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32 minutes ago, nikki_gargin said:The only way a scar shinks smaller is through contraction which is a bad thing and the body has to do it on its own. Fs2 topicallike surgicalscar said it will get old scars to breakdown and remodel and improve them..maybe partial regeneration..we dont know yet,but in fresh woulds they claim scarless healing
if they claim scarless healing in fresh wound that practcally its possible to remove a scar
1 hour ago, surgical scar said:Now SkinTE is marketing "collagen" tea for skin health! Unbelievable bullshitting marketers...
Now officially giving you their kool-aid by selling you gelatin tea drink instead of "scarless healing"!
Cheers!
Well they were exposed for what they are several months ago.
33 minutes ago, surgical scar said:Make this stop...my brain is getting scars
That's apparently their doctor and workers just sitting around posing with SkinTe snake oil drinks...
And they have removed all scar related posts from their SkinTe website...It's all drinks
I guess this was the fantasy injectables some were waiting for...you may as well inject it into your scars...
thats actually a different company unrelated to PolarityTe but TBH when I read they were making drinks I wasn't surprised. The fact that they still call their results "scarless healing" is kinda ridiculous. On the bright side Costarelis made another big discovery in wound healing recently.
There can't be two SkinTe's if SkinTe is a registered trademark name that also goes with PolarityTe
If there are two different companies it shows how F'ed up Polarity's patent game is that they haven't even registered the name of atrademark product so that another skin product company can just take it...
Tik tok on the clock! This thread is over 10 years. The bad part of this is lately i have not heard anything in the national news for years about new scar treatment. Shit it had been almost 40 years since accutane hit the market. I know i had it on day 1! I read about it a few years earlier in a science digest mag. Noth
ing much new has been put out for acne treatment since then except anti-androgens and Retin A. I don't understand why acne scarring is still happening today. Back in the 70's we didn't have accutane and that is when my skin scarred. I know it doesn't work for everybody. Like i said earlier.....i spent a lot of my own money on scar treatments that nothing. Waste of money! The best thing i used was skin tighteners that give a appearance of a smoother face if you wear the mask every night.
5 hours ago, nikkigirl said:Tik tok on the clock! This thread is over 10 years. The bad part of this is lately i have not heard anything in the national news for years about new scar treatment. Shit it had been almost 40 years since accutane hit the market. I know i had it on day 1! I read about it a few years earlier in a science digest mag. Noth
ing much new has been put out for acne treatment sin9ce then except anti-androgens and Retin A. I don't understand why acne scarring is still happening today. Back in the 70's we didn't have accutane and that is when my skin scarred. I know it doesn't work for everybody. Like i said earlier.....i spent a lot of my own money on scar treatments that nothing. Waste of money! The best thing i used was skin tighteners that give a appearance of a smoother face if you wear the mask every night.
I don't necessarily agree. They are trying really hard to eliminate scarring and find better alternatives to Accutane. There have been multiple failures along the way but everyday they are one stepcloser to finding better treatments.
There are clinical trials going to test out experimental anti scarring drugs. Look up OLX101 and FS2. Also, researchers in Los Angeles are working hard to develop an acne vaccine. They have found a way actually to eliminate scarring in fresh wounds completely at UCI.
The issue with all these findings is that it takes time for all these experimental drugs to be marketed and available to prescribe.
Yeah medicine has come along way since the 70s. They can transplant hands now! Imagine 50 years ago being told you can have new hands it would be unthinkable. Plastic surgery has come really far and like posters have said they are seriously working on scaring now. Like how accutaneworks on a cell level, soon to they can change scars on a cell level.
The real problem of why we don't have a cure yet is the FDA. Birchbiomed didn't make some new amazing discovery. We have known for almost 10years the molecules that are responsible for scarring and regeneration. It's even on wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scar_free_healing#Fetal_vs_adult_healing_in_humans . The problem is the FDA makes all these rules about running trials on humans and sometimes fails the trials or refuses to let them start on weird technicalities. And we know that they aren't completely altruistic. For example I heard of a filler that was apparently 10x better than Juvederm but they wouldn't approve it because their board members had a vested interest in juvederm's success. Really makes you wonder how many current FDA board members are currently investors of Fraxel and Infini.
4 minutes ago, FromScarredtoFree said:The real problem of why we don't have a cure yet is the FDA. Birchbiomed didn't make some new amazing discovery. We have known for almost 10years the molecules that are responsible for scarring and regeneration. It's even on wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scar_free_healing#Fetal_vs_adult_healing_in_humans . The problem is the FDA makes all these rules about running trials on humans and sometimes fails the trials or refuses to let them start on weird technicalities. And we know that they aren't completely altruistic. For example I heard of a filler that was apparently 10x better than Juvederm but they wouldn't approve it because their board members had a vested interest in juvederm's success. Really makes you wonder how many current FDA board members are currently investors of Fraxel and Infini.
