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9 hours ago, surgical scar said:I told you that the sources were provide by SkinTE, and I told you how you can inquire about them if you bother yourselves. I obviously don't want to name drop here and post their casual private communications with me to create liability for them or hurt the possibility of future consultations with them.
Ever heard of censoring your e-mail? Who is going to care what you say if you have 0 credibility. You never got e-mailed and your excuse is also great because you admit that you can't let go of the possibility that they will treat cosmetic defects. Why do you care about future consultations if you are insisting that this product won't work and that cosmetic revisions are bull shit? Because you're just in denial and want everyone to cry about it with you so you don't feel alone maybe? GolfPanther's list of treated conditions comes directly from SkinTE's site as well, so why would you believe the sources provided to you from the same company, yet not the source that GolfPanther provided you which is also from the same exact company?
9 hours ago, surgical scar said:I'm not here to convince you to believe me if you want to keep believing what you like. Especially that most of you are unappreciative and come across combative when you don't hear what you like.
Then I'dhave to wonder why you would continue to complain about this being a failed product. So if you're not here to convince me (or anyone for that matter) to believe everything you say then what is the point of complaining? You just need to rant? Why do you make stuff up fully knowing that you probably don't have the slightest clue how anything works?
We're unappreciative? You had to ask about RenovaCare's status on market availability for cosmetic care. I'm not even kidding when I say you could've found the answer to that within 5 MINUTES. We're the ones who even gave you something to talk about. We haven't just been giving you undeniable evidence, but we've been spoon feeding it to you.
9 hours ago, surgical scar said:It's funny that it wasn't me that protested"empty unbacked opinions"
I didn't say you protested it. You stated it back regardless of who said it first and since you had yet to verify your claims, I decided to second that your opinions still aren't backed by anything. And skimming through this reply, I still can't even see a single source to anything; just immaturity. Also, do you even want to talk about RenovaCare anymore? It's amazing that you can make a conclusion about a product that was developed just over a year ago yet you have to ask about RenovaCare; something that has been in the works for over a decade. Do you even research?
7 hours ago, surgical scar said:Haven't you been reading the rest of this forum about the holy grail
Not really. I logged in every now and then to check out the forum and to reply to some people. I never bothered caring what you had to say neither until you asked me a question out of nowhere. At that point I only wondered why you cared about my opinion.
9 hours ago, surgical scar said:or you are blind to see that crazy damnboy butted in between my answer to Anish's question to say shut up and got a warning?
You're going around insulting everyone and replying with nothing but fits. What'd you think was going to happen? Did you want me to slap their wrist as well? I can't really do that if I agree that you should probably not be talking if you don't have anything useful to say.
8 hours ago, surgical scar said:It looks like you've been stalking me all this time looking for a chance to come out of the woods to hit on me
Okay you should get help.
https://www.psycom.net/paranoid-schizophrenia
Basically you think someone is out to get you or watching your every move and you always get high suspicions of people for no real reason. I can tell because most of your post is about me being out to get you. I didn't actually know the term for it so I had to look it up, but I knew a college friend who suffered from it. What you're saying makes no sense so I'll just suggest you look into the link above and assume it's that. If you created that fantasy because you thought I was out to get you, I replied because I logged on to see that the last page of this thread was mostly you making up things and throwing fits with everyone. I don't care if you argue, but don't make stuff up. That's an insult to those who researched for you.
7 hours ago, surgical scar said:I'll leave you to the rest of your narcissist deluded psychologically unstable pals.
No you won't. You'll be back to cry about products not working when there isn't an end result out yet. You'll continue to cry throughout 2018 and when nobody gives you the time of day anymore, then you'll make a new account and start the cycle all over again.
A couple of people in this thread need some urgent psychological help. I know scarring can make one feel really depressed, but no need for personal insults and bickering.
17 hours ago, surgical scar said:You know what we mean by normal scars. Stop playing with words.
You just contradicted yourself by posting those hypothetical claims and then admit it hasn't been tried for cosmetic market cases. You realize hypertrophic scar revision is a cosmetic procedure? Stop confusing and wasting everyone's time by posting that advertisement we've already read many times.
Are you saying that they won't use it on paying patients until further approval? Because that's what they are doing. How do you not know that if you are in direct contact with polarity? It's just that they have not used it on non-reconstructive cases and are reluctant to.
