2 hours ago, Sniffy said:

But they already have touched scars with SkinTe and plan to do more in the near future. And nobody has heard of Doctors saying it doesnt work for scars, only you. Where are you getting your mis-information?

Im not saying it works like we hope because we just dont know yet but its impossible to write it off without any evidence to suggest its not going to be true regeneration to some degree as its said to be.

PolarityTe's entire business model is built on 'True Regenration' with more pipeline products to be rolled out in the future. If cutting a scar out entirely even just a small one and applying a paste that just heals back as scar again then Lough and Co may be begging for their old jobs back at John Hopkins, unless they can somehow optimize SkinTe.

As for Dr Sun Im not sure how he can have such an amazing revolutionary product and not be able to sell it to big hitting Investors. I understand not having the funds now but I dont understand why he cant sell it? Is Dr Sun incapable of putting a presentation together and setting up meetings with big investors like Frost? he got perfect skin from scars in swine models so how can any serious investor ignore that??. Give credit to Lough at least, hes a guy who can truly drive for change. Lough has already hit the market and PolarityTe have a 200,000 square foot center and are moving fast. Seems like Sun doesnt have the drive to become the next big thing. You're saying Lough has made it to market with a product offering true regeneration but it actually doesnt work where as Dr Sun has the real deal for true scarless healing but hes still sitting at his desk twiddling his thumbs? Has the world gone mad....

If Dr Sun cant sell it now then how will he ever. Is he a mute or something?

I agree 100%. Give Lough and Polarity credit for pushing forward. And at the moment there is nothing that proves that SkinTe doesnt work. Lets see. I still have faith in SkinTe, even though it would have been fantastic to see photos were they showed us 100% regenerated skin already.

On 3/27/2018 at 9:48 AM, Anish004 said:

i messaged him

Make sure you tell them to read the recent posts. We've all being discussing Sunogel lately so hopefully they can get some ideas from us.
________________________________________________________________

Also, here's an idea someone came up with.

If Dr Sun and the owner of this website (I think Dan) met.. Dan could have 2 options:

1. It is cheeky assuming people who have businesses have spare cash lying around, be it they usually have overheads. If he has some spare cash, he could invest in Sunogel. He could ensure he gets a product out that brings scar free healing, and to boot an acne.org branded product, where the business gets royalties from sales.., but most importantly he could make sure acne sufferers are seen to first, or at the least are given equal parity to people with 3rd degree burns, surgical scars and trauma scars. Who knows this could move Dans business into another stratosphere.

2. If Dan does not have the spare cash lying around, he could use his website to advertise a crowd sourcing fund raiser, and as part of the deal get some shares in the company. An example would be Foregen, Foregen has a monthly fundraiser and they can raise 10k to 20k a month. Maybe this type of fundraiser could partially get Dr Sun through his class 2 device trial. Maybe this could encourage Dr Sun to test this on acne sufferers in the trial??

To get serious cash with all the PR and marketing help he would need to do business with big pharma i think. I dont know whether he is struggling because its a topical medicine as Polarity's product is really a procedure done by surgeons. Sunogel looks like it could get issued by prescription thus i think the brick wall for investment. Like who would prescribe? Dermotologists i guess but i dont know really. Maybe he doesnt want to sell his product to big pharma and wants to find other ways to get funds. Insurence companies in USA might fund him as im sure a one off gel will save them millions compared with surgeries and lasers etc.  He responded to a message of mine saying they are working at market entry at the moment. Its there guys!! We know all its there now. Its just waiting. 5 years...might be deciding which one to choose!!! x

20 hours ago, slave of jesus said:

they have to ask Dr Sun how much money he needs for his tests. once answered, we will contribute to help him if we really want to help him

A lot. He's proving safety and efficacy on it which requires phase 1 and phase 2 FDA trials. Each trial is in the millions to conduct. Phase 2 is also significantly more expensive than phase 1 not to mention additional costs even based on the type of facility he's using. If it has taken him this long and has not commenced trials, then it's safe to say that he's really lacking funds and investors to do so.

22 hours ago, Sniffy said:

But they already have touched scars with SkinTe and plan to do more in the near future. Where are you getting your mis-information?

Sure, they have used it...for RECONSTRUCTIVE cases and growing some skin for patients lacking skin after trauma.
The mis-information is right out of their doctors' mouthes who say they don't speak for the company and how they claim it will be used for cosmetic cases. You are welcome to sort it out with themselves.

