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16 minutes ago, MyBeautifulScars said:Nobody is looking for re-assurance. I've have mentioned thisbefore,you cannot say anything about Sunogel until clinical trials are underway and we truly see its potential. Stop re-igniting an old debate which you clearly lost.
It seems the only person looking for re-assurance isonly you unfortunately. You aretrying to promote a product which states scarless healing in theory only but has yet to be tested or proven. Stop assuming or claiming false information without facts. A few published papers by its maker, Dr. Sun, and a pic of a finger cut that is less than a cm are not enough to prove the effectiveness of the product itself without real results.
You are no better than all the other posters who were once talking about Polarity, Recell, etc. and how revolutionary they were. Stop giving out false hopes. If you feel like discrediting other posters by claiming they are looking for re-assurance, I've got news for you, you make yourself look bad. Also, claiming that the product should work because the scientist behind it has a burden does not hold.
I do not wish to argue with you any further regarding this topic. You can assume many things but at the end, we both just want our acne scars to be eliminated. Unfortunately, you want back the baby skin you were born with and that you will never achieve even with scarless healing.
If something states 'complete regeneration'/scar free healing in its information, like sunogel does then that something has a scientific/engineering burden to upkeep. I will keep referencing that scientific/engineering burden for them publically... You see, this is simple, I want people like this to be funded, I want them to progress 'fast,' very fast... I will also not be wasting my time talking about the 'future' or alternative percentage improvement products to scar free healing on a scar free healing message board; whilst at the same time pretending the burden is much lower than 'scar free healing,' as doing this would be akin to watching paint dry...
On 12/27/2018 at 4:18 AM, Anish004 said:have anyone ever talked to dr sun about the expected timeline for sunogel release in market
As per their website, they are presentlyin pre-clinical trials for WizGel DX1 until the third quarter of 2019. They are planning to go to clinical trials as of late 2019, I believe. Their product is intended for pre-existing scarsand full thickness wounds(my guess second and third degree burns).
They also developped WizGel DX2 for diabetic wounds. They are planning to launch products for other cosmetic considerations.
This is something you can read on their website. No need to talk to Dr. Sun directly. So you just have to be patient.
15 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:As per their website, they are presentlyin pre-clinical trials for WizGel DX1 until the third quarter of 2019. They are planning to go to clinical trials as of late 2019, I believe. Their product is intended for pre-existing scarsand full thickness wounds(my guess second and third degree burns).
They also developped WizGel DX2 for diabetic wounds. They are planning to launch products for other cosmetic considerations.
This is something you can read on their website. No need to talk to Dr. Sun directly. So you just have to be patient.
we all know about trials but we want to know what time he expect for release of sunogel ..
I wish all you guys Happy New Year, by the time the 2029 will come we wont have any scars
On 12/31/2018 at 6:35 AM, Anish004 said:we all know about trials but we want to know what time he expect for release of sunogel ..
Without a trial there is no release of sunogel so no one here will know this. If only!
2029 Ill be 41 lol please be before then.
fs2 however they want OTC release within a year from now. So we can actually curiously look forward to this for now. It is the first ever drug for molecular scarring so...a lot to celebrate here I feel. We are lucky to be alive now.
If sunogel proves successful in trails that start in 2019 then I see it beign possible by 2022
Btw anybody knows what happend to SkinTE ? Did it fail completely? Did it achive better resultsthan skin grafting for burn patients? Are they trying to improve it ? Whats going on with them exacly?
1 hour ago, AlexaderZ77 said:If sunogel proves successful in trails that start in 2019 then I see it beign possible by 2022
Btw anybody knows what happend to SkinTE ? Did it fail completely? Did it achive better resultsthan skin grafting for burn patients? Are they trying to improve it ? Whats going on with them exacly?
As stated previously, they are still around. They have been adopted by a hospital based in Cleveland as a standard wound treatment.
They have posted some pictures on their website of some patient's progress who got SkinTE instead of regular skin grafts. Those pics are not scarless healing though. You can download the pics and judge on your own:
https://www.polarityte.com/products/skinTE-providers
They have slick brochures, moving ahead to commercialization and keep changing their wording about scarless healing. I think they have fallen out of favor with most on here. They seem to become an alternative to skin grafts and can help many people with chronic wounds or burn victims. However, Recell just got approved in the US, so they might have fierce competition.
