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On 2/23/2019 at 4:57 PM, surgical scar said:Also,
Wrinkles are surrounded by healthy skin...
A tiny punch inside a scarred area is not surrounded by normal skin...
Where are the pictures for punches healing inside of a scarred area? Do you expect to get dots of normal leveled skin inside of scar patches?
Just to let you guys know there are secret forums going around on this site and you have some real jerks there trying to push certain products like microcoring. Reminds me a bit of SkinTE. I was added to such a conversation only to be removed because they want to silence me. This forum however is public, so I am posting this for everyone to see. Don't fall into traps. Scarless healing is for the future.
11 minutes ago, MyBeautifulScars said:Just to let you guys know there are secret forums going around on this site and you have some real jerks there trying to push certain products like microcoring. Reminds me a bit of SkinTE. I was added to such a conversation only to be removed because they want to silence me. This forum however is public, so I am posting this for everyone to see. Don't fall into traps. Scarless healing is for the future.
They believe you and anyone that is not them is secretly here with new IDs for over a decade trying to "gatekeep" and "keep people in the dark" about a secret 100% miracle cure, be it Polarity or who knows what now, that would save everyone completely if you didn't post or follow other trials that are actually going on now. Had a good laugh. XD
It's a good thing there is a private asylum for the few hallucinating ones, so they don't hog the public forum with their childish tantrums.
13 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:Just to let you guys know there are secret forums going around on this site and you have some real jerks there trying to push certain products like microcoring. Reminds me a bit of SkinTE. I was added to such a conversation only to be removed because they want to silence me. This forum however is public, so I am posting this for everyone to see. Don't fall into traps. Scarless healing is for the future.
Can you shareinformation about FS2? I missed it.
@MyBeautifulScars News about FS2 are very much appreciated. Any updates from their trials? While we follow news about actual scar solutions currently being tried for actual scars, let the triggered few "special ones" go wait and rot in their private asylum and spare this forum from trolling and their delusional tantrums
On 2/23/2019 at 9:40 PM, surgical scar said:Assuming microcoring does contract the skin without scar... what about the fat that is removed with it and won't get regenerated? It will be like a facelift without fat graft that ages your look. A youthful face is plump with fat.
As we will age by the time we do this procedure, we have already lost some fat in the face due to aging. I already plan to do fat transfer to the face for the most plump youthful appearance.
Fat loss in the face isn't pretty even if it's scar free.
It may not matter if you do one or few punches, but so many punches all over the face that will remove the fat irreversibly?
Exactly. If you core a piece of scar inside a scar you will just get contraction not regeneration. Fat like you said is gold dust and not having mine coredout thanks! Lol.
btw no one under 50 should do this really. It says itself it helps with excess skin in aging by removing 7% of it? Thats ALOT! If you heal that by contracture in young skin you will look more crap than before. Old acne scarred people I can see it helping but you need saggy skin.
fs2 I google weekly, nothing new as far as I know but no bad news either so all good. Fs2 and hydrogels are only decent things I seen.
10 hours ago, JackDoe said:Can you shareinformation about FS2? I missed it.
FS2 is a drug in development from a startup company knownas BirchBiomed. They are based in Vancouver, Canada. Researchers at UBC, University of British Columbia, stumbled upon some research doneyears ago focused around kynurenine acid, an amino acid byproduct.
It was proven way back since 1997, that this byproduct when applied topically on a freshwound had anti scarring properties and other potential health benefits.
There are currently two drugs in development, FS1and FS2. They are in clinical trials. FS1(fibrostop1)has the potential of reversing hair loss (this doesn't apply to male pattern baldness but other forms of alopecia) and halting juvenileor type 1 diabetes. The drug is to be taken orally.
FS2 when applied topically seems to reduceexisting scar tissue. It's makers claim also that scar tissue doesn't form in fresh wounds if the cream is applied from the beginning.
Both drugs are in phase 2 clinical trials in Canada and the US. We have to wait for the conclusion of both trials this summer before we can truly say that itis something revolutionary. Don't forget most drugs fail at this stage.