Good point. I think it goes with public demand as well. Now we have rich people having plastic surgery getting scars there is a middle class market for a new drug esp in Asia and Far East.No one gave a fuck about the odd burn victim or acne patient until the market saw profit margins.
but thats good news for everyone so.
19 minutes ago, nikki_gargin said:Good point. I think it goes with public demand as well. Now we have rich people having plastic surgery getting scars there is a middle class market for a new drug esp in Asia and Far East.No one gave a fuck about the odd burn victim or acne patient until the market saw profit margins.
but thats good news for everyone so.
Yeah it's definitely getting more attention now. Britain recently opened a wound healing hub and plans to cure scarring within a generation. The also stopped funding movies that portray villains with scars because it feeds into the stereotype that scars=bad. I don't think scarless healing will be in the US first. I think it will be in a country with universal healthcare first. I've also heard that China has made a lot of discoveries in scarless healing and regenerative medicine.If you search scar free healing on google scholar for example there are at least 30 well conducted studies that reduced or eliminated scarring in rats/pigs just this month. And those are just articles in English. The people making these discoveries aren't millionaires, they're mostly grad students/professors. But the FDA expects them to cough of millions of dollars just to test their discoveries in humans. This is why we end up with scamcompanies like Skinte that know how to manage the business side well and get approvedbut have dubious science. I get that the FDA has to protect people but if someone wants to take a risk with their life or scars or whatever that should be their right. But to me it seems that a lot of Doctors and the FDA hide behind "ethics" for unethical reasons.
14 hours ago, FromScarredtoFree said:Yeah it's definitely getting more attention now. Britain recently opened a wound healing hub and plans to cure scarring within a generation. The also stopped funding movies that portray villains with scars because it feeds into the stereotype that scars=bad. I don't think scarless healing will be in the US first. I think it will be in a country with universal healthcare first. I've also heard that China has made a lot of discoveries in scarless healing and regenerative medicine.If you search scar free healing on google scholar for example there are at least 30 well conducted studies that reduced or eliminated scarring in rats/pigs just this month. And those are just articles in English. The people making these discoveries aren't millionaires, they're mostly grad students/professors. But the FDA expects them to cough of millions of dollars just to test their discoveries in humans. This is why we end up with scamcompanies like Skinte that know how to manage the business side well and get approvedbut have dubious science. I get that the FDA has to protect people but if someone wants to take a risk with their life or scars or whatever that should be their right. But to me it seems that a lot of Doctors and the FDA hide behind "ethics" for unethical reasons.
OLX10 is under human trials at the moment in the UK. Phase 1 currently. So looks like there about a year or so behind birchbiomed. I think your right they have the science its a matter of money and legislation to start seriously rolling it out.
Oh and on NHS in UK it would depend. Nothing deemed 'cosmetic' is on the NHS. They wont give an adult over 18 braces even with the worst teeth in the world. I had to wait 2 years for a panel to approve. I see the private sector being more successful. Korea would be on it quickly!
On 10/31/2018 at 1:20 AM, golfpanther said:Great finds everyone!
It's important to note that all of these involve manipulation of cells and/or pathways so they'd face a strenuous process for approval and testing.
Nevertheless, good news for us that so many researchers are actively trying so many different ways to figure this out.
Can you give me some sunogel ? Thank you.
19 minutes ago, momo11111 said:OLX101 and FS2 are both for hypertrohpic scars.... so I don't think it will work on atrophic scars
It will work in the scar tissue of the atrophic scar.
news update. Birchbiomed say could have fs2 topical on market earliest within a year. Also it won™t need a prescription
8 hours ago, Anish004 said:just want to know if FS2 and OLX 101 can prevent scarring in fresh wounds ?
than theoretically we can remove any scars
Fs2 claim yes, Anish 
lip 121212 if you type birchbiomed in google there is a 5 min vid with the CEO dated 5th december where he says.
On 12/12/2018 at 11:30 AM, slave of jesus said:Can you give me some sunogel ? Thank you.
Haha, I wish I could!
In terms of news on Sunogel, Dr. Sun just made a big presentation (not sure where). It's posted on his Facebook page.
i guess every person here have scarsmaybe severe or not but spreaded on diff parts of face .. and not isolated at one place so how can a scarless healing product for wounds will help us
i am positive about scarless healing thing as it will help prevent scarring but today while i was looking my face closely aside of big scars i have many many tiny small scars which dont look up in normal lighting. and its not possible to cut our face and apply it all over
yes we can do it for larger scars but for small scars all over face a scarless healing thing with lasers or anything else will be better and for larger ones excision and scarless healing product may work better