1 hour ago, nikki_gargin said:Without a trial there is no release of sunogel so no one here will know this. If only!
2029 Ill be 41 lol please be before then.
fs2 however they want OTC release within a year from now. So we can actually curiously look forward to this for now. It is the first ever drug for molecular scarring so...a lot to celebrate here I feel. We are lucky to be alive now.
I hope FS2 will be available within the next 12 months as an over the counter cream. It's not scarless healing though as they don't mention anything about pore, melanocyte and hair regeneration which are essential to healthy skin. They found that kynurenine acid which is what FS2 contains reduces scar tissue but we don't know how much improvement can be obtained. They do mention that FS2 prevents scarringin new wounds however.
We also have OLX101. Clinical results should be releasednext year with the conclusion of a trial in the UK. Some researchers in South Korea seem to have found an injectable serumfor hypertrophic scars which decreases the sizeby deactivating a gene allowing these scars to keep going.Hopefully by next fall, Sunogel goes into clinical trials for their first hydrogel, WizGel DX1.
Most of my scars are the direct result of cystic acne on my shoulders, upper arms and sides of my back for more than a decade. The lesions healed and the hyperpigmentation is gone. Taking Accutane in your thirtiesis pretty lame. I took it last year finally and got my skin back.No more blackheads, painful cysts and whiteheads. I should have taken it earlier.
Now, I have lots of hypopigmentation (white marks) on the skin which haven't faded over the years and clustersof hypertrophic scarring (these are slightly raised white spots, they go by other names like follicular macular atrophy, perifolicullar elastolysis or papular hypertrophic scarring). Also, i have some of these on my jawline and when I shave they are noticeable under different lightning. My face has also some pitting but it is hardly noticeable.
I have some other scars from several accidents. These are few and something I am proud of. They make good stories to tell. But those acne scars I would love to rid myself of one day. I will be in my forties also in a decade so I hope something comes out by 2022 which will solve my acne scarringtroubles.
5 minutes ago, MyBeautifulScars said:As stated previously, they are still around. They have been adopted by a hospital based in Cleveland as a standard wound treatment.
They have posted some pictures on their website of some patient's progress who got SkinTE instead of regular skin grafts. Those pics are not scarless healing though. You can download the pics and judge on your own:
https://www.polarityte.com/products/skinTE-providers
They have slick brochures, moving ahead to commercialization and keep changing their wording about scarless healing. I think they have fallen out of favor with most on here. They seem to become an alternative to skin grafts and can help many people with chronic wounds or burn victims. However, Recell just got approved in the US, so they might have fierce competition.
I hope FS2 will be available within the next 12 months as an over the counter cream. It's not scarless healing though as they don't mention anything about pore, melanocyte and hair regeneration which are essential to healthy skin. They found that kynurenine acid which is what FS2 contains reduces scar tissue but we don't know how much improvement can be obtained. They do mention that FS2 prevents scarringin new wounds however.
We also have OLX101. Clinical results should be releasednext year with the conclusion of a trial in the UK. Some researchers in South Korea seem to have found an injectable serumfor hypertrophic scars which decreases the sizeby deactivating a gene allowing these scars to keep going.Hopefully by next fall, Sunogel goes into clinical trials for their first hydrogel, WizGel DX1.
Most of my scars are the direct result of cystic acne on my shoulders, upper arms and sides of my back for more than a decade. The lesions healed and the hyperpigmentation is gone. Taking Accutane in your thirtiesis pretty lame. I took it last year finally and got my skin back.No more blackheads, painful cysts and whiteheads. I should have taken it earlier.
Now, I have lots of hypopigmentation (white marks) on the skin which haven't faded over the years and clustersof hypertrophic scarring (these are slightly raised white spots, they go by other names like follicular macular atrophy, perifolicullar elastolysis or papular hypertrophic scarring). Also, i have some of these on my jawline and when I shave they are noticeable under different lightning. My face has also some pitting but it is hardly noticeable.