22 hours ago, Sniffy said:

And nobody has heard of Doctors saying it doesnt work for scars, only you.

Maybe because Im the only one whos actually tried to get the doctors to do it while you are here fantasizing about it and waiting for the amazing results to get released (March is over now and they dont know when the data will get published)

Ask the company for contacts of providers using SkinTE. Show them your biggest worst acne scars and ask them if they will revise your scars with SkinTE. Good luck.

Assuming after being persistent one of them says ok...you can try it at your own risk but you may end up unhappy or with a bigger mess-up after spending thousandswill you do it? Tano1 and golfpanther...when are you going to try it if you believe it works for scar reduction?

What else can be done so the excised area wont get bigger? Should it get closed somehow?

although i'mlosing hope in polarityTEdo you think if skinTE work for burn scars, can also work for hypertrophic scars or surgical scars? because i think skinTE can't do anything for atrophic scars in face.

i want to say something to all read here

theres already a drug whuch prevent scarring in fresh wounds ..and that drug is of another disease but a indian doctor rakesh invented its use in scars
the drug name is TOPIRAMATE
many people on this forum used it in their new wounds and their wounds healed without scar

I AM ALSO an indian

any more indian here ?

9 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:

To get serious cash with all the PR and marketing help he would need to do business with big pharma i think. I dont know whether he is struggling because its a topical medicine as Polarity's product is really a procedure done by surgeons. Sunogel looks like it could get issued by prescription thus i think the brick wall for investment. Like who would prescribe? Dermotologists i guess but i dont know really. Maybe he doesnt want to sell his product to big pharma and wants to find other ways to get funds. Insurence companies in USA might fund him as im sure a one off gel will save them millions compared with surgeries and lasers etc.  He responded to a message of mine saying they are working at market entry at the moment. Its there guys!! We know all its there now. Its just waiting. 5 years...might be deciding which one to choose!!! x

Sunogel will take a long time to release. For instance, it is very difficult to find and use a connection even when you invest in it. Although it is not fully cloned, the skin is already on the market, so you can create the entire thickness again. Let's believe in the polarity and wait for the consequences to humans.

23 minutes ago, Anish004 said:

i want to say something to all read here

theres already a drug whuch prevent scarring in fresh wounds ..and that drug is of another disease but a indian doctor rakesh invented its use in scars
the drug name is  TOPIRAMATE
many people on this forum used it in their new wounds and their wounds healed without scar

I AM ALSO an indian

any more indian here ?

HI ANY PROOF OF THIS?  PICS?  OR WHERE DO THEY DO THIS CLINIC?
THANK YOU

16 minutes ago, DinkumFridge said:

10 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:

To get serious cash with all the PR and marketing help he would need to do business with big pharma i think. I dont know whether he is struggling because its a topical medicine as Polarity's product is really a procedure done by surgeons. Sunogel looks like it could get issued by prescription thus i think the brick wall for investment. Like who would prescribe? Dermotologists i guess but i dont know really. Maybe he doesnt want to sell his product to big pharma and wants to find other ways to get funds. Insurence companies in USA might fund him as im sure a one off gel will save them millions compared with surgeries and lasers etc.  He responded to a message of mine saying they are working at market entry at the moment. Its there guys!! We know all its there now. Its just waiting. 5 years...might be deciding which one to choose!!! x

Sunogel will take a long time to release. For instance, it is very difficult to find and use a connection even when you invest in it. Although it is not fully cloned, the skin is already on the market, so you can create the entire thickness again. Let's believe in the polarity and wait for the consequences to humans.

Sungel product is a gel, I think if he really wanted to help us, he can easy list it on amazon or something like most ppl who have made products to sell, I don't want to be a damper but skinlte is not it, and sungel is another acell or something, no real evidence besides a scratch that would of healed on its on scarlessly regardless of a gel, I don't by it. There is any study where they use fat to aim for scarless wounds I more by that one. but it seems like this thread will be anyother 10 yrs before something really works. Just research and bs now

the study of TOPIRAMATE drug

https://escholarship.org/uc/item/8960f67r

see the first pic on site thats of acne scarring

4 hours ago, Anish004 said:

the study of TOPIRAMATE drug

https://escholarship.org/uc/item/8960f67r

see the first pic on site thats of acne scarring

the acne scarring pic looks good. The rest look shite to be honest. Anti epileptic drugs arent pleasent to be honest. They are used in psychiatry alot and people have awful side effects (im a nurse).