No, I don't get what you mean by a "normal" scar because that term is imprecise and meaningless in this case. A scar is a scar. What makes one normal? Is a cut on my knee that leaves a scar normal? Or only acne scars because that's what the majority of people on this board want the treatment to address? I would imagine a lot of people would have a different definition of a "normal" scar even on this board. Yes, a scar can very in terms of depth, area etc. but all scars are normalthat's just the way we heal. It's not playing with words, it's just asking that people on here be specific. Your post is a reaction to not getting what you wanted (i.e. pics of complete regeneration on scars treated like the ones you have) and then deciding the sky is falling and SkinTE is a failure. Then, no matter what anyone else posts, including a person who had a skin graft and said the hand looks better than their results, you find ways to twist the information to suit your narrative.
You realize there are hypertrophic and keloid scars that interfere with function and quality of life that go well beyond cosmetic ones, right? I wasn't saying it had been used strictly for cosmetic purposes, just that it had been used for scarring that wasn't all caused by burns (i.e. chronic wounds).
And to everyone else posting about how the pics are crap and the results are terrible, what exactly is your basis of comparison? It just seems like people didn't get pics of complete regeneration at 7, 4 and 6 weeks respectively and decided to bash the product based on nothing more than emotion. I get wanting one thing and being disappointed, but making conclusions at this time is a bit too far and doesn't add to the conversation in a meaningful way.
On the topic of paying customers and a full-market launch...
A person on this thread earlier posted an email with C. Scott Hultman in which he stated he was a medical monitor for the clinical trial and wouldn't recommend its use until after the trial had concluded even though he's been impressed with early results.
In addition, at least two other people on this thread have contacted doctors using SkinTE as part of the trial and been told they cannot recommend it as this time.
So for the last time (hopefully)while SkinTE was registered with the FDA last year it is notapproved. I have written this many times, and yes, I spoke to Swanson directly and this was a distinction he made. Approval comes with post-market trial results that show it's a better alternative to existing methods.
This is not hard at all to understand if people just took the time to either read previous posts, contact PolarityTE themselves or read up about the 361 regulatory arm. The gist of this is simpleit's a way to expedite products to market where they will face post-market review for approval. The FDA needs PolarityTE to show SkinTE is an improvement over the existing standard of care to give them approval. That's why these pics show severe cases.
All this bickering over these photos lol..
How can you look at these images and say no this will not help acne scars is mind boggling. Do you know what his hand would look like if just healed naturally or with a skin graft? Or what it will look like in another 2 months time?....we can guess
We just dont know....one person says its impressive and another say its shit lol.
We are making judements off the back of these horrific injuries and then trying to compute in our heads that no this cant help acne scars because this dudes hand hasn't regenrated back to normal appearing skin after 7 weeks.
When i see this used on very small defects or acne scars with other methods then i will make my final call. I cant say for certain anything after seeing these images from such injuries.
I really dont get why people think the results shown are not good??? There is no way someone is going to have defect like that and it be perfect colour with hair etc in 7 weeks. Pigment and glands etc are obviously going to take time as the body is working really hard to close a wound and PLUS arrange it in a intellent way through skinte. Even recell state results take 10 months and it doesnt claim half as much or on as extreme cases.
17 hours ago, Frasier said:A ruined thread caused by childish people and lack of control from moderators.
LLLMAAAAOOOOOOOFFFFF LOLOLOLOLOLOL 
Ahhhh yeah.......like this thread, which has been in existence since 2007 has been of so much help in the past 11 years!!!!!
Guys I just came back to read the aftermath of my comment. Only Candy took me seriously cause she's clearly smart.
Guys!!! There's NO WAITING ANYMORE. They've released pics. YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF!!!
The reesults for acne scars or anything else are not gonna be much better than that! Its gonna be bumpy, stretched out, crappy, scarred up skin!!!!!
FULL EXCISION and then the paste. What's gonna be different with your acne scars!!!????
Polarity is DEAD. Just like SUNOGEL (works from a van by a strip mall) is over.
Sorry to be the harbinger of truth and bad news. CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!? Don't get angry, but admit that something is dead when you have visual evidence. Give those results another 8 months? You think you'll have TOTAL SKIN REGENERATION OF NEW SKIN then? Nope. Not gonna happen.
Burned State Trooper Leaves Hospital 4 Days After RenovaCare Stem Cell Spray
11 hours ago, Rez77 said:LLLMAAAAOOOOOOOFFFFF LOLOLOLOLOLOLAhhhh yeah.......like this thread, which has been in existence since 2007 has been of so much help in the past 11 years!!!!!
Guys I just came back to read the aftermath of my comment. Only Candy took me seriously cause she's clearly smart.
Guys!!! There's NO WAITING ANYMORE. They've released pics. YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF!!!