I have some other scars from several accidents. These are few and something I am proud of. They make good stories to tell. But those acne scars I would love to rid myself of one day. I will be in my forties also in a decade so I hope something comes out by 2022 which will solve my acne scarringtroubles.
Wow, you seem very informed. We need more people like you on this thread and im thankfull youre here to give us information about current situation.
I would be extremely happy if we get scarless healing product by 2022 couse ill be 32 by then so still a long life to enjoy.
10 minutes ago, AlexaderZ77 said:Wow, you seem very informed. We need more people like you on this thread and im thankfull youre here to give us information about current situation.
I would be extremely happy if we get scarless healing product by 2022 couse ill be 32 by then so still a long life to enjoy.
I just browse the Internet and this forum reading about the latest research on scarless healing. It's an exciting time because scientists are pushing towards regenerative medicine. They have made great progress in regenerating teeth, skin, other organs and limbs in labs. However, certain individuals who risk losing big will hide behind ethics and morals preventingregenerative medicine from going to the next level. When it comes to scarring, it is not a disease but rather a cosmetic issue except if those scars are of a health concern. Finding cures to diseases is the top priority and will remain so for now anyways.
52 minutes ago, MyBeautifulScars said:As stated previously, they are still around. They have been adopted by a hospital based in Cleveland as a standard wound treatment.
They have posted some pictures on their website of some patient's progress who got SkinTE instead of regular skin grafts. Those pics are not scarless healing though. You can download the pics and judge on your own:
https://www.polarityte.com/products/skinTE-providers
They have slick brochures, moving ahead to commercialization and keep changing their wording about scarless healing. I think they have fallen out of favor with most on here. They seem to become an alternative to skin grafts and can help many people with chronic wounds or burn victims. However, Recell just got approved in the US, so they might have fierce competition.
I hope FS2 will be available within the next 12 months as an over the counter cream. It's not scarless healing though as they don't mention anything about pore, melanocyte and hair regeneration which are essential to healthy skin. They found that kynurenine acid which is what FS2 contains reduces scar tissue but we don't know how much improvement can be obtained. They do mention that FS2 prevents scarringin new wounds however.
We also have OLX101. Clinical results should be releasednext year with the conclusion of a trial in the UK. Some researchers in South Korea seem to have found an injectable serumfor hypertrophic scars which decreases the sizeby deactivating a gene allowing these scars to keep going.Hopefully by next fall, Sunogel goes into clinical trials for their first hydrogel, WizGel DX1.
Most of my scars are the direct result of cystic acne on my shoulders, upper arms and sides of my back for more than a decade. The lesions healed and the hyperpigmentation is gone. Taking Accutane in your thirtiesis pretty lame. I took it last year finally and got my skin back.No more blackheads, painful cysts and whiteheads. I should have taken it earlier.
Now, I have lots of hypopigmentation (white marks) on the skin which haven't faded over the years and clustersof hypertrophic scarring (these are slightly raised white spots, they go by other names like follicular macular atrophy, perifolicullar elastolysis or papular hypertrophic scarring). Also, i have some of these on my jawline and when I shave they are noticeable under different lightning. My face has also some pitting but it is hardly noticeable.
I have some other scars from several accidents. These are few and something I am proud of. They make good stories to tell. But those acne scars I would love to rid myself of one day. I will be in my forties also in a decade so I hope something comes out by 2022 which will solve my acne scarringtroubles.
Allergan purchased Elastagen for 95 million last year after they finished their acne scar clinical trial. Would be interesting to see what product they bring to the market.
25 minutes ago, Binga said:
Allergan purchased Elastagen for 95 million last year after they finished their acne scar clinical trial. Would be interesting to see what product they bring to the market.
It is something I have talked about previously.
"New topline data was presented on the use of TE-HA, the hydrogel containing recombinant tropoelastin, gained as part of Allergan's acquisition of Elastagen, for the treatment of adult patients with acne scars. At 6 months, 21 of 27 (78%) patients reported improvements in acne scar appearance. TE-HA also demonstrated significant reduction in acne scar depth and volume compared to the control group."
