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1 hour ago, surgical scar said:Here entertaining 80% or 50% improvement with a product that has proven to be just a lesser crappy alternative for skin graft concerned with functionality if even that! Do all sane lurkers run upon checking this thread?
i hear what your saying as i dont believe skinte will provide what everyone really wants and thats perfect skin. But, i dont think the medical world just refer to scars in terms of functionality because acne scars mostly dont impair any function of movement or any function that would be a medical issue, but they are refered to as scars none the less.
If you really look at the leg pic of the black guy you can clearly see the skinte looks better at 9 weeks than the right leg skin graft at 2 years. Its not perfect no but it is supposed to remodel for a year Polarity said.
Share your tip please. I might not be sane but i am in the medical field myself and like to think i have a brain lol
If you've ever dealt with doctors you know they always say it gets better in a year. It's code for we know we can't defend this shit result, but we hope you'll go away for a year or forget about it by then...
well sunogel takes time until to keep hopes alive we have to talk about skinTe
i think our true option will be sunogel once it become available because they completely aimed on scarless healing of a wound
whether skinTe aims on regenration ...hence skinTe may be a very good option who hae more problems other than asthetic reason from scar....but cant say much at this time we have to wait how skinTe yields results in a normal skin injury
All stocks are up today. You don't even take into consideration average market fluctuations. Not that it means anything about them having a scar reduction solution in any case. They're focused on marketing themselves as a skin graft substitute.
2 hours ago, Anish004 said:
i think our true option will be sunogel once it become available because they completely aimed on scarless healing of a wound
whether skinTe aims on regenration ...hence skinTe may be a very good option who hae more problems other than asthetic reason from scar....but cant say much at this time we have to wait how skinTe yields results in a normal skin injury
Sunogel sounds like the kind of scar solution we need by what they describe so far. If they'll ever get it going. I assume it may at least offer some improvement, or won't hurt to try it at least. SkinTE is not. No doctor would even try SkinTE for scar reduction since it can make things weirder.
4 hours ago, surgical scar said:All stocks are up today. You don't even take into consideration average market fluctuations. Not that it means anything about them having a scar reduction solution in any case. They're focused on marketing themselves as a skin graft substitute.
Sunogel sounds like the kind of scar solution we need by what they describe so far. If they'll ever get it going. I assume it may at least offer some improvement, or won't hurt to try it at least. SkinTE is not.No doctor would even try SkinTE for scar reduction since it can make things weirder.
Not everyone in this forum is following the thread for facial and/or facial acne scarring. Some of us are following for self-harm scars, burn scars, undetermined body scarring, large stretch marks. Which makesSkinTE an option for those with horrific body scars - that isn't just an aesthetic problem. Some of us are willing to trade bad scars for ones that don't restrict movement or bleed etc,
I'm sure a doctor will be willing to do it utilizing themicrograft technique, just without the painful graft harvesting. This combined with Renovo care for the pigmentation would help some of us here immensely.
I agree that Sunogel, however, will be great for those wanting aesthetic changes for facial scarring and acne scarring. But its progress is just so slow....
9 minutes ago, agelessfrost said:Not everyone in this forum is following the thread for facial and/or facial acne scarring. Some of us are following for self-harm scars, burn scars, undetermined body scarring, large stretch marks. Which makesSkinTE an option for those with horrific body scars - that isn't just an aesthetic problem. Some of us are willing to trade bad scars for ones that don't restrict movement or bleed etc,I'm sure a doctor will be willing to do it utilizing themicrograft technique, just without the painful graft harvesting. This combined with Renovo care for the pigmentation would help some of us here immensely.
I agree that Sunogel, however, will be great for those wanting aesthetic changes for facial scarring and acne scarring. But its progress is just so slow....
If you're really willing to trade off your stretch marks with any other type of scar and you are at a point of "pouring acid" on yourself, then just tell a surgeon that you prefer your skin burned and replaced. You'll find someone to agree to cut out your skin and fill it up with SkinTE. It definitely won't look similar to your normal skin but you'll get your wish of another replacement patch. Ask for a consultation already.
Being pessimistic won't help.
Many of us have disfiguring body scars, SkinTE is the only product that can potentially treat us.
It's not scarless healing? Who cares....personally I don't suffer from BDD, I'd be the happiest guy on the planet if my disfiguring scarring on the back improves to "minimal scarring".
And even today PolarityTE is up another 6%, maybe some insiders have some pics/info we don't have yet
I get the feeling the term "scarless healing" can be liken to "flying cars". Back in the early 20th century people predicted we will have flying cars by now. Do we have them now? Yes we do. Technically, we have some shoddy prototype that can "fly" a few feet off the ground off someone's backyard. Not exactly the image we have of those sleek looking cars in sci fi movies that is ubiquitously used for transport.
