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(@didikaxonim)

Posted : 07/06/2020 1:33 pm

On 7/6/2020 at 5:29 AM, Scarlessfuture said:

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This thread has been over 10 years old and like many of you, I suffered from cystic acne during my teens and early adult years. Medication and creams did nothing for me. Accutane cleared lots of it but pimples kept crawling back. I tried several diets and facewashers. In the end, I gave up and now stare at pockmarks in the mirror.

I still get occasional pimples mainly on my back although I do believe that is more of folliculitis. The condition wrecked my skin and left me with scarring to some extent. I would definitely like to get rid of my facial pockmarks one day. Last time I followed the thread, I was in my early teens hoping for solutions to alleviate my scarring woes. I came back to check wether indeed science found the fountain of regeneration.

Anyways, staying on topic here. It seems, scientists have found ways to prevent scarring, but won't release further information to the public. We are likely years away from seeing some over the counter cream promising to eliminate scars. I posted a link to an article above highlighting the current top players working apparently in reducing or eliminating scarring altogether. No mention of microcoring. I am hopeful their technology is legit, so I can put my skin woes behind and boost up my confidence finally. Acne deprived of my youth.

when we live without a scar

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Posted : 07/06/2020 8:29 pm

6 hours ago, Didikaxonim said:

when we live without a scar

Not in my lifetime, that's for sure. That microcoring looks promising though, however it would take lots of dough to remove tiny bits of skin to get results.

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Posted : 07/07/2020 3:43 am

On 6/21/2020 at 12:50 PM, onefatalgoose said:

You can buy sulfur powder online. I hate to make this a nutrition topic in this category of scar healing but it is necessary when trying to defeat scar damage. Cooked broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage and brussel sprouts, kale, callaloo, spinach, asparagus, okra......Along with around a 14 mg intake of sulfur powder.....And i say cooked because it is easier for your body to absorb nutrients from vegetables once they are steamed or boiled. Which is why green smoothies daily have such a positive affect on acne breakouts. Spirlunia and chlorella are amazing additions to your green, sulfur loaded smoothies that if given time......can rid you of acne scarring. And acne. Done it personally and have gotten flawless results.

Unfortunately, such promises fall under the category of too good to be true. Eating a healthy diet and eliminating processed foods may help reduce future inflammation, but existing acne scars are beyond that point. The composition of the existing scar tissue is completely different than it was beforehand. Addressing it in full would take a long time, but the simplistic response is that drinking healthy smoothies is unlikely to alter the composition of preexisting scar tissue. There certainly isn't any compelling scientific evidence to back it up. Furthermore, while eating healthy may help control acne, that solution to reducing acne breakouts isn't bulletproof. Many things contribute to acne. There are plenty of healthy individuals dealing with moderate to severe acne.

As for your results: It's difficult to evaluate your skin improvements without seeing a proper B&A, with acne scars evaluated in sufficient (and similar) conditions. Many people mistakenly refer to PIH/acne marks as scars. That may not be true in this instance, but I don't have enough information to rule it out. If your acne scars did truly improve, there's no guaranteeing that it didn't come from other sources either. Did you microneedle, use a retinoid, or reduce sun exposure?

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Posted : 07/07/2020 7:02 am

10 hours ago, Scarlessfuture said:

Not in my lifetime, that's for sure. That microcoring looks promising though, however it would take lots of dough to remove tiny bits of skin to get results.

what test? that micro coring does not work

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Posted : 07/08/2020 9:40 am

On 5/8/2020 at 8:06 PM, Sniffy said:

Its completely different to Sunogel. Microcoring is a mechanical device that cores out unwanted skin. The tiny holes left behind where the skin was cored out then close up as the surrounding skin contracts inwards and remodels. Bio Mechanical remodeling is the term Cytrellis use. Skin heals without scar if the wound is very small like 0.5mm

Microcoring essentially removes skin without leaving scars so basically its like excision technique but on a very small scale and done so fractionally so healing is much faster. Excision is an existing technique used that can remove scar tissue but obviously it leaves another scar all be it less noticeable. The hope behind Microcoring is that people can remove scar tissue gradually and allow healthy surrounding skin to take over as this skin will stretch also. For too long treatments are so focused on trying to remodel scar tissue with Lasers and such. Microcoring can actually remove scar tissue then allow the skin to remodel without scar.