4 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:As stated previously, they are still around. They have been adopted by a hospital based in Cleveland as a standard wound treatment.
They have posted some pictures on their website of some patient's progress who got SkinTE instead of regular skin grafts. Those pics are not scarless healing though. You can download the pics and judge on your own:
https://www.polarityte.com/products/skinTE-providers
They have slick brochures, moving ahead to commercialization and keep changing their wording about scarless healing. I think they have fallen out of favor with most on here. They seem to become an alternative to skin grafts and can help many people with chronic wounds or burn victims. However, Recell just got approved in the US, so they might have fierce competition.
I hope FS2 will be available within the next 12 months as an over the counter cream. It's not scarless healing though as they don't mention anything about pore, melanocyte and hair regeneration which are essential to healthy skin. They found that kynurenine acid which is what FS2 contains reduces scar tissue but we don't know how much improvement can be obtained. They do mention that FS2 prevents scarringin new wounds however.
We also have OLX101. Clinical results should be releasednext year with the conclusion of a trial in the UK. Some researchers in South Korea seem to have found an injectable serumfor hypertrophic scars which decreases the sizeby deactivating a gene allowing these scars to keep going.Hopefully by next fall, Sunogel goes into clinical trials for their first hydrogel, WizGel DX1.
Most of my scars are the direct result of cystic acne on my shoulders, upper arms and sides of my back for more than a decade. The lesions healed and the hyperpigmentation is gone. Taking Accutane in your thirtiesis pretty lame. I took it last year finally and got my skin back.No more blackheads, painful cysts and whiteheads. I should have taken it earlier.
Now, I have lots of hypopigmentation (white marks) on the skin which haven't faded over the years and clustersof hypertrophic scarring (these are slightly raised white spots, they go by other names like follicular macular atrophy, perifolicullar elastolysis or papular hypertrophic scarring). Also, i have some of these on my jawline and when I shave they are noticeable under different lightning. My face has also some pitting but it is hardly noticeable.
I have some other scars from several accidents. These are few and something I am proud of. They make good stories to tell. But those acne scars I would love to rid myself of one day. I will be in my forties also in a decade so I hope something comes out by 2022 which will solve my acne scarringtroubles.
For the flat hypopigmented acne scars have you thought of micropigmentation tattooing? For now just to see if it helps? I plan too try it once my scar is mature and flat.
yeah i feel this decade is a new one for science. They are getting somewhere from no where in reality. I think people think this science is easy and want it NOW. Im happy to wait because I would of be fucked 10 years ago and I know it!
Pray for the scientists people LOL. Angels on earth.
40 minutes ago, nikki_gargin said:For the flat hypopigmented acne scars have you thought of micropigmentation tattooing? For now just to see if it helps? I plan too try it once my scar is mature and flat.
yeah i feel this decade is a new one for science. They are getting somewhere from no where in reality. I think people think this science is easy and want it NOW. Im happy to wait because I would of be fucked 10 years ago and I know it!
Pray for the scientists people LOL. Angels on earth.
Many of those white patchesare slightly raised for me. I have about 1000+ of white or slightly raised white lesions clustered together on parts of my upper arms, covering large portions of my shoulderblades and sides of my back. I also have a few in the area between the shoulders andneck,they arefar less noticeable. The right side of my backis pretty badly scarred. I don't have any in the middle of my back and if I do, they are sporadic and nothing to cry over.
I don't take off my shirt in public. Guys don't go walking around shirtless displaying a scarred pimply back necessarily. The consequences of untreated cystic acne that plagued me for years. My friends would often tease me that I was on steroids.
I would have constant episodes of remission and flare ups during my adolescence and young adult years. The scars are probably from the first episode when I was 14. Then Ihad another episode at 17 mostly on my middle and lower back.My skin took years to heal. It was puffy and red for years.I would get occasional cysts until last year when I finally decided to take Accutane. That cleared my remaining pores from all this gunk. I was free at last from all that pain and embarrassment but I have a unwanted gift in return.