Scarless healing is the same, it sounds enpowering. But there are too many caveats and unknowns. Scientists are only able to replicate it on animals in controlled lab settings. We do not know the succcess rate. Also, lab setting and on a real human is very different. There are just too many variables in place.
I really hope im proven wrong, but besides the term scarless used by PolarityTE, it just seems like a better option than a skin graft but not 100% scarless as people have pointed out in the pictures provided.
26 minutes ago, royaume said:I've read the newest article that someone posted here. The guy said that the new skin looks remarkably like normal skin...Dont know what to think about this sentence. They keep playing the silent game. Maybe we will see better pictures on Monday! Even an improvement of 80 Percent would be great. Better than nothing! But according to this doctor it looks remarkably like NORMAL skin... Its confusing because according to Lough it is normal human skin so why they say that it looks like it....?
I think they mean that the "paste" they apply turns to human skin
1 hour ago, nikki_gargin said:My guess is that if it has pores and hairs it will look remarkably like human skin compared with a skin graft.
And this would mean that it skinte can solve our problem. At least their derivative product for smaller defects on the face like acne scars. So far they did not lie so I dont think that they lied in this case. Whats their purpose? Swanson could have easily said that it is not possible. Thex will hopefully surprise us. Especially in my case I think that even co2 fraxel could solve my problem because I only have shallow scars. They are pretty mucu on the surface and not very deep. But I will wait for the results. It seems that skinte will definetely be better than any co2 fraxel resurfacing laser or maybe a combination of both?
7 hours ago, surgical scar said:If you're really willing to trade off your stretch marks with any other type of scar and you are at a point of "pouring acid" on yourself, then just tell a surgeon that you prefer your skin burned and replaced. You'll find someone to agree to cut out your skin and fill it up with SkinTE. It definitely won't look similar to your normal skin but you'll get your wish of another replacement patch. Ask for a consultation already.
Unfortunately, I don't have the money saved to spend 6 weeks locked up in an American hospital yet. I'm waiting to see if SkinTE will be available elsewhere nearer to NZ where I live.
Like I mentioned, it's not scarless but those with disfiguring scars can benefit from a combination treatment. I've spoken about the product to a doctor who does micrografting in Turkey and I'm still waiting for a reply.
Ngl I honestly don't know why you're salty about SkinTE. It's not perfect but it's a start.
14 minutes ago, royaume said:And this would mean that it skinte can solve our problem. At least their derivative product for smaller defects on the face like acne scars. So far they did not lie so I dont think that they lied in this case. Whats their purpose? Swanson could have easily said that it is not possible. Thex will hopefully surprise us. Especially in my case I think that even co2 fraxel could solve my problem because I only have shallow scars. They are pretty mucu on the surface and not very deep. But I will wait for the results. It seems that skinte will definetely be better than any co2 fraxel resurfacing laser or maybe a combination of both?10
I too am waiting for news of a less invasive SkinTE. Combination treatment will greatly improve our skin and scars, a skin that looks 80 - 90% normal will be good for so many.
3 hours ago, AI3forever said:I get the feeling the term "scarless healing" can be liken to "flying cars". Back in the early 20th century people predicted we will have flying cars by now. Do we have them now? Yes we do. Technically, we have some shoddy prototype that can "fly" a few feet off the ground off someone's backyard. Not exactly the image we have of those sleek looking cars in sci fi movies that is ubiquitously used for transport.
Scarless healing is the same, it sounds enpowering. But there are too many caveats and unknowns. Scientists are only able to replicate it on animals in controlled lab settings. We do not know the succcess rate. Also, lab setting and on a real human is very different. There are just too many variables in place.
I really hope im proven wrong, but besides the term scarless used by PolarityTE, it just seems like a better option than a skin graft but not 100% scarless as people have pointed out in the pictures provided.
I can't remember the article (will dig it up), but there was a scientist talking about how mice can often see better results because their skin is looser and stretchier. Obviously, treatments like SkinTE will have to take into account a number of variables as each human being is different.
4 hours ago, agelessfrost said:can't remember the article (will dig it up), but there was a scientist talking about how mice can often see better results because their skin is looser and stretchier. Obviously, treatments like SkinTE will have to take into account a number of variables as each human being is different.
yeah i remember reading this too. Same for human beings. I has read in scientific journals that the eldery tend to scar better because their skin is loose so less tension and less collagen so no hypertrophic scars. Different parts of the body will scar better also. The back skin is thick and tight so alot of tension so worse scaring.
11 hours ago, royaume said:I've read the newest article that someone posted here. The guy said that the new skin looks remarkably like normal skin...Dont know what to think about this sentence. They keep playing the silent game. Maybe we will see better pictures on Monday! Even an improvement of 80 Percent would be great. Better than nothing! But according to this doctor it looks remarkably like NORMAL skin... Its confusing because according to Lough it is normal human skin so why they say that it looks like it....?