TOPIRAMATE also do scarless healing of fresh wounds..mamy people on acne.org have noticed this while taking TOPIRAMATE that their new severe wounds healed without scar..so it means a excision and TOPIRAMATE works ?

what are its side effects ..i dont think they are life threatening ?

2 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:

6 hours ago, Anish004 said:

the study of TOPIRAMATE drug

https://escholarship.org/uc/item/8960f67r

see the first pic on site thats of acne scarring

the acne scarring pic looks good. The rest look shite to be honest. Anti epileptic drugs arent pleasent to be honest. They are used in psychiatry alot and people have awful side effects (im a nurse).

Yes, I'm sure they have unpleasant (and dangerous?) side effects. How nasty do you think the side effects are taken for a month for a fresh wound? Can it be even obtained without prescription?

13 hours ago, surgical scar said:

Sure, they have used it...for RECONSTRUCTIVE cases and growing some skin for patients lacking skin after trauma.
The mis-information is right out of their doctors' mouthes who say they don't speak for the company and how they claim it will be used for cosmetic cases. You are welcome to sort it out with themselves.

Maybe because Im the only one whos actually tried to get the doctors to do it while you are here fantasizing about it and waiting for the amazing results to get released (March is over now and they dont know when the data will get published)

Ask the company for contacts of providers using SkinTE. Show them your biggest worst acne scars and ask them if they will revise your scars with SkinTE. Good luck.

Assuming after being persistent one of them says ok...you can try it at your own risk but you may end up unhappy or with a bigger mess-up after spending thousandswill you do it? Tano1 and golfpanther...when are you going to try it if you believe it works for scar reduction?

What else can be done so the excised area wont get bigger? Should it get closed somehow?

Why on earth would they remove that 10 year old boys scarred skin....the issue with him was contraction and keloid formation which is a concern for both function and appearance so if SkinTe can prevent that which is the doctors goal, is that not a desirable outcome which could benefit all scars? ..

There are a number of people on this forum who have tried calling these Doctors in a panic asking for this treatment. The fact that you called around asking them to cut your face up (crazy idea) and use SkinTe on you just reeks of desperation and worry. Its easy to make a judgement call on something when you are in a dissapointed frame of mind after being denied treatment. I'm sure you got the exact same vague response from any doctor using it as others on here did. How can any Doctor know its not appropriate for acne scarring this early into human trials if they havent tried it for acne scarring with techniques like needling and dermabrasion and subcisions, if it is offering no benefit to old scars then they should cease using it and putting patients through the pain.... If they continue treating old scars from grafts to get good results with at least less contraction then we can hope it has some sort of benefit for acne scars thats all. And the difference from large burn scars/grafts and small acne scar is HUGE!

Ive said it before...SkinTe just needs to show it can prevent Scarring to a degree or with regeneration of normal skin and it could possibly be of real benefit to acne scars. We just dont know and are still waiting. Im not awaiting miracle images to come through from these horrific burns patients and they suddenly have besutiful perfect skin. Im waiting to see signs it does prevent Scarring from forming but.

And its been 3 months only from about when they first started using on humans. To Early...you were making these phone calls to doctors during this time frame. There is no way they could say its not ever going to be used for cosmetic scars this early....

20 hours ago, surgical scar said:

Tano1 and golfpanther...when are you going to try it if you believe it works for scar reduction?

I can answer that, but in all honesty, I was waiting for you to answer the question I asked you several days ago. If we can just rewind then Id like to try one more time.

You said:

I was told the scar can get bigger while the contraction can get reduced. Meaning, not only the margins but the excised area may not regenerate 100% skin without fibrosis.

So if you dont mind I just want to ask again: where did you get that source from? Who told you that? Because Im interested in knowing. All I need is a name of a doctor or a forum member or a site etc... and I can check it out for myself. Then Ill answer your question and anything else that you want to ask me.

19 hours ago, onelane21 said:

and sungel is another acell or something

Do you happen to know what Acell is and how it works? Could use some good information here.

Thanks

Tano1
i also want to know For what Purpose Acell is developed
In a article Acell regrow finger tip.. but still dont used by anyone for scarless healing

obtained without prescription?

