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Posted : 05/08/2020 10:49 am

1 hour ago, Valkyros said:

Some good news about elastagen:

 

I asked a famous dermatologist in Washington (Harvard degree + John Hopkins hospital degree) about elastagen, since she had the chance to see the product not too long ago, and she told me that it's going to be a real game changer for stretch marks (she didn't mention body scars and hypertrophoc scars though). I was linked this from her secretary (check the attached file)

So bottomline, it's nothing new, but this is another element that kinda validates the theory that this is going to be great for stretch marks.

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when and from which site this image was taken

3 minutes ago, Sniffy said:

This Dr in this video who has been using Microcoring as part of trials for skin tightening even says there are a lot of variables and things they are learning about Microcoring. Also this was the line I got from Cytrellis when they said recently they are still developing Microcoring.

 

Microcoring removes skin so it will help scars absolutely. The only thing we dont know is how well it will perform as in how many treatments will you need to remove scars. Removing Wrinkles/excess skin will yield results faster than scars yes which makes it more appealing for those aesthetics. It could be a long process for treating scars but it will be worth it to gradually remove the undesired scar tissue,  both patience and accuracy will be essential. Microcoring was always designed towards skin tightening intially hence you will hear more commentary around that but now its being trialled for scars. Said to be released late 2020 or early 2021

Exciting times ahead!!

 

 

 

I wish you knew how much you made me happy. I also want to get rid of acne scars. I also agree to endure any pain. If it helps acne scars

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Posted : 05/08/2020 11:14 am

Sunogel is always a hot topic for discussion on this board and rightly so as it promises Perfect skin regeneration. We dont know where they are at exactly right nowas they have gone quiet recently. Could be a number of reasons why they are keeping quiet. Hopefully something surfaces from them this year. If anything they would have to be very close to the finish line for Approval of their lead product.

 

Gemstone Bio is very similar to Sunogel as they both have been working on Hydrogels for many years to promote scarless skin regeneration. Check out this article from last September.

https://dbknews.com/2019/09/11/umd-invest-gemstone-biotech-usm/

 

 

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Posted : 05/08/2020 11:25 am

10 minutes ago, Sniffy said:

Sunogel is always a hot topic for discussion on this board and rightly so as it promises Perfect skin regeneration. We dont know where they are at exactly right nowas they have gone quiet recently. Could be a number of reasons why they are keeping quiet. Hopefully something surfaces from them this year. If anything they would have to be very close to the finish line for Approval of their lead product.

 

Gemstone Bio is very similar to Sunogel as they both have been working on Hydrogels for many years to promote scarless skin regeneration. Check out this article from last September.

https://dbknews.com/2019/09/11/umd-invest-gemstone-biotech-usm/

 

 

i want the acne scar remedy tool to hit the market sooner

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Posted : 05/08/2020 12:02 pm

2 minutes ago, Didikaxonim said:

i want the acne scar remedy tool to hit the market sooner

Well there are definitely some Treatment optionson the horizon to look forward to but unfortunately a worldwide Pandemic is only creating more hurdles for Bio Companies to jump over as if the FDA wasnt enough.

Scar sufferers want Scarless healing nothing less, thats the demand in the market right nowafter recent decades of inferior Products that led to inferior results and unhappy people whodont like putting themselves through these once hyped up treatments to find they've only wasted money and time. Thisis well understood by these Researchand Development Bio Startups and you will see the samenarrative throughout that there is an unmet need in the wound healing Market. I really hope this decade delivers for everyone.

 

https://biobuzz.io/baltimore-biotech-gemstone-biotherapeutics-transformes-wound-care-market/

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Posted : 05/08/2020 12:34 pm

31 minutes ago, Sniffy said:

Well there are definitely some Treatment optionson the horizon to look forward to but unfortunately a worldwide Pandemic is only creating more hurdles for Bio Companies to jump over as if the FDA wasnt enough.

Scar sufferers want Scarless healing nothing less, thats the demand in the market right nowafter recent decades of inferior Products that led to inferior results and unhappy people whodont like putting themselves through these once hyped up treatments to find they've only wasted money and time. Thisis well understood by these Researchand Development Bio Startups and you will see the samenarrative throughout that there is an unmet need in the wound healing Market. I really hope this decade delivers for everyone.

 

https://biobuzz.io/baltimore-biotech-gemstone-biotherapeutics-transformes-wound-care-market/

but I didn't understand one thing.micro coring doesn't regenerate the skin like sunogel then how does new skin appear?

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Posted : 05/08/2020 12:51 pm

3 hours ago, Valkyros said:

Some good news about elastagen:

 

I asked a famous dermatologist in Washington (Harvard degree + John Hopkins hospital degree) about elastagen, since she had the chance to see the product not too long ago, and she told me that it's going to be a real game changer for stretch marks (she didn't mention body scars and hypertrophoc scars though). I was linked this from her secretary (check the attached file)

So bottomline, it's nothing new, but this is another element that kinda validates the theory that this is going to be great for stretch marks.

skkaleaq.png

it says in 2 years and posted in 2019. Maybe it will be available in 2021. 

