On 11/4/2019 at 3:24 PM, MyBeautifulScars said:This is not new. Every now and then, some journalists write an article about 3D skin printing and printing of other organs but the technology is primitive and still years away.
It most certainly is new. 3d printed skin has not been grafted, let alone shown blood vessel development. With stem cells grafted skin was transplanted with blood vessel development but this is quite big. Just another step towards scar free healing in the true sense. Skin will be the first organ.
Cytrellis patent:
[108] In certain embodiments, technologies, methods, and/or devices described herein can be useful forremovalof, e.g.,redundantor excess skin, pigment, hair follicles, and/or vessels in the skin, and/or for treating acne, allodynia, blemishes, ectopic dermatitis, hyperpigmentation, hyperplasia (e.g., lentigo or keratosis), loss of translucency, loss of elasticity, melasma (e.g., epidermal, dermal, or mixed subtypes), photodamage, rashes (e.g., erythematous, macular, papular, and/or bullous conditions), psoriasis, rhytides (or wrinkles, e.g., lateral canthal lines ("crow's feet"), age-related rhytides, sun-related rhytides, or heredity -related rhytides), sallow color, scar contracture (e.g., relaxation of scar tissue),scarring (e.g., due to acne, surgery, or other trauma), skin aging, skin contraction (e.g., excessive tension in the skin), skin irritation/sensitivity, striae (or stretch marks), tattoo removal, vascular lesions (e.g., angioma, erythema, hemangioma, papule, port wine stain, rosacea, reticular vein, or telangiectasia), or any other unwanted skin irregularities. The technologies, methods, and/or devices described herein may also be used to penetrate skin and trigger biological responses that may contribute to new skin tissue formation and tissue resurfacing and remodelling.
they change their wording depending on what their talking about. So they have parts where they say improvementand how that is done, but this says specifically removal. Because its a legal document it actually means removal too.
good day everyone! Only a few weeks to wait for clinical trial results.
20 hours ago, AlexZ77 said:One week till the end of clinicals of microcoring on acne scars, well finally see if its any usefull
scam scam scam !!!!
The technology we are looking for will never be achieved.
Medically speaking, if healing acne scars is possible, then healing any other skin problems such as wrinkles is also possible. We will be living in a world where 7 year old boy has exactly thesame skinas that of 70 year old man.
It's just not going to happen guys.
2 hours ago, endoftheroad said:scam scam scam !!!!
The technology we are looking for will never be achieved.
Medically speaking, if healing acne scars is possible, then healing any other skin problems such as wrinkles is also possible. We will be living in a world where 7 year old boy has exactly thesame skinas that of 70 year old man.
It's just not going to happen guys.
Its funny how people were talking the same about electric cars 10 years ago, now Tesla is going mainstream.
Scarlesss healing and having a perfect skin is not a question of if, its a question on when.
It was proved numerous times by medicall community that scarless healing is possible in humans we just need to find out how.
5 hours ago, endoftheroad said:scam scam scam !!!!
The technology we are looking for will never be achieved.
Medically speaking, if healing acne scars is possible, then healing any other skin problems such as wrinkles is also possible. We will be living in a world where 7 year old boy has exactly thesame skinas that of 70 year old man.
It's just not going to happen guys.
A scar and a wrinkle arecompletely different things???? And caused by completely different things. The comparison is a bit dumb. But funnily enough micro coring works for both so that also then disproves your claim it will only happen when wrinkles are solved lol.
19 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:A scar and a wrinkle arecompletely different things???? And caused by completely different things. The comparison is a bit dumb. But funnily enough micro coring works for both so that also then disproves your claim it will only happen when wrinkles are solved lol.
It's not a different thing. Perfectly regenerating skin means it can healanything. If it can heal wide,deep acne scars, why do you think it can't regeneratethose thinwrinkles?
This technology we are looking for is just absurd.
Everyone's going to have a baby face, which will make us almost impossible to distinguish between 70 year old and 17 year old.
Getting old is a fate that no creatures can avoid. That's how nature works.
1 hour ago, endoftheroad said:It's not a different thing. Perfectly regenerating skin means it can healanything. If it can heal wide,deep acne scars, why do you think it can't regeneratethose thinwrinkles?
This technology we are looking for is just absurd.
Everyone's going to have a baby face, which will make us almost impossible to distinguish between 70 year old and 17 year old.