Hope it's true. They say it looks like, do they say it what aspects it doesn't look like? I think that's what concerns us acne scar sufferers. For people with third degree burns, having functional skin that looks pretty close to resemblance to surrounding skin is a huge win. But for cosmetic purposes, it is very obvious if there is a difference in skin on the face.
8 hours ago, agelessfrost said:Unfortunately, I don't have the money saved to spend 6 weeks locked up in an American hospital yet. I'm waiting to see if SkinTE will be available elsewhere nearer to NZ where I live.Like I mentioned, it's not scarless but those with disfiguring scars can benefit from a combination treatment. I've spoken about the product to a doctor who does micrografting in Turkey and I'm still waiting for a reply.
Ngl I honestly don't know why you're salty about SkinTE. It's not perfect but it's a start.
I too am waiting for news of a less invasive SkinTE. Combination treatment will greatly improve our skin and scars, a skin that looks 80 - 90% normal will be good for so many.
I can't remember the article (will dig it up), but there was a scientist talking about how mice can often see better results because their skin is looser and stretchier. Obviously, treatments like SkinTE will have to take into account a number of variables as each human being is different.
I would wait if I were you. Lets see the results of SkinTE before you make plans. I'm not trying to be pessimistic.
Mammals as you know have very limited regenerative capacity following injury or trauma. Mice are a smaller organism and seem to better at regeneration. Deer also. We as humans have very limited regenerative capacity. I believe once we figure out to regrow amputated limbs, then scars will be a thing of the past.
13 hours ago, SimpleMutton said:Being pessimistic won't help.
Many of us have disfiguring body scars, SkinTE is the only product that can potentially treat us.
It's not scarless healing? Who cares....personally I don't suffer from BDD, I'd be the happiest guy on the planet if my disfiguring scarring on the back improves to "minimal scarring".And even today PolarityTE is up another 6%, maybe some insiders have some pics/info we don't have yet
I think most of us can accept some scarring on body, but if we are going to pay 10-20k or whatever PolarityTE costs for our face, we sure hope it can bring close to no scarring for the naked eye. I have very bad scars on face but if those were anywhere else on my body I seriously won't even care about them. I do have body scars too, most prominent a hypotrophic scar on my knee from an acl surgery but it doesn't affect me at all.
5 hours ago, AI3forever said:I think most of us can accept some scarring on body, but if we are going to pay 10-20k or whatever PolarityTE costs for our face, we sure hope it can bring close to no scarring for the naked eye. I have very bad scars on face but if those were anywhere else on my body I seriously won't even care about them. I do have body scars too, most prominent a hypotrophic scar on my knee from an acl surgery but it doesn't affect me at all.
body scars are normally not cosmetic i have too many hypertrophic scars from injuried and burns and all of them are on my arms...when i wear half sleeves they become visible but still i dont bother about it
so yes facial scars are cosmetic...
here is my hopes from skinte
1.if skinTe match the texture of scar with normal skin with pores in it...than i will say skinTe a breakthrough for cosmetic purposes
2.if if didnt elevate an atrophic scar to nornal level but matched its texture to normal skin with pores and hairs in it..still i say skinTe a breakthrough
On 21/06/2018 at 11:22 PM, AI3forever said:I think most of us can accept some scarring on body, but if we are going to pay 10-20k or whatever PolarityTE costs for our face, we sure hope it can bring close to no scarring for the naked eye. I have very bad scars on face but if those were anywhere else on my body I seriously won't even care about them. I do have body scars too, most prominent a hypotrophic scar on my knee from an acl surgery but it doesn't affect me at all.
Problem is some of us had severe body acne that left us with disfigurement on our back, face, chest and shoulders. I have a few scars on my hands and knees from past injuries but I don't mind them. The problem is these scars left from acne. They are widespread and cover large portions of your body because of huge cysts that would take years to heal and scar you in the process. Treating acne scars is costly and current treatments offer minimal improvement if any at all.
I don't believe SkinTE will be the answer to treating acne scars and giving us back our skin. The only thing that would work would be to inject each acne scar with something that will regenerate the skin and erase the leftovers of this unnecessary skin condition that is quite common but quite severe for many.
2 hours ago, Anish004 said:tomorrow skinTe have a event...whats your opinion on this guys
I honestly don't think much of anything new will be revealed tomorrow. It's likely going to be more of what they talked about on the 8th with the addition of bringing out "Devon" to show a patient to a crowd of people.
I sincerely hope they are going to publish a paper in a peer-reviewed medical journal by year's end. They need that to legitimize the company and the product. The pics indicate this is a move forward, at least in terms of the treatment of 3rd degree wounds over existing methods, but without published papers I think their effect on the market (and ability to continue working toward less invasive solutions for the likes of us) will be severely hampered.
those who doubted on skinTe
this pic from today presentation is very good ..after one moth pic
everybody @rudy1986 @seabs135 @golfpanther and others....everybody look this pic here..isnt this interesting