10 hours ago, surgical scar said:@MyBeautifulScars News about FS2 are very much appreciated. Any updates from their trials? While we follow news about actual scar solutions currently being tried for actual scars, let the triggered few "special ones" go wait and rot in their private asylum and spare this forum from trolling and their delusional tantrums
This drug can be a long due revolutionary medical innovation. I however don't believe it can help with atrophic scars which are those nasty pock marks we get after cysts heal. I believe it can do wonders for hypertrophic scars and keloids.
It can potentially break down the bundles of collagen buildup that give the scar its raised appearance. Over time, the scar becomes leveled with the surroundingskin. You still have a mark of some sorts of the original injury. I suppose it's better than having that nasty raised shiny scar. To what extent it can reduce existing scars nobody knows, even its makers can't say.
Here is more info about them however.
http://www.folliclethought.com/birch-biomed-therapies-for-scarring-alopecia-areata/
It may not be scarless healing but it's a start. Although it seemswhen applied fast on fresh wounds, no scar tissue is generated. This right here suggests that Sunogel has a direct competition.
I would like to share some info about OLX101. Another startup from South Korea. They seem to have found a way to switch off genes that keep scars going forever. They inject the scar with a serum and over time, the markfades. They are in phase 1 trials in the UK and phase 2 in South Korea. Hopefully, they don't fail.
Another yet similar product to FS2 is SCX-001. Apparently, nefopam also has anti scarring properties. They are in phase 1 clinical trials in North America.
1) Info to be found here:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03036306
2) Scarless Laboraties Inc. is another startup trying to push a peptide to improve scars. Recently given the green light to conduct phase 1 and phase 2 trials.
http://labusinessjournal.com/news/2018/oct/25/ucla-based-scarless-labs-wins-fda-approval-study-s/
3) Similar technology to OLX101
http://www.rxipharma.com/technology/rxi-109/
4) Sirnaomics have been given the green light for phase 2 clinical trials
We are surely getting there but it will take time.
Microcoring is targeting skin laxicity at best and I just don't see how scar tissue can heal scar free when excised. Microcoring is not scar free healing. We are simply not there yet.
On 2/23/2019 at 4:51 PM, FromScarredtoFree said:Microcoring has already had a full clinical trial in humans for wrinkles and was found to heal scar free and remove up to 5-7% of the total facial skin without scars. The size of the needle is incomparable to an excision biopsy, as it it 22 gauge. For reference a botox needle is often 30 gauge and a filler needle is 27 gauge. Currently it is in trials for acne scars which will end January of next year however they found in wrinkles it is completely safe and heals with no scarring. This is because small full thickness wounds the body chooses to heal with regeneration as opposed to scarring. Here is a picture from the wrinkle clinical trial for reference.
"From the Boston-based biotech company Cytrellis comes the world™s first dermal micro-coring device, an energy-free needling tool that mechanically drills out minuscule columns of skin”each less than half a millimeter in diameter”in a fractional pattern across the mid and lower face, scarlessly removing 5 to 7.5 percent of the total surface area to shrink the skin overall, explains New York City dermatologist Robert Anolik, MD, a researcher on the trials. œWe're using 22 gauge needles to core out the skin, so these excises are tiny," he says. (For reference, a Botox needle is typically 30 or 32 gauge, and a filler needle 27 or 30 gauge, with higher numbers indicating smaller needles.) "The gaps left behind then come together and heal up, triggering the remodeling phase of collagen for a firming effect, Dr. Anolik adds."
Uhm this is complete shit look at her jowel area, all the scars/wrinkles are still there as before. They've just moisturized her skin and changed the lighting. What a bunch of shit. iI mean this is even less effective than most lasers I've seen.
4 hours ago, Rez77 said:Uhm this is complete shit look at her jowelarea, all the scars/wrinkles are still there as before. They've just moisturized her skin and changed the lighting. What a bunch of shit. iI mean this is even less effective than most lasers I've seen.
I don't understand all the negativity. No one is forcing any of you to come here at gunpoint. If you don'tbelieve in scarless healing or like reading about future technology stop coming here. All I said was we should wait until the trials finish until we jump to conclusions, and I said the same thing about Skinte. To me that pictures looks significantly better. The jowl area is difficult to fix because its the most heavily affected by gravity,fat loss, and movement.
