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1 hour ago, Scarcure said:Sounds good .... but it isn't scarless healing .... not to down play it but am just stating it that's all.
I completely agree. This is to be taken as something that will drastically reduce the appearance of stretch marks and acne scars, to the point where it's only a very minor aesthetic issue (since we're talking about a 80-90% reduction according to the trial tests, depending on the patients), BUT, as you said, it's not a 100% removal, and it's important to mention it.
Just now, lehran said:I completely agree. This is to be taken as something that will drastically reduce the appearance of stretch marks and acne scars, to the point where it's only a very minor aesthetic issue (since we're talking about a 80-90% reduction according to the trial tests, depending on the patients), BUT, as you said, it's not a 100% removal, and it's important to mention it.
80 to 90 is still huge .... however 100% is what we want ultimately .... and that's what sunogel and alot of others are promising .... but to be honest .... as i have stated if we are getting this close of a 80 to 90 percent reduction of scarring ... then this decade has to be it for the elimination of scarring ... because this isn't just an aesthetic issue .... scarring ruins lives ... destroys you on an emotional and psychological level ...
7 minutes ago, Scarcure said:80 to 90 is still huge .... however 100% is what we want ultimately .... and that's what sunogel and alot of others are promising .... but to be honest .... as i have stated if we are getting this close of a 80 to 90 percent reduction of scarring ... then this decade has to be it for the elimination of scarring ... because this isn't just an aesthetic issue .... scarring ruins lives ... destroys you on an emotional and psychological level ...
Depends on what kind of "scarring" we're talking about really.
For example, stretch marks are incredibly common (80% of women get them, and 50% of men get them too), which means that the vast majority of people won't have a problem with you having them. It can cause you to be very insecure for sure, but that's it. If you learn to live with them, it's not going to change your life at all, and no woman will really care at all.
Other, more severe kinds of scars can be a bigger issue for sure: the pain, their size, and so on...
8 hours ago, AlexZ77 said:It really seems like we will get a scarless healing this decade. It would mean a world for me, Im just 20 since 2 weeks and thinking that ill get perfect skin before my 30 bday is amazing
Well am 30 now .... so if i got perfect skin by 40 i'd feel bad ... because i have had scars since i was 18 , so almost 13 years of hell , and it has been made worse with laser ... my whole face is now fucked with micro scarring even close to my eyelids .... so if we do get scarless healing this decade i will be absolutely overjoyed ..... we are in this together friend *hug*
2 hours ago, Scarcure said:Well am 30 now .... so if i got perfect skin by 40 i'd feel bad ... because i have had scars since i was 18 , so almost 13 years of hell , and it has been made worse with laser ... my whole face is now fucked with micro scarring even close to my eyelids .... so if we do get scarless healing this decade i will be absolutely overjoyed ..... we are in this together friend *hug*
I recently turned 30 too. I'm really happy to see that a proper product for stretch marks will be out in only a couple of years since I'll still be young and able to enjoy a few things I couldn't enjoy because of them
2 hours ago, Sibel said:Well no much hope for me at 46..
Any news about Coring? I read about the trials but not outcomes...
what is coring? Also 46 is still relatively young nowadays, you still have 30 years of very good health if not more in front of you if you take care of yourself.
Im interested in one thing, I have had myself 6 laser treatments with prp on my acne scarring on temples and it improved a lot, like 30-40% overall (And Im sure of it couse I need a better light to see my scarring than before). So how is it possible for laser to worsenscarring? Just pure luck or what?
8 hours ago, AlexZ77 said:Im interested in one thing, I have had myself 6 laser treatments with prp on my acne scarring on temples and it improved a lot, like 30-40% overall (And Im sure of it couse I need a better light to see my scarring than before). So how is it possible for laser to worsenscarring? Just pure luck or what?
It was made worse for me because the bitchthat performed it on me didn't know what she was doing .... it seemed rushed , i got little to no advice on the after care ..... i now have microscarring just under the dark circles of my eyes .... the setting of the laser must of been too high am guessing .... my nose has pits .. the only places where i don't seem to have scarring is my jaw area where i can at least grow a beard.
