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24 minutes ago, nikki_gargin said:Elastogen wont take long to come out. 5 years maybe. Its going to make them too much money to wait about.
God I hope not 5 years lol. It's obviously not that long in the grand scheme of things but I'm hoping for sooner still. But if it can't help box scars I'm left waiting anyway I guess
1 hour ago, nikki_gargin said:Elastogen wont take long to come out. 5 years maybe. Its going to make them too much money to wait about.
Word from the dermatologists and surgeons I talked to is something like 2-3 years on average, 5 years is possible, but that's if we're unlucky.
57 minutes ago, lehran said:Word from the dermatologists and surgeons I talked to is something like 2-3 years on average, 5 years is possible, but that's if we're unlucky.
With clinical trials already having occurred I don't see how it could still take that long to come out. I guess they would know better than me tho lol. The sound cloud interview you linked with Dr. Weiss had him saying that the first products would be on the shelf in a year to 18 months, and the interview was 9 months ago already.
33 minutes ago, goblue1996 said:With clinical trials already having occurred I don't see how it could still take that long to come out. I guess they would know better than me tho lol. The sound cloud interview you linked with Dr. Weiss had him saying that the first products would be on the shelf in a year to 18 months, and the interview was 9 months ago already.
They already have a product out there called "Me-tro" for wounds:
Thing is, now that Abvie and allergan have the product, they're gonna make sure it's as profitable and marketable as possible, although they're followin the recommendations of the elastagen team. So yeah it's definitely gonna take some time yet. You're not gonna see it coming out in 2020 or even 2021 imo...but 2022 is definitely a possibilty, we shall see.
2 hours ago, ermete55 said:Does elastogen remove stretchmarks completly?
The synthetic skin completely covers the zones devoid of skin, yes (so basically your stretch marks are filled and replaced with new skin), with the depression volume being reduced by 80-90%: which means that the depth of the depression is reduced by the aforementioned percentage.
So basically, you're going to get healthy looking skin back again, but it's not gonna completely make the depression disappear. For example, let's say you have a stretch mark with a depression depth of 5 millimeters (which is extremely deep for a stretch mark). With this product you're going to get a depression of 1 millimeters, as the new skin will fill it up to 80% (tell me if I'm being clear or not, I had a hard time understanding it the first time I was told lol)
nb: it's elastagen
10 hours ago, Scarcure said:Source ?
http://rczp.hbu.edu.cn/info_show.asp?infoid=260
I dont know why dr sun came back to china. i wonder prospects maybe not so well.
4 hours ago, lehran said:The synthetic skin completely covers the zones devoid of skin, yes (so basically your stretch marks are filled and replaced with new skin), with the depression volume being reduced by 80-90%: which means that the depth of the depression is reduced by the aforementioned percentage.
So basically, you're going to get healthy looking skin back again, but it's not gonna completely make the depression disappear. For example, let's say you have a stretch mark with a depression depth of 5 millimeters (which is extremely deep for a stretch mark). With this product you're going to get a depression of 1 millimeters, as the new skin will fill it up to 80% (tell me if I'm being clear or not, I had a hard time understanding it the first time I was told lol)
nb: it's elastagen
if elastagen could do such improvement about stretch mark, i really have faith about this product that could heal scar very well. cross finger, please come as soon as possible.
8 hours ago, rockginger said:http://rczp.hbu.edu.cn/info_show.asp?infoid=260
I dont know why dr sun came back to china. i wonder prospects maybe not so well.
if elastagen could do such improvement about stretch mark, i really have faith about this product that could heal scar very well. cross finger, please come as soon as possible.
Ok , but how does this make him out to be a fraud if he's recruiting ?.
11 hours ago, ermete55 said:How does it work? It's a injectable or a gel?
It's an injectable solution based on tropoelastin basically. I linked a video with the "metro" gel before, this will give you a good idea of how this is gonna work
8 hours ago, rockginger said:if elastagen could do such improvement about stretch mark, i really have faith about this product that could heal scar very well. cross finger, please come as soon as possible.
They want to treat acne scars and atrophic scars in general, and even hytrophic scars later on. It's just that box scars and icepick scars (acne) are harder to treat, so it'll take slightly more time for that, and I think someone else mentioned this as well. Hypertrophic scars are the real hard thing to take care of, because it's a surplus of skin, it's raised skin, which makes it trickier to remove.
21 minutes ago, Scarcure said:Ok , but how does this make him out to be a fraud if he's recruiting ?.
Because it's a shit tier university probably. If this was the real deal, he'd go to universities like Tsinghua.