Anyways, I can either get tattoos or become a body builder. Both optionswill draw attention away from the scars. I ama fan of neither. Laser will get me very minimal improvement and not worth the money.I also read on this forum about the hyfrecator treatment which burns the white raised bumps off. There is a new procedure called melanocytes transfer which seems to restore pigment back to the scars. Microneedling tattooing just adds ink into the scar to make it look like surrounding skin but it is not a good idea for someone with a pale skin tone like me.
I know this does not belong here but finding the appropriate blogs on thesite to post this has become increasingly difficult.
A new study has shown that we can blame our genes for our acne woes.
The study suggests that certain shapes of hair follicles are more prone to trap bacteria and thus form pimples. Considering that most people will get acne at some point, this suggests that most of us have a genetic predisposition to it. Most of the population will never have the severe form of it despite having oily skin which explains a lot.
I guess this busts many theories about acne. Diet, hormones, not washing your skinand exercise are not the cause of acne, they however can exacerbate the problem. This is what most scientists have been saying for years anyways. The study also contradicts many theories out therethat testosterone is the cause of acne.
The conclusion out ofthis : Accutane stopsthe production of sebum and the hair follicles remain clean. The bacteria is not trapped. However if you have irregular hair follicles, pimples will form when too much sebum is produced by your body stimulated by your hormones. Maintaining clean follicles is the only way to combat acne. Benzoyl peroxide kills off the bacteria but can irritate the skin for many.
Hopefully, new treatments will come out from this study that focus only on maintaining clean and healthy hair follicles. I guess gene therapy can fix the irregular follicles someday.As we all know, Accutane comes with severe side effects so new acne treatments are long overdue.
1 hour ago, MyBeautifulScars said:I know this does not belong here but finding the appropriate blogs on thesite to post this has become increasingly difficult.
A new study has shown that we can blame our genes for our acne woes.
The study suggests that certain shapes of hair follicles are more prone to trap bacteria and thus form pimples. Considering that most people will get acne at some point, this suggests that most of us have a genetic predisposition to it. Most of the population will never have the severe form of it despite having oily skin which explains a lot.
I guess this busts many theories about acne. Diet, hormones, not washing your skinand exercise are not the cause of acne, they however can exacerbate the problem. This is what most scientists have been saying for years anyways. The study also contradicts many theories out therethat testosterone is the cause of acne.
The conclusion out ofthis : Accutane stopsthe production of sebum and the hair follicles remain clean. The bacteria is not trapped. However if you have irregular hair follicles, pimples will form when too much sebum is produced by your body stimulated by your hormones. Maintaining clean follicles is the only way to combat acne. Benzoyl peroxide kills off the bacteria but can irritate the skin for many.
Hopefully, new treatments will come out from this study that focus only on maintaining clean and healthy hair follicles. I guess gene therapy can fix the irregular follicles someday.As we all know, Accutane comes with severe side effects so new acne treatments are long overdue.
FDA has cleared Sebacia recently which kind of does this. There are also a bunch of startups that are working on treating acne using good bacteria
6 hours ago, Anish004 said:PolarityTe got OsteoTe approved by FDA
did they got success in skinTe or money came into play ?
The FDA has been approving many things lately relatively fast. I just think they are going into experimentatal medicine hoping to find cures and solutions to different diseases and other cosmetic issues.
I'm back here after 6 months and it appears there are no new treatments in the pipeline! Oh well......Do we really have to wait 10/20 years for a scars cure? It seems crazy that a "small" blemishlike a scar can't be cured in 2019 when research has done astonishing things in many other fields....it's without a doubt a problem of lack of research in this particular sector. Too many people think it's just a small cosmetic problem which may be true for people with just a couple of scars, but for some of us who suffered from heavy, pervasivecystic acne in their childhood this isn't just a cosmetic problem. It's a problem that is affecting our life and mental well being badly.
Not saying that cancer research, neurodegenerative research ecc shouldn't be prioritized but it's disappointing nonetheless to see such small interest from scientists for this problem
1 hour ago, SimpleMutton said:I'm back here after 6 months and it appears there are no new treatments in the pipeline! Oh well......Do we really have to wait 10/20 years for a scars cure? It seems crazy that a "small" blemishlike a scar can't be cured in 2019 when research has done astonishing things in many other fields....it's without a doubt a problem of lack of research in this particular sector. Too many people think it's just a small cosmetic problem which may be true for people with just a couple of scars, but for some of us who suffered from heavy, pervasivecystic acne in their childhood this isn't just a cosmetic problem. It's a problem that is affecting our life and mental well being badly.
