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So here is that time of the year again...we're half way through the year and the question comes up again...
Will any of those companies that gave us hope that in 2019 they're moving forward with trials...are actually gonna give us any serious update and come out with something by the end of the year? 
16 hours ago, surgical scar said:So here is that time of the year again...we're half way through the year and the question comes up again...
Will any of those companies that gave us hope that in 2019 they're moving forward with trials...are actually gonna give us any serious update and come out with something by the end of the year?
Maybe in 100 years but surely nothing will happen in 2019. I have said this in the past, we struck out with our skin genes. Life is short, so make the best of it.
5 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:Have you tried fat grafting for your scars?
I've tried nothing really for scar treatments and I would like to share a bit of my personal insight on this.
I try to look past my skin woesbut sometimes I just look at the scars and think aboutall thepain they have caused me. About a few years ago, I had surgery to removelarge portions of diseasedhidredinitis skin on my groin and underarms. They added some tissue expanders on my thigh to use as skin grafts later on tominimize scarring. This helped mecontrol my hidredinitis. My buttocks however still breakoutseverally. They told me that a skin graft has limitedchances of success on that body part.I take several antibiotics to stop the spread of infection. At least, I would be pain free if they just do the stupid graft. I have several future consultations for surgery.
My back has several breakouts from folliculitis. As a teenager I had full on cystic acne on my upper arms, shoulders and back. Suffered untilmy late twenties and finally a derm diagnosed me with acne conglobata,a severe form of cystic acne which comes with multiple blackheads and boils. My shirts would fuse with my skin and it was hell. I went on ...tane, cleared my back extensively but now I am left with several slightly raised white scars all over and lots of hypopigmentation. About 15 years of boils will do irreparable damage to the skin. The folliculitis was probably exacerbated by the cysts and likelyan unwanted result of all the acne meds I took throughout my lifetime.
At a very young age, I was diagnosed with MRSA, multiple life threatening severe staph infections. The condition re-appearedwhen I was 14 with multplie red tender pimples that took months to heal. They know call it necrotizing fasciitis I believe but my parents acted quickly as to minimize the consequences of it. It seems, my body reacts violently to the normal staphylococcus bacteria which naturally occurs on everyone's skin. I take other stupid antibiotics for this to minimize the flare-ups often.
Icontinue to get small pimple clustersevery day on my body because of this stupid microbe.Shaving is a difficult task and i tend to avoid it because of the pimples that come after. They don't leave scars anymorebut they are painful and look like blisters. Not the mostattractive feature forthe opposite sex.
Every day, I spend time draining butt boils.There is no cure for hidredinitis other than cutting out the diseased skin.I avoid getting haircuts because I have another similar condition known as folliculitis nuchae. Although it is less severe than others, the condition comes with other boils behind the head. It has left me with minor although noticeable scarring.
My face has several pitts from cystic acne over the years but at least they are not that noticeable. So at least, there's that. However, I do get several face rashes for several weeks since I was a kid.My face is inflamed, flaky and red most of the time with severe dandruff. I also get severe eczema on my hands. It seems, I get an instant allergic reaction to most fabrics. Rosacea and contact dermatitis are daily conditions I have to deal with.
Bottom line, someone needs to replace my skin with a new one. I am waiting for some researchers to inject me with a magic potion and inducesome sort of skin regeneration. I tend to avoid going shirtless in public and I tend to tell women before I get intimate with them about my situation. My relationships do suffer because no woman wants to be burdened by my conditions. I struck out on the skin genes. Modern medicine can only do so much. Sometimes, I consider myself lucky and tell myself it could have been worse.
I am not wealthy enough to get scar treatments and although I did get an education with several honor degrees, I have never found anything in my field of studies for decadeswhile 99.99% of my former classmates make great salaries travelling the world, handling budgets, designing buildings, cars or who knows what with radiating flawless skin.I on the other hand, got stuck in retail/customer service making slightly above average salaries looking like a burn victim everyday. I feel as someone has blacklisted me somewhere, preventing me from going forward. So, life in general has been pretty lousy. The worst part, I blew away large sums of money towards a career that brought me nothing.
Believe me, my modest salary is not enough to spend on some wealthydermatologists who claim percentage scar improvements.Anyways, let's stay on topicand focuson scarless healing going forward.
7 hours ago, surgical scar said:Do people care that much about enjoying a smooth back view?
When will we get an update?
I suffer from hidredinitis. Search online and you will see how pleasant thatis before you make sarcastic statements, you are no better than all the trolls on here. There's no update to make.Go enjoy your life.
