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Hi new user here!
I have just heard about Elastagen and honestly I am over the moon. I actually did a little dance 😀
I have terrible stretch marks covering most of my body. I especially hate the stretch marks on my arms, of which I have an awful lot,and I try not to wear short sleeved shirts because of it. I notice them every day and it really upsets me. They are very silvery and visible when sunlight (or any kind of light really) shines on them. It also constantlyreminds me of when I gained a lot of weight in a short amount of time. It was not a good time in my life and I am living with the consequences. Also, when I am wearing short sleeves, I always try and keep my arms close to body so as to not show the marks to anyone. I constantly think about them so I try to not wear short sleeves if at all possible. This has started to make me dislike summer more and more as I cant cover them up.
I have read about all the current treatments for stretch marks and I have even tried dermarolling with no success. However, I have no idea how I hadnt heard of Elastagen before today. And I have spent countless hours researching possible treatments.Shouldnt be there more hype about it? It makes me think that it isnt the revolutionary stretch mark treatment its supposed to be.
I have read several of the posts in this thread and a lot of people are saying that Elastagen should provide animprovement of 80-90% forstretch marks and should reduce the depression of the marks considerably. Is that still the case?
Ive also got a couple more questions:
- Any updates on when Elastagen will be available? Will it be releasedin the UK?
- Is it known whether Elastagen works on wide/deep stretch marks?
That last question is important for me as I have several deep and wide stretch marks on my inner thighs.
Thanks in advance.
6 hours ago, BTNS97 said:Hi new user here!
I have just heard about Elastagen and honestly I am over the moon. I actually did a little dance
I have terrible stretch marks covering most of my body. I especially hate the stretch marks on my arms, of which I have an awful lot, and I try not to wear short sleeved shirts because of it. I notice them every day and it really upsets me. They are very silvery and visible when sunlight (or any kind of light really) shines on them. It also constantly reminds me of when I gained a lot of weight in a short amount of time. It was not a good time in my life and I am living with the consequences. Also, when I am wearing short sleeves, I always try and keep my arms close to body so as to not show the marks to anyone. I constantly think about them so I try to not wear short sleeves if at all possible. This has started to make me dislike summer more and more as I can™t cover them up.
I have read about all the current treatments for stretch marks and I have even tried dermarolling with no success. However, I have no idea how I hadn™t heard of Elastagen before today. And I have spent countless hours researching possible treatments. Shouldn™t be there more hype about it? It makes me think that it isn™t the revolutionary stretch mark treatment it™s supposed to be.
I have read several of the posts in this thread and a lot of people are saying that Elastagen should provide an improvement of 80-90% for stretch marks and should reduce the depression of the marks considerably. Is that still the case?
I™ve also got a couple more questions:
- Any updates on when Elastagen will be available? Will it be released in the UK?
- Is it known whether Elastagen works on wide/deep stretch marks?
That last question is important for me as I have several deep and wide stretch marks on my inner thighs.
Thanks in advance.
The reason there isn't more hype is that while the innovation has successfully reached trial, it normally takes a long time before something in that phase is approved and hits the market. And while I've heard some rumblings of good results, a peer-reviewed study of the final results hasn't been released yet from what I can tell. It's possible that the 80-90% improvement people are seeking is entirely unrealistic. Even if it is, there's no telling what the price will be. I'm cautiously optimistic
4 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:The reason there isn't more hype is that while the innovation has successfully reached trial, it normally takes a long time before something in that phase is approved and hits the market. And while I've heard some rumblings of good results, a peer-reviewed study of the final results hasn't been released yet from what I can tell. It's possible that the 80-90% improvement people are seeking is entirely unrealistic. Even if it is, there's no telling what the price will be. I'm cautiously optimistic
have been reading about this since 2015. Back then, they were a startup at some australian university. Eventually, they got bought by Allergan, a pharmaceutical giant. I wouldn't write them off just yet. Even a 50% improvement is something.
