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1 hour ago, Lip121212 said:Hi Everyone,
I just wanted to post an update. I have been in contact with Guoming Sun of Sunogel via LinkedIn and said that they are the process of moving the product into clinical trials in 3Q 2019 which some of you I presume already know. He said that it is being classified as a medical device and will be testing it as a medical advice (there was some talk on here before that he wanted to do clinical trials like it would be a drug). After this I asked him a general timeline of when he could for see this being out (if successful) and he said on average when in clinical it takes about 3 years for FDA approval. We are looking at 2021-2022 if it works...
Thanks for the update. But again we are still waiting for another 3 years and then its not a guaranteed success to be scar-less, the wait is painful.
Another"scar-less healing" discovery, chinese researchers claim silk wound dressing can heal wounds scarlessly:
https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/silk-route-to-scar-free-skin/3009682.article
On the bright side, there are more and more news and money poured into scarless healing research I think its an inevitable that
sometime in the future there will be a solution.
16 hours ago, AI3forever said:Three years is long, but not that long. I have a lot of faith actually in this...a lot of new studies show that hydrogels seem to be the answers. The seracin silk hydrogel in China, sunogel....and with trump accelerating medical and drug approvals could be cleared before you know it
On 11/20/2018 at 3:33 AM, Lip121212 said:Hi Everyone,
I just wanted to post an update. I have been in contact with Guoming Sun of Sunogel via LinkedIn and said that they are the process of moving the product into clinical trials in 3Q 2019 which some of you I presume already know. He said that it is being classified as a medical device and will be testing it as a medical advice (there was some talk on here before that he wanted to do clinical trials like it would be a drug). After this I asked him a general timeline of when he could for see this being out (if successful) and he said on average when in clinical it takes about 3 years for FDA approval. We are looking at 2021-2022 if it works...
This is brilliant news. Fs2 topical applicationif successful should be released before sunogel so its giving us options atleast!
On 11/23/2018 at 2:29 PM, nikki_gargin said:This is brilliant news. Fs2 topical applicationif successful should be released before sunogel so its giving us options atleast!
I can't wait to see what FS2 can do for scars. I've got multiple hypertrophic scars from a past car accident that I would like to fade.
3 hours ago, Anish004 said:even after success
FS2 will take more time because its a drug
They are planning to release it next year. They are in phase 2 clinical trials right now. Phase 3,the drug is prescribed to more people. If it passes phase 2, your physician might prescribe you the drug at phase 3 and monitor you.
10 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:They are planning to release it next year. They are in phase 2 clinical trials right now. Phase 3,the drug is prescribed to more people. If it passes phase 2, your physician might prescribe you the drug at phase 3 and monitor you.
phase 3 is a trial ..can a person use it at that time
trial means trial done to check its efficiancy side effects etc.
They are planning on releasing the topical fs2 cream soon. Its the oral that they need to wait 2 years to complete phase 2 trial. There plan is to make revenue from the cream to fund there other products. The cream showed no side effects in healthy volunteers. They are now testing efficacy of the cream. Phase 3 can be a wider patient group so what Mybeautifulscars said is right.
5 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:They are planning on releasing the topical fs2 cream soon. Its the oral that they need to wait 2 years to complete phase 2 trial. There plan is to make revenue from the cream to fund there other products. The cream showed no side effects in healthy volunteers. They are now testing efficacy of the cream. Phase 3 can be a wider patient group so what Mybeautifulscars said is right.
Wait, so when will they be releasing the cream? And does anybody know where to find the readings of how effective FS2 was on animals? Is birch bio claiming scarless healing or minimization?
There are 2 trials yeh?
The topical cream being run in Florida and the therapeutic treatment on post surgical wounds/scars in Canada which is the phase 2 and the one we have more interest in.
there Was a video interview with them and they said the cream would come out if successful next year. I dont know if its 100% regeneration, but it breaks down scar tissue which could mean the body begins to regenerate or more normal skin looking scars form. I guess it could also be a mixture of the two tissues which is a million times better than what we have now! We dont 100% know but the medical field is excited atleast. More excited than polarity!