Serious question though Rezz, aren't you in your 50s? At your age do you not have more important things to worry about other than your skin? Like maybe your kids, grandkids, wife, or your work life? I've yet to meet a 50 year old man who didn't have liver spots, wrinkles, pockmarks, etc. I'm just wondering why you feel the need to come here consistently and be so negative and then wonder why no one posts here anymore. I don't want to seem mean when I say this but I think you should consider therapy because scarring is significantly distressing you. Last year I was 22 and my scars bothered me a lot but as I matured I slowly realized there are much more important things to worry about than skin. Therapy helped me a lot with this. It isn't a sign of weakness to get help when you need it, in fact it's what a brave person does. Don't get me wrong I still don't like my scars and would like for scarless healing to come in my lifetime, which is why I still post here despite all the negativity. But honestly at your stage of life you should realize that there are much worse things than some pock marks on your face (and from your pictures yours don't even seem that bad to me) when there are people who are literally having bombs dropped on them as we speak or are completely paralyzed from the neck down.
13 hours ago, FromScarredtoFree said:I don't understand all the negativity. No one is forcing any of you to come here at gunpoint. If you don'tbelieve in scarless healing or like reading about future technology stop coming here. All I said was we should wait until the trials finish until we jump to conclusions, and I said the same thing about Skinte. To me that pictures looks significantly better. The jowl area is difficult to fix because its the most heavily affected by gravity,fat loss, and movement.
Serious question though Rezz, aren't you in your 50s? At your age do you not have more important things to worry about other than your skin? Like maybe your kids, grandkids, wife, or your work life? I've yet to meet a 50 year old man who didn't have liver spots, wrinkles, pockmarks, etc. I'm just wondering why you feel the need to come here consistently and be so negative and then wonder why no one posts here anymore. I don't want to seem mean when I say this but I think you should consider therapy because scarring is significantly distressing you. Last year I was 22 and my scars bothered me a lot but as I matured I slowly realized there are much more important things to worry about than skin. Therapy helped me a lot with this. It isn't a sign of weakness to get help when you need it, in fact it's what a brave person does. Don't get me wrong I still don't like my scars and would like for scarless healing to come in my lifetime, which is why I still post here despite all the negativity. But honestly at your stage of life you should realize that there are much worse things than some pock marks on your face (and from your pictures yours don't even seem that bad to me) when there are people who are literally having bombs dropped on them as we speak or are completely paralyzed from the neck down.
It's an open forum to discuss about new medical innovations when it comes to scarring. We cannot put allour eggs in the same basket. With everything out there currently in clinical trials, nobody should attempt to push a certain technique with bogus claims on anyone. This forum should remain impartial and transparent.I believe there are privateforums that people can discuss about some startups, themtrying to give us false hopesbecause they have a hidden agenda.
It's funny how months later, the same posterswith bulletproof evidence about a new breakthrough vanish leaving usdisappointed. We need to be realistic. Many people want to make top dollar out of this and will go to great extents.
There is probably one true way of achieving scarless healing, that is a topical cream applied on a scar that will gradually reduce it. The other way would be to reprogram scar tissue into normal looking skin again. It's that simple.
Microcoring doesn't do that. Microcoring injures the skin, the skin contracts and you get less skin. It's great for wrinkles. For scars, not so much. You have to be a fool to spent money on microcoring if you want to achieve scarless healing. The technique is already used by derms who excise large chunks of scarredskin only to stitch the gap back together using techniques to minimize new scar tissue. Dermabrasion and microneedling do the same anyways, injurethe skin and miraculouslythe scars/wrinkles are minimized because new collagen fills in the tiny holes.
You have many startups and researchers that are doing just that, developing topical creams and finding ways to reprogram scar tissue. Hopefully, something comes out from these people that will eliminate scars once and for all.
Let's keep this forum clean, impartial and transparent. Scarring affects people in different ways and we shouldn't be judging them.
What trials should we wait for? Wrinkles trials? I thought we follow scar trials. They don't even have plans for scar trials...but sure you wait for it
And how fantastic would it be to pay for repeated procedures coring out a wide area of healthy skin and FAT that won't get regenerated, and it won't get out most of the scar in the end...