The reesults for acne scars or anything else are not gonna be much better than that! Its gonna be bumpy, stretched out, crappy, scarred up skin!!!!!
FULL EXCISION and then the paste. What's gonna be different with your acne scars!!!????
Polarity is DEAD. Just like SUNOGEL (works from a van by a strip mall) is over.
Sorry to be the harbinger of truth and bad news. CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!? Don't get angry, but admit that something is dead when you have visual evidence. Give those results another 8 months? You think you'll have TOTAL SKIN REGENERATION OF NEW SKIN then? Nope. Not gonna happen.
nobody cares about your opinion bro sorry for you
15 hours ago, Control Panel said:We received only two reports regarding a number of posts (edit: as of current) before this one. Both were submitted less than 24 hours ago, and neither one came from you. I don't see how moderators can be blamed. Kindly submit a report next time before things appear to get out of hand.CP
Wrong. I have reported Rez earlier. Nothing happened.
I also reported his last post. I expect the moderators to do their job and ban him.
1 hour ago, Control Panel said:Is there not an ignore feature for nonmoderators? If so, please let me know.
There is no way to block public posters on here so Ill say no, but Id like to be the first to request a block button.
Im sure a mods response would be to start a private group chat, but there are new people or even returning members that pop in onto these forums and they have a lot of information/research/knowledge to contribute and Im sure everyone would love exchanging information amongst each other.
There are also limitations to having a private group. One of them being reduced public web traffic for the site which can hurt it especially if the site gets bumped on google based on keyword searches like scarless which may stem from a recent post from somebody. Private groups are a great feature, but some additional flexibility would be welcomed in a thread like this one where there is constant debate.
I think a button could be added onto the HTML that asks you if you want to block the person upon clicking and then its functionality could be handled with JavaScript where the content of specifiedUser can be replaced with maybe a content box reading blocked message each time specifiedUser posts or just not display anything at all. To avoid accidental blocks or even allow a user to unblock someone for whatever reason, maybe a small portion somewhere in your profile settings can display something like see blocked users with an option to unblock them just to provide flexibility. There wouldnt really be any excuse to complain to mods after that.
What do you think about the whole idea?
why should my dose of realism and actual analysis be blocked?
I'm contributing valuable analysis here so that you guys stop wasting your time on a company that
will most certainly NOT deliver the type of product you want.
Why can't you guys see that yourself? If the renovacare was so good (and its been out in Canada and UK for almost 7 years now) why don't doctors use it? Its not like they don't want your business. And its totally affordable. In fact same procedure! Take a skin bio-opsy, send it to the company, get some special spray/paste type thing and apply it on the wound. Polarity is just a bit different due to need for product differentiation. Regardless, Polarity is something different sure, but not of use for us since we want complete new skin regeneration.
Why would you block my analysis. At least I'm saving you time from waiting and waiting for results that will never come.
@Control Panel @Tano1
I am told by a regular user that this works as well. Hover over the username to the left. Click Ignore User. Be aware I think they can still see your posts, but you cannot see their posts. I wish they could not see the content as well.
43 minutes ago, beautifulambition said:@Control Panel @Tano1
I am told by a regular user that this works as well. Hover over the username to the left. Click Ignore User. Be aware I think they can still see your posts, but you cannot see their posts. I wish they could not see the content as well.
Thanks for this great info! Is there a way to also ignore all posts with regards to content as well? Example, can I ignore all the posts having to do with Polarity TE and Sunogel? Thanks!
Also just to make you guys all aware.
Here it is, published paper from NATURE. Here's the conclusion to a metadata analyiss of all companies working on bioprinting and creating new skin or scarless skin healing.
CONCLUSIONS:
Although 3D bioprinting shows promise in engineering skin, evidenced by large collective investments from the cosmetic industry, the research is still in its infancy. The resolution, vascularity, optimal cell and scaffold combinations and cost of bioprinted skin are hurdles that need to be overcome before the clinical applicability can be realised. Small scale 3D skin tissue models for cosmetics, drug and toxicity testing as well as tumour modelling are likely to be translated first before we see this technology used in reconstructive surgery patients.
There you go. Hit the snooze button and give it 10 years. Even researching this tech is as they say IN ITS INFANCY!!!!! i.e. don't hold your breath.
@beautifulambition Thank you for sharing that. I didn't even realize the option was there. I never visit other profiles so I was completely oblivious to it.
It works fine and it actually does exactly what I suggested for the block feature which is display a message that the user is ignored instead of showing it. I do kind of agree with @beautifulambition though in which it would be nice if when a user is blocked, they can also not see your own posts. This is definitely sufficient though.