If I may weigh in as well: I've tried to get to both allergan and elastagen, and they basically recommended me to wait for the clinical trial study of the product (which should be published by allergan at some point), which will be the only real good indication of what can be expected.
The product does sound super promising for acne scars and stretch marks, but they're being super conservative and careful as long as they're not completely sure that it works...which is reassuring I suppose.
I did read something about it providing a 80-90% improvement overall so far, which is good, but I'm still going to manage my expectations.
2 minutes ago, ecek said:do we know when will the elastagen be available ?
I would REALLY like to know that man, just having a deadline would be great. Stretch marks is the only problem I have but I have tons of them (as a guy) and it's really something that hurts me on a psychological level.
Once I get rid of them, oh boy, am I going to be happier in my everyday life.
I thought I should update some of you guys, as I've mostly talked about elastagen.
I also talked to a certified plastic surgeon (I removed his name), and it looks like PolarityTE could be a very, very viable option as well for several skin conditions
I also got some feedback from other surgeons, who kinda agree.
So yeah, both elastagen and polarityte seem to be viable options, still nothing worth it as feedback goes concerning sunogel though
Hey there, new user around here.
I've also been reading tons of stuff about Elastagen, and I've been asking several dermatologists (who I knew were aware of the existence of the clinical trial company), and they also say it's very promising for stretch marks (which is what I'd like to treat in the near future). The 80%-90% reduction thingy is kinda what I got while looking around, but you have to keep in mind that's it's more about the overall "volume", apparently, which basically means that the lesions will be filled by new skin at around 80%-90%, only leaving very small depressions, and making it really hard to see the difference between healthy skin and stretch mark skin. So yeah, I think we have the right to be hyped !
A big update about how good polarityTE could be on stretch marks, after a discussion I had with a certified plastic surgeon (who's on the advisory boards of several start up companies or clinical trial companies). I didn't include his name, as I'm sure he would rather stay anonymous, and I don't want people to harass him with questions or anything of the sort...I mean, it's hard enough to get proper answers from surgeons or professionals involved in the tissue regeneration industry, so I thought I might just try to respect the anonymity of the people I had a conversation with, so far.
Here's our conversation:
-Me: " Dear ..., I thank you in advance for taking some time to answer my question, as Im sure that youre very busy. Ive heard a lot about polarityTE's and Elastagen's products recently, and their potential applications to several skin problems. I also read one of your comments on website "X" and I thought it was a very interesting one. My question is about stretch marks: which one of these companies, in your opinion, seem to have the best potential for treating this particular skin issue (basically, If I understood well, its about skin regeneration (polarityte) vs elastogenesis via the use of tropoelastin (elastagen))? Would you say a real treatment for stretch marks is going to be available in the very near future, or would it be wiser to manage my expectations? Again, thanks a lot for your time,
-Him: " Striae, or stretch marks, are tears in the dermis while the epidermis remains intact. SkinTE is a topical treatment and therefore would not work. I think actual tissue regeneration will be necessary to heal striae. A company called Direct Biologics makes a product called ExoFlo, which shows promising results upon injecting."
A lot of people have been talking about skinTE for stretch marks here months ago, so I thought it was important to just say it: this one won't work at all for stretch marks (kinda thought that was the case).
It's not very surprising: skin implant or tissue regeneration for striae distensae has to happen in the dermis, which is exactly what elastagen is about (read page 18 again to see what I mean https://go8.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allies-In-Excellence.pdf)
Now the good news, is that he mentioned another company which shows "promising results upon injecting", called Direct Biologics (which work is based on exosomes).
I'll try to see if he knows anything about Elastagen and how it became famous because of its potential in treating stretch marks and acne scars (but he might simply not know about it, lots of clinical trial companies out there fellas), and I'll get back to you if I get an answer.