That's what we should live for undoubtedly if we don't want to be called "gatekeepers" by a certain disturbed special one in hiding
58 minutes ago, MyBeautifulScars said:It's an open forum to discuss about new medical innovations when it comes to scarring. We cannot put allour eggs in the same basket. With everything out there currently in clinical trials, nobody should attempt to push a certain technique with bogus claims on anyone. This forum should remain impartial and transparent.I believe there are privateforums that people can discuss about some startups, themtrying to give us false hopesbecause they have a hidden agenda.
It's funny how months later, the same posterswith bulletproof evidence about a new breakthrough vanish leaving usdisappointed.
I wanna know where are the people in 2017 through 2018 who swore Polarity was coming out with magic injectables that would propagate into existing scars, even without cell harvest!
Or the ones who wanted to inject SkinTE's thick paste into tiny wounds created by subcision and microneedling LOL
14 hours ago, FromScarredtoFree said:Serious question though Rezz, aren't you in your 50s? At your age do you not have more important things to worry about other than your skin? Like maybe your kids, grandkids, wife, or your work life? I've yet to meet a 50 year old man who didn't have liver spots, wrinkles, pockmarks, etc. I'm just wondering why you feel the need to come here consistently and be so negative and then wonder why no one posts here anymore. I don't want to seem mean when I say this but I think you should consider therapy because scarring is significantly distressing you.
How did you figure he's in his 50's and how is it relevant? Why do you drag in personal attacks and shaming?
I can see the depressed scarred circle with margins right there even in their tricky lightning picture. Definitely worse than acne scars and average scars.
3 hours ago, surgical scar said:How did you figure he's in his 50's and how is it relevant? Why do you drag in personal attacks and shaming?
I didn't attack anyone. I asked him a very reasonable question on why a man who is well into his adulthood feels the need to constantly attack people online. Have you seen his posts? He's bullied so many people to the point that they don't post here anymore. Tano1 had some of the mostinformative posts on this board but he no longer posts because of Rez's constant insults and attacks. If reading about hypotheticalscarless healing makes him so upset he should do the mature thing for someone his age and log off. I gave him very good advice to see a therapist. A man of his age being so fixated on his appearance suggests that he has serious underling problems that won't get fixed by posting on an internet forum. It may not have been the nicest thing to say but it's the truth. I wish someone told me the same thing when I started posting here.
5 minutes ago, FromScarredtoFree said:I didn't attack anyone. I asked him a very reasonable question on why a man who is well into his adulthood feels the need to constantly attack people online. Have you seen his posts? He's bullied so many people to the point that they don't post here anymore. Tano01 had some of the mosts informative posts on this board but he no longer posts because of Rez's constant insults and attacks. If reading about hypotheticalscarless healing makes him so upset he should do the mature thing for someone his age and log off.
The "T" guy was one of the most obnoxious arrogant ones who created tantrums when everyone didn't clap for his pseudo insight, and got at least 1 or 2 users that I remember to leave. He was constantly shilling for Polarity being truly totally scarless and claimed even the doctors that said otherwise were wrong because there was no way SkinTE with its total removal of tension, according to him, allowed scars. He was also one of those that spread the falsehood that SkinTE propagated into existing scars and made them fade!
Since he lost his Polarity crap in mid 2018 he vanished into thin air. It wasn't because of anybody but it was because of his own sheer embarrassment and loss that he went into hiding...he even disappeared from private chat. Good riddance. I was thinking how much this forum has been constructive and peaceful since he left with his self-aggrandizing bs and annoying attitude.
34 minutes ago, surgical scar said:The "T" guy was one of the most obnoxious arrogant ones who created tantrums when everyone didn't clap for his pseudo insight, and got at least 1 or 2 users that I remember to leave. He was constantly shilling for Polarity being truly totally scarless and claimed even the doctors that said otherwise were wrong because there was no way SkinTE with its total removal of tension, according to him, allowed scars. He was also one of those that spread the falsehood that SkinTE propagated into existing scars and made them fade!
Since he lost his Polarity crap in mid 2018 he vanished into thin air. It wasn't because of anybody but it was because of his own sheer embarrassment and loss that he went into hiding...he even disappeared from private chat. Good riddance. I was thinking how much this forum has been constructive and peaceful since he left with his self-aggrandizing bs and annoying attitude.