Microcoring wont be the perfect treatment but hopefully its a very positive step in the right direction and can make a big impact to people's lives.

I'm new to the forum and have been following this thread, from your explanation of this procedure how is it different from microneedling? I thought microneedling also mechanically breaks down scar tissue for regenerated skin to grow in those areas?

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Posted : 07/08/2020 11:42 am

I just want to live in a world where scars are a choice and not a lifetime of regrets.

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Posted : 07/08/2020 2:22 pm

2 hours ago, David4bay said:

I just want to live in a world where scars are a choice and not a lifetime of regrets.

When we live without scar?

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Posted : 07/08/2020 5:13 pm

Yes, where someone can just go to a doc and have it removed in some way for healthy skin to grow back there.

2 hours ago, Didikaxonim said:

When we live without scar?

 

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Posted : 07/08/2020 5:15 pm

I'd settle for substantial improvement at this point

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Posted : 07/08/2020 5:34 pm

Hi new user here!

I have just heard about Elastagen and honestly I am over the moon. I actually did a little dance 😀

I have terrible stretch marks covering most of my body. I especially hate the stretch marks on my arms, of which I have an awful lot,and I try not to wear short sleeved shirts because of it. I notice them every day and it really upsets me. They are very silvery and visible when sunlight (or any kind of light really) shines on them. It also constantlyreminds me of when I gained a lot of weight in a short amount of time. It was not a good time in my life and I am living with the consequences. Also, when I am wearing short sleeves, I always try and keep my arms close to body so as to not show the marks to anyone. I constantly think about them so I try to not wear short sleeves if at all possible. This has started to make me dislike summer more and more as I cant cover them up.

I have read about all the current treatments for stretch marks and I have even tried dermarolling with no success. However, I have no idea how I hadnt heard of Elastagen before today. And I have spent countless hours researching possible treatments.Shouldnt be there more hype about it? It makes me think that it isnt the revolutionary stretch mark treatment its supposed to be.

I have read several of the posts in this thread and a lot of people are saying that Elastagen should provide animprovement of 80-90% forstretch marks and should reduce the depression of the marks considerably. Is that still the case?

Ive also got a couple more questions:

- Any updates on when Elastagen will be available? Will it be releasedin the UK?

- Is it known whether Elastagen works on wide/deep stretch marks?

That last question is important for me as I have several deep and wide stretch marks on my inner thighs.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

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Posted : 07/08/2020 11:47 pm

6 hours ago, BTNS97 said:

Hi new user here!

I have just heard about Elastagen and honestly I am over the moon. I actually did a little dance :D

I have terrible stretch marks covering most of my body. I especially hate the stretch marks on my arms, of which I have an awful lot,  and I try not to wear short sleeved shirts because of it. I notice them every day and it really upsets me. They are very silvery and visible when sunlight (or any kind of light really) shines on them. It also constantly reminds me of when I gained a lot of weight in a short amount of time. It was not a good time in my life and I am living with the consequences. Also, when I am wearing short sleeves, I always try and keep my arms close to body so as to not show the marks to anyone. I constantly think about them so I try to not wear short sleeves if at all possible. This has started to make me dislike summer more and more as I can™t cover them up.

I have read about all the current treatments for stretch marks and I have even tried dermarolling with no success. However, I have no idea how I hadn™t heard of Elastagen before today. And I have spent countless hours researching possible treatments. Shouldn™t be there more hype about it? It makes me think that it isn™t the revolutionary stretch mark treatment it™s supposed to be.

I have read several of the posts in this thread and a lot of people are saying that Elastagen should provide an improvement of 80-90% for stretch marks and should reduce the depression of the marks considerably. Is that still the case?

I™ve also got a couple more questions:

- Any updates on when Elastagen will be available? Will it be released in the UK?

- Is it known whether Elastagen works on wide/deep stretch marks?