Getting old is a fate that no creatures can avoid. That's how nature works.
Go away , your pessimism isn't needed nor wanted , and what is your bases of any of the up and coming technologies wouldn't be able to help regenerate skin ? , do you just come on here to lower the mood because you're down about your skin ?
3 hours ago, endoftheroad said:It's not a different thing. Perfectly regenerating skin means it can healanything. If it can heal wide,deep acne scars, why do you think it can't regeneratethose thinwrinkles?
This technology we are looking for is just absurd.
Everyone's going to have a baby face, which will make us almost impossible to distinguish between 70 year old and 17 year old.
Getting old is a fate that no creatures can avoid. That's how nature works.
Actually,I look younger than my age. Some people keep a babyface well into adulthood.
Some animals are capable of regeneration such as lizards (tail regeneration for example) even as they age.
The trade off with nature is that the more complex a living organism becomes, it has less regenerativecapabilities. Mammals don't have great regenerative capabilities.
Scarless healing and aging are two different things. Older people tend to scar less for example.
As for microcoring as far as I'm concerned, it's pretty absurd.
I do believe that someone somewhere knows how to change scar tissue into normal looking skin however they don't want to release it yet for public use.
The moment they do find a way to regrow lost limbs, I do believe scarless healing will become a reality. And wrinkles will also dissapear for good.
1 hour ago, Scarcure said:Go away , your pessimism isn't needed nor wanted , and what is your bases of any of the up and coming technologies wouldn't be able to help regenerate skin ? , do you just come on here to lower the mood because you're down about your skin ?
Based on your alias, I think you believe that scars are a disease. There's no cure to be found for scars.
13 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:Actually,I look younger than my age. Some people keep a babyface well into adulthood.
Some animals are capable of regeneration such as lizards (tail regeneration for example) even as they age.
The trade off with nature is that the more complex a living organism becomes, it has less regenerativecapabilities. Mammals don't have great regenerative capabilities.
Scarless healing and aging are two different things. Older people tend to scar less for example.
As for microcoring as far as I'm concerned, it's pretty absurd.
I do believe that someone somewhere knows how to change scar tissue into normal looking skin however they don't want to release it yet for public use.
The moment they do find a way to regrow lost limbs, I do believe scarless healing will become a reality. And wrinkles will also dissapear for good.
Based on your alias, I think you believe that scars are a disease. There's no cure to be found for scars.
Well they are according to how people react to them , yeah on an evolutionary perspectiveit isn't , however scars are psychologically and physiology damaging and damning , this needs to be dealt with , think of the poor soulsthat live with acid attack scarring and they are never the same ever , are you going to say " scarring isn't a disease " to them ?
Quite frankly scarring is something that destroys people not just physically , but psychologically , your self esteem goes in the toilet ( as i can speak for myself ) , you feel less desirable in terms of social interactions because of the marks on your face , i can't possibly imagine for even an iota of a second what hell the poor people that suffer an acid attack must feel , for those people , having scarless healing isn't just cosmetic , it's a matter of life and death ( scarring in severe cases can lead to death )
7 hours ago, endoftheroad said:It's not a different thing. Perfectly regenerating skin means it can healanything. If it can heal wide,deep acne scars, why do you think it can't regeneratethose thinwrinkles?
This technology we are looking for is just absurd.
Everyone's going to have a baby face, which will make us almost impossible to distinguish between 70 year old and 17 year old.
Getting old is a fate that no creatures can avoid. That's how nature works.
Scaring is fibrosis. Wrinkle is not. Wrinkle is normal tissue eg has hair follicle, sweat gland etc scar does not have these.
You clearly have no clue even what a scar is. Go back a few steps in your learning first. There is zero correlation between baby face (which btw fat gives baby face, not the skin) and Cytrellis. Lol
Agree with mybeautifulscars.
Microcoring andsunogel are both scams for sure.
I mean, if this revolutionary technology were to be suddenly developed, the person who develops it should be a miraculously genius person. Nobel prize winner level of intelligence at least.
Now, go to those websites and take a glimpse of their team profile. Do you see any potential Nobel prize winner? Do you see any Einstein level of genius?
What's important is the*person* who does it.Elon musk, for example, always manages to transform seemingly absurd ideas to reality. Throughout the history, ithas always been the geniuses who made ground-breaking breakthrough.
