Acne.org Products
On 12/4/2018 at 8:26 PM, nikki_gargin said:Latest news on BirchBioMed I saw on their marketing slide they plan phase 3 roll out of fs2 in a medical device eg topical 4Q 2019. Like polarity it will roll in to market from there.
Nikki, Where is this marketing slide? And are you saying its coming out 4Q 2019 or That they are only doing phase 3 trial in 4Q 2019?
They are starting phase 3 of trials 4Q 2019 for topical fs2 but!!with medical devices Phase 3 runs into market like polarityte done 6 months of phase 3? And now you can source it for personal use. Phase 4 is market entry but kept an eye on so they run 3 into 4 with these things. Summer 2020 we will have it.
he is the link. If you click the click here link in the article you fill out a form and can see slides etc x
http://birchbiomed.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/112818-Birch-presents-LD-Micro-FINAL.pdf
can anyone tell me how fs2 work on scar
by reducing its size or making scar bettter in appearancebut in same size(as all topicals and sheets in market do)
if u think practically reducing size would be better because it means repeating applications in time make scar vanish completely by reducing it size repeatedly
but in same size appearace improvement is waste of wait for it
6 hours ago, Anish004 said:can anyone tell me how fs2 work on scar
by reducing its size or making scar bettter in appearancebut in same size(as all topicals and sheets in market do)
if u think practically reducing size would be better because it means repeating applications in time make scar vanish completely by reducing it size repeatedly
but in same size appearace improvement is waste of wait for it
You need to read the science Anish. All you have to do is go to their website. And no doesnt reduce size as in diametre.
5 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:You need to read the science Anish. All you have to do is go to their website. And no doesnt reduce size as in diametre.
Wait it doesnt make it shrink in diameter? Yall Im so confused Im sorry! But if it prevents all scarring in fresh scars then doesnt it just grow normal new skin?
21 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:They are starting phase 3 of trials 4Q 2019 for topical fs2 but!!with medical devices Phase 3 runs into market like polarityte done 6 months of phase 3? And now you can source it for personal use. Phase 4 is market entry but kept an eye on so they run 3 into 4 with these things. Summer 2020 we will have it.
he is the link. If you click the click here link in the article you fill out a form and can see slides etc x
http://birchbiomed.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/112818-Birch-presents-LD-Micro-FINAL.pdf
If you don't mind, can you please upload some of those slides? It redirects me to register when I click on here. Unfortunately, I cannot register because I don't have a username and password, it won't allow me to create a profile to register.
We get it you demand a magic potion that without excision vanishes existing scars to the absolute zero...now go invent some and stop filling these pages
12 hours ago, Lip121212 said:Wait it doesnt make it shrink in diameter? Yall Im so confused Im sorry! But if it prevents all scarring in fresh scars then doesnt it just grow normal new skin?
Reduces the visibility and the density of scar tissue of course. Nothing shrinks diameter.
On 12/6/2018 at 11:40 PM, Lip121212 said:Wait it doesnt make it shrink in diameter? Yall Im so confused Im sorry! But if it prevents all scarring in fresh scars then doesnt it just grow normal new skin?
The only way a scar shinks smaller is through contraction which is a bad thing and the body has to do it on its own. Fs2 topicallike surgicalscar said it will get old scars to breakdown and remodel and improve them..maybe partial regeneration..we dont know yet,but in fresh woulds they claim scarless healing
32 minutes ago, nikki_gargin said:The only way a scar shinks smaller is through contraction which is a bad thing and the body has to do it on its own. Fs2 topicallike surgicalscar said it will get old scars to breakdown and remodel and improve them..maybe partial regeneration..we dont know yet,but in fresh woulds they claim scarless healing
if they claim scarless healing in fresh wound that practcally its possible to remove a scar
1 hour ago, surgical scar said:Now SkinTE is marketing "collagen" tea for skin health! Unbelievable bullshitting marketers...
Now officially giving you their kool-aid by selling you gelatin tea drink instead of "scarless healing"!
Cheers!
Well they were exposed for what they are several months ago.
33 minutes ago, surgical scar said:Make this stop...my brain is getting scars
That's apparently their doctor and workers just sitting around posing with SkinTe snake oil drinks...
And they have removed all scar related posts from their SkinTe website...It's all drinks
I guess this was the fantasy injectables some were waiting for...you may as well inject it into your scars...
thats actually a different company unrelated to PolarityTe but TBH when I read they were making drinks I wasn't surprised. The fact that they still call their results "scarless healing" is kinda ridiculous. On the bright side Costarelis made another big discovery in wound healing recently.
There can't be two SkinTe's if SkinTe is a registered trademark name that also goes with PolarityTe
If there are two different companies it shows how F'ed up Polarity's patent game is that they haven't even registered the name of atrademark product so that another skin product company can just take it...
