9 hours ago, Scarcure said:Why is everyone so sad < come on lets get optimistic , we have so many people working on scarless healing as we speak.
There's nothing to lose by expecting the worst. It's a coping mechanism that persists even in light of promising scientific developments. I think it takes more courage to be optimistic.
On 12/5/2019 at 3:00 PM, Scarcure said:How the hell do you know Microcoring is another Skin TE ?
Easy with the language.
3 hours ago, PTAA said:There's nothing to lose by expecting the worst. It's a coping mechanism that persists even in light of promising scientific developments. I think it takes more courage to be optimistic.
You will probably be long dead before a solution actually exists. Can they grow limbs as we speak? No. So, how do you expect for someone to be able to regenerate your skin?
20 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:Easy with the language.
You will probably be long dead before a solution actually exists. Can they grow limbs as we speak? No. So, how do you expect for someone to be able to regenerate your skin?
And i'll ask you again , how would you know Microcoring is another Skin TE type diabolical ? , or are you just spreading your pessimism to make others feel as bad as you do ? if you got no evidence it doesn't work then stop making assumptions.
4 hours ago, Scarcure said:And i'll ask you again , how would you know Microcoring is another Skin TE type diabolical ? , or are you just spreading your pessimism to make others feel as bad as you do ? if you got no evidence it doesn't work then stop making assumptions.
You are acting a little cocky don't you think?
16 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:You are acting a little cocky don't you think?
No , am acting you a simple question , but all am getting is you diverting the question i am putting forward to you , again you're making assumptions that are unfounded as of now , are you right to be pessimistic ? perhaps , but scarless healing is going to happen , the question is when , for us lets hope sooner then later ( which i am confident it will be sooner ).
Keep your head up.
6 hours ago, Scarcure said:No , am acting you a simple question , but all am getting is you diverting the question i am putting forward to you , again you're making assumptions that are unfounded as of now , are you right to be pessimistic ? perhaps , but scarless healing is going to happen , the question is when , for us lets hope sooner then later ( which i am confident it will be sooner ).
Keep your head up.
Great
BA does not answer anymore only on pm. The most of the people have done a number of procedures and do not have a result or inthe process so not much to update.
I am like this doing Subs, see some small improvement but not much to update yet...also after you learn all the info from here you understand that it is a long probably lifetime fight with scars in front of you.. with no full solution only poss improvements...
after you try something you understand how long is healing how difficult all this...it is depressing reading the threads without much success also so frustrating...
56 minutes ago, Sibel said:BA does not answer anymore only on pm. The most of the people have done a number of procedures and do not have a result or inthe process so not much to update.
I am like this doing Subs, see some small improvement but not much to update yet...also after you learn all the info from here you understand that it is a long probably lifetime fight with scars in front of you.. with no full solution only poss improvements...
after you try something you understand how long is healing how difficult all this...it is depressing reading the threads without much success also so frustrating...
Who's BA ? is this why this forum hasn't had many comments for over a month ? , also there will be a solution , look at Sunogel and others on the horizon , keep your hope alive.
Oh..been looking to Sunogel for a year of so..at 46 not much hope, even if it happens the best time of my life has already gone with acne and scars...
BA was a mainmoderator/doc answering to all the people. You still can write him in pm.
The thing is that the most of his answers were more or less the same to the different people... with variations but still similar... the most of the cases were suggested multiple Subs(at the beginning it was 1-3, then became 3-8..), filler and tca cross/laser on the edges of the scars... and when people did several procedures coming back here with no results(me as well) he could not say much...so he understood that there was no point to continue like this..and all the necessary useful info concerning the methods he gave here(which is really good)
But when he was here it always was a discussion in every case with different people..so it was informative to read every new thread... these days people ask and get no answer or the answer from the same sufferers not the docs..nobody is leading this forum anymore in this sense..
On 1/3/2020 at 9:27 PM, Sibel said:Oh..been looking to Sunogel for a year of so..at 46 not much hope, even if it happens the best time of my life has already gone with acne and scars...
BA was a mainmoderator/doc answering to all the people. You still can write him in pm.
The thing is that the most of his answers were more or less the same to the different people... with variations but still similar... the most of the cases were suggested multiple Subs(at the beginning it was 1-3, then became 3-8..), filler and tca cross/laser on the edges of the scars... and when people did several procedures coming back here with no results(me as well) he could not say much...so he understood that there was no point to continue like this..and all the necessary useful info concerning the methods he gave here(which is really good)
But when he was here it always was a discussion in every case with different people..so it was informative to read every new thread... these days people ask and get no answer or the answer from the same sufferers not the docs..nobody is leading this forum anymore in this sense..
I wouldn't give up hope just yet my friend , try looking reading Lifespan by David Sinclair for aging , if you live long enough you'll see that skin regeneration will happen and scarring will be history , but i doubt we'll have to wait that long
My opinion is that we have to wait until Sunogel release their product to cure our scars and it may take around 5 years.
Nowadays I don't even waste time and money anymore on fixing my scars. Nothing can be done. We gotta wait, Sunogel is still in preclinical trials....has to go through all 3 phases, will take lots of time
Here's an article on microcoring. Let's wait a little longer
I'm fairly excited at the prospect of dermal microcoring. We are participants in the clinical trials, so can't say much yet, but we are proud to be key contributors to the development of most groundbreaking dermatology technologies in our research department, and I believe this is one of them, says Dr. Anolik. While not yet FDA-approved, the doctor explains that the concept is the ability to core out, or cut out, a fraction of a millimeter without leaving a scar. And doing this thousands of times in a treatment allows for tightening of the skin surface. Im hopeful it will be helpful for patients battling skin laxity and acne scarring, and one more step toward the reduced need for facelifts.
