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Haha, okay, so Rez77 and surgical scar are clearly the same person.
So, you subscribe to Popper's theory of falsification of hypothesis? Good for you, shall we give you a medal for knowing about him? Most of science is founded on this and I'm sure PolarityTE and Sunogel are open to their theories being falsifiable. Hence, why Dr. Sun told me he believes his product will need optimization in humans and why Swanson said the preclinical results in pigs required optimization. Yes, this is how science progressesyou have a theory, you test it and if it's shown to be false you let go of the original theory to find a better one that gets us closer to truth.
Popper would likely consider both PolarityTE and Sunogel to be real science because their both concerned with future hypothesized outcomes that can be disproven or verified. I don't see how bringing him up changes what we talk about on here... scarless healing.
And what logical analysis have you done on this board, Rez77? It wasn't long ago that you were applauding Tano for his convo with Swanson and saying SkinTE was something you could believe in and gave you hope. And now you're this deeply analytical person that employs falsifiability? Give me a break.
1 minute ago, golfpanther said:
Haha, okay, so Rez77 and surgical scar are clearly the same people.
Im surprised you hadnt figured that out sooner. If you read somewhere around 1-2 pages ago, theyll have back to back replies of something like this:
LMMMMMMAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFF
and
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOOLOL
Sound exactly the same and probably still just a kid with replies like that.
Just use the ignore button, it blocks their messages. It was made obvious he has a problem especially if hes going through the trouble of making a new account to fake another identity.
2 minutes ago, Tano1 said:Im surprised you hadnt figured that out sooner. If you read somewhere around 1-2 pages ago, theyll have back to back replies of something like this:LMMMMMMAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFF
and
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOOLOL
Sound exactly the same and probably still just a kid with replies like that.
Just use the ignore button, it blocks their messages. It was made obvious he has a problem especially if hes going through the trouble of making a new account to fake another identity.
I'm not surgical scar dude. I mean you can have the moderator look up my IP address or my email. Just cause Surgical scar seems to agree with few things I say doesn't mean he's me. So seriously you can fuck off with your false accusations.
13 minutes ago, golfpanther said:Haha, okay, so Rez77 and surgical scar are clearly the same person.
Correction: creativeusername1234 is also clearly me because everyone that doesn't clap for the whiny trolls is obviously the same person 
Do you feel better sweetie? 
Still no proof of conversation posted?
I love this thread...the greatest entertainment I've found 
17 minutes ago, golfpanther said:Haha, okay, so Rez77 and surgical scar are clearly the same person.
So, you subscribe to Popper's theory of falsification of hypothesis? Good for you, shall we give you a medal for knowing about him? Most of science is founded on this and I'm sure PolarityTE and Sunogel are open to their theories being falsifiable. Hence, why Dr. Sun told me he believes his product will need optimization in humans and why Swanson said the preclinical results in pigs required optimization. Yes, this is how science progressesyou have a theory, you test it and if it's shown to be false you let go of the original theory to find a better one that gets us closer to truth.
Popper would likely consider both PolarityTE and Sunogel to be real science because their both concerned with future hypothesized outcomes that can be disproven or verified. I don't see how bringing him up changes what we talk about on here... scarless healing.
And what logical analysis have you done on this board, Rez77? It wasn't long ago that you were applauding Tano for his convo with Swanson and saying SkinTE was something you could believe in and gave you hope. And now you're this deeply analytical person that employs falsifiability? Give me a break.
Well I momentarily succumbed to the hype and started emotionally hoping for a solution.
I take all that back. The only way to assess is to look at the scientific data of which there is fucking ZERO when it comes to either Sunogel OR Polarity TE. Where are the peer reviewed studies? Where is the control and the laboratory experiments with independent factors accounted for?
I mean just cause the Scaarless guy agrees with me on these points doesn't make us the same person.
I mean I'm trying to help you guys stop wasting time. But who cares you'll see in a few months none of this is going to pan out.
I agree with Scarless about mocking the statements released from Polarity you morons are getting so happy about like "I'd choose Skin TE over anything else" Like he nailed it. Against what? There is nothing. And that's what you guys are flipping out about?
Seriously, most of you on this board have the intillegence of fruit flies. But I mean who else would you expect to find on a thread about "Scarless healing" lol. I'm through with this for sure. Its just a waste of time. See you guys never.
15 minutes ago, Tano1 said:Im surprised you hadnt figured that out sooner. If you read somewhere around 1-2 pages ago, theyll have back to back replies of something like this:LMMMMMMAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFF
and
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOOLOL
Sound exactly the same and probably still just a kid with replies like that.
Just use the ignore button, it blocks their messages. It was made obvious he has a problem especially if hes going through the trouble of making a new account to fake another identity.