1 hour ago, MyBeautifulScars said:I suffer from hidredinitis. Search online and you will see how pleasant thatis before you make sarcastic statements, you are no better than all the trolls on here. There's no update to make.Go enjoy your life.
That wasn't sarcastic. That was a question. Maybe u should work on your sensitivities for better success.
58 minutes ago, Ravi.kumar.engineer said:Guys c'mon where do you all stay ???let's plan vacation or something to a common location . I know this won't fix anything for anyone , but may be few days of enjoyment without prejudgment . Even though we have scars , what we will remember at 60 ??
Would that be an intimate vacation? Because it seems that most people suffer from scars insecurities in intimate situations. Otherwise I don't think judgement of average people is crippling most people, granted it's not a self harm, self-inflicted scar
4 hours ago, surgical scar said:Would that be an intimate vacation? Because it seems that most people suffer from scars insecurities in intimate situations. Otherwise I don't think judgement of average people is crippling most people, granted it's not a self harm, self-inflicted scar
Lol for me the only guy concerned about my scar is my self , in my day to day life no body mention about my scars . Even at some point I have asked others to rate my scars , and they were just laughing . Lately I started socialising more , and I almost forgot about my scars.
37 minutes ago, Ravi.kumar.engineer said:Lol for me the only guy concerned about my scar is my self , in my day to day life no body mention about my scars . Even at some point I have asked others to rate my scars , and they were just laughing . Lately I started socialising more , and I almost forgot about my scars.
Thats how it should be. The only person who really cares about them are the person with them. Glad you are enjoying life more now
8 hours ago, surgical scar said:That wasn't sarcastic. That was a question. Maybe u should work on your sensitivities for better success.
I think you are the most pre-sentitive of us both.You are asking me for an update. What exactly do you want me to update you on? Why exactly are you here and if you are not so insecure about your skin, what are you doing here?
23 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:I've tried nothing really for scar treatments and I would like to share a bit of my personal insight on this.
I try to look past my skin woesbut sometimes I just look at the scars and think aboutall thepain they have caused me. About a few years ago, I had surgery to removelarge portions of diseasedhidredinitis skin on my groin and underarms. They added some tissue expanders on my thigh to use as skin grafts later on tominimize scarring. This helped mecontrol my hidredinitis. My buttocks however still breakoutseverally. They told me that a skin graft has limitedchances of success on that body part.I take several antibiotics to stop the spread of infection. At least, I would be pain free if they just do the stupid graft. I have several future consultations for surgery.
My back has several breakouts from folliculitis. As a teenager I had full on cystic acne on my upper arms, shoulders and back. Suffered untilmy late twenties and finally a derm diagnosed me with acne conglobata,a severe form of cystic acne which comes with multiple blackheads and boils. My shirts would fuse with my skin and it was hell. I went on ...tane, cleared my back extensively but now I am left with several slightly raised white scars all over and lots of hypopigmentation. About 15 years of boils will do irreparable damage to the skin. The folliculitis was probably exacerbated by the cysts and likelyan unwanted result of all the acne meds I took throughout my lifetime.
At a very young age, I was diagnosed with MRSA, multiple life threatening severe staph infections. The condition re-appearedwhen I was 14 with multplie red tender pimples that took months to heal. They know call it necrotizing fasciitis I believe but my parents acted quickly as to minimize the consequences of it. It seems, my body reacts violently to the normal staphylococcus bacteria which naturally occurs on everyone's skin. I take other stupid antibiotics for this to minimize the flare-ups often.
Icontinue to get small pimple clustersevery day on my body because of this stupid microbe.Shaving is a difficult task and i tend to avoid it because of the pimples that come after. They don't leave scars anymorebut they are painful and look like blisters. Not the mostattractive feature forthe opposite sex.
Every day, I spend time draining butt boils.There is no cure for hidredinitis other than cutting out the diseased skin.I avoid getting haircuts because I have another similar condition known as folliculitis nuchae. Although it is less severe than others, the condition comes with other boils behind the head. It has left me with minor although noticeable scarring.
My face has several pitts from cystic acne over the years but at least they are not that noticeable. So at least, there's that. However, I do get several face rashes for several weeks since I was a kid.My face is inflamed, flaky and red most of the time with severe dandruff. I also get severe eczema on my hands. It seems, I get an instant allergic reaction to most fabrics. Rosacea and contact dermatitis are daily conditions I have to deal with.