I decided to share some thoughts. In recent years, more and more companies have appeared that work in the direction of scarless healing. Moreover, they are making progress; twenty years ago there wasnt much. Today, although far from ideal, it is possible to regenerate epidermis and dermis layers of the skin (according to the data provided by companies like Renovacare, Avita medical and PolarityTE). Even if this data turns out to be a lie - the trend really exists: more and more interest and various new solutions to fight scars and burns appear on the market (hydrogels, skin scaffolds, microcoring, tropielastin, 3d bioprinting and much more). I cant say with certainty that a revolution in treatment will occur tomorrow, but there is good potential for the development of these technologies. I repeat once again: at the beginning of the century there were not many technologies that exist today. Cheer up
9 hours ago, gantz said:I decided to share some thoughts. In recent years, more and more companies have appeared that work in the direction of scarless healing. Moreover, they are making progress; twenty years ago there wasnt much. Today, although far from ideal, it is possible to regenerate epidermis and dermis layers of the skin (according to the data provided by companies like Renovacare, Avita medical and PolarityTE). Even if this data turns out to be a lie - the trend really exists: more and more interest and various new solutions to fight scars and burns appear on the market (hydrogels, skin scaffolds, microcoring, tropielastin, 3d bioprinting and much more). I cant say with certainty that a revolution in treatment will occur tomorrow, but there is good potential for the development of these technologies. I repeat once again: at the beginning of the century there were not many technologies that exist today. Cheer up
It's because younger generations are becoming increasingly aware of their body and it's flaws. They want topresent perfect glowing skinto the public while being slim. Acne prone skin, scars anda little fat arefrowned upon.
Twenty years ago was the beginning of a trend where young girls were asked by society to reach unattainable levels of beauty. I would even say, cosmetic surgery did not help at all. Initially, this new medical discipline was intended to restore skin integrity and facial features formany soldiers disfigured in wars. Theintentions were to extend it furtherto burn victims and others. Unfortunately, some people made a killing promising generations that body enhancements were necessary in order to get a husband, land a job, etc.
Men were also targeted. Theyhad tobe muscular, fit and scarless. These ideals were often unattainable and with the emergence of social media, the movement has now reached questionablelevels where people actually modify and enhance pictures to circumvent reality.
In the late 90s, parents wereconcerned about their kid's oversexualization at a young age, however nothing was really doneto prevent all this. The Industrykept promoting the same ideas until nobody cared no more.
Today, these kids are now parents of their own. They tend to embrace the sameideals and pass it on to their own children.Younger girls wear extremely revealing clothing and have immense pressure to cover up stretchmarks, scars, pimples, etc. Some womenhave been blessed naturally tolook extremely attractive.This image is promoted everywhere. Guys must look lean and fit with naturally glowing skin.
Some campaigns have emerged to deal with the negative impacts of beauty trends targeting young adults and teens. However, how many of us have been hardwired to believe that we are not normal. Scars are nature's way of repairing our bodies following injury. We must be vigilant because many researchers will make many claims to seek fame and glory.
I personally do believe that the medical community has the knowledge to regenerate lost human limbs and grow healthy organs in labs.However, the integrity of these is unstable. Most of the newly bio-engineered organs fail within months. Therefore, they are prudent until they manage to create a stable lifelongfunctioning muscle.
On 7/2/2020 at 8:45 PM, gantz said:I think that in any case scar tissue will have to be removed before
I have something similar to this , notice the eyelid margin where it has a dent in it ( the red part of the margin ) , can there be anything other than an incision when scarless healing happens within a few years ?.
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I read about the acne vaccine. Does this vaccine really come out? Does anyone know about it? But this is information from 2018. Why are they silent now?
On 7/12/2020 at 4:34 PM, David4bay said:Enjoy your life bro, so when it comes you'll enjoy it more.
I'm a girl. Scars don't allow me to enjoy this life. When will something be created that removes scars?
On 7/12/2020 at 4:34 PM, David4bay said:Enjoy your life bro, so when it comes you'll enjoy it more.
I'm a girl. Scars don't allow me to enjoy this life. When will something be created that removes scars?
3 hours ago, Didikaxonim said:I read about the acne vaccine. Does this vaccine really come out? Does anyone know about it? But this is information from 2018. Why are they silent now?
I'm a girl. Scars don't allow me to enjoy this life. When will something be created that removes scars?
I'm a girl. Scars don't allow me to enjoy this life. When will something be created that removes scars?
I'll tell you the mindset I have now. Your scars may disturb you but it can't change who you are. This scar remedy may honestly never come soon, from what ive read this thread is 12 years old. It will someday as I'm optimistic if the fire keeps burning, but is it worth closing off on your life till then?
2 hours ago, David4bay said:I'll tell you the mindset I have now. Your scars may disturb you but it can't change who you are. This scar remedy may honestly never come soon, from what ive read this thread is 12 years old. It will someday as I'm optimistic if the fire keeps burning, but is it worth closing off on your life till then?
but medicine is evolving right now.micro coring doesnt help scars?
14 hours ago, Didikaxonim said:but medicine is evolving right now.micro coring doesnt help scars?