Good call, I've done so. I've suspected they're the same person for a while but I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Interesting article about this very site:
https://www.racked.com/2018/4/12/17114138/acne-org-community
And this one about a UCLA incubator for tech startups, including one focused on scars:
46 minutes ago, golfpanther said:Good call, I've done so. I've suspected they're the same person for a while but I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.Interesting article about this very site:
https://www.racked.com/2018/4/12/17114138/acne-org-community
And this one about a UCLA incubator for tech startups, including one focused on scars:
I think its a bad call to shut down a thread over 1 or 2 people. I think the moderators should review the conversations and determine who is going off topic or engaging in disruptive behavior.
Shutting down a thread like the one from the link only hurts their web traffic. Scarless research isnt discussed anywhere on this forum except this thread. Everything else is current treatments which most of us probably dont care for anymore since were here. So a thread thats unique like this one would really hurt the forum in general.
I never knew about that incubator. Great find Ill have to do some digging on that myself. The new organ theyre dubbing is great news as well. Even if SkinTE fails for people with acne scars, progress is being made all over.
1 hour ago, golfpanther said:Good call, I've done so. I've suspected they're the same person for a while but I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.Interesting article about this very site:
https://www.racked.com/2018/4/12/17114138/acne-org-community
And this one about a UCLA incubator for tech startups, including one focused on scars:
There's alot of research going on right now to find ways to remove scars. We live in a day and age where people want to look their best and scars are increasingly becoming undesirable. Having one or two makes for interesting conversations but having a face riddled with pockmarks from previous inflammatory acne is not ideal for anyone that has to go on with their daily lives.
Some people here swear by SkinTE while others should seek help for existing scar revision techniques. Personal insults between members don't add much to the forum, so it's best we just ignore some members.
Truth is we need to see what SkinTE and Sunogel can bring to the table. We need to be patient in our ever ending quest to great looking skin. They are full of great claims but have not much to present us right now.
You need to understand that acne and acne scarring is just much more than the inflammation and craters or white spots it leaves behind on the skin once the lesions heal. Acne sucks. Living with it as a teenager is devastating and as it improves in our adulthood, some of us continue to breakout past our thirties.
I don't believe scarless wound healing can ever be a reality. Our bodies are not made to regenerate like that. There will always be some scarring regardless. The key is to make it as minimal as we can. If we ever manage to regenerate lost limbs than I do believe, scarless healing can become a reality. We are far away from this but in 50 years from now, it could be a reality and people won't have to suffer from the painful cysts and boils of acne or folliculitis as well as its residual scarring.
There is an acne vaccine being developped right now in California but like many others before it, it may become another failed attempt. I hope it can become a success so I can put an end to my suffering of breakouts. The issue with this vaccine is that its about 2 years away. Accutane is not really a solution and adding a bunch of acids on my skin to kill bacteria is a drag. Much of these chemicals I can make a salad out of. Every morning I smell like rubbing alcohol or vinegar.
I hope as we continue to evolve as humans, our pores will disappear eventually and nature finds another way to secrete oils, give us hair and generate sweat. It's not ideal for our pores to be continuouly inflamed or attacked by little microbes that drive our bodies into a crazy inflammatory state making the infections bigger, more swollen and more painful.
Seriously investigate me all you want. I'm just this one person. Myself.
please everyone on this thread stop fighting with others..we are here gathered to find a solution for scars and not to fight
if you are so serious about scars start researching yourself dont come here and state anything false...
and yes scarfree healing of skin is more than 100% possible because it is controlled by some mechanism and proteins which science trying to alter
some year ago even TB dont have any cure now see they are treated....
many years ago people dont knoe benzoyl peroxide is a anti acne stuff now see everybody knows it
same there are already many things discovered which have shown to do scarless healing but to reach that substance to you these things have to go many processes you have to keep patient
otherwise grab a Antifibrotic drug say eg - topiramate or enalapril etc ..injure any scar and start taking the drug orally and see how it heals without scars..but any risks like related to brain heart etc us at your own risk thats why no doctor use it......
stop figting keep researching
Rez, I can see that you are providing comedy relief for this thread. All of your posts are hilarious and you give me big laughs each time. Well done.
I look forward to seeing Polarity results at the six month stage, as opposed to 7 weeks. Seriously, that will be when I reserve final judgement. Until then, this technology is worth following with interest.
Waits for Rez to reply in capital letters shouting Skin TE can't work and there is no studies.....
Im not all negative and shit like Rez, dont compare me pls. I just want a statement or opinion based on reliable sources. Givethe article you found you infos on wtih your post. I just wont take everything for granted someone says in a internet forum on the internet.