See you soon fellas
11 minutes ago, lehran said:A big update about how good polarityTE could be on stretch marks, after a discussion I had with a certified plastic surgeon (who's on the advisory boards of several start up companies or clinical trial companies). I didn't include his name, as I'm sure he would rather stay anonymous, and I don't want people to harass him with questions or anything of the sort...I mean, it's hard enough to get proper answers from surgeons or professionals involved in the tissue regeneration industry, so I thought I might just try to respect the anonymity of the people I had a conversation with, so far.
Here's our conversation:
-Me: " Dear ..., I thank you in advance for taking some time to answer my question, as Im sure that youre very busy. Ive heard a lot about polarityTE's and Elastagen's products recently, and their potential applications to several skin problems. I also read one of your comments on website "X" and I thought it was a very interesting one. My question is about stretch marks: which one of these companies, in your opinion, seem to have the best potential for treating this particular skin issue (basically, If I understood well, its about skin regeneration (polarityte) vs elastogenesis via the use of tropoelastin (elastagen))? Would you say a real treatment for stretch marks is going to be available in the very near future, or would it be wiser to manage my expectations? Again, thanks a lot for your time,
-Him: " Striae, or stretch marks, are tears in the dermis while the epidermis remains intact. SkinTE is a topical treatment and therefore would not work. I think actual tissue regeneration will be necessary to heal striae. A company called Direct Biologics makes a product called ExoFlo, which shows promising results upon injecting."
A lot of people have been talking about skinTE for stretch marks here months ago, so I thought it was important to just say it: this one won't work at all for stretch marks (kinda thought that was the case).
It's not very surprising: skin implant or tissue regeneration for striae distensae has to happen in the dermis, which is exactly what elastagen is about (read page 18 again to see what I mean https://go8.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allies-In-Excellence.pdf)
Now the good news, is that he mentioned another company which shows "promising results upon injecting", called Direct Biologics (which work is based on exosomes).
I'll try to see if he knows anything about Elastagen and how it became famous because of its potential in treating stretch marks and acne scars (but he might simply not know about it, lots of clinical trial companies out there fellas), and I'll get back to you if I get an answer.
See you soon fellas
Wow, thanks for the update mate, yeah this is big. So basically it's either Elastagen of Direct Bilogics huh, interesting.
I'm kinda disappointed though, I heard so many people talk about skinTE for stretch marks, guess it just shows how you need to check things properly beforehand :s
Another update guys, this time about elastagen:
Still conversing with the same person:
-Me: "Thank you for answering so quickly, I appreciate it. I'll take a look at Direct Biologics then, it does sound interesting. Have you had the chance to work with the Elastagen team, or have you heard about them in general? I first heard about tropoelastin when a dermatologist pointed me to an article about them (page 18: https://go8.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allies-In-Excellence.pdf ). Obviously, we'll have to wait and see, but it does sound promising as well. "
-Him: " I have heard of it and it sounds very promising but more research is definitely necessary. Ill keep you posted if I hear anything"
That's all I got folks. So for those who want to get rid of stretch marks one day (most people get them, so I suppose that a lot of you guys are concerned), it's either elastagen or Direct Biologics apparently.
Tropoelastin looks amazing. Another missing link in the puzzle. Im not sure if it would work for me but still good product.
i have had fat grafting recently and it has worked amazing for me for comfort and softness of scar but the elasticity is still yet to be seen. A scar revision and tropoelastin injectable for me could be enough actually for full function again. Also elasticity helps reduce tension which in itself improves scars.
2 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:Tropoelastin looks amazing. Another missing link in the puzzle. Im not sure if it would work for me but still good product.
i have had fat grafting recently and it has worked amazing for me for comfort and softness of scar but the elasticity is still yet to be seen. A scar revision and tropoelastin injectable for me could be enough actually for full function again. Also elasticity helps reduce tension which in itself improves scars.
I'd say it's probably a great indication for you yes
Why are we talking about stretch marks ?
this for scarless healing of facial scarring.
Ye thisis all great news but this thread is about scarless healing aka perfect skin regeneration, so lets keep it about that
Most people here and me will be only satisfied with 100% improvement