Heres to looking more well rested, refreshed, and tighter all over.
12 hours ago, DinkumFridge said:Here's an article on microcoring. Let's wait a little longer
I'm fairly excited at the prospect of dermal microcoring. We are participants in the clinical trials, so can't say much yet, but we are proud to be key contributors to the development of most groundbreaking dermatology technologies in our research department, and I believe this is one of them, says Dr. Anolik. While not yet FDA-approved, the doctor explains that the concept is the ability to core out, or cut out, a fraction of a millimeter without leaving a scar. And doing this thousands of times in a treatment allows for tightening of the skin surface. Im hopeful it will be helpful for patients battling skin laxity and acne scarring, and one more step toward the reduced need for facelifts.
Heres to looking more well rested, refreshed, and tighter all over.
I am checking Cytrellis all the time. Im quite positive it will be at minimum, real improvements. But I think it can do what we all hope x
13 hours ago, AlexZ77 said:Thanks for the info DinkumFridge!
I truely belive that we will get a treatment within the next 5y max 10 years that will be able to make our scars actuallysmaller and probably within 20 years a treatment that will completely regenerate our skin.
I doubt 20 years , this decade will be it , this decade we will be free of scars.
On 1/12/2020 at 11:57 PM, SimpleMutton said:My opinion is that we have to wait until Sunogel release their product to cure our scars and it may take around 5 years.
Nowadays I don't even waste time and money anymore on fixing my scars. Nothing can be done. We gotta wait, Sunogel is still in preclinical trials....has to go through all 3 phases, will take lots of time
What is Sunogel? Is it really the answer to all our prayers? I am sorry for asking so bluntly but you really got me intruiged!!
Elastagen was bought by Allergan for 150 million dollars in 2018, here are several audio interviews with robert daniels (ceo) and tony weiss (the guy who's been working on tropoelastin for 20 years), and according to them, their product is very powerful, and virtually solves problems like stretch marks (as long as they're not larger than 0.5 mm) and acne scar.
Essentially, in the case of stretch marks, the synthetic skin fills in the lesion (since it's atrophic) and replaces the skin that should have been there in the first place. They mention an average improvement of 90% based on the 40 people who they tested their product on.
I'll link you guys two of those interviews, I suppose it should help, and I'll also add a bunch of links which should be interesting as well concerning elastagen
https://soundcloud.com/user-505804043/synthetic-skin-changing-lives-around-the-world
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/allergan-acquire-elastagen-access-next-generation-injectable-weiss/
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/botox-maker-allergan-buys-elastagen-2018-2
https://www.medicalresearch.nsw.gov.au/human-skin-replacement-that-got-experts-buzzing/
Also this link (go to page 18 of the document), which explains that their tropoelastin prodcut basically reproduces everything the skin does (sweat, hair etc...)
https://go8.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allies-In-Excellence.pdf
And a simple video about their product:
When one of the biggest pharmaceutical companies in the world, which created Botox, acquire a clinical trial company for 150 million dollars, it's big.
IMPORTANT: right now, they have a great solution for atrophic scars like stretch marks like I mentioned, but for bigger, hypertrophic scars, they're still working on another version of the product to make it work for this kind of skin conditions.
TLDR: looks like we finally have a solution for stretch marks and acne scars, which, although it won't 100% remove them, is really close, and should make them extremely hard to notice at all anymore (so it virtually removes the problem, again).
12 hours ago, lehran said:Elastagen was bought by Allergan for 150 million dollars in 2018, here are several audio interviews with robert daniels (ceo) and tony weiss (the guy who's been working on tropoelastin for 20 years), and according to them, their product is very powerful, and virtually solves problems like stretch marks (as long as they're not larger than 0.5 mm) and acne scar.
Essentially, in the case of stretch marks, the synthetic skin fills in the lesion (since it's atrophic) and replaces the skin that should have been there in the first place. They mention an average improvement of 90% based on the 40 people who they tested their product on.
I'll link you guys two of those interviews, I suppose it should help, and I'll also add a bunch of links which should be interesting as well concerning elastagen
https://soundcloud.com/user-505804043/synthetic-skin-changing-lives-around-the-world
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/allergan-acquire-elastagen-access-next-generation-injectable-weiss/
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/botox-maker-allergan-buys-elastagen-2018-2
https://www.medicalresearch.nsw.gov.au/human-skin-replacement-that-got-experts-buzzing/
Also this link (go to page 18 of the document), which explains that their tropoelastin prodcut basically reproduces everything the skin does (sweat, hair etc...)
https://go8.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allies-In-Excellence.pdf
And a simple video about their product:
When one of the biggest pharmaceutical companies in the world, which created Botox, acquire a clinical trial company for 150 million dollars, it's big.
IMPORTANT: right now, they have a great solution for atrophic scars like stretch marks like I mentioned, but for bigger, hypertrophic scars, they're still working on another version of the product to make it work for this kind of skin conditions.
TLDR: looks like we finally have a solution for stretch marks and acne scars, which, although it won't 100% remove them, is really close, and should make them extremely hard to notice at all anymore (so it virtually removes the problem, again).
This decade is it my friend , scarring will be over.