Im only here to get infos i didnt find on the internet myself, im not interessted in arguing with others about their belivies or opinions. If you have an opinion its fine but pls give sources and dont give opinions other than the subject "scarless healing", most posts are just about other members here.
Can people just talk about the science again? I dont know why anyone cares about others personal stance on the topic whether its polarity is bogus or genius etc...its actualy good to have CONSTRUCTIVE debate, not tit for tat.
I will try egg yolk masks lol
On 4/10/2018 at 12:23 AM, jac3 said:Sorry, but no.
As someone who has suffered from acne for a decade and is well into adulthood, this is simply and totally untrue. This might be your cure (and that's awesome if so), but it is definitely not everybody's 'holy grail' or 'the cure for acne'. I have tried every single diet and supplement, including the ones you mentioned. As the original poster said, there is no functional cure for acne. No disrespect, but after going through so much to try to defeat acne, it just bugs me when people act like there's some easy, one-size-fits-all, panacea solution.
Acne is caused by testosterone
Carried Underwood has a scar around her mouth from a fall she had months back. She is a multi-millionaire. She has a platform. She recently did an interview and seemed EXTREMELY depressed over her scar. I wonder if we could get word to Carrie Underwood to fund Sunogel. She seems so desperate, I imagine she would.
1 hour ago, nikkigirl said:On 10/04/2018 at 12:23 AM, jac3 said:Sorry, but no.
As someone who has suffered from acne for a decade and is well into adulthood, this is simply and totally untrue. This might be your cure (and that's awesome if so), but it is definitely not everybody's 'holy grail' or 'the cure for acne'. I have tried every single diet and supplement, including the ones you mentioned. As the original poster said, there is no functional cure for acne. No disrespect, but after going through so much to try to defeat acne, it just bugs me when people act like there's some easy, one-size-fits-all, panacea solution.Acne is caused by testosterone
Acne is not caused by testosterone. It seems that in today's society that this hormone is linked to all kinds of ridiculous claims from some groups who try to diminish it's importance. Testosterone is the key to species survival.
To be fair, acne is caused by p. acnes. A natural occurring organism present on all human skin. Around puberty, testosterone kicks in both sexes and skin overproduces oil. For some people, p.acnes is in overabundance and feeds off the oil creating skin infections and creating an inflammatory response. Most people get occasional blackheads and whiteheads due to oil clogging skin pores. These go away quickly with no consequences. This is your normal acne most teens will experience.
For some, P. acnes will infect whiteheads and blackheads. This will cause inflammation as the body sends in white cells to kill p.acnes. For most, the inflammation goes away quickly and the pimple heals fast with just hyperpigmentation which will go away after a year. For others, the body overreacts causing bigger inflammation and more tissue destruction as p.acnes multiplies and the infectious worsen.
The key to curing acne is to reduce inflammation and to stop the overgrowth of p.acnes. Benzoyl peroxide kills p.acnes and thus limits the overgrowth of the bacteria. Exfoliating helps with the overproduction of oil however this makes the body generate more oil. Anxiety makes the body secrete other enzymes and hormones which generate more sweat and oil.
The issue with acne is that for some, the body seems to be intolerant to too much p.acnes and won't tolerant bacterial byproducts of the organism causing more inflammation and sores.
Some foods seem to direct the body to release even more oil. Some of this oil may contain more elements from certain foods we eat that p.acnes loves to feast on, creating the perfect environment for the bacteria. Avoiding certain foods could help lessen the intensity of the breakouts. Some people come on here claiming a vegan diet cured them from their acne but it is different from person to person. Everyone must experiment on their own to see which types of foods cause more breakouts for them.
The scarring that results is from our own body as it destroys healthy tissue in its fight against p.acnes, what we call inflammation.
Acne can also be caused by other conditions such as food allergies, other organisms like Demodex, staph MSRA, folliculitis, fungal infections and underlying hormonal imbalances like too much Estrogen or too much Androgens being released by undiagnosed tumours.
Few will claim that testosterone causes the more severe forms of acne like acne conglobata or acne fulfimans but we are only starting to scratch the surface as to why testosterone is not the only culprit of acne.
4 hours ago, Acnesucksforgood said:The key to curing acne is to reduce inflammation and to stop the overgrowth of p.acnes. Benzoyl peroxide kills p.acnes and thus limits the overgrowth of the bacteria. Exfoliating helps with the overproduction of oil however this makes the body generate more oil. Anxiety makes the body secrete other enzymes and hormones which generate more sweat and oil.
