Any updates on scarless healing or is this thread gonna be dead for a while?

1 hour ago, AlexZ77 said:

Any updates on scarless healing or is this thread gonna be dead for a while?

I wouldn't expect much of anything until the results of the Cytrellis scar trial come out towards the end of the year.

18 hours ago, PTAA said:

I wouldn't expect much of anything until the results of the Cytrellis scar trial come out towards the end of the year.

Is this a human trail?

1 hour ago, Danielhuzayev said:

Is this a human trail?

Yes.

Www.clinicaltrials.govMiami Dermatology and Laser Institute, 30 participants, completion date November 21, 2019.

On 8/30/2019 at 2:11 AM, AlexZ77 said:

Any updates on scarless healing or is this thread gonna be dead for a while?

Cytrellis and Birchbiomed are in Human trials so I think we all waiting for results and pictures now

Hi everyone

Avita Medical's Recell procedure for stem cell based acne scar healing has shown promise. I found this article that was presented a few months back at a conference has now been made available online:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31451856

OBJECTIVE:

To evaluate the efficacy of ReCell autologous cell regeneration techniques combined with dermabrasion treatment on the therapy of acne scars.

METHODS:

We analyzed retrospectively 78 patients with acne scars who presented to the Department of Plastic Surgery at Peking Union Medical College Hospital from May 2015 to May 2017; 30 patients were treated with dermabrasion (Group 1), and the other 48 patients were treated with ReCell autologous regeneration techniques combined with dermabrasion (Group 2). Efficacy was evaluated through self-evaluation of the patient, third-party evaluation and photographs taken before and after treatment. The wound healing time and postoperative complication rate were also recorded.

RESULTS:

The study revealed a significant difference in healing time (P<0.001) between patients treated with dermabrasion (Group 1) and patients treated with ReCell autologous regeneration techniques combined with dermabrasion (Group 2). The average healing time of Group 1 was 12.301.725days, while the average healing time of Group 2 was 5.271.086days. In Group 2, patient self-evaluation and third-party evaluation were more satisfactory than those of Group 1 (P<0.001). Moreover, there were no postoperative complications in Group 2 such as pigmentation and scar hyperplasia.

CONCLUSION:

The ReCell technique is simple, minimally invasive, biocompatible and effective in the treatment of acne scars. It can shorten healing time and reduce the occurrence of postoperative complications, thereby providing a safe and effective treatment approach for patients with facial acne scars.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to have a link to the full article but the results of Dermabrasion + ReCell sound very promising.

2 hours ago, Gits said:

Hi everyone

Avita Medical's Recell procedure for stem cell based acne scar healing has shown promise. I found this article that was presented a few months back at a conference has now been made available online:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31451856

OBJECTIVE:

To evaluate the efficacy of ReCell autologous cell regeneration techniques combined with dermabrasion treatment on the therapy of acne scars.

METHODS:

We analyzed retrospectively 78 patients with acne scars who presented to the Department of Plastic Surgery at Peking Union Medical College Hospital from May 2015 to May 2017; 30 patients were treated with dermabrasion (Group 1), and the other 48 patients were treated with ReCell autologous regeneration techniques combined with dermabrasion (Group 2). Efficacy was evaluated through self-evaluation of the patient, third-party evaluation and photographs taken before and after treatment. The wound healing time and postoperative complication rate were also recorded.

RESULTS:

The study revealed a significant difference in healing time (P<0.001) between patients treated with dermabrasion (Group 1) and patients treated with ReCell autologous regeneration techniques combined with dermabrasion (Group 2). The average healing time of Group 1 was 12.301.725days, while the average healing time of Group 2 was 5.271.086days. In Group 2, patient self-evaluation and third-party evaluation were more satisfactory than those of Group 1 (P<0.001). Moreover, there were no postoperative complications in Group 2 such as pigmentation and scar hyperplasia.

CONCLUSION:

The ReCell technique is simple, minimally invasive, biocompatible and effective in the treatment of acne scars. It can shorten healing time and reduce the occurrence of postoperative complications, thereby providing a safe and effective treatment approach for patients with facial acne scars.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to have a link to the full article but the results of Dermabrasion + ReCell sound very promising.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00266-019-01481- 8" rel="external nofollow"> https://sci-hub.tw/https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00266-019-01481-8

48 minutes ago, PTAA said:

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00266-019-01481- 8" rel="external nofollow"> https://sci-hub.tw/https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00266-019-01481-8

That's a great website and thanks for sharing the link. The full paper provided an important caveat in using Recell for acne scars:

Quote

When the full thickness of the dermis is damaged, we have to explain to the patient that ReCell treatment is not effective in this situation [24]. However, ReCell has a certain effect when the superficial dermis or epidermis is damaged [25]. For patients who meet the inclusion criteria, it is recommended to choose a combination of ReCell technology with another treatment, for a better result.