Tik tok on the clock! This thread is over 10 years. The bad part of this is lately i have not heard anything in the national news for years about new scar treatment. Shit it had been almost 40 years since accutane hit the market. I know i had it on day 1! I read about it a few years earlier in a science digest mag. Noth
ing much new has been put out for acne treatment since then except anti-androgens and Retin A. I don't understand why acne scarring is still happening today. Back in the 70's we didn't have accutane and that is when my skin scarred. I know it doesn't work for everybody. Like i said earlier.....i spent a lot of my own money on scar treatments that nothing. Waste of money! The best thing i used was skin tighteners that give a appearance of a smoother face if you wear the mask every night.
5 hours ago, nikkigirl said:Tik tok on the clock! This thread is over 10 years. The bad part of this is lately i have not heard anything in the national news for years about new scar treatment. Shit it had been almost 40 years since accutane hit the market. I know i had it on day 1! I read about it a few years earlier in a science digest mag. Noth
ing much new has been put out for acne treatment sin9ce then except anti-androgens and Retin A. I don't understand why acne scarring is still happening today. Back in the 70's we didn't have accutane and that is when my skin scarred. I know it doesn't work for everybody. Like i said earlier.....i spent a lot of my own money on scar treatments that nothing. Waste of money! The best thing i used was skin tighteners that give a appearance of a smoother face if you wear the mask every night.
I don't necessarily agree. They are trying really hard to eliminate scarring and find better alternatives to Accutane. There have been multiple failures along the way but everyday they are one stepcloser to finding better treatments.
There are clinical trials going to test out experimental anti scarring drugs. Look up OLX101 and FS2. Also, researchers in Los Angeles are working hard to develop an acne vaccine. They have found a way actually to eliminate scarring in fresh wounds completely at UCI.
The issue with all these findings is that it takes time for all these experimental drugs to be marketed and available to prescribe.
Yeah medicine has come along way since the 70s. They can transplant hands now! Imagine 50 years ago being told you can have new hands it would be unthinkable. Plastic surgery has come really far and like posters have said they are seriously working on scaring now. Like how accutaneworks on a cell level, soon to they can change scars on a cell level.
The real problem of why we don't have a cure yet is the FDA. Birchbiomed didn't make some new amazing discovery. We have known for almost 10years the molecules that are responsible for scarring and regeneration. It's even on wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scar_free_healing#Fetal_vs_adult_healing_in_humans . The problem is the FDA makes all these rules about running trials on humans and sometimes fails the trials or refuses to let them start on weird technicalities. And we know that they aren't completely altruistic. For example I heard of a filler that was apparently 10x better than Juvederm but they wouldn't approve it because their board members had a vested interest in juvederm's success. Really makes you wonder how many current FDA board members are currently investors of Fraxel and Infini.
4 minutes ago, FromScarredtoFree said:The real problem of why we don't have a cure yet is the FDA. Birchbiomed didn't make some new amazing discovery. We have known for almost 10years the molecules that are responsible for scarring and regeneration. It's even on wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scar_free_healing#Fetal_vs_adult_healing_in_humans . The problem is the FDA makes all these rules about running trials on humans and sometimes fails the trials or refuses to let them start on weird technicalities. And we know that they aren't completely altruistic. For example I heard of a filler that was apparently 10x better than Juvederm but they wouldn't approve it because their board members had a vested interest in juvederm's success. Really makes you wonder how many current FDA board members are currently investors of Fraxel and Infini.
Good point. I think it goes with public demand as well. Now we have rich people having plastic surgery getting scars there is a middle class market for a new drug esp in Asia and Far East.No one gave a fuck about the odd burn victim or acne patient until the market saw profit margins.
but thats good news for everyone so.
19 minutes ago, nikki_gargin said:Good point. I think it goes with public demand as well. Now we have rich people having plastic surgery getting scars there is a middle class market for a new drug esp in Asia and Far East.No one gave a fuck about the odd burn victim or acne patient until the market saw profit margins.
but thats good news for everyone so.
Yeah it's definitely getting more attention now. Britain recently opened a wound healing hub and plans to cure scarring within a generation. The also stopped funding movies that portray villains with scars because it feeds into the stereotype that scars=bad. I don't think scarless healing will be in the US first. I think it will be in a country with universal healthcare first. I've also heard that China has made a lot of discoveries in scarless healing and regenerative medicine.If you search scar free healing on google scholar for example there are at least 30 well conducted studies that reduced or eliminated scarring in rats/pigs just this month. And those are just articles in English. The people making these discoveries aren't millionaires, they're mostly grad students/professors. But the FDA expects them to cough of millions of dollars just to test their discoveries in humans. This is why we end up with scamcompanies like Skinte that know how to manage the business side well and get approvedbut have dubious science. I get that the FDA has to protect people but if someone wants to take a risk with their life or scars or whatever that should be their right. But to me it seems that a lot of Doctors and the FDA hide behind "ethics" for unethical reasons.