WhatFS2 does is break down existing raised scars. It won't work on atrophic scars most likely. Most of us have this type from past acne battlesanyways.
Atrophic scars are the name given to those deep skin depressions that develop after pimples heal. These scars can be classified further into rolling, box or ice pick scars. They result from fat or collagen loss not collagen buildup.
It's seems to bereally targeted right now towardshypertrophic or keloid scarswhich happendue to collagen buildup. Apparently, it's composed of a molecule that breaks down the proteinresulting in a smoother skin complexionI would assume.It would likely be the same for contracture scars. Burn survivors can really benefit from it.
Once completed, phase 2 trials will indicate if thisimprovement is anywhere between 10 or100%.I don't believe its 100% skin regeneration. Its most likely a substitute to existing steroid injections, lasers or silicone sheets which flatten raisedscars. It may also give better results than the existing methods. We don't really know right now. I believe it promotes collagen realignment of scar tissue into the basket wave pattern that composes healthy skin.
The good thing to note however about this experimental drug is that supposedly it prevents scarring in new wounds. So surgeons can theoretically excise scarred skin, apply FS2 on it and no new scar will form thusthe old scar vanishes completely, a bit like Polarity minus the skin biopsy.
23 minutes ago, MyBeautifulScars said:WhatFS2 does is break down existing raised scars. It won't work on atrophic scars most likely. Most of us have this type from past acne battlesanyways.
Atrophic scars are the name given to those deep skin depressions that develop after pimples heal. These scars can be classified further into rolling, box or ice pick scars. They result from fat or collagen loss not collagen buildup.
It's seems to bereally targeted right now towardshypertrophic or keloid scarswhich happendue to collagen buildup. Apparently, it's composed of a molecule that breaks down the proteinresulting in a smoother skin complexionI would assume.It would likely be the same for contracture scars. Burn survivors can really benefit from it.
Once completed, phase 2 trials will indicate if thisimprovement is anywhere between 10 or100%.I don't believe its 100% skin regeneration. Its most likely a substitute to existing steroid injections, lasers or silicone sheets which flatten raisedscars. It may also give better results than the existing methods. We don't really know right now. I believe it promotes collagen realignment of scar tissue into the basket wave pattern that composes healthy skin.
The good thing to note however about this experimental drug is that supposedly it prevents scarring in new wounds. So surgeons can theoretically excise scarred skin, apply FS2 on it and no new scar will form thusthe old scar vanishes completely, a bit like Polarity minus the skin biopsy.
I have hypertrophic scars on the inside of my lips and so it for sure will do prevent scarring if I have my scars excised? Does anyone have the video saying it will be out next year?
20 hours ago, Lip121212 said:I have hypertrophic scars on the inside of my lips and so it for sure will do prevent scarring if I have my scars excised? Does anyone have the video saying it will be out next year?
I don't think you need to worry about scars inside your mouth. Nobody sees them.
8 hours ago, Lip121212 said:Sorry to post two times in a row, but I dont get how they will get FS2 on the market soon. They are only in phase 2 and they still need to do phase 3 and a review process. They have a phase 4 where they motinor the drug on the market after approval
We will see. It's too early to tell.
There is a interview on YouTube Where they say next year for topical. I think they are being funded to push through as quick as they can to be honest because they potentially have the ability to save millions of dollars. The oral drug trial on patients will really show us how it works because they are using it on new burn wounds. We have all seen polarity so we can really compare.
also if it can get basket weave then you can assume it will make scars invisible under makeup. The main problem in scars is the lack of basket weave.
12 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:There is a interview on YouTube Where they say next year for topical. I think they are being funded to push through as quick as they can to be honest because they potentially have the ability to save millions of dollars. The oral drug trial on patients will really show us how it works because they are using it on new burn wounds. We have all seen polarity so we can really compare.
also if it can get basket weave then you can assume it will make scars invisible under makeup. The main problem in scars is the lack of basket weave.
why scar differ from skin in texture ? is it due to lack of basketweave pattern ?
i am not talking about its height depth color or appendages but the textue in which a scar differs from skin and lack
also the skin has criss cross lining if u look closely and its totally lacking in scar tissue.
is it all due to basket weave pattern lack?