I wont recommend Benzoyl Peroxide. While it may stop the acne it is likely to cause your skin to scar. I had used it during a period where I had cystic acne and after the acne was gone I was left with very bad scarring even on the side of the face with no cystic acne. (I had rosacea too). The side effect is that this is a poison after all and it causes your skin to dry up which makes it very likely to scar. One of the reason fetuses don't scar is that they are in a moist environment in their mother's womb.
If you ask me what is the cure for acne. In my opinion there is no one do-it-all cure. It is a combination of lifestyle,diet and genes. Best way is to take zinc supplements daily, eat more fruits and veggies. Exercise regularly and try to cut off/ or reduce a lot of the dairy/starchy/sweet and oily food.
1 hour ago, AI3forever said:I wont recommend Benzoyl Peroxide. While it may stop the acne it is likely to cause your skin to scar. I had used it during a period where I had cystic acne and after the acne was gone I was left with very bad scarring even on the side of the face with no cystic acne. (I had rosacea too). The side effect is that this is a poison after all and it causes your skin to dry up which makes it very likely to scar. One of the reason fetuses don't scar is that they are in a moist environment in their mother's womb.If you ask me what is the cure for acne. In my opinion there is no one do-it-all cure. It is a combination of lifestyle,diet and genes. Best way is to take zinc supplements daily, eat more fruits and veggies. Exercise regularly and try to cut off/ or reduce a lot of the dairy/starchy/sweet and oily food.
You are right about benzoyl. It irritates the skin which may lead to worse scarring. Using a lower concetration does help but nothing else really kills p.acnes. Also benzoyl stains clothes and hair. Eating healthier means less toxins in the secreted oils and less meals for p.acnes, so less acne lesions.
Scientists do agree these days that a moist wound heals better than a dry wound. Some say that its best for the wound to heal before a scab is formed. Putting vitamin E and other products like rubbing alcohol will dry up the wound faster and make it scab faster. A scab creates a dry environment and takes more time for the wound to heal. Unfortunately, without scabs the wound will continue to bleed and thus we will die from hemorrhage. You have to keep the open wound in water most of the time until it heals to minimize scarring. We all know this is hard to do.
As an aside, what do you guys think of bioprinting skin? This seems to be a big thing now in biotechnology, though nothing really concrete yet:
http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/index/Business/2018-03-25/This-startup-bioprints-3D-skin/369243
https://3dprint.com/162193/wfirm-3d-printed-skin-burn-care/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/inside-cellink-hq/
just want a help from you guys sorry to post it here
i am suffering from comedonal acne and i am currently using a sallcylic acid facewash and cutted down sweets from i diet which has shown some 10% improvement in my clogged pores
so now
i want to introduce this gel to my regime which contain salicylic acid and niacinamide which is useful for clogged pores..is this right approach ????
this gel
https://www.amazon.in/Sebogel-Salicylic-Acid-Nicotinamide-30gm/dp/B00U7CRJ00
3 hours ago, Anish004 said:just want a help from you guys sorry to post it here
i am suffering from comedonal acne and i am currently using a sallcylic acid facewash and cutted down sweets from i diet which has shown some 10% improvement in my clogged pores
so now
i want to introduce this gel to my regime which contain salicylic acid and niacinamide which is useful for clogged pores..is this right approach ????this gel
https://www.amazon.in/Sebogel-Salicylic-Acid-Nicotinamide-30gm/dp/B00U7CRJ00
You need a salicylic acid toner or lotion that you dont wash off and it takes time to see improvement and you will break out when you first use it but it works and helps turn over skin cells faster.
8 hours ago, Anish004 said:just want a help from you guys sorry to post it here
i am suffering from comedonal acne and i am currently using a sallcylic acid facewash and cutted down sweets from i diet which has shown some 10% improvement in my clogged pores
so now
i want to introduce this gel to my regime which contain salicylic acid and niacinamide which is useful for clogged pores..is this right approach ????this gel
https://www.amazon.in/Sebogel-Salicylic-Acid-Nicotinamide-30gm/dp/B00U7CRJ00
You need to do your own research or post in an appropriate thread. I wish people stopped taking this thread off topic. Whenever somebody does, they are wasting others' time.
5 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:8 hours ago, Anish004 said:just want a help from you guys sorry to post it here
i am suffering from comedonal acne and i am currently using a sallcylic acid facewash and cutted down sweets from i diet which has shown some 10% improvement in my clogged pores
so now
i want to introduce this gel to my regime which contain salicylic acid and niacinamide which is useful for clogged pores..is this right approach ????this gel
https://www.amazon.in/Sebogel-Salicylic-Acid-Nicotinamide-30gm/dp/B00U7CRJ00You need a salicylic acid toner or lotion that you dont wash off and it takes time to see improvement and you will break out when you first use it but it works and helps turn over skin cells faster.
so i should not buy this gel ?