On that note, I think the only person that has even 0.1% chance of changing the game for us is David Sinclair, professor of Harvard medical school. (Times 100, won various awards) This guy is currently developing some age-reversing technology that can rejuvenate people. It claims it can even regenerate pre-existing scars or wounds through age reversing. It sounds crazy, but I think this has better chance than those startup companies you guys are rooting for.
3 hours ago, Scarcure said:Well they are according to how people react to them , yeah on an evolutionary perspectiveit isn't , however scars are psychologically and physiology damaging and damning , this needs to be dealt with , think of the poor soulsthat live with acid attack scarring and they are never the same ever , are you going to say " scarring isn't a disease " to them ?
Quite frankly scarring is something that destroys people not just physically , but psychologically , your self esteem goes in the toilet ( as i speak for myself ) , you feel less desirable in term of social interactions because of the marks on your face , i can't possibly imagine for even an iota of a second what hell the poor people that suffer an acid attack must feel , for those people , having scarless healing isn't just cosmetic , it's a matter of life and death ( scarring in severe cases can lead to death )
Yes, lots of victims of acid burns and burns in general. Their self-esteem takes a hit and many do the irreparable act of suicide.
I'm the first person here to tell you how severely my back is scarred from years of acne.
As I get older, my face is losing fat and the pits left from zits are becoming more noticeable. I still got my youthful looks though.
12 hours ago, endoftheroad said:Agree with mybeautifulscars.
Microcoring andsunogel are both scams for sure.
I mean, if this revolutionary technology were to be suddenly developed, the person who develops it should be a miraculously genius person. Nobel prize winner level of intelligence at least.
Now, go to those websites and take a glimpse of their team profile. Do you see any potential Nobel prize winner? Do you see any Einstein level of genius?
What's important is the*person* who does it.Elon musk, for example, always manages to transform seemingly absurd ideas to reality. Throughout the history, ithas always been the geniuses who made ground-breaking breakthrough.
On that note, I think the only person that has even 0.1% chance of changing the game for us is David Sinclair, professor of Harvard medical school. (Times 100, won various awards) This guy is currently developing some age-reversing technology that can rejuvenate people. It claims it can even regenerate pre-existing scars or wounds through age reversing. It sounds crazy, but I think this has better chance than those startup companies you guys are rooting for.
The skin scars for a variety of reasons and causes. Some only need inflammation and they get scarred. Others skin is more hardy and wont. A number of things therefore could be useful to some, but not all. Cytrellis claims to be good for scar contracture, eg the cores taken will come back as softer collagen 1 scar, but not be able to take it out due to diameter. A linear scar orsay 5mm acne scar can be easily removed. Its not a miracle, you are right. But it will be enough for some.
There is also birchbiomed fs2. Anti fibrotic, again might not be for all but so far there has been no news from trials to say its crap. Some the combination of multiple therapies, to address the multiple problems of scars will be enough to live happily with.
polarityte and Cytrellis both reley onthe skin to expand. Its old science, new technology to manipulate the science. Its not creating new skin, just borrowing. PolarityTE is said to be thin. This is because they take a small graft, process it, place it into a wound 10 times the size and the skin mush expands to cover the area. So of course its thin. Cytrellis relies on stretch mechanics and expansion. Its gradual and research papers have shown the dermis and epidermis can recover 6 months to a year afterexpansion to previous thickness (will be thinned initially).
total regeneration from wound is still the future your talking about DNA or gene manipulation,but that doesnt mean technology now will not work. Hopefully one day 60% body burns will regenerate back to perfect skin, but if you wanna wait another 20 years go for it. Right now Ill use mechanical technology which is also likely more safer than manipulating your cells.
2 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:The skin scars for a variety of reasons and causes. Some only need inflammation and they get scarred. Others skin is more hardy and wont. A number of things therefore could be useful to some, but not all. Cytrellis claims to be good for scar contracture, eg the cores taken will come back as softer collagen 1 scar, but not be able to take it out due to diameter. A linear scar orsay 5mm acne scar can be easily removed. Its not a miracle, you are right. But it will be enough for some.