Bottom line, someone needs to replace my skin with a new one. I am waiting for some researchers to inject me with a magic potion and inducesome sort of skin regeneration. I tend to avoid going shirtless in public and I tend to tell women before I get intimate with them about my situation. My relationships do suffer because no woman wants to be burdened by my conditions. I struck out on the skin genes. Modern medicine can only do so much. Sometimes, I consider myself lucky and tell myself it could have been worse.
I am not wealthy enough to get scar treatments and although I did get an education with several honor degrees, I have never found anything in my field of studies for decadeswhile 99.99% of my former classmates make great salaries travelling the world, handling budgets, designing buildings, cars or who knows what with radiating flawless skin.I on the other hand, got stuck in retail/customer service making slightly above average salaries looking like a burn victim everyday. I feel as someone has blacklisted me somewhere, preventing me from going forward. So, life in general has been pretty lousy. The worst part, I blew away large sums of money towards a career that brought me nothing.
Believe me, my modest salary is not enough to spend on some wealthydermatologists who claim percentage scar improvements.Anyways, let's stay on topicand focuson scarless healing going forward.
Fat grafting actually helps regenerate tissue. Brings back the papillary dermis and elastic fibres. Its not a 100% cure but if your as cut up as you say you are, dont dismiss something you havent tried or researched. Fat grafting is classified regenerative medicine andit goesunder scars and in scars to remodel them.
2 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:Fat grafting actually helps regenerate tissue. Brings back the papillary dermis and elastic fibres. Its not a 100% cure but if your as cut up as you say you are, dont dismiss something you havent tried or researched. Fat grafting is classified regenerative medicine andit goesunder scars and in scars to remodel them.
can it regain pores in scar tissue if not follicles coz burn or trauma scars looks shiny and weires due to lack of pores
7 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:I think you are the most pre-sentitive of us both.You are asking me for an update. What exactly do you want me to update you on? Why exactly are you here and if you are not so insecure about your skin, what are you doing here?
Seems like you're going through mid-life crisis. Why do u have to keep replying to me if u don't know why I'm here? U seemed clear I was here for updates, no? Why do u reply if u don't want to update and want to tell us to go away for 100 years? The question is why are u here if you're not seeing a solution for the next 100 years, yet tell us so much about your skin and life issues and get upset when someone asks what you're talking about and then say go enjoy your life. Go enjoy your life for the next 100 years or get upset here when someone asks about your issues you write about.
7 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:Fat grafting actually helps regenerate tissue. Brings back the papillary dermis and elastic fibres. Its not a 100% cure but if your as cut up as you say you are, dont dismiss something you havent tried or researched. Fat grafting is classified regenerative medicine andit goesunder scars and in scars to remodel them.
What kind of fat grafting? I did fat graft under my scars because of depression. It raises the scarred area, but doesn't change the scar. Also, I don't have more fat to donate without causing a dip at the donor site.
https://images.app.goo.gl/hnF3mREdoWZ3JjPbA
an example. Is it perfect no. But nano fatgrafting they do into the dermis, not underneath and it remodels the scar tissue. And the research papers say realign collagen fibres into a normal pattern. Increase elastic fibres and under microscope reappearance of papillary dermis.
At present it is the only thing that changes scar tissue into more normal tissue. Until our miracles appear.
google fat grafting scar tissue. There is tons of papers.
15 hours ago, Anish004 said:can it regain pores in scar tissue if not follicles coz burn or trauma scars looks shiny and weires due to lack of pores
Not going to dignify this with an answer.
https://images.app.goo.gl/sgBgBRnWcMCCMu3y6
burns.
Nothing to date has shown me better results thanthis.
Agree with surgicalscar, far grafting raises the area but does not change the floor/edges difference. And fat dissolves quickly. It is unpredictable so you do not know how much is going to stay and how much would dissolve. In my case it dissolved completely in 3 month. So is there any tissue regeneration for such a short period? Even if thereis...the look of the scar staysthe same may be a bit more fuller..
16 hours ago, surgical scar said:Seems like you're going through mid-life crisis. Why do u have to keep replying to me if u don't know why I'm here? U seemed clear I was here for updates, no? Why do u reply if u don't want to update and want to tell us to go away for 100 years? The question is why are u here if you're not seeing a solution for the next 100 years, yet tell us so much about your skin and life issues and get upset when someone asks what you're talking about and then say go enjoy your life. Go enjoy your life for the next 100 years or get upset here when someone asks about your issues you write about.
What kind of fat grafting? I did fat graft under my scars because of depression. It raises the scarred area, but doesn't change the scar. Also, I don't have more fat to donate without causing a dip at the donor site.
