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6 hours ago, Scarcure said:No , am acting you a simple question , but all am getting is you diverting the question i am putting forward to you , again you're making assumptions that are unfounded as of now , are you right to be pessimistic ? perhaps , but scarless healing is going to happen , the question is when , for us lets hope sooner then later ( which i am confident it will be sooner ).
Keep your head up.
Great 
BA does not answer anymore only on pm. The most of the people have done a number of procedures and do not have a result or inthe process so not much to update.
I am like this doing Subs, see some small improvement but not much to update yet...also after you learn all the info from here you understand that it is a long probably lifetime fight with scars in front of you.. with no full solution only poss improvements...
after you try something you understand how long is healing how difficult all this...it is depressing reading the threads without much success also so frustrating...
56 minutes ago, Sibel said:BA does not answer anymore only on pm. The most of the people have done a number of procedures and do not have a result or inthe process so not much to update.
I am like this doing Subs, see some small improvement but not much to update yet...also after you learn all the info from here you understand that it is a long probably lifetime fight with scars in front of you.. with no full solution only poss improvements...
after you try something you understand how long is healing how difficult all this...it is depressing reading the threads without much success also so frustrating...
Who's BA ? is this why this forum hasn't had many comments for over a month ? , also there will be a solution , look at Sunogel and others on the horizon , keep your hope alive.
Oh..been looking to Sunogel for a year of so..at 46 not much hope, even if it happens the best time of my life has already gone with acne and scars...
BA was a mainmoderator/doc answering to all the people. You still can write him in pm.
The thing is that the most of his answers were more or less the same to the different people... with variations but still similar... the most of the cases were suggested multiple Subs(at the beginning it was 1-3, then became 3-8..), filler and tca cross/laser on the edges of the scars... and when people did several procedures coming back here with no results(me as well) he could not say much...so he understood that there was no point to continue like this..and all the necessary useful info concerning the methods he gave here(which is really good)
But when he was here it always was a discussion in every case with different people..so it was informative to read every new thread... these days people ask and get no answer or the answer from the same sufferers not the docs..nobody is leading this forum anymore in this sense..
On 1/3/2020 at 9:27 PM, Sibel said:Oh..been looking to Sunogel for a year of so..at 46 not much hope, even if it happens the best time of my life has already gone with acne and scars...
BA was a mainmoderator/doc answering to all the people. You still can write him in pm.
The thing is that the most of his answers were more or less the same to the different people... with variations but still similar... the most of the cases were suggested multiple Subs(at the beginning it was 1-3, then became 3-8..), filler and tca cross/laser on the edges of the scars... and when people did several procedures coming back here with no results(me as well) he could not say much...so he understood that there was no point to continue like this..and all the necessary useful info concerning the methods he gave here(which is really good)
But when he was here it always was a discussion in every case with different people..so it was informative to read every new thread... these days people ask and get no answer or the answer from the same sufferers not the docs..nobody is leading this forum anymore in this sense..
I wouldn't give up hope just yet my friend , try looking reading Lifespan by David Sinclair for aging , if you live long enough you'll see that skin regeneration will happen and scarring will be history , but i doubt we'll have to wait that long
My opinion is that we have to wait until Sunogel release their product to cure our scars and it may take around 5 years.
Nowadays I don't even waste time and money anymore on fixing my scars. Nothing can be done. We gotta wait, Sunogel is still in preclinical trials....has to go through all 3 phases, will take lots of time
Here's an article on microcoring. Let's wait a little longer
I'm fairly excited at the prospect of dermal microcoring. We are participants in the clinical trials, so can't say much yet, but we are proud to be key contributors to the development of most groundbreaking dermatology technologies in our research department, and I believe this is one of them, says Dr. Anolik. While not yet FDA-approved, the doctor explains that the concept is the ability to core out, or cut out, a fraction of a millimeter without leaving a scar. And doing this thousands of times in a treatment allows for tightening of the skin surface. Im hopeful it will be helpful for patients battling skin laxity and acne scarring, and one more step toward the reduced need for facelifts.
Heres to looking more well rested, refreshed, and tighter all over.
12 hours ago, DinkumFridge said:Here's an article on microcoring. Let's wait a little longer
I'm fairly excited at the prospect of dermal microcoring. We are participants in the clinical trials, so can't say much yet, but we are proud to be key contributors to the development of most groundbreaking dermatology technologies in our research department, and I believe this is one of them, says Dr. Anolik. While not yet FDA-approved, the doctor explains that the concept is the ability to core out, or cut out, a fraction of a millimeter without leaving a scar. And doing this thousands of times in a treatment allows for tightening of the skin surface. Im hopeful it will be helpful for patients battling skin laxity and acne scarring, and one more step toward the reduced need for facelifts.
Heres to looking more well rested, refreshed, and tighter all over.
I am checking Cytrellis all the time. Im quite positive it will be at minimum, real improvements. But I think it can do what we all hope x
13 hours ago, AlexZ77 said:Thanks for the info DinkumFridge!