It sounds like the procedure mainly works for scars that aren't too deep.

Yeah that's a pretty significant caveat. Excision is still the only true option for full thickness scars. Everything else is just minor, percentage improvements from what I see.

are there any pics provided in study article ???

i cant open the links....can somebody post the pics here please

On 8/31/2019 at 10:29 PM, Gits said:

That's a great website and thanks for sharing the link. The full paper provided an important caveat in using Recell for acne scars:

It sounds like the procedure mainly works for scars that aren't too deep.

They mean 2nd degree burns depth of skin.

What do you think of skinte?
I think it is a good alternative for narrow and deep ice pick scars.
How about the latest polarityte?

On 9/8/2019 at 2:25 PM, DinkumFridge said:

What do you think of skinte?
I think it is a good alternative for narrow and deep ice pick scars.
How about the latest polarityte?

SkinTE has not said anything or not much if their product will work with acne scars.Hey i heard a team of scientist was able to reverse aging in a mouse or something so you never know if something might come out.If i spend anymore money on acne scar treatments...i am going to wait until i see real results.

On 8/20/2019 at 7:52 AM, nikki_gargin said:

They say they are looking at late 2019 but maybe thats for anti aging purpose first as that trial is done. They have a lot of prerequisites like eg if you have had filler in the scar you need to wait two years post filler, 1 year post fat graft, so long after laser etc so read their patent it will tell you x

Here is a patent that describes micro coring devices. Is this the patent that you referred to?

12 hours ago, Brent21 said:

Here is a patent that describes micro coring devices. Is this the patent that you referred to?

Yes I have read it. They explain quite detailed what they can do in there.

On 8/13/2019 at 7:50 PM, damnBOY said:

full of the area will be treated with microcoring if scars are separated by healthy skin

Can microcoring only treat scar areas? Can you remove only the scars?

12 hours ago, DinkumFridge said:

 

Can microcoring only treat scar areas? Can you remove only the scars?

yes youcan

Is Micro Coring something that could achieve scarless healing ? , if that isn't the case then it's kind of pointless to talk about it

Check this site out

https://scarfree.org.uk/

I had contacted the stuff and from what i was told there maybe a break though in less than 5 years time , this website seems pretty professional and ethical.

With this , Sunogel , and many others working on scarless healing , it makes me somewhat optimistic.

7 hours ago, Scarcure said:

Is Micro Coring something that could achieve scarless healing ? , if that isn't the case then it's kind of pointless to talk about it

Check this site out

https://scarfree.org.uk/

I had contacted the stuff and from what i was told there maybe a break though in less than 5 years time , this website seems pretty professional and ethical.

With this , Sunogel , and many others working on scarless healing , it makes me somewhat optimistic.

Yes its out of a university in U.K. but forgot which one. They have a funded research project.

Cytrellis is no scarless healing as the scar is there and the device removes it without creating replacement scar. Its going to work for some people but not every case eg not large burns. If your scars are a low percentage of skin overall skin in that area then it may b pie for you. Results in November.

9 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:

Yes its out of a university in U.K. but forgot which one. They have a funded research project.

Cytrellis is no scarless healing as the scar is there and the device removes it without creating replacement scar. Its going to work for some people but not every case eg not large burns. If your scars are a low percentage of skin overall skin in that area then it may b pie for you. Results in November.

So It's not scarless healing ? .... so why is it being talked about in a scarless healing forum ?

Shouldn't it be on a scar treatment forum ?

3 hours ago, Scarcure said:

So It's not scarless healing ? .... so why is it being talked about in a scarless healing forum ?

Shouldn't it be on a scar treatment forum ?

Because it can remove scars, scarlessly. In some people remove their scars completely.But it is not scarless healing as in regeneration.

3 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:

Because it can remove scars, scarlessly. In some people remove their scars completely.But it is not scarless healing as in regeneration.

So in other words , the skin appendages are absent ? , but in theory this device can potentially remove theindents and bad skin texture ?

5 hours ago, Scarcure said:

So in other words , the skin appendages are absent ? , but in theory this device can potentially remove theindents and bad skin texture ?

Basically it can remove scar tissue by creating tiny wounds that dont scar and your surroundinghealthy skin takes over the place of the scar after those tiny wounds heal.

damnBoy has the most knowledge about this method so maybe he will explain it better

Btw anybody knows when are they planing to make microcoring available ?

2020?

49 minutes ago, AlexZ77 said:

Basically it can remove scar tissue by creating tiny wounds that dont scar and your surroundinghealthy skin takes over the place of the scar after those tiny wounds heal.

damnBoy has the most knowledge about this method so maybe he will explain it better

Btw anybody knows when are they planing to make microcoring available ?

2020?

That's actually amazingnews !! , am happy to hear that , and this is clinically proven to be the case ? also , can this work on nose scarring ?