. They're "normal" stretch marks mostly, so I can live with them, but I'm super self conscious about having them all over as a guy, and I do have to work on that even today. You, in comparison, mostly have scars in one place: your face (and like someone else said, women love scars).
I never had problem with ladies due to my stretch marks, I never had problem getting laid due do them. I'm the one who feels bad about them sometimes, but I still enjoy living, going out and so on.
Don't beat yourself too much about scars until something comes out, it's a part of life: they're not ugly, they're not beautiful or anything, they're neutral: it's just something that happened at some point in your life, it didn't change you at all nor what you can do.
TLDR: be the same guy you were before you got them, and just live your life while waiting for something to come out.
@ScarlessfutureI know scarcure can sometimes be depressing and negative, but some people feel extremely bad about their skin issues, to the point where it affects their everyday mood, try not to make this escalate too much, it's not worth it honestly (although I understand your sentiment).
I appreciate what you're trying to do here .... but for me i have nothing left ..... am depressed all the time because of these marks on my face .... am 31 .... yeah i do have some structure in my life as i am an accounting student ... however i still can't shake off this feeling ... i've been let down by ones closet to me .... look you seem like an intelligent person .... and of course this is guess work ... but in your opinion when do you think complete regeneration will occur ? ...
3 hours ago, lehran said:I think I told you in the past, but I have some stretch marks on my shoulders (a couple), behind the upper part of my back (right behind my arms), a couple on my hips, on my butt, on each side of my crotch, some on my knees. Basically I grew too fast too young and it happened. They're "normal" stretch marks mostly, so I can live with them, but I'm super self conscious about having them all over as a guy, and I do have to work on that even today. You, in comparison, mostly have scars in one place: your face (and like someone else said, women love scars).
I never had problem with ladies due to my stretch marks, I never had problem getting laid due do them. I'm the one who feels bad about them sometimes, but I still enjoy living, going out and so on.
Don't beat yourself too much about scars until something comes out, it's a part of life: they're not ugly, they're not beautiful or anything, they're neutral: it's just something that happened at some point in your life, it didn't change you at all nor what you can do.
TLDR: be the same guy you were before you got them, and just live your life while waiting for something to come out.
@ScarlessfutureI know scarcure can sometimes be depressing and negative, but some people feel extremely bad about their skin issues, to the point where it affects their everyday mood, try not to make this escalate too much, it's not worth it honestly (although I understand your sentiment).
I get that some people can be super conscious about their scars but there are other threads for that. I come here time to time to read about the latest miracle treatment that promises skin regeneration. I don't feel like reading someone's overwhelming thoughts about some 1 mm scar they have on their buttocks per say.
Unfortunately, nothing has come to fruition since the thread was opened. I have seen severely burned people and others that have lost limbs. I just find it unacceptable that nothing exists out there to help these people recover 100% from their injuries. We have come far where facial, arm and other transplants are possible but the recipients must take thousands of immuno-suppresive drugs which makes the whole exercise worthless once the body rejects the new organ. Skin grafts were a revolution for their time.
I remember as a kid how scientists claimed that with a single injection, people would have new arms. Some people would have really benefited from getting new arteries with this method and many of us would possibly have a few family members still around who left to soon from heart failure.
In my case, I have stretch mark due to sudden teenage growth spurts, lots of scars from several day to day accidents or fighting from when I was a kid, lots of scars from skin diseases such as acne, chicken pox, folliculitis, dermatitis, etc. It doesn't stop me from living though.
The scars I reallycan't stand are the acne facial pits and the tiny slightly raised whitish patches that cover my back and shoulders. They are a reminder of the hell I went through as a teenager dealing with acne.
People were once raving on here about SkinTE. Nobody really knows what happened to this company and why some scientists risked it all to ruin their reputation. Posters mentioned Sunogel, Renovo, FS2, Olx101 and so many others in the past. Now, we have microcoring and Elastogen. I wonder why big pharma doesn't get involved in this with all that humanity knows? They might be creating mutants for all we now in some lab.
1 hour ago, Scarcure said:I appreciate what you're trying to do here .... but for me i have nothing left ..... am depressed all the time because of these marks on my face .... am 31 .... yeah i do have some structure in my life as i am an accounting student ... however i still can't shake off this feeling ... i've been let down by ones closet to me .... look you seem like an intelligent person .... and of course this is guess work ... but in your opinion when do you think complete regeneration will occur ? ...
If even the brightest scientists out there don't know when absolute scarless treatment (meaning 100%) will occur, then I'm afraid I don't either. What I do know is that the next 5 years are going to be incredibly important in that regard, and that, in itself, is a great thing.