That last question is important for me as I have several deep and wide stretch marks on my inner thighs.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

The reason there isn't more hype is that while the innovation has successfully reached trial, it normally takes a long time before something in that phase is approved and hits the market. And while I've heard some rumblings of good results, a peer-reviewed study of the final results hasn't been released yet from what I can tell. It's possible that the 80-90% improvement people are seeking is entirely unrealistic. Even if it is, there's no telling what the price will be. I'm cautiously optimistic

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Posted : 07/09/2020 4:43 am

4 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:

The reason there isn't more hype is that while the innovation has successfully reached trial, it normally takes a long time before something in that phase is approved and hits the market. And while I've heard some rumblings of good results, a peer-reviewed study of the final results hasn't been released yet from what I can tell. It's possible that the 80-90% improvement people are seeking is entirely unrealistic. Even if it is, there's no telling what the price will be. I'm cautiously optimistic

have been reading about this since 2015. Back then, they were a startup at some australian university. Eventually, they got bought by Allergan, a pharmaceutical giant. I wouldn't write them off just yet. Even a 50% improvement is something.

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Posted : 07/09/2020 8:02 pm

I decided to share some thoughts. In recent years, more and more companies have appeared that work in the direction of scarless healing. Moreover, they are making progress; twenty years ago there wasnt much. Today, although far from ideal, it is possible to regenerate epidermis and dermis layers of the skin (according to the data provided by companies like Renovacare, Avita medical and PolarityTE). Even if this data turns out to be a lie - the trend really exists: more and more interest and various new solutions to fight scars and burns appear on the market (hydrogels, skin scaffolds, microcoring, tropielastin, 3d bioprinting and much more). I cant say with certainty that a revolution in treatment will occur tomorrow, but there is good potential for the development of these technologies. I repeat once again: at the beginning of the century there were not many technologies that exist today. Cheer up

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Posted : 07/10/2020 6:48 am

9 hours ago, gantz said:

I decided to share some thoughts. In recent years, more and more companies have appeared that work in the direction of scarless healing. Moreover, they are making progress; twenty years ago there wasnt much. Today, although far from ideal, it is possible to regenerate epidermis and dermis layers of the skin (according to the data provided by companies like Renovacare, Avita medical and PolarityTE). Even if this data turns out to be a lie - the trend really exists: more and more interest and various new solutions to fight scars and burns appear on the market (hydrogels, skin scaffolds, microcoring, tropielastin, 3d bioprinting and much more). I cant say with certainty that a revolution in treatment will occur tomorrow, but there is good potential for the development of these technologies. I repeat once again: at the beginning of the century there were not many technologies that exist today. Cheer up

It's because younger generations are becoming increasingly aware of their body and it's flaws. They want topresent perfect glowing skinto the public while being slim. Acne prone skin, scars anda little fat arefrowned upon.

Twenty years ago was the beginning of a trend where young girls were asked by society to reach unattainable levels of beauty. I would even say, cosmetic surgery did not help at all. Initially, this new medical discipline was intended to restore skin integrity and facial features formany soldiers disfigured in wars. Theintentions were to extend it furtherto burn victims and others. Unfortunately, some people made a killing promising generations that body enhancements were necessary in order to get a husband, land a job, etc.

Men were also targeted. Theyhad tobe muscular, fit and scarless. These ideals were often unattainable and with the emergence of social media, the movement has now reached questionablelevels where people actually modify and enhance pictures to circumvent reality.

In the late 90s, parents wereconcerned about their kid's oversexualization at a young age, however nothing was really doneto prevent all this. The Industrykept promoting the same ideas until nobody cared no more.

Today, these kids are now parents of their own. They tend to embrace the sameideals and pass it on to their own children.Younger girls wear extremely revealing clothing and have immense pressure to cover up stretchmarks, scars, pimples, etc. Some womenhave been blessed naturally tolook extremely attractive.This image is promoted everywhere. Guys must look lean and fit with naturally glowing skin.

Some campaigns have emerged to deal with the negative impacts of beauty trends targeting young adults and teens. However, how many of us have been hardwired to believe that we are not normal. Scars are nature's way of repairing our bodies following injury. We must be vigilant because many researchers will make many claims to seek fame and glory.

I personally do believe that the medical community has the knowledge to regenerate lost human limbs and grow healthy organs in labs.However, the integrity of these is unstable. Most of the newly bio-engineered organs fail within months. Therefore, they are prudent until they manage to create a stable lifelongfunctioning muscle.

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Posted : 07/10/2020 3:08 pm

On 7/2/2020 at 8:45 PM, gantz said:

I think that in any case scar tissue will have to be removed before

I have something similar to this , notice the eyelid margin where it has a dent in it ( the red part of the margin ) , can there be anything other than an incision when scarless healing happens within a few years ?.