I truely belive that we will get a treatment within the next 5y max 10 years that will be able to make our scars actuallysmaller and probably within 20 years a treatment that will completely regenerate our skin.
I doubt 20 years , this decade will be it , this decade we will be free of scars.
On 1/12/2020 at 11:57 PM, SimpleMutton said:My opinion is that we have to wait until Sunogel release their product to cure our scars and it may take around 5 years.
Nowadays I don't even waste time and money anymore on fixing my scars. Nothing can be done. We gotta wait, Sunogel is still in preclinical trials....has to go through all 3 phases, will take lots of time
What is Sunogel? Is it really the answer to all our prayers? I am sorry for asking so bluntly but you really got me intruiged!!
Elastagen was bought by Allergan for 150 million dollars in 2018, here are several audio interviews with robert daniels (ceo) and tony weiss (the guy who's been working on tropoelastin for 20 years), and according to them, their product is very powerful, and virtually solves problems like stretch marks (as long as they're not larger than 0.5 mm) and acne scar.
Essentially, in the case of stretch marks, the synthetic skin fills in the lesion (since it's atrophic) and replaces the skin that should have been there in the first place. They mention an average improvement of 90% based on the 40 people who they tested their product on.
I'll link you guys two of those interviews, I suppose it should help, and I'll also add a bunch of links which should be interesting as well concerning elastagen
https://soundcloud.com/user-505804043/synthetic-skin-changing-lives-around-the-world
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/allergan-acquire-elastagen-access-next-generation-injectable-weiss/
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/botox-maker-allergan-buys-elastagen-2018-2
https://www.medicalresearch.nsw.gov.au/human-skin-replacement-that-got-experts-buzzing/
Also this link (go to page 18 of the document), which explains that their tropoelastin prodcut basically reproduces everything the skin does (sweat, hair etc...)
https://go8.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allies-In-Excellence.pdf
And a simple video about their product:
When one of the biggest pharmaceutical companies in the world, which created Botox, acquire a clinical trial company for 150 million dollars, it's big.
IMPORTANT: right now, they have a great solution for atrophic scars like stretch marks like I mentioned, but for bigger, hypertrophic scars, they're still working on another version of the product to make it work for this kind of skin conditions.
TLDR: looks like we finally have a solution for stretch marks and acne scars, which, although it won't 100% remove them, is really close, and should make them extremely hard to notice at all anymore (so it virtually removes the problem, again).
12 hours ago, lehran said:Elastagen was bought by Allergan for 150 million dollars in 2018, here are several audio interviews with robert daniels (ceo) and tony weiss (the guy who's been working on tropoelastin for 20 years), and according to them, their product is very powerful, and virtually solves problems like stretch marks (as long as they're not larger than 0.5 mm) and acne scar.
Essentially, in the case of stretch marks, the synthetic skin fills in the lesion (since it's atrophic) and replaces the skin that should have been there in the first place. They mention an average improvement of 90% based on the 40 people who they tested their product on.
I'll link you guys two of those interviews, I suppose it should help, and I'll also add a bunch of links which should be interesting as well concerning elastagen
https://soundcloud.com/user-505804043/synthetic-skin-changing-lives-around-the-world
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/allergan-acquire-elastagen-access-next-generation-injectable-weiss/
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/botox-maker-allergan-buys-elastagen-2018-2
https://www.medicalresearch.nsw.gov.au/human-skin-replacement-that-got-experts-buzzing/
Also this link (go to page 18 of the document), which explains that their tropoelastin prodcut basically reproduces everything the skin does (sweat, hair etc...)
https://go8.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allies-In-Excellence.pdf
And a simple video about their product:
When one of the biggest pharmaceutical companies in the world, which created Botox, acquire a clinical trial company for 150 million dollars, it's big.
IMPORTANT: right now, they have a great solution for atrophic scars like stretch marks like I mentioned, but for bigger, hypertrophic scars, they're still working on another version of the product to make it work for this kind of skin conditions.
TLDR: looks like we finally have a solution for stretch marks and acne scars, which, although it won't 100% remove them, is really close, and should make them extremely hard to notice at all anymore (so it virtually removes the problem, again).
This decade is it my friend , scarring will be over.
2 hours ago, Scarcure said:This decade is it my friend , scarring will be over.
We shall see, it can never hurt to manage your own expectations though. So far there's something for acne scars and atrophic scars (mostly stretch marks though), for more serious scars they're still not quite there yet (stretch marks aren't even painful, or a problem in every day lives, and they're often not too big of a deal visually speaking, although they are annoying).
I merely mentioned elastagen instead of sunogel, and polaritye (skinTE) because in their case, their are tons of "green" signals: between the acquisition by allergan, to the number of prestigious investors who are working with them, and the medical institutions which tony weiss is either a part of or a director of yada yada yada...I didn't find anything really convincing nor a proof that the products of sunogel and polarityte would end up being marketed, used, or anything.