Just one request that could make this more user friendly:
Perhaps putting the block button beside the report abuse button on the public postings? Or even making a single button that reveals a drop down sub menu with a list of options such as: "Report Abuse", "Block User" etc... to save anyone the trouble of having to visit a user's profile and make it more easily accessible.
Thanks.
3 hours ago, Rez77 said:why should my dose of realism and actual analysis be blocked?
I'm contributing valuable analysis here so that you guys stop wasting your time on a company that
will most certainly NOT deliver the type of product you want.Why can't you guys see that yourself? If the renovacare was so good (and its been out in Canada and UK for almost 7 years now) why don't doctors use it? Its not like they don't want your business. And its totally affordable. In fact same procedure! Take a skin bio-opsy, send it to the company, get some special spray/paste type thing and apply it on the wound. Polarity is just a bit different due to need for product differentiation. Regardless, Polarity is something different sure, but not of use for us since we want complete new skin regeneration.
Why would you block my analysis. At least I'm saving you time from waiting and waiting for results that will never come.
Your posts are much more worthwhile than anything that damnboy has to say. That™s why he™s mad. Sorry for him.
@golfpanther Normal scars, for the ease of conversation and briefness on this thread, are rather minimal scars that have exhausted the available treatments, and/or doctors deem it œnormally healed for current standards, and believe the risks of any revision outweigh the likelihood of any improvement. But I appreciate your insistence on being technically accurate.
Implying that SkinTE is being used for scars that aren™t causing big functional problems or serious disfigurements gives people false hope.
The hype of PolarityTE needs to get balanced; otherwise people get dragged into the next year only to get their hopes crushed down all the way from the exosphere.
I came here to give a realistic update that SkinTE will not be used for the kind of scars readers here are waiting for anytime soon, unless in the next decade they™ll start developing that fantasy magical injectable that some think will be injected into existing scars over and over again. But, mainly I wanted to see if there was any news that Sunogel was going to get revived and taken seriously since they didn™t reply to my emails. So, let me know if Dr. Sun gathers up marketing skills to sell his product to investors.
@ControlPanel I don™t see an ignore option, otherwise I would have blocked Tano1™s stalking long ago. Is it same as the mute option on PC? I™m going to mute them. Hopefully will work.
@Tano1 LMAOOO your obsession with me gave birth to another page of deranged ramblings that I can™t possibly give 2 dungs to read all and decode all your mental sufferings!
You speak for œwe? What desperate call for validation and feeding your narcissism! Not fooling anyone. You just come across more pathetic. You try to invoke others like that unstable thug, damnboy, to join your high school tantrum because your little ego knows you™re too weak for me by yourself.
That™s exactly why you picked that timing to make your move on me¦because you thought you found groupies in the schoolyard¦
On 4/14/2018 at 4:39 AM, Tano1 said:Did you want me to slap their wrist as well?
Your delusions that I wanted something from you is tragic¦You know damn well I ignored you and all I wanted you to do is to disappear, and I told you again to leave my behind, but you can™t¦
œtheir hands? So desperate to turn that 1 damnboy into œthey XD
Aish004 didn™t ask me to stop answering her/his questions and was fine with my on topic and on point response. Why are YOU so butthurt!? 
You did œresearch for me? hahahaaa Should I be flattered that you think you™re doing me favors I didn™t ask for and don™t need, or should I be disturbed that you try to win me over?
Dude, I™m not interested! Stop seeking my attention and soliciting me!
On 4/14/2018 at 4:39 AM, Tano1 said:You'll be back to cry about products not working when there isn't an end result out yet. You'll continue to cry throughout 2018 and when nobody gives you the time of day anymore, then you'll make a new account and start the cycle all over again.
LMFAO You need serious help. You™re hallucinating and suffering badly from my lack of attention LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Goes off to sip coffee while you keep dreaming of me coming back and giving 2 rats about your narcissistic fits¦
40 minutes ago, surgical scar said:Your posts are much more worthwhile than anything that damnboy has to say. That™s why he™s mad. Sorry for him.
@golfpanther Normal scars, for the ease of conversation and briefness on this thread, are rather minimal scars that have exhausted the available treatments, and/or doctors deem it œnormally healed for current standards, and believe the risks of any revision outweigh the likelihood of any improvement. But I appreciate your insistence on being technically accurate.
Implying that SkinTE is being used for scars that aren™t causing big functional problems or serious disfigurements gives people false hope.
The hype of PolarityTE needs to get balanced; otherwise people get dragged into the next year only to get their hopes crushed down all the way from the exosphere.