If that makes you happy when you go to bed tonight, then my job is done here.
You should learn to build self confidence and look past your scars. I on the other hand have serious skin conditions that you will never have. I come here to read on the latest scar treatments. And yes I don't believe in a solution for many many years but I'm hopeful.
You on the other hand,continue to say that the treatment or this one is garbage, whose the most negative of the bunch? Man, your a joke. Good luck.
5 hours ago, Sibel said:Agree with surgicalscar, far grafting raises the area but does not change the floor/edges difference. And fat dissolves quickly. It is unpredictable so you do not know how much is going to stay and how much would dissolve. In my case it dissolved completely in 3 month. So is there any tissue regeneration for such a short period? Even if thereis...the look of the scar staysthe same may be a bit more fuller..
Im seeing a plastic surgeon about it on 20th. I have a surgical scarthat is stiff and restricts me so Im wanting it for functionas well asaesthetics. It should leave 40% of the fat injected if done properly. It also depends how its done to what effects you get. Read the research its all there in 20 papers or so. Its micro or nano fat grafting into the scar tissue itself that helps remodel it. Its a different thing.A surgeon on a video said it makes the scar like a bee hive, with it separated up with fat, improving function, feel and look. In the papers results were still very apparent a year after treatment.
9 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:Im seeing a plastic surgeon about it on 20th. I have a surgical scarthat is stiff and restricts me so Im wanting it for functionas well asaesthetics. It should leave 40% of the fat injected if done properly. It also depends how its done to what effects you get. Read the research its all there in 20 papers or so. Its micro or nano fat grafting into the scar tissue itself that helps remodel it. Its a different thing.A surgeon on a video said it makes the scar like a bee hive, with it separated up with fat, improving function, feel and look. In the papers results were still very apparent a year after treatment.
Where is the video?
41 minutes ago, beautifulambition said:
One of themwas done 13 years ago to be fair. The New York one. Also skill of the surgeon on this one must matter.
FYI
https://www.realself.com/question/bangalore-fat-grafting-face#3809366
https://www.realself.com/question/new-york-ny-lumpy-skin-fat-transfer-smoothed#1889598
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A: Fat Grafting Will Not Work For You
Fat grafting does not work well for acne scars for several reasons:
1. The fat is too soft to fill punctate holes in.
2. Fat that is harvested is biologically different from facial fat and can change over time if just placed under the skin. I do a ton of fat transfers and have written the book on it, Complementary Fat Grafting. You must understand the biologic nature of fat before advocating it.
3. Fat will not help color.
I prefer in your case (but would have to see you) treating it with CROSS or 100% TCA acid to burn up the tiny holes upward. To me that is a much better way to go. Nothing will be perfect with acne scars though. Just improvement.
best,
sml
Learn more: http://www.lamfacialplastics.com/procedures/skin-resurfacing-and-fillers/acne-scarring-correction/
Ok, here is some update. It's now more than 2,5 months since the fat transfer. I have to say that most of the fat is gone. There is one scar, that was quite moderate in the first place, that is still leveled. But on my worst scars: no improvement. One good thing there is though: the pigment around one scar has improved. Around one scar I had some pinkness, and that is gone now. I have thought that the pinkness was just some inflammation caused by laser, but now I think that lasers have just made my skin so thin, and that caused the pinkness.
So the sum it up: I don't regret having this operation, but the results are not as dramatic that I wished for.
And yeah, I certainly can't recommend liposuction for anyone. I had a bruise in my stomach for 2 months and I still can feel the channels under my skin where the fat was taken from. Luckily I can't really see them.
I don't think I'm willing to have this treatment anymore (mainly because the liposuction part was so unpleasant for me), but maybe this could be an option for someone who has tried everything and has a very thin skin and pigmentation issues.
jamesj: No, we didn't discuss that risk at all. The area that was treated was so small in the first place, so I really can't see that risk in my case. There was lumpiness that lasted for a week caused by swelling. The doctor has to know what he/she is doing, and not to do any overcorrection.
So where to go from here? Here is my plan: I'm going to get fillers (restylane or equivalent) as often as I need them AND have needling and/or fraxel+prp at the same time. I have thought that you can't have them done at the same time (that you can't get laser treatment if you have filler under your skin), but the doc said that this isn't a problem. It takes 2 days that the filler gets attached to your skin, and after that you can do needling or laser. I have never tried needling, so I'm going to discuss it with my dermatologist next week. She is doing needling with a tattoo gun type of device (mesotherapy). And I'll get a filler too, as soon as possible. Propably next week also.