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Posted : 05/08/2020 2:06 pm

1 hour ago, Didikaxonim said:

but I didn't understand one thing.micro coring doesn't regenerate the skin like sunogel then how does new skin appear?

Its completely different to Sunogel. Microcoring is a mechanical device that cores out unwanted skin. The tiny holes left behind where the skin was cored out then close up as the surrounding skin contracts inwards and remodels. Bio Mechanical remodeling is the term Cytrellis use. Skin heals without scar if the wound is very small like 0.5mm

Microcoring essentially removes skin without leaving scars so basically its like excision technique but on a very small scale and done so fractionally so healing is much faster. Excision is an existing technique used that can remove scar tissue but obviously it leaves another scar all be it less noticeable. The hope behind Microcoring is that people can remove scar tissue gradually and allow healthy surrounding skin to take over as this skin will stretch also. For too long treatments are so focused on trying to remodel scar tissue with Lasers and such. Microcoring can actually remove scar tissue then allow the skin to remodel without scar.

Microcoring wont be the perfect treatment but hopefully its a very positive step in the right direction and can make a big impact to people's lives.

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Posted : 05/08/2020 2:21 pm

14 minutes ago, Sniffy said:

Its completely different to Sunogel. Microcoring is a mechanical device that cores out unwanted skin. The tiny holes left behind where the skin was cored out then close up as the surrounding skin contracts inwards and remodels. Bio Mechanical remodeling is the term Cytrellis use. Skin heals without scar if the wound is very small like 0.5mm

Microcoring essentially removes skin without leaving scars so basically its like excision technique but on a very small scale and done so fractionally so healing is much faster. Excision is an existing technique used that can remove scar tissue but obviously it leaves another scar all be it less noticeable. The hope behind Microcoring is that people can remove scar tissue gradually and allow healthy surrounding skin to take over as this skin will stretch also. For too long treatments are so focused on trying to remodel scar tissue with Lasers and such. Microcoring can actually remove scar tissue then allow the skin to remodel without scar.

Microcoring wont be the perfect treatment but hopefully its a very positive step in the right direction and can make a big impact to people's lives.

if the atrophic scar is deep and large, does micro-coring help?

1 hour ago, ecek said:

it says in 2 years and posted in 2019. Maybe it will be available in 2021.

What is this simple hyaluronic injection? I have injected acne scars like this, but he did not get the scar.

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Posted : 05/08/2020 4:21 pm

3 hours ago, ecek said:

it says in 2 years and posted in 2019. Maybe it will be available in 2021.

She was talking about a filler that Allergan is going to release in the US: Volite. Not made to help acne scars and it's already available over seas I believe.

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Posted : 05/08/2020 10:51 pm

8 hours ago, Didikaxonim said:

if the atrophic scar is deep and large, does micro-coring help?

 

We dont yet know all the Intricacies for examplewhat types of scars respond best. Most people have a mixture of Boxcar, Ice Pick and Rolling acne scars. Some scars are anchored down by scar tissue at a shallow depth and others much deeper. They said it removes full thickness tissue which is promising. We have to wait till trials finish to see what happens. Im sure there islots of tweaks and adjustments being made to their Novel device as they progress. They said the preliminary results were excellent for treating scars but the catch is it will likely take many treatments.

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Posted : 05/09/2020 12:05 am

1 hour ago, Sniffy said:

 

We dont yet know all the Intricacies for examplewhat types of scars respond best. Most people have a mixture of Boxcar, Ice Pick and Rolling acne scars. Some scars are anchored down by scar tissue at a shallow depth and others much deeper. They said it removes full thickness tissue which is promising. We have to wait till trials finish to see what happens. Im sure there islots of tweaks and adjustments being made to their Novel device as they progress. They said the preliminary results were excellent for treating scars but the catch is it will likely take many treatments.

Where do you get so much information? I want to read too. I think micro coring will be on the market in November or December this year.

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Posted : 05/09/2020 1:00 am

25 minutes ago, Didikaxonim said:

Where do you get so much information? I want to read too. I think micro coring will be on the market in November or December this year.

Most of us source information online or by contacting relevant people.

Fingers crossedits here soon

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Posted : 05/09/2020 4:06 am

3 hours ago, Sniffy said:

Most of us source information online or by contacting relevant people.

Fingers crossedits here soon

dont know what work is being done on micro coring to treat acne scars right now?

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Posted : 05/09/2020 6:11 am

2 hours ago, Didikaxonim said:

dont know what work is being done on micro coring to treat acne scars right now?