Well I disagree. I think compared to Rezz Tano was very polite and put effort into his posts for Rezz to post laughing emojis and call him delusional. We didn't know much at that point and Tano was trying to be optimistic. Is saying that scarless healing will come in 5-10 years optimistic? Yes, I think it is looking at the glass half full. It definitely is a possibility though. But does being optimistic hurt anyone? Even if we are being delusional like Nikkigirl and Rezz say, who are we hurting by this? It's not a life or death situation in which we need to make a will or something. My message has always been focus on something other than your scars and things will find a way to work themselves out eventually. I know some people will call me a liar for saying this but I've seen a huge improvement in my scars without doing anything, just by not getting acne. The skin is a constantly renewing organ and we still do not understand all it's secrets. Also consider it's very difficult and expensive to get a study to look at long termeffects of things, even well funded things like heart disease or cancer. Some of our best data on things like heart disease still have serious holes in them, like the Framinghamheart study for example because its so hard to do long term followups.
Rezz has alsothreatened to kill himself several times. He needs help. For a teenager to be upset by their acne scars I understand. But past 30 or so you should understand that there are more important things in life than having perfect skin. This may be shocking but there are plenty of people who have perfect skin and aren't happy with their appearance for one reason or another. On the flip side there are plenty ofpeople that aren't supermodels and they live perfectly happy lives. I have worse acne scars than Rezz in my opinion but I've never brought anyone on this site down for it. I gave Rezz very good advice and I hope he takes it because I understand how he feels.
4 hours ago, surgical scar said:What trials should we wait for? Wrinkles trials? I thought we follow scar trials. They don't even have plans for scar trials...but sure you wait for it
Here is the trial in question. If you're going to be so rude you can at least put 2 seconds of effort into a google search. Maybe if you can't fact check basic info you shouldn't be posting on a science board as an authority.
28 minutes ago, surgical scar said:Since he lost his Polarity crap in mid 2018 he vanished into thin air.
Um No, he actually admitted he was wrong and said he's making a private forum because he was sick of how rude people like Rezz were to him. He actually said in his last posts he hopes polarity fails for lying so he definitely was not a shill. But keep blaming your problems on people posting on an online forum I'm sure that will get you far in life and give you the perfect skin you want 
33 minutes ago, FromScarredtoFree said:Um No, he actually admitted he was wrong and said he's making a private forum because he was sick of how rude people like Rezz were to him. He actually said in his last posts he hopes polarity fails for lying so he definitely was not a shill. But keep blaming your problems on people posting on an online forum I'm sure that will get you far in life and give you the perfect skin you want
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What you're on about? I don't have a problem and when did I blame "my problems" on anyone? You're the one who is blaming others for posting online and personally shaming them.
If you know where the rude "T" is hiding and miss him go join him. We don't miss him. I'm ecstatic 
I have perfect skin on my face by the way. Just wanted to say that as a burn since you're worried about my perfect skin and problems and life and so much more you seem to know better than me 
4 hours ago, surgical scar said:How did you figure he's in his 50's and how is it relevant? Why do you drag in personal attacks and shaming?
yeah how did you figure I was in my 50s? That really made me chuckle! And even if I was, wouldn't that give me more less life to live with
scar freehealing making it MORE urgent!? I'll tell you the truth, I'm not in my 50s, I'm actually 74. And I have fourteen grand kidsall who have
suffered from terrible acne scars. I'M HERE FOR THEM DAMMIT!!!!
29 minutes ago, surgical scar said:I have perfect skin on my face by the way. Just wanted to say that as a burn since you're worried about my perfect skin and problems and life and so much more you seem to know better than me
Since you're so happy why don't you stop coming here? You are clearly a very unhappy person . Unlike you I don't base my self worth on my skin. Maybe you and Rezz deep down are just jealous that younger people have access to things you didn't and medicine will only improve for us. If thet's the case I'm very sorry and I wish medicine advanced faster. But there's no point in crying over spilt milk. The American military just invested millions of dollars into scarless healing. You can yell at me or Tano or golfpanther all you want but it's going to happen soon.