There is also birchbiomed fs2. Anti fibrotic, again might not be for all but so far there has been no news from trials to say its crap. Some the combination of multiple therapies, to address the multiple problems of scars will be enough to live happily with.
polarityte and Cytrellis both reley onthe skin to expand. Its old science, new technology to manipulate the science. Its not creating new skin, just borrowing. PolarityTE is said to be thin. This is because they take a small graft, process it, place it into a wound 10 times the size and the skin mush expands to cover the area. So of course its thin. Cytrellis relies on stretch mechanics and expansion. Its gradual and research papers have shown the dermis and epidermis can recover 6 months to a year afterexpansion to previous thickness (will be thinned initially).
total regeneration from wound is still the future your talking about DNA or gene manipulation,but that doesnt mean technology now will not work. Hopefully one day 60% body burns will regenerate back to perfect skin, but if you wanna wait another 20 years go for it. Right now Ill use mechanical technology which is also likely more safer than manipulating your cells.
I doubt 20 years , i called the scarfree foundation in the UK and according to what i've been told by one of the researchers ( that are working on regenerating skin on patients with severe scarring let alone acne scarring ), a breakthough will happened within a year , this is what i've been told , so take for what's worth , but i doubt 20 years , but then again what do i know , but am more optimistic it'll be shorter.
2 hours ago, Scarcure said:I doubt 20 years , i called the scarfree foundation in the UK and according to what i've been told by one of the researchers ( that are working on regenerating skin on patients with severe scarring let alone acne scarring ), a breakthough will happened within a year , this is what i've been told , so take for what's worth , but i doubt 20 years , but then again what do i know , but am more optimistic it'll be shorter.
I heard that mentioned before, but that still requires trials and funding etc I think this is where birchbiomed was In 2012 in terms of steps to market. So maybe 5 to8 years for commercial. Sounds good though, I know in my life time it will happen but Im happy to get there with multiple treatments rather than just one. I know others will need a one off treatment and I might as well. Just dont know do ya.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/11/191127161316.htm
interesting stuff.
No news from MICROCORING.. nothing about acne scars at least. It only talks about facelifting.
I amon the verge of commiting suicide here. I guess the only way to have access to the technology is by joining the illuminati. They might know something.
Please contact me. Cant stand it anymore ^.^
6 hours ago, endoftheroad said:No news from MICROCORING.. nothing about acne scars at least. It only talks about facelifting.
I amon the verge of commiting suicide here. I guess the only way to have access to the technology is by joining the illuminati. They might know something.
Please contact me. Cant stand it anymore ^.^
Am in the same boat dude , i can't stand life because of my scars , and it's all over my face because of some cocksucker that was an incompetent with a Pixal laser , i recently brought the book Lifespan by David Sinclair
Well...I felt down in my young years. now at 46 I feel it is all my life which is ruined by this decease..... from the moment I wake up till the moment I go to bed I feel it every minute..the life with constant limitations... had to refuse from many things.... lost chances, right moments...nothing to return and time of my life lost..
I invested my lifetime trying to fight acne first then to fight the scars.. I got about 10-20% after numerous procedures which mentally killed me..I am still doing Subcisions hoping for improvements... just can not fully accept that there is no cure for the scars((( they will be on my face tillthe day I die and nothing much to do..
48 minutes ago, Sibel said:Well...I felt down in my young years. now at 46 I feel it is all my life which is ruined by this decease..... from the moment I wake up till the moment I go to bed I feel it every minute..the life with constant limitations... had to refuse from many things.... lost chances, right moments...nothing to return and time of my life lost..
I invested my lifetime trying to fight acne first then to fight the scars.. I got about 10-20% after numerous procedures which mentally killed me..I am still doing Subcisions hoping for improvements... just can not fully accept that there is no cure for the scars((( they will be on my face tillthe day I die and nothing much to do..
Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do. Cheer up. I know many people who have extreme facial acne scarring. They have are quite successful.
6 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:Most of us in here likely feel down about our scars. Its apart of your life remember, not your whole life.
Well well, microcoring is becoming another SkinTE.
20 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do. Cheer up. I know many people who have extreme facial acne scarring. They have are quite successful.
Well well, microcoring is becoming another SkinTE.
How the hell do you know Microcoring is another Skin TE ?
On 12/5/2019 at 7:52 AM, MyBeautifulScars said:Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do. Cheer up. I know many people who have extreme facial acne scarring. They have are quite successful.
Well well, microcoring is becoming another SkinTE.
I have an uncle with bad acne scarring. He is successful and rich, has a beautiful wife too.
It doesn't seem like the scars affect him. But again I do understand how acne scars sufferers feel like they have been robbed at life.
It's tough but we have to keep hoping for the best.