Clinical Trials

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Posted : 05/09/2020 12:56 pm

please be active.tell me what good news there is

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Posted : 05/10/2020 1:23 am

19 hours ago, Sniffy said:

Clinical Trials

What do you think? Will micro coring be released at the end of this year or early 2021? Or will they deceive us again and put it up for sale in 2022 or 2023?

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Posted : 05/10/2020 3:39 am

2 hours ago, Didikaxonim said:

What do you think? Will micro coring be released at the end of this year or early 2021? Or will they deceive us again and put it up for sale in 2022 or 2023?

Well yes 2020 was looking like the go but Covid-19 may push it into next year. It could still feature later this year which isnt to far away anyway about 6 months. Im guessing 2021 in the first 6 months because the Virus situation in America is worse than anywhere in the world.

 

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Posted : 05/10/2020 4:26 am

46 minutes ago, Sniffy said:

Well yes 2020 was looking like the go but Covid-19 may push it into next year. It could still feature later this year which isnt to far away anyway about 6 months. Im guessing 2021 in the first 6 months because the Virus situation in America is worse than anywhere in the world.

 

What if they put micro coring on the market? Is it that hard? What if micro coring is ready?

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Posted : 05/10/2020 5:39 am

53 minutes ago, Didikaxonim said:

What if they put micro coring on the market? Is it that hard? What if micro coring is ready?

As you heard in that video with Brian Biesman said they are still learning about Microcoring and Cytrellis are continuing to develop it.

Its not quite ready in terms of going to market, hence these comments and the ongoing Trials. But its not far off

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Posted : 05/10/2020 7:30 am

1 hour ago, Sniffy said:

As you heard in that video with Brian Biesman said they are still learning about Microcoring and Cytrellis are continuing to develop it.

Its not quite ready in terms of going to market, hence these comments and the ongoing Trials. But its not far off

did he talk about the possibility of treating acne scars using micro coring in the video?

1 hour ago, Sniffy said:

As you heard in that video with Brian Biesman said they are still learning about Microcoring and Cytrellis are continuing to develop it.

Its not quite ready in terms of going to market, hence these comments and the ongoing Trials. But its not far off

I want micro coring to hit the market faster.I find it hard to live with these scars

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Posted : 05/10/2020 10:06 am

2 hours ago, Didikaxonim said:

did he talk about the possibility of treating acne scars using micro coring in the video?

I want micro coring to hit the market faster.I find it hard to live with these scars

You can watch the video. Just click on it....its from previous page. He didn't mention Acne Scars. Remember Microcoring was never designed for treating scars intially. Its goal from the outset was skin tightening/wrinkles and then they later began investigating its use for acne scars.

Just keep your chin up and fingers crossed Microcoring, Sunogel, Gemstone, Tropoelastin etc can make a impact. The next couple years will be interesting

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Posted : 05/10/2020 10:46 am

This surgeon didnt talk about using microcoring on scars, but the makers of microcoring have couple presentations and images where they state they aim to use microcoring for not only wrinklers but also scars, acne scars and stretch marks I posted even one image of the presentation one or two pages away.
Theres just one catch they state that for wrinklers one or two treatments bring excellet results butfor scarring multiple treatments are needed which is understandable couse during one treatment they can safely remove only 5-8% of the skin

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Posted : 05/10/2020 11:14 am

1 hour ago, Sniffy said:

You can watch the video. Just click on it....its from previous page. He didn't mention Acne Scars. Remember Microcoring was never designed for treating scars intially. Its goal from the outset was skin tightening/wrinkles and then they later began investigating its use for acne scars.

Just keep your chin up and fingers crossed Microcoring, Sunogel, Gemstone, Tropoelastin etc can make a impact. The next couple years will be interesting

i want any tool to come faster and be useful.why do you mean 2 years?

29 minutes ago, AlexZ77 said:

This surgeon didnt talk about using microcoring on scars, but the makers of microcoring have couple presentations and images where they state they aim to use microcoring for not only wrinklers but also scars, acne scars and stretch marks I posted even one image of the presentation one or two pages away.
Theres just one catch they state that for wrinklers one or two treatments bring excellet results butfor scarring multiple treatments are needed which is understandable couse during one treatment they can safely remove only 5-8% of the skin

I also agree to a long treatment. I just want to get rid of the scars on my face. Every morning when I wake up I want to see a beautiful face, not scars, looking in the mirror.

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Posted : 05/10/2020 12:49 pm

1 hour ago, Didikaxonim said:

i want any tool to come faster and be useful.why do you mean 2 years?

I mean this year and/or 2021 we will hopefully see them hit the market. I dont have a crystal ball sorry mate.

 

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Posted : 05/10/2020 12:54 pm

4 minutes ago, Sniffy said:

I mean this year and/or 2021 we will hopefully see them hit the market. I dont have a crystal ball sorry mate.

 

do you expect only micro coring to appear? Or do you think sunogel will also hit the market in 2021?

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