20 minutes ago, Rez77 said:yeah how did you figure I was in my 50s? That really made me chuckle! And even if I was, wouldn't that give me more less life to live with
scar free healing making it MORE urgent!? I'll tell you the truth, I'm not in my 50s, I'm actually 74. And I have fourteen grand kids all who have
suffered from terrible acne scars. I'M HERE FOR THEM DAMMIT!!!!
If you are seriously a 74 man who has 14 grandchildren threatening suicide over acne scars you need help. Show you grandchildren a good example and teach them that life is more than looking good. Do you expect to have smooth skin like Justin Bieber at 74? Do you think anyone cares what your skin looks like at 74? I hope you and surgical scar find whatever peace you need.
18 minutes ago, FromScarredtoFree said:Since you're so happy why don't you stop coming here? You are clearly a very unhappy person
Come to be entertained by those who still don't get that I don't have acne scars? How did you get that my worth is my skin?
Ok enough trolling these pages
8 minutes ago, surgical scar said:Come to be entertained by those who still don't get that I don't have acne scars? How did you get that my worth is my skin?
Ok enough trolling these pages
You cussed out almost everyone who posts here for no reason. Whether it's me, golf panther, or Tano. You post on here more often than anyone. You've talked about how you wasted your life waiting for a cure. I'm going to go out on a limb and say scarring bugs you whether or not you want to admit it. I hope you and Rezz have fun sulking in your bitterness. Maybe you guys can move into the same nursing home and knit sweaters together or something. You guys can even go get filler and botox together for your wrinkles LOL. I just hope when I'm your guys' age I'll won't be cussing out people on an internet forum. On the bright side maybe you'll get Alzheimer's soon and forget where your surgical scar is. Anyways I think I overstayed my welcome here.
27 minutes ago, FromScarredtoFree said:Maybe you and Rezz deep down are just jealous that younger people have access to things you didn't and medicine will only improve for us. If thet's the case I'm very sorry and I wish medicine advanced faster. But there's no point in crying over spilt milk.
"Younger people"? Do you have some age crystal ball and are you some kind of a jealousy/unhappiness wizard? Do you know how much younger than you I look because of my perfect face and acne free skin?
I am amused but I don't think everyone is as much entertained as me if you keep the trolling going
34 minutes ago, FromScarredtoFree said:The American military just invested millions of dollars into scarless healing.
American military is busy stealing trillions of tax money to blow up people and sending over poor people to get their limbs blown off for them. I'm sure they're very concerned about scars...You fail at assessments
5 minutes ago, surgical scar said:"Younger people"? Do you have some age crystal ball and are you some kind of a jealousy/unhappiness wizard? Do you know how much younger than you I look because of my perfect face and acne free skin?
I am amused but I don't think everyone is as much entertained as me if you keep the trolling going
American military is busy stealing trillions of tax money to blow up people and sending over poor people to get their limbs blown off for them. I'm sure they're very concerned about scars...You fail at assessments
Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night 
Just don't get to worked up I wouldn't want your blood pressure too high. Also try to not slip in he shower lol. Since you're so young looking why don't you post a picture so we can all awe in your "perfect face"? Are you too scared? If you're so young looking why did you talk so much about your wrinkles. It doesn't take a crystal ball to realize someone who spends all his time attacking people online is seriously unhappy, and he has driven out everyone of his life so the only people he can spread is negativity to are online.
10 minutes ago, FromScarredtoFree said:You cussed out almost everyone who posts here for no reason.
Seems like you have a very amusing definition of cussing that moderators did not detect
Haven't been "T" and "GP" dead for some time? Why are you invoking their ghosts? Are you feeling that alone 
Is your trolling tirade over yet? Like I said I'm entertained and don't want to get moderators into this...but you're pushing it with your meltdown and continued bizarre attacking marathon on everyone in your way
Just curious did your therapist put you on pills?...seems like a massive malfunction
1 minute ago, FromScarredtoFree said:If you're so young looking why did you talk so much about your wrinkles.
I talked about "my" wrinkles? You posted pictures of wrinkles and you're the one following trials on wrinkles... and I took you to school about them and said I don't need to core out my perfect skin and fat to look aged...
You're very struggling with reading comprehension
Go to bed kid...trolling ride is over