NB: @goblue1996 btw, about what we were talking about yesterday: I never managed to get a hint from one of the guys of elastagen as to when the product will launch, I'm just guessing based on what other dermatologists/surgeons say. If you actually manage to find out, god I'm interested xD
I'm not sure i would call Guoming Sun a fraud. He can be cited at John Hopkins University as far back as 2010 where he conducted research on hydrogels with associate professor Sharon Gerecht.
He has filed a number of patents and he's name appears in numerous publications. There is of course a big step between research in the laboratory and a product in the market place.
https://engineering.jhu.edu/magazine/2013/07/healing-wonders-hydrogel/#.XoJCnohKgdV
4 hours ago, ajaxz said:My stretch marks depresses my so deeply that i was going to tattoo all over them this year, hearing those news makes me want to wait
what do i do now?
Just wait, like me. EVERYONE has stretch marks (80% of us), even men (I'm a guy). Mine are your regular stretch marks (they're not too big), but I got them on all my joints from puberty and I'm very self conscious about them, so I know where you're coming from. No one's going to care about yours since most people get them.
Tatooing over stretch marks is a very bad idea, just wait for elastagen to launch its product. I've been doing tons of personal research on them: if they're not the ones who have the solution for striae in the next 2-3 years, I really don't know who else would.
2 hours ago, ermete55 said:Does elastagen change the texture color of the stretchmarks? The akin will tan again?
All your answers are in this document, page 18 (elastagen)
https://go8.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allies-In-Excellence.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiT7JGcwcPoAhWM3YUKHQJ7D3MQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw3h4bM8A_OdyeQkAFgahTh t" rel="external nofollow"> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://go8.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allies-In-Excellence.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiT7JGcwcPoAhWM3YUKHQJ7D3MQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw3h4bM8A_OdyeQkAFgahTht
6 hours ago, OddMarket said:I'm not sure i would call Guoming Sun a fraud. He can be cited at John Hopkins University as far back as 2010 where he conducted research on hydrogels with associate professor Sharon Gerecht.
He has filed a number of patents and he's name appears in numerous publications. There is of course a big step between research in the laboratory and a product in the market place.https://engineering.jhu.edu/magazine/2013/07/healing-wonders-hydrogel/#.XoJCnohKgdV
for sure, I think dr sun is a typical science when i first saw he speech.Not so good at taking,do working hardly. i have a faith with him for years, but few results came out. it's strong word, i know i shouldn't say it so quickly. sorry,I just feel so depressed.
1 hour ago, lehran said:All your answers are in this document, page 18 (elastagen)
https://go8.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allies-In-Excellence.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiT7JGcwcPoAhWM3YUKHQJ7D3MQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw3h4bM8A_OdyeQkAFgahTh t" rel="external nofollow"> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://go8.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allies-In-Excellence.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiT7JGcwcPoAhWM3YUKHQJ7D3MQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw3h4bM8A_OdyeQkAFgahTht
I wish this was confirmed by other articles and news about the product. None of the other sources I've found state that it helps regenerate the accessory parts of skin too. Granted these other sources are mostly about the buy out so they probably don't really care about the finer details.
7 hours ago, goblue1996 said:I wish this was confirmed by other articles and news about the product. None of the other sources I've found state that it helps regenerate the accessory parts of skin too. Granted these other sources are mostly about the buy out so they probably don't really care about the finer details.
I can link you literally all the interesting sources I got about elastagen if you want. I got them all bookmarked, there must be 20 of them or so. There are much more out there obviously but those seemed good to me at the very least.
QuoteI think that elastagen will improve scars but will not remove them completly
@ermete55 It's probably going to be better than that, but it's gonna take longer to come out than the product they have for stretch marks and acne scars (AND, like others mentioned, they're still going to need on box scars and ice pick scars)
This is from 2017, before they were bought by Allergan/Abbvie
"The companys first target was the medical-aesthetics market. Daniels thought that, with enough funding, it could develop more than one formulation in a reasonable time frame. The company now has products that target three main indications. The most advanced is an injectable gel that makes stretch marks and acne scars fade away. Another is for surgi-cal scars and will be co-developed with a global medical-devices company that has established marketing and sales channels in numerous countries. The third application is in wound repair"
10 hours ago, lehran said:All your answers are in this document, page 18 (elastagen)
https://go8.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allies-In-Excellence.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiT7JGcwcPoAhWM3YUKHQJ7D3MQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw3h4bM8A_OdyeQkAFgahTh t" rel="external nofollow"> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://go8.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allies-In-Excellence.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiT7JGcwcPoAhWM3YUKHQJ7D3MQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw3h4bM8A_OdyeQkAFgahTht
this year, I want to get skin color tattoo over my stretch marks. I read it, but not sure I understand it. Even it fills the depressed volume, if it is not heal perfectly, then it wont be a color match. I am really confused. how would effect the tratment if I getthe skin color tattoo ?