1. Don't put all hope on that procedure so you don't get disappointed.
2. Don't let your self-esteem plummet because of your scars, because even if you can reduce your scars by 80% if you don't have good self-esteem you'll never feel okay.
Stay healthy and stay safe.
As far as tropoelastin goes, does anyone know how it would be inserted into the dermis? I'm guessing it would be some sort of injectable. There are still lots of questions I have around it. I don't know if it would be a standalone treatment or would accompany subcision. Price is another big one.
On 7/13/2020 at 11:26 PM, Didikaxonim said:but medicine is evolving right now.micro coring doesnt help scars?
micro coring looks like most promising procedure for scars like stretch marks that are not so big and able to be extracted andtighten the skin around.
the main question is whether it is possible not only to reduce the amount of scar tissue, but to bring the skin to its initial state. in any case, if it hits the market, then we will at least get a procedure that can significantly reduce scars, of which I am almost completely sure
41 minutes ago, gantz said:micro coring looks like most promising procedure for scars like stretch marks that are not so big and able to be extracted andtighten the skin around.
the main question is whether it is possible not only to reduce the amount of scar tissue, but to bring the skin to its initial state. in any case, if it hits the market, then we will at least get a procedure that can significantly reduce scars, of which I am almost completely sure
Does micro coring just improve scarring like a laser? Cant remove a scar?
11 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:As far as tropoelastin goes, does anyone know how it would be inserted into the dermis? I'm guessing it would be some sort of injectable. There are still lots of questions I have around it. I don't know if it would be a standalone treatment or would accompany subcision. Price is another big one.
When will tripoelastine be released?
43 minutes ago, gantz said:On 7/14/2020 at 3:37 PM, David4bay said:1. Don't put all hope on that procedure so you don't get disappointed.
2. Don't let your self-esteem plummet because of your scars, because even if you can reduce your scars by 80% if you don't have good self-esteem you'll never feel okay.
Stay healthy and stay safe.
what do you mean by that?
2 hours ago, Didikaxonim said:Does micro coring just improve scarring like a laser? Cant remove a scar?
When will tripoelastine be released?
micro coring extracts columns of tissue, no matter what, healthy or scarred. but these columns are small (0.5 mm diameter), since only in this case it is possible to get rid of scar tissue without forming a new one in the same place. lasers do not extract tissue (the laser rather leaves a burn, which causes the skin to produce collagen and look rejuvenated),this is the main difference and advantage of micro coring. I cant guarantee that you can get rid of scars, nobody knows this, but micro coring as a concept, unlike using a laser, is ideal for treating scars because it doesnt rejuvenate, does not heal or stmth else like that. it simply removes tissue, and the holes from the extracted tissue contractwithout scarring.
also, amount of tissue that u can extract within one procedure is about 5-7% of treated area. So significant results may occur after maybe 10+ iterations.
6 hours ago, gantz said:micro coring extracts columns of tissue, no matter what, healthy or scarred. but these columns are small (0.5 mm diameter), since only in this case it is possible to get rid of scar tissue without forming a new one in the same place. lasers do not extract tissue (the laser rather leaves a burn, which causes the skin to produce collagen and look rejuvenated),this is the main difference and advantage of micro coring. I cant guarantee that you can get rid of scars, nobody knows this, but micro coring as a concept, unlike using a laser, is ideal for treating scars because it doesnt rejuvenate, does not heal or stmth else like that. it simply removes tissue, and the holes from the extracted tissue contractwithout scarring.
also, amount of tissue that u can extract within one procedure is about 5-7% of treated area. So significant results may occur after maybe 10+ iterations.
The reason I'm not very excited by that potential treatment is that it would be difficult to treat large scars. If micro coring is capable of treating such scars, it would likely take multiple sessions. At that point, we aren't talking about something that is cheaper or more convenient than subcision or TCA cross, although it may work better. I'm unsure micro coring would work on large rolling scars in particular, since the scar tissue is tethered to the dermis. Tropoelastin is more promising for such scars. Everyone has different priorities. For me, fixing my rolling scars comes first. Rolling scars destroy facial volume and create wide indents that are noticeable from decent ranges. I have prominent cheekbones, yet they're ruined by the presence of several rolling scars. It's extremely noticeable since the skin on the cheekbone goes outwards, whereas the tethered rolling scar suddenly contracts inwards. I have plenty of ice pick scars, but they don't have as noticeable of an impact on my overall facial volume. Boxcar scars would be my second priority after rolling scars.