 

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Posted : 07/12/2020 6:32 am

when will we get rid of the scar? When will this day come

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Posted : 07/12/2020 6:34 am

1 minute ago, Didikaxonim said:

when will we get rid of the scar? When will this day come

Enjoy your life bro, so when it comes you'll enjoy it more. :)

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Posted : 07/13/2020 8:51 am

I read about the acne vaccine. Does this vaccine really come out? Does anyone know about it? But this is information from 2018. Why are they silent now?

On 7/12/2020 at 4:34 PM, David4bay said:

Enjoy your life bro, so when it comes you'll enjoy it more. :)

I'm a girl. Scars don't allow me to enjoy this life. When will something be created that removes scars?

On 7/12/2020 at 4:34 PM, David4bay said:

Enjoy your life bro, so when it comes you'll enjoy it more. :)

I'm a girl. Scars don't allow me to enjoy this life. When will something be created that removes scars?

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Posted : 07/13/2020 12:37 pm

3 hours ago, Didikaxonim said:

I read about the acne vaccine. Does this vaccine really come out? Does anyone know about it? But this is information from 2018. Why are they silent now?

I'm a girl. Scars don't allow me to enjoy this life. When will something be created that removes scars?

I'm a girl. Scars don't allow me to enjoy this life. When will something be created that removes scars?

I'll tell you the mindset I have now. Your scars may disturb you but it can't change who you are. This scar remedy may honestly never come soon, from what ive read this thread is 12 years old. It will someday as I'm optimistic if the fire keeps burning, but is it worth closing off on your life till then?

 

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Posted : 07/13/2020 3:26 pm

2 hours ago, David4bay said:

I'll tell you the mindset I have now. Your scars may disturb you but it can't change who you are. This scar remedy may honestly never come soon, from what ive read this thread is 12 years old. It will someday as I'm optimistic if the fire keeps burning, but is it worth closing off on your life till then?

 

but medicine is evolving right now.micro coring doesnt help scars?

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Posted : 07/14/2020 5:37 am

14 hours ago, Didikaxonim said:

but medicine is evolving right now.micro coring doesnt help scars?

1. Don't put all hope on that procedure so you don't get disappointed.

2. Don't let your self-esteem plummet because of your scars, because even if you can reduce your scars by 80% if you don't have good self-esteem you'll never feel okay.

Stay healthy and stay safe.

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Posted : 07/14/2020 7:24 pm

As far as tropoelastin goes, does anyone know how it would be inserted into the dermis? I'm guessing it would be some sort of injectable. There are still lots of questions I have around it. I don't know if it would be a standalone treatment or would accompany subcision. Price is another big one.

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Posted : 07/15/2020 6:04 am

On 7/13/2020 at 11:26 PM, Didikaxonim said:

but medicine is evolving right now.micro coring doesnt help scars?

micro coring looks like most promising procedure for scars like stretch marks that are not so big and able to be extracted andtighten the skin around.

 

the main question is whether it is possible not only to reduce the amount of scar tissue, but to bring the skin to its initial state. in any case, if it hits the market, then we will at least get a procedure that can significantly reduce scars, of which I am almost completely sure

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Posted : 07/15/2020 6:46 am

41 minutes ago, gantz said:

micro coring looks like most promising procedure for scars like stretch marks that are not so big and able to be extracted andtighten the skin around.

 

the main question is whether it is possible not only to reduce the amount of scar tissue, but to bring the skin to its initial state. in any case, if it hits the market, then we will at least get a procedure that can significantly reduce scars, of which I am almost completely sure

Does micro coring just improve scarring like a laser? Cant remove a scar?

11 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:

As far as tropoelastin goes, does anyone know how it would be inserted into the dermis? I'm guessing it would be some sort of injectable. There are still lots of questions I have around it. I don't know if it would be a standalone treatment or would accompany subcision. Price is another big one.

When will tripoelastine be released?

43 minutes ago, gantz said:
On 7/14/2020 at 3:37 PM, David4bay said:

1. Don't put all hope on that procedure so you don't get disappointed.

2. Don't let your self-esteem plummet because of your scars, because even if you can reduce your scars by 80% if you don't have good self-esteem you'll never feel okay.

Stay healthy and stay safe.

what do you mean by that?

 

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Posted : 07/15/2020 8:26 am

Didikaxonim, just motivating you that's all. After reading the patent of Microcoring I think it's going to work on scars as they listed scarring from acne and trauma to its uses.

 

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