I came here to give a realistic update that SkinTE will not be used for the kind of scars readers here are waiting for anytime soon, unless in the next decade they™ll start developing that fantasy magical injectable that some think will be injected into existing scars over and over again. But, mainly I wanted to see if there was any news that Sunogel was going to get revived and taken seriously since they didn™t reply to my emails. So, let me know if Dr. Sun gathers up marketing skills to sell his product to investors.
@ControlPanel I don™t see an ignore option, otherwise I would have blocked Tano1™s stalking long ago. Is it same as the mute option on PC? I™m going to mute them. Hopefully will work.
@Tano1 LMAOOO your obsession with me gave birth to another page of deranged ramblings that I can™t possibly give 2 dungs to read all and decode all your mental sufferings!
You speak for œwe? What desperate call for validation and feeding your narcissism! Not fooling anyone. You just come across more pathetic. You try to invoke others like that unstable thug, damnboy, to join your high school tantrum because your little ego knows you™re too weak for me by yourself.
That™s exactly why you picked that timing to make your move on me¦because you thought you found groupies in the schoolyard¦
Your delusions that I wanted something from you is tragic¦You know damn well I ignored you and all I wanted you to do is to disappear, and I told you again to leave my behind, but you can™t¦
œtheir hands? So desperate to turn that 1 damnboy into œthey XD
Aish004 didn™t ask me to stop answering her/his questions and was fine with my on topic and on point response. Why are YOU so butthurt!?
You did œresearch for me? hahahaaa Should I be flattered that you think you™re doing me favors I didn™t ask for and don™t need, or should I be disturbed that you try to win me over?
Dude, I™m not interested! Stop seeking my attention and soliciting me!
LMFAO You need serious help. You™re hallucinating and suffering badly from my lack of attention LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Goes off to sip coffee while you keep dreaming of me coming back and giving 2 rats about your narcissistic fits¦
Thanks man, keep quoting me when I post so that foolish users who have "blocked" me can get a good a realistic assessment.
And you're right, it will take at least 10 years. Whether from polarity or someone else. We don't know how to turn fat into msenchymal cells yet to regenerate. Even now they don't know how to use the stem cells from the preserved fetus chord when pregnant that they think might in the future be used . That's why parents pay thousands to have the umbilical chord preserved so that one day decades from now there might be appllications. The science sin't there yet .
Guys why don't we wait till full human results are out before deciding? From what we know PolarityTe
has said that they were able to achieve full dermal thickness regenerationin pigs. Swine skin is
more complicated that humans so its very likely they can achieve it in humans.
The pics they have showed of the hand doesn't look impressive. But as many have pointed out, that looks like burns which affected the muscles. Possibly they may not have the ability to regenerate muscles yet. Also, a 7 week time frame is too short to draw any conclusion with that grainy looking pics.Their website also stated that scar revision was one of the uses of SkinTE, so definitely it can be applied to acne scars according to them. So far the conclusion from what they have claimed, we surmised
that they have indeed achieve scarless healing in swine, and would use Skinte on scars in the future.
It seems positive so far unless all their previous claims are bogus and we are taken for a ride.
3 hours ago, AI3forever said:Guys why don't we wait till full human results are out before deciding? From what we know PolarityTe
has said that they were able to achieve full dermal thickness regenerationin pigs. Swine skin is
more complicated that humans so its very likely they can achieve it in humans.The pics they have showed of the hand doesn't look impressive. But as many have pointed out, that looks like burns which affected the muscles. Possibly they may not have the ability to regenerate muscles yet. Also, a 7 week time frame is too short to draw any conclusion with that grainy looking pics.Their website also stated that scar revision was one of the uses of SkinTE, so definitely it can be applied to acne scars according to them. So far the conclusion from what they have claimed, we surmised
that they have indeed achieve scarless healing in swine, and would use Skinte on scars in the future.It seems positive so far unless all their previous claims are bogus and we are taken for a ride.
because some guys here don't want skin regeneration because they are already too old and too ugly and it doesn't matter for them too treat few scars . As I said they want to bring other people down that's their goal
Rez and Surgical scar only bring pessimism to the thread unfortunately. If they just didnt think it will work they are more then welcome to their opinion. If I was of the same opinion I wouldnt continue to come back here and try create doubt in the minds of others who have hope that SkinTe can help acne scars and wish to continue discussion. When im convinced something is done and dusted I wont waste my time with it anymore. Maybe they are just wanting to troll now or they still hold some hidden hope for Skinte who knows what they are thinking.