Clinical trial companies are, by nature, something that often fail. Most of us are not scientists, what we're looking for is results that will help us in our everyday lives, which is why it's much better to focus on the ones which are actually "sure values".
Ah, and this might interest you guys too btw: http://elastagen.com /" rel="external nofollow"> https://web.archive.org/web/20190423230745/http://elastagen.com/
The original elastagen.com website was closed since elastagen now belongs to allergan, and it's now very, very hard to get anything from them as the product is in the pipeline. But here you can see who was working for elastagen, and what it was all about, so have fun.
11 hours ago, lehran said:We shall see, it can never hurt to manage your own expectations though. So far there's something for acne scars and atrophic scars (mostly stretch marks though), for more serious scars they're still not quite there yet (stretch marks aren't even painful, or a problem in every day lives, and they're often not too big of a deal visually speaking, although they are annoying).
I merely mentioned elastagen instead of sunogel, and polaritye (skinTE) because in their case, their are tons of "green" signals: between the acquisition by allergan, to the number of prestigious investors who are working with them, and the medical institutions which tony weiss is either a part of or a director of yada yada yada...I didn't find anything really convincing nor a proof that the products of sunogel and polarityte would end up being marketed, used, or anything.
Clinical trial companies are, by nature, something that often fail. Most of us are not scientists, what we're looking for is results that will help us in our everyday lives, which is why it's much better to focus on the ones which are actually "sure values".
Ah, and this might interest you guys too btw: http://elastagen.com /" rel="external nofollow"> https://web.archive.org/web/20190423230745/http://elastagen.com/
The original elastagen.com website was closed since elastagen now belongs to allergan, and it's now very, very hard to get anything from them as the product is in the pipeline. But here you can see who was working for elastagen, and what it was all about, so have fun.
Excuse me Lehran but could you please explain what does it mean that it is in the pipeline ? Does it mean they are taking steps to take it to the market?
11 hours ago, AlexZ77 said:Excuse me Lehran but could you please explain what does it mean that it is in the pipeline ? Does it mean they are taking steps to take it to the market?
Pretty much yes. The product is working, now they did to try to optimize it as much as possible, and then market it.
Motherfucker! This Elastagen thing, if it really works like they show in the video, may actually be the fucking answer for all of us. I mean this would be a revolution in science. It isn't worth 150 million. It's worth a fucking BILLION dollars. This is the first time I've seen something that (again, if it really works like they show in the video) will save us ALL. I am cautiously (very cautiously) optimistic. Anyone who knows more about pharma etc. please contribute here and tell us when it can be available, what stage of clinical trials it's in, I mean whatever youc an tell us. PLEASE. PLEASE. PLEASE. Contact that company if you have to.
On 2/6/2020 at 2:17 AM, Rez77 said:Motherfucker! This Elastagen thing, if it really works like they show in the video, may actually be the fucking answer for all of us. I mean this would be a revolution in science. It isn't worth 150 million. It's worth a fucking BILLION dollars. This is the first time I've seen something that (again, if it really works like they show in the video) will save us ALL. I am cautiously (very cautiously) optimistic. Anyone who knows more about pharma etc. please contribute here and tell us when it can be available, what stage of clinical trials it's in, I mean whatever youc an tell us. PLEASE. PLEASE. PLEASE. Contact that company if you have to.
I've contacted the ex elastagen CEO, and I was lucky enough to get an answer: unfortunately they can't share anything with anyone, since the company has been absorbed by allergan. What they're doing so far is making sure that proper products get to the market by helping allergan out, so they're basically working together. It's probably going to take something like 2 years before it happens though, but it's worth waiting.
Trust me, I tried getting information left and right, you're not getting one until the product is ready, so just wait for an update
Also, I REALLY, REALLY need to be clear about this: this is mostly going to be a breakthrough for stretch marks, acne scars, and surgical interventions. And even then, it's not going to be a 100% removal of the issue, although it is going to dramatically lessen the appearance of those skin issues.
When it comes to specific scars like keloid scars, huge scars and the such, we're still not there yet.
3 hours ago, lehran said:I've contacted the ex elastagen CEO, and I was lucky enough to get an answer: unfortunately they can't share anything with anyone, since the company has been absorbed by allergan. What they're doing so far is making sure that proper products get to the market by helping allergan out, so they're basically working together. It's probably going to take something like 2 years before it happens though, but it's worth waiting.
Trust me, I tried getting information left and right, you're not getting one until the product is ready, so just wait for an update
Also, I REALLY, REALLY need to be clear about this: this is mostly going to be a breakthrough for stretch marks, acne scars, and surgical interventions. And even then, it's not going to be a 100% removal of the issue, although it is going to dramatically lessen the appearance of those skin issues.
When it comes to specific scars like keloid scars, huge scars and the such, we're still not there yet.
Sounds good .... but it isn't scarless healing .... not to down play it but am just stating it that's all.