Yes one side effect which is rare of one anti convulsant is actually burns. Happens from the inside out almost. I dont know the science i just know it happens. Skin rash is a warning sign which we look out for. Yes prescription only. Brain meds arent worth the side effects for skin.

Roaccutane is a chemo drug which happened to work for acne. Some individuals paid a heavy price for its use. It works but the risks are not known to the individual until use. I personally hate Roaccutane but thats personal opinion.

Atleast polarity or sunogel is just skin and doesnt effect your central nervous system! Or your organs etc.

5 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:

Yes one side effect which is rare of one anti convulsant is actually burns. Happens from the inside out almost. I dont know the science i just know it happens. Skin rash is a warning sign which we look out for. Yes prescription only. Brain meds arent worth the side effects for skin.

Roaccutane is a chemo drug which happened to work for acne. Some individuals paid a heavy price for its use. It works but the risks are not known to the individual until use. I personally hate Roaccutane but thats personal opinion.

Atleast polarity or sunogel is just skin and doesnt effect your central nervous system! Or your organs etc.

Yes accutane is a dangerous drug, a month after i stop accutane i started to have erectile dysfunction and i went to a urologist he told meto do: testosterone,lh,fsh,prolactin test and when i get resulsts prolactin was high 40ng/ml, normal value for male are until 15 ng/ml. i believeaccutane caused thisproblem because before accutane i never had these problem with erection.sorry for my english

Yes i got psychosis from it and had to stop 7 days in. Ive never been psychotic in my life.

23 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:

Yes i got psychosis from it and had to stop 7 days in. Ive never been psychotic in my life.

I was in depression and social anxiety from severe acne and i was forced to use accutane because my acne was severe and i was tired trying treatments for 6 years without any improvement, i just had no choice, to use it=bad, not use it=bad .

polarityTe said that they will commercialize skinTe in half of 2018
and 1st quarter of 2018 is gone not a single pic from them.

33 minutes ago, Anish004 said:

polarityTe said that they will commercialize skinTe in half of 2018
and 1st quarter of 2018 is gone not a single pic from them.

Wait wait wait...

Is it real? PolarityTE gave up? It is failing?

Long time lurker of this forum, first time poster. Acne has been the bane of my existence for 20 + years. I started getting it when I was 10 and I still continued to breakout well into my thirties. Needless to say, my skin is left with scarring and my self-esteem was shattered for a long time. My face has pitts and canyons. My shoulders, back, buttocks and thighs are covered with small white slightly raised scars. My research suggests these are known as popular acne scars or follicular macular atrophy.

I went on several antibiotics to control my acne throughout the years but they didn't do much. I went on holistic diets but saw minimal improvement. I never tried Accutane because of all the side effects. I was diagnosed with celiac disease which they told me contributed to the acne flare ups and irritable bowel movement I was having. I also tend to get reccurent folliculitis and get nasty infections from a bug known as Demodex. Chicken pox as a kid also left me with multiple scars.

I am now on a gluten free diet but still breakout time to time and I'm in my 40s. Needless to say, I have used all kinds of topicals on my skin throughout the years that you could make a salad. I use antibacterial topicals to help with folliculitis and oral drugs to kill off Demodex mites but these give me other horrible side effects. The drugs offer a bit of an improvement but are not a cure.

At my age, I just have more important things to worry about. My skin boils held me back in so many ways but I accomplished lots when I stopped being fixated on this problem. I have taken a liking into popping the nasty bastards to relieve myself from all that physical pain they cause me. I still got all my hair, so there's that at least.

I have read about SkinTE and Sunogel. They both look promising but Sunogel seems to be lacking the necessary funds to go forward. Many new discoveries tend to stall because of lack of funds. We haven't heard of anything new about SkinTE. My greatest wish would be to rid myself of pimples and my pits. I believe getting my confidence back will help me catch up on the lost time. However, I was blessed with a lifetime of pimples.

The forum has been around for 10 years and many scar treatments have been approved for use but nothing out there to restore skin like it was before. My hopes of a scarless future are pretty slim.

There's just way to many other diseases out there to cure. Scarring is cosmetic and not a disease. A functional cure for acne would be welcomed. About more then half of the population suffers with it and many are left with nasty scarring. Many of my high school friends had it way worse than me and have no pits on their faces. I, on the other hand, have to look at pits every morning.