On 11/28/2018 at 8:21 PM, MyBeautifulScars said:WhatFS2 does is break down existing raised scars. It won't work on atrophic scars most likely. Most of us have this type from past acne battlesanyways.
Atrophic scars are the name given to those deep skin depressions that develop after pimples heal. These scars can be classified further into rolling, box or ice pick scars. They result from fat or collagen loss not collagen buildup.
It's seems to bereally targeted right now towardshypertrophic or keloid scarswhich happendue to collagen buildup. Apparently, it's composed of a molecule that breaks down the proteinresulting in a smoother skin complexionI would assume.It would likely be the same for contracture scars. Burn survivors can really benefit from it.
Once completed, phase 2 trials will indicate if thisimprovement is anywhere between 10 or100%.I don't believe its 100% skin regeneration. Its most likely a substitute to existing steroid injections, lasers or silicone sheets which flatten raisedscars. It may also give better results than the existing methods. We don't really know right now. I believe it promotes collagen realignment of scar tissue into the basket wave pattern that composes healthy skin.
The good thing to note however about this experimental drug is that supposedly it prevents scarring in new wounds. So surgeons can theoretically excise scarred skin, apply FS2 on it and no new scar will form thusthe old scar vanishes completely, a bit like Polarity minus the skin biopsy.
Hey, so I emailed with FS2's marketing department and the lady said it would elimate "all scarring" in new scars. Does this mean all sorts of types of scars or it would remove all scarring and only new healthy skin would regenerate. It just seems FS2 is really tricky with their wording on their website and in the video on youtube.
1 hour ago, Lip121212 said:Hey, so I emailed with FS2's marketing department and the lady said it would elimate "all scarring" in new scars. Does this mean all sorts of types of scars or it would remove all scarring and only new healthy skin would regenerate. It just seems FS2 is really tricky with their wording on their website and in the video on youtube.
When they will release it ask this also to them
4 hours ago, Lip121212 said:Hey, so I emailed with FS2's marketing department and the lady said it would elimate "all scarring" in new scars. Does this mean all sorts of types of scars or it would remove all scarring and only new healthy skin would regenerate. It just seems FS2 is really tricky with their wording on their website and in the video on youtube.
Like I mentioned above, they claim it eliminates scarring in fresh wounds. If you have an existing scar, it doesn't eliminate it but it reduces its appearance.
8 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:Like I mentioned above, they claim it eliminates scarring in fresh wounds. If you have an existing scar, it doesn't eliminate it but it reduces its appearance.
Awesome! Does anyone know of any published articles that display this in human like skin models or on pigs etc? Ive checked on Birch Bios website in published media, but there are about 15 articles and from the ones Ive seen only one claims 80 percent regeneration in a rabbit ear
On 12/2/2018 at 7:20 PM, Lip121212 said:Awesome! Does anyone know of any published articles that display this in human like skin models or on pigs etc? Ive checked on Birch Bios website in published media, but there are about 15 articles and from the ones Ive seen only one claims 80 percent regeneration in a rabbit ear
Unfortunately, this is the only information right now available online. There is a picture of a rabbit ear with a raised scar that is slowly becoming levelled with the rest of the skin.
On 12/1/2018 at 12:06 PM, Anish004 said:why scar differ from skin in texture ? is it due to lack of basketweave pattern ?
i am not talking about its height depth color or appendages but the textue in which a scar differs from skin and lack
also the skin has criss cross lining if u look closely and its totally lacking in scar tissue.
is it all due to basket weave pattern lack?
Yes basket weave is to do with it. Its also why scars are only 80% strong as normal skin because scar tissue goes in one direction making a load harder on the skin to stretch. Basket weave has strengh in all directions.