Life is unfair: some people are incredibly beautiful AND have perfect skin, others are the opposite. You can either accept that and try to go forward, or you can't and then it's game over, pure and simple. Sorry to be harsh but that's how it works.
8 minutes ago, Scarlessfuture said:I get that some people can be super conscious about their scars but there are other threads for that. I come here time to time to read about the latest miracle treatment that promises skin regeneration. I don't feel like reading someone's overwhelming thoughts about some 1 mm scar they have on their buttocks per say.
Unfortunately, nothing has come to fruition since the thread was opened. I have seen severely burned people and others that have lost limbs. I just find it unacceptable that nothing exists out there to help these people recover 100% from their injuries. We have come far where facial, arm and other transplants are possible but the recipients must take thousands of immuno-suppresive drugs which makes the whole exercise worthless once the body rejects the new organ. Skin grafts were a revolution for their time.
I remember as a kid how scientists claimed that with a single injection, people would have new arms. Some people would have really benefited from getting new arteries with this method and many of us would possibly have a few family members still around who left to soon from heart failure.
In my case, I have stretch mark due to sudden teenage growth spurts, lots of scars from several day to day accidents or fighting from when I was a kid, lots of scars from skin diseases such as acne, chicken pox, folliculitis, dermatitis, etc. It doesn't stop me from living though.
The scars I reallycan't stand are the acne facial pits and the tiny slightly raised whitish patches that cover my back and shoulders. They are a reminder of the hell I went through as a teenager dealing with acne.
People were once raving on here about SkinTE. Nobody really knows what happened to this company and why some scientists risked it all to ruin their reputation. Posters mentioned Sunogel, Renovo, FS2, Olx101 and so many others in the past. Now, we have microcoring and Elastogen. I wonder why big pharma doesn't get involved in this with all that humanity knows? They might be creating mutants for all we now in some lab.
I kept telling people that skinTE was not gonna be a solution at all, as many practicians and surgeons told me so, so it's never been a disappointment at all for me. Same thing for tons of other startups I won't mention because people will go "hey I hoped it would work". You always have to manage your expectations when it comes to this stuff. I also don't believe in micro-coring that much, but I mentioned why in the past (same reasons as skin pessimist tbh), and I'm not gonna dwindle on that either.
The reason why I've been mentioning elastagen so many times in the past is because, in their cases, there are green signals everywhere:
-An acquisition by one of the top pharmaceutical companies in the world for hundreds of millions of dollars: check
-Several of the biggest investors of the cosmetic world behind them: check
-A creator (Dr Tony Weiss) who's known worldwide (and who has associates in Harvard) for his work, who's the de facto leader in synthethic human elastin and tropoelastin research, who was the director of theTissue Engineering and Regenerative Medicine International Society (making him one of the world most advanced scientists in tissue regeneration), a member of the RSC: check
-The fact that several people asked Dr Weiss if his product would finally bring an "end" to stretch marks, and that he said he was very optimistic about it (which means the results he got so far have to be good, or he wouldn't say that)
-And so on, and so on...
And like people said before, we're getting scientific papers at the end of the year, which will demonstrate how good the product is for acne scars and stretch marks, something tons of people are waiting for. Once this thing is out, IF the results are good, then the hype will be immeasurable, and they know it. Imagine how many millions of people would pay to get rid of their stretch marks and acne scars?
Even then I'm managing my expectations, because the bigger the hype, the higher the disappointment if something bad happens...but I'm already a very cautious man when it comes to this (which is why I really didn't get excited about all the other options out there so far), so if it's not what everyone thought it would be, then I'll keep living the way I live right now.
Sometimes it takes a kick up the backside for things to get going, perhaps covid 19 is that? Most inventions and leaps forward in technology are reactionary to something. Some people whohave survivedabad case of covid have beenleft with badly scarred lungs which will only get worseas the years pass. Tissue repair and regeneration is going to be pushed to the forefront by the media. Acne scarring and stretchmarks, even burn scars to a certain extent are considered "meh" as you're not going to die from them. Scarring of internal organs is viewed as much more serious.
1 hour ago, lehran said:If even the brightest scientists out there don't know when absolute scarless treatment (meaning 100%) will occur, then I'm afraid I don't either. What I do know is that the next 5 years are going to be incredibly important in that regard, and that, in itself, is a great thing.
Life is unfair: some people are incredibly beautiful AND have perfect skin, others are the opposite. You can either accept that and try to go forward, or you can't and then it's game over, pure and simple. Sorry to be harsh but that's how it works.
But i did have great features ... that's why i get this sense of depression and loss , also if there would be a 80 to 90 percent improvement ( supposedly ) than surly it would stand to reason a complete regeneration of skin will occur this decade.