14 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:The reason I'm not very excited by that potential treatment is that it would be difficult to treat large scars. If micro coring is capable of treating such scars, it would likely take multiple sessions. At that point, we aren't talking about something that is cheaper or more convenient than subcision or TCA cross, although it may work better. I'm unsure micro coring would work on large rolling scars in particular, since the scar tissue is tethered to the dermis. Tropoelastin is more promising for such scars. Everyone has different priorities. For me, fixing my rolling scars comes first. Rolling scars destroy facial volume and create wide indents that are noticeable from decent ranges. I have prominent cheekbones, yet they're ruined by the presence of several rolling scars. It's extremely noticeable since the skin on the cheekbone goes outwards, whereas the tethered rolling scar suddenly contracts inwards. I have plenty of ice pick scars, but they don't have as noticeable of an impact on my overall facial volume. Boxcar scars would be my second priority after rolling scars.
but it's not clear if tripoelastin will hit the market, right? Should tripoelastine be made all the time like filler?its bad
20 hours ago, gantz said:micro coring extracts columns of tissue, no matter what, healthy or scarred. but these columns are small (0.5 mm diameter), since only in this case it is possible to get rid of scar tissue without forming a new one in the same place. lasers do not extract tissue (the laser rather leaves a burn, which causes the skin to produce collagen and look rejuvenated),this is the main difference and advantage of micro coring. I cant guarantee that you can get rid of scars, nobody knows this, but micro coring as a concept, unlike using a laser, is ideal for treating scars because it doesnt rejuvenate, does not heal or stmth else like that. it simply removes tissue, and the holes from the extracted tissue contractwithout scarring.
also, amount of tissue that u can extract within one procedure is about 5-7% of treated area. So significant results may occur after maybe 10+ iterations.
I would like the micro coring to work well with the scar well. and removed
16 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:The reason I'm not very excited by that potential treatment is that it would be difficult to treat large scars. If micro coring is capable of treating such scars, it would likely take multiple sessions. At that point, we aren't talking about something that is cheaper or more convenient than subcision or TCA cross, although it may work better. I'm unsure micro coring would work on large rolling scars in particular, since the scar tissue is tethered to the dermis. Tropoelastin is more promising for such scars. Everyone has different priorities. For me, fixing my rolling scars comes first. Rolling scars destroy facial volume and create wide indents that are noticeable from decent ranges. I have prominent cheekbones, yet they're ruined by the presence of several rolling scars. It's extremely noticeable since the skin on the cheekbone goes outwards, whereas the tethered rolling scar suddenly contracts inwards. I have plenty of ice pick scars, but they don't have as noticeable of an impact on my overall facial volume. Boxcar scars would be my second priority after rolling scars.
Microcoring is definitely capable of removing those scars couse it goes all the way through the skin it even hits the fat layer but it doesnt damage it couse the punctures are so small. Id say microcoring will be the first good treatment ever, the only downside is you will need way more treatments couse it can only remove 5-8% of skin once 3 months
4 hours ago, AlexZ77 said:Microcoring is definitely capable of removing those scars couse it goes all the way through the skin it even hits the fat layer but it doesnt damage it couse the punctures are so small. Id say microcoring will be the first good treatment ever, the only downside is you will need way more treatments couse it can only remove 5-8% of skin once 3 months
The problem with treating large, wide scars is where do you even start? If you started in the middle of a rolling scar, the punctured area would probably attach to the tethered scar tissue around it. If you start on the edge, it may work, or maybe it would attach back to the tethered skin tissue in the middle. I'm not an expert on micro coring by any stretch, so I may be completely wrong. I hope I am. It does seem like a treatment that requires many sessions to completely treat large scars. The only way it would be worth it to me is it the result are great and the price is somewhat manageable.
22 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:The problem with treating large, wide scars is where do you even start? If you started in the middle of a rolling scar, the punctured area would probably attach to the tethered scar tissue around it. If you start on the edge, it may work, or maybe it would attach back to the tethered skin tissue in the middle. I'm not an expert on micro coring by any stretch, so I may be completely wrong. I hope I am. It does seem like a treatment that requires many sessions to completely treat large scars. The only way it would be worth it to me is it the result are great and the price is somewhat manageable.
Have you had subcision done or micro fat grafting?
My experience with rolling scars I smashed it with subcision, 3mm medical grade needling and lasting micro fat grafts. Those treatments did the heavy lifting and now I have really good contour without obvious indentations. Whats left is some textural issues which Im hopong Microcoring can resolve.
As AlexZ77 said Microcoring should be able to core deep enough where that tissue is tethered. If not revert back to the former treatments first then finish with Microcoring.