Not saying that cancer research, neurodegenerative research ecc shouldn't be prioritized but it's disappointing nonetheless to see such small interest from scientists for this problem
Agreed. They are relatively tiny scars. Removing them should be easy in 2019.
1 hour ago, SimpleMutton said:I'm back here after 6 months and it appears there are no new treatments in the pipeline! Oh well......Do we really have to wait 10/20 years for a scars cure? It seems crazy that a "small" blemishlike a scar can't be cured in 2019 when research has done astonishing things in many other fields....it's without a doubt a problem of lack of research in this particular sector. Too many people think it's just a small cosmetic problem which may be true for people with just a couple of scars, but for some of us who suffered from heavy, pervasivecystic acne in their childhood this isn't just a cosmetic problem. It's a problem that is affecting our life and mental well being badly.
Not saying that cancer research, neurodegenerative research ecc shouldn't be prioritized but it's disappointing nonetheless to see such small interest from scientists for this problem
Yeah, but a scar is not a disease,remember that. You keep thinking that scarring is a disease. It's a way for the body to repair itself, nature has decided sobut not all organisms heal this way. Mammals have limited regenerative capacity, so blame your genes not the scientists who spend days in labs discovering the mechanisms behind life.There is no cure to find for scarring as it is not a disease. You can say that scarring affects people emotionally and this can lead to mental illness. If we didn't scar however, our wounds would never close and we would probably die by hemorrhage or infection.
I believe that research is going on behind closed doors. Many diseases can be cured but unfortunately certain individuals (religious groups, the incredibly wealthy, big companies, politicians, doctors, etc.) don't want these new therapiesto be accessible to the general populace. If you still can't cure acne in 2019 and can't regenerate limbs, how do you expect them tofind a way to eliminate scarring? I truly believe that the only way scarring can ever be addressedis if one day they figure outto regenerate limbs. This is truly the key to regeneration and scarless healing. Scar tissue blocks off regeneration.
Mammals are complex organisms with several cells working together. Smaller less primitive organisms are capable of regeneration. Mammals can regenerate, the key is to reactivate that capability which evolution switched off.
57 minutes ago, MyBeautifulScars said:Yeah, but a scar is not a disease,remember that. You keep thinking that scarring is a disease. It's a way for the body to repair itself, nature has decided sobut not all organisms heal this way. Mammals have limited regenerative capacity, so blame your genes not the scientists who spend days in labs discovering the mechanisms behind life.There is no cure to find for scarring as it is not a disease. You can say that scarring affects people emotionally and this can lead to mental illness. If we didn't scar however, our wounds would never close and we would probably die by hemorrhage or infection.
I believe that research is going on behind closed doors. Many diseases can be cured but unfortunately certain individuals (religious groups, the incredibly wealthy, big companies, politicians, doctors, etc.) don't want these new therapiesto be accessible to the general populace. If you still can't cure acne in 2019 and can't regenerate limbs, how do you expect them tofind a way to eliminate scarring? I truly believe that the only way scarring can ever be addressedis if one day they figure outto regenerate limbs. This is truly the key to regeneration and scarless healing. Scar tissue blocks off regeneration.
Mammals are complex organisms with several cells working together. Smaller less primitive organisms are capable of regeneration. Mammals can regenerate, the key is to reactivate that capability which evolution switched off.
I wanted to shout amen after I read this lol
scar cure involves molecular signaling manipulation to change how our DNA reacts to wound healing as such with fs2 and sunogel.The people finding these break throughs are geniuses.
There is some form of regeneration available to us now through re injury like with laser, dermabrasion, peels etc. Scars could remodel back to pretty normal tissue but the fibrosis left behind from wound closure also prevents further remodelling. Again fs2. I really think fs2 is going to be good enough